I love that easily repairable electronics are starting to become the norm in certain niches.

@kirkanos3968

6 ай бұрын

Yes miss the days would have a schematic diagram imprinted on the inside.

@jivewig

6 ай бұрын

Just wait for this product category to become mainstream, profit maximization will kick in eventually.

@rabidwallaby84

6 ай бұрын

Probably because of the EU mandates.

@Fataha22

6 ай бұрын

I mean basically almost every windows laptop is repairable

@jivewig

6 ай бұрын

@@Fataha22 Microsoft: Hold my beer 🍺

Seeing all these competitors to the Steam Deck really makes it clear how valid Valve's concept was. It also makes me wonder what Valve will bring to the eventual Deck 2.

@cloudGGs

6 ай бұрын

Well Nintendo switch already did the concept

@arkhikun

6 ай бұрын

​@@cloudGGsno, they really didn't

@sartonnis

6 ай бұрын

Handheld PCs had been around for years beforehand from vendors like GPD (hell, Linus has covered several of them in the past on the main LTT channel), but honestly the tech simply wasn't up to par for the most part to do any kind of real gaming other than light emulation. I will give the Steam Deck props for bringing them into the mainstream though.

@patorikusutaru7483

6 ай бұрын

wonder when sony gonna lick their own spit, and release a real handheld console, not a mirroring device lol

@AndrewPL5

6 ай бұрын

@@cloudGGs I can't stand when people bring up the Switch. In no way is it the same or even in the same class. The Switch has practically no GPU power and is locked to Nintendo and low graphics games basically, while these handheld PC's can play basically anything AND act like your full PC as it runs win11.

Talking about repairability at CES on their stand is absolutely great!

@plaistowjames6792

6 ай бұрын

Why?

Who's in charge here? The CLAAAAAAAWWWW! The Claw's our master! He decides who will stay and who will go!

@DungeonMetal

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for this 😂

@stephendeben1590

6 ай бұрын

the only thing i could think when i saw the title lol

@heero854

6 ай бұрын

I was thinking more "Liar Liar" with Jim Carey

@TheOneHi-C

6 ай бұрын

Only The Claw knows......

@flamingcouch-mp6de

6 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing

Im so happy that handhelds are making a comeback. It does remind me how far head of its time the PS Vita was 😢. I got an ROG Ally a few months ago and absolutely love it

@SweetKingTanner

6 ай бұрын

I’m literally playing Tearaway on my vita right now.

@ZinoAmare

6 ай бұрын

Vita was awesome

@EcchiRevenge

6 ай бұрын

I still have my hacked vita for playing some SRW games.

@RFDN0

6 ай бұрын

Hand helds started competing with laptops and were falling short. Now the systems are powerful enough that they can function as full computers. Steam also means that they aren't limited to the limited title selection.

@artiumromanov9798

6 ай бұрын

Even the classic PSP was a huge step up from the traditional videogaming for me and my friends (at least those who had one)

Sponsored segments with Dennis are always fun to watch!

@jupdown

6 ай бұрын

Literally came to the comments section to say this. I re-watched the ad roll at the end like 3 times. I feel sorry for floatplane-onlys as they're missing out on such amazing quality content!

@kingzach74

6 ай бұрын

@@rayquazahere8529 Meh. The Switch doesn't really have a robust library of good games. They are mostly crappy overpriced 1st party Nintendo titles and much worse versions of cross-compatible games. The Switch really needs a Pro version or a Switch 2.

@LightningXCE

6 ай бұрын

I honestly picked up some of those earcups a while ago and they're SHOCKINGLY good too, so uh, cheers, guess it worked.

@zephyreagle

6 ай бұрын

@@LightningXCE Is Wicked Cushions actually good? I've heard good things but I'm not sure

@AKTG197

6 ай бұрын

​@zephyreagle Yes, I highly recommend them. The owner of the company is super awesome and transparent, not to mention they do exactly as advertised. I picked a set up for my Nova Pro's awhile back and will never use anything else from now on.

Dude Dennis's sponsor spots are so perfect. A virtuoso ahead of his time.

@BrianG61UK

6 ай бұрын

It's great. I can't understand much of what Dennis says at all. It's now so easy to avoid being influenced by them.

Damn LTT. Opening up the insides on the CES floor. This kind of coverage is incredible !

The one thing I miss watching LTT on Floatplane is the top tier champagne quality Dennis ad reads!

@Metal_Maxine

6 ай бұрын

The bit where the ear fell out into the broccoli, though, blech!

2:43 Cliff coming in for the save. That's why he's the manager.

Must say, I like the naming of this device the most. The CLAW just sounds badass. Lol.

@billyeveryteen7328

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, nothing more badass than the little aliens from Toy Story.

@David-ln8qh

6 ай бұрын

I'm thinking Jim Carrey in Liar Liar.

That thunderbolt port is probably going to be a huge seller since rog's proprietary one is super expensive

@chriswright8074

6 ай бұрын

Not super but it's has its benefits

@Martinspire

6 ай бұрын

I doubt it matters. I think less than 1% of customers are really gonna hook up a GPU on that.

@ivangerginov5648

6 ай бұрын

It might be good for docking stations

@charlierose1708

6 ай бұрын

It's a handheld 😂 only plebs would buy an egpu for more than the cost of the handheld itself

@____5837

6 ай бұрын

Most of the others have a usb 4 port which has tb4 too and in my experience works fine with tb4 egpu docks, although for my legion go i ended up going with occulink because it's faster and it's pretty easy to boot from an m.2 in a thunderbolt adapter instead of the main ssd

I love that Clifford came in to tell Linus specifically he couldn't break the one he was holding, so here's a functional (but how functional?) sacrifical lamb instead.

I cannot wait to see the future of handhelds as more companies are coming out with their own designs. I just wanna see the competitive price comparison between each handheld, really I just wanna see and know what's gonna be the bang for our buck, like what's gonna be cheapest and best performing.

@block3773

6 ай бұрын

It's the steam deck. All the other ones are more expensive from a bang for buck perspective.

@IceYetiWins

6 ай бұрын

It's still the steam deck and it's not even close

@pixelman2626

6 ай бұрын

@@block3773 not really a bang for buck if Steam Deck can't even run the game that I want to play

One thing you might update is the reasoning for recommending the middle one. 50$ for the jump from 512 to 1tb is pretty reasonable, the small ssds still haven't really materialised in the same cheap and available manner as the large ones and unless you already have a 1 tb lying around you'll definitely pay more than 50$ for that (of course you'll also have a 512 in the upgrade mix to add to that value and in my eyes 512 is totally enough on these, especially when you add in a micro ssd and offload some of the lighter indie games)

Can't wait to see some benchmarks

I love that the Mobile Gaming Devices get some more competition rn... Keeps the battle and all features up...

"No no you're not gonna break that one" Even big companies know that Linus breaks stuff 🤣

With so many handheld competitors it’d be great to see a video with your top recommendations to make it easier for buyers to decide. Great video ❤

Wifi 7, Bluetooth 5.4, Intel Ultra, AND Hall Effect joysticks and triggers! MSI really packed all the best and newest tech into such a tiny space and for such a reasonable price!

Finally, hall effect is becoming mainstream!

Definitely interested to see the thermal/fan noise in a full review. My Intel 13th gen laptop was horrible with heat and fan noise and it was just an i5. But this is a newer arch so maybe it's better at least.

More and more of these will come out this year and next year. They'll all be scrapping for performance and price. LOVE IT!

Love that the video is so short and informative, will watch way more if they all so short

Man I really love seeing all these handhelds coming to market. I especially love Dennis' sponsored segments.

2 hours at 35 W on a 53Wh battery.... Yeah that's not how maths work

That is SICKKKK!! Love that much better ergonomic feel which is so important and that the speaker will not be covered by palm🔥

i love the guy for this episode's ad read sm 😭 he seems so much more enthusiastic than the other ones

I literally bought a set of Wicked Cushion a week ago for my Corsair Virtuoso, and it's pure bliss. Fresh and bigger cushions.

I thrilled to see competition in this space. I haven’t jumped into the handheld PC market yet, but I’m definitely interested.

Fair play for that MSI suit getting in on the fun with Linus. Well done it made me laugh.

I love that handhelds are coming back, I thought they died back with the PSP & Nintendo DS, but here we are and even Sonys trying to make one.

I clicked this as soon as I saw it because me and my friends have an inside joke where I grab stuff with my hand like a claw and we just say “THE CLAW”

Does the screen support VRR? If not that seems like a good advantage to the Ally still. I will say I am pretty intrigued, but I need to see performance numbers before I decide if I want to upgrade my Ally or not. And then there are the upcoming Ayaneo devices to consider, the Emulation enthusiast in me is SEVERELY tempted by the Flip DS with the new Ryzen 8000 mobile chips and that secondary display would make it perfect for DS and 3DS emulation. So many choices in handhelds. Thanks Valve for showing there was a main stream market for these devices.

@Shmack_

6 ай бұрын

Ayaneo comes out with a new device every other month for the last year so I doubt they’re constantly updating each one. Just keep moving onto the next which fixes the previous one

@cloudGGs

6 ай бұрын

Why are you thanking valve and not Nintendo?

@the.human.spirit

6 ай бұрын

​@@cloudGGsBecause nintendo doesn't make handheld PCs.

@fiftythirdth

6 ай бұрын

@@cloudGGs Because Valve brought back the excitement for portable PC gaming back to mainstream, although there was always excitement for people in the niche groups.

@btprice2001

6 ай бұрын

The screen might but maybe Intel drivers do not?

lol the beginning! 😂😂😂 Well done! 👏👏👏

I am surprised that linus didn't drop it

A MSI Car charger is something I never thought I'd live to see

Linus going full tilt takes a lot of energy to watch lol. Loving to coverage!

Poor Dennis has been demoted to commercials :D

Dennis with his quirky personality and fun accent makes a great host for ad segments. Way to go Dennis. Great Job 👍

I appreciate the detail you went into about the MSI Claw, covering everything from external design to internal specs. The news about the integrated Thunderbolt 4 port for external graphics is exciting, looks like an innovative move.

@Jessev741

6 ай бұрын

r u AI?

@pazzoeo

6 ай бұрын

​@@Jessev741looks like it, I don't understand people who do this

I've been eyeing the different handheld gaming PCs for a month or so planning to purchase sometime in the spring/summer, so I will definitely hold out for the release of the claw. Appreciate the solid information as usual.

10/10 dennis did the sponsor segment and that is all that i need in my life right now!

It's great to see the handheld category expanding as fast as it does, very much looking forward to getting one in the future.

For Wicked Cushions I’d really like to see them add cushions for trucker headsets like Blueparrot. I wear one for hours at a time and even brand new cushions from them get very uncomfortable after about an hour and a half. I feel like they could really make a splash in a market that doesn’t exist yet.

Tearing down the machine on the MSI booth was great. Thanks for that.

I always love the MSI booth videos

Most of the 3rd party handhelds are missing on the input (the trackpads). I use them extremely often on my steamdeck - and would never buy a device without these.

@1unar_eclipse

6 ай бұрын

Gyro also seems like something Deck-only, right? Never heard of it on anything else

@brianv3ntura

6 ай бұрын

@@1unar_eclipse gyro is in the ally and LGo, tho youd need handheld companion to make full use of gyro on the LGo while Legion Space matures in updates. on the ally, it works well.

@coltonbyu

6 ай бұрын

The legion go has a single (currently kinda crappy but maybe firmware can fix) trackpad on the right side, none on the left @@1unar_eclipse

@braydennturner

6 ай бұрын

@@1unar_eclipse The ROG Ally has Gyro control. The Ally's joystick-to-mouse implementation is also unbelievably good. I switched from the Steam Deck to the Ally and can say personally I absolutely hated the trackpads on the deck. Much prefer joystick and trigger for click control.

@PurpleBrain99

6 ай бұрын

Legion Go has Gyro and Trackpad

Low latency audio with Bluetooth 5.4 sounds interesting, hope a video will be made about that sometime soon. Bluetooth audio latency has always been unbearable for me, watching the WAN show on Bluetooth headphones makes me feel nauseated after some time..

Love to see the competition of these handhelds! I'd appreciate if this has a VRR on it, I'm betting it to beat the steam deck, but don't know how it competes with the Ally.

can't wait to see the full review of this first Core Ultra-powered handheld!

I'm surprised you didn't talk more about it using Arc GPU cores, both for compatibility reasons as well as being able to use XeSS.

@huntertipton6197

6 ай бұрын

Probably because it’s expected and not really a bonus. Like it’s a standard feature on the amd side of handhelds to have the FSR suite (including FSR 3 frame gen in a couple months)

@Brogboolius_Maximus

6 ай бұрын

@@huntertipton6197 Certainly could be, but I definitely see it as a bonus. FSR2 just isn't up to snuff relative to its competition, so I'd see XeSS as a good value add.

@SelinSilverus

6 ай бұрын

@@Brogboolius_Maximus XeSS and FSR are both open source though, so AMD GPU's are able to use XeSS as well (and vice versa should AMD improve FSR futher).

@yukami96

6 ай бұрын

​@@SelinSilverusThat's true but the Xess on non-Intel gpu is an inferior version due to hardware limitation It works best on Intel gpu

@TheTyisawesome

6 ай бұрын

XeSS is junk you'd be better off using FSR

Actually looks pretty good. Ive been thinking about an Ally but with so much BS with Asus a few months ago im just kinda not wanting to give them any money lol And the Deck OLED is still a little slower so we'll see how this one handles once it comes out.

@ryanhamstra49

6 ай бұрын

I’ve had me steam deck oled for a few weeks now and, while I don’t play anything like starfield on it, I’ve been getting 4+ hrs playing borderlands and with it at max setting I get 80 fps. Plus it doesn’t run windows!!

@KingLouieXD

6 ай бұрын

@@ryanhamstra49 I'd rather run windows

@SpartanArmy117

6 ай бұрын

I totally get that, I've had my Ally for a minute now and love it, and still like Asus for that matter, but I definitely get the sentiment. From what I hear the Legion is a really solid choice still as well. I love that this market is growing, I only hope they don't oversaturate it and actually end up killing the market as a result.

Gosh i love your CES stuff right now you are pushing does things on must love it!!!!!

Im looking forward to seeing a full side by side with this and the Ally

$50 for more 512gb :O . That's not bad and a real good deal.

Jury is out for me on this. The TDPs seem a little wild and I feel like the Arc iGPU is a bit of an unknown quantity. 53 Wh battery is a good move but its only 3 more than they managed to squeeze into the deck which is a lot better on the juice. I half expect the Arc gpu won't be up to the same kind of Snuff as the Z1 Extreme, which makes me wonder how much better it would be vs the Deck given its probably also going to be using more power. And how exactly are they squaring 2 hour run time at 35W TDP with a 53 Wh battery? The deck running at 15W needs 23W total, the Ally at 35W needs about 43W total (hence sub 1 hour run times). So I am assuming this is going to be the same ball park. How do you get 2 hours run time if you're blasting through 40Wh in an hour?

@markpearson3208

6 ай бұрын

Also, don't forget the claim that in 10W mode it can last for 8 hours? on a 53Wh battery. That math don't work out haha.

@combustionpropulsion4883

4 ай бұрын

@@markpearson3208 Probably using the AI power mode it can optimize usage or something? idk

Dennis paying off the damage by selling ads is funny

> 50 WHour battery > 2 hours runtime at max 35W TDP > 8 hours runtime at ~10W "endurance mode" The math ain't mathing

@thespectator3312

5 ай бұрын

Convert typical capacity to Ah: 4700mAh / 1000 = 4.7Ah Use the typical capacity and power consumption to calculate theoretical runtime: Runtime (hours) = Battery capacity (Ah) * Battery voltage (V) / Device power consumption (W) Runtime ≈ 4.7Ah * 11.61V / 35W ≈ 1.56 hours. So, depending on how you look at it, 1.56 hours is either pretty close to or slightly less than 2 hours.

@thespectator3312

5 ай бұрын

Took the battery capacity details from the tear down section of this video.

@billy65bob

5 ай бұрын

@@thespectator3312 even taking the claimed values, a 50WHour battery could only deliver 35W for 1h26m at best, and 10W for 5 hours. The details you gave there suggests it's closer to a 55WHour battery, but even that only extends the runtime to 1h33m (this is 1.56 hours) and 5h30m respectively. This is still considerably shorter than the respective 2h and 8h claims.

Wicked cushions are kinda worth it

ALL HAIL THE CLAW

@rhekman

6 ай бұрын

I'LL GET YOU GADGET!!!!!

Loving Denis doing the ad spots. also, this is making me want one of these Claws.

Wow~~Love how Linus doing the intro!!! MSI Claw looks so interesting!!

None of these features matter if it can't perform at the very least compared to AMD's offerings on the windows side of things. If it can I'm excited about it.

@glazedbelmont

6 ай бұрын

we already know the specs, it can't lol

@leflyingcarpet

6 ай бұрын

Yeah but I like competition tho.

@Natsukashii1111

6 ай бұрын

It has the power, the issue is it also need too much power for that as in it use too much what compared to amd based system

@the.human.spirit

6 ай бұрын

It needs to slightly beat the Z1 extreme in games, otherwise just get the Ally. (Or deck if you need the battery life) The Ally will have more polished software and discounted prices.

@h2opoloplyr

6 ай бұрын

If you watch Daves video on it, the preprod unit already is a few fps on top of the ally. Margin of error, maybe. But not being outperformed by the z1 extreme like everyone thinks.

Mhmmm looks like better hardware than the Steam deck, which makes sense, but I think it not having an OLED screen is the biggest trade off, it's hard to go back to LCD after trying OLED

@brandon_nope

6 ай бұрын

It’s easy to beat the Steam Deck in raw performance, but battery life and low TDP performance is more important

@Azhalan

6 ай бұрын

That and the fact that Windows isn't really optimized for handheld devices. Things might change with later generations but atm, I think the Steam Deck OLED is still the best deal.

Very little mention or comparison with the Legion Go. I still don't understand why. USB4 with eGPUs working great and it seems to have great driver support and community feedback.

I hope more handheld manufacturers start using naming conventions like kung-fu movie fighting styles. "My Claw will beat your Lotus." "Yes, but my Crane will outmaneuver your Claw."

I like that they're making some improvements over the Deck and others like the 1080p screen, newer (probably more powerful, who knows yet) processor, Hall Effect controls, etc. But MSI has a history of anti-consumer decisions with their products, so I am not as open to trusting MSI will do right by the user with the Claw.

since this vid came out 13 seconds ago i can tell you this is a classic

I like Cliff. Seams like a cool guy. “Not AS important” was hilarious lol

That ad was beautiful LMFAOOOO

Honestly, please have Dennis do more of your sponsor spots. The claw was cool and all but Dennis was by FAR the true entertainer in this video 😅

@adamnagy1746

6 ай бұрын

Agreed😂

Healthy competition in the handheld gaming space is always a warm welcome! Happy to see this thing being as user friendly as the ROG Ally. Shame though that they too when with the 2230 SSD instead of a 2280. But I'm sure like with the Ally, the Chinese will give us a solution to make it possible to run a 2280 without modifications to the case.

@rosestrohm7986

6 ай бұрын

the switch 2 has to live up to these now

@FnD4212

6 ай бұрын

Is there performance difference between 2230 and 2280

@thorodinson3597

6 ай бұрын

The difference is higher cost on the smaller stick per GB, and heat dissipation capacity is much lower

@arcadeportal32

6 ай бұрын

@@rosestrohm7986 There is a lot of competition now, Nintendo always has people flock to there Zelda/Mario games so they will be ok no matter what. But stuff like the Steam Deck that can go for under $350 and can play games like Balders Gate 3 or Hogwarts Legacy without the setting set to full potato mode like the Switch is going to be hard to beat. Been loving my Steam Deck, console experience without the walled garden experience you normally get with consoles. Edit: Well maybe not hard to beat, but there is a LOT of options now for a portable gaming handheld, not just the Switch.

@fleurdewin7958

6 ай бұрын

@@FnD4212 Of course there is difference. 2230 form factor SSD has no DRAM.

I’ve gotta give MSI credit, recently a lot of their products have been pretty easy to take apart. Having just put a water block on my GPU, it took me maybe 10 minutes to get it apart which was just because of screws but almost all of the screws were the same size and if they weren’t it was obvious where they went.

Nintendo: "*chuckles* I'm in danger"

The only thing missing for me is detachable controllers like in Lenovo Legion GO - I think it's gamechanger, because you can use it as a tablet

The modularity of this thing is nice to see. Too soon to tell, but the performance and battery life seem really impressive. If it had touch pads like the deck I think it could be a contender for the top spot. That said, using windows on a handheld is kinda like pulling teeth. I'm curious if MSI can come up with a solution better than the ROG Ally did. I hated that thing.

Love love love them using Arc

I love the bargaining over opening it, and that Linus will still send it to open the thing.

Using intel integrated graphics is pretty odd IMO

@thegruia998

6 ай бұрын

It's not odd at all. What else are you gonna do, put a 4090 in it? Besides, a lot of budget ballers use integrated graphics whether its intel or AMD just because it's cheap, and on this line-up of chips, which arn't even made for normal PC's, the graphics hold up about as well as a low-midrange GPU in 1080p.

@mikefize2279

6 ай бұрын

Meteor Lake graphics seem to be pretty good and roughly on par with AMD

@jmtradbr

6 ай бұрын

It's odd because AMD integrated graphics is better than Intel integrated graphics.

@MallocFree90

6 ай бұрын

​@thegruia998 it's simple, AMD integrated GPU is much more powerful

@iNfLune5

6 ай бұрын

I think he's calling it odd due to previous integrated graphics from intel were very power hungry and not very much performant for the wasted wattage

I would love to see a true side-by-side comparison of the mobile gaming systems. I find it strange, that Lenovo Legion Go is not well covered by LTT. Seems, like Lenovo did not offer enough money

I love the repairability of this thing but I'm skeptical that they chose Meteor Lake inside. I feel like they could've gotten more if they went with hawk point.

i love the part that the staff in MSI interrupted Linus when he was going to tear apart the unit, "MSI: wooow,,what are you doing?!, take this one instead!" hahahahah

With those specs, you could watch all your tech tips in 4k anywhere!

Whoever decided to use a crappy Intel chip for this instead of AMD deserves to get fired

I always skip ad, but damn Dennis was awesome on that one. I just laugh at it.

Dr. Claw would be proud that it's named after him. 😂

This did not age well

No OLED screen = No buy

For me both a sim slot and oculink port are a must to me for a hand held. I know the GPD win mini can use a sim card but its using the sim adapter for the GPD WIN 4 (name might be wrong but its the one with the side kick style sliding keyboard). If the updated 2024 model works well with sim card AND continues to have oculink (not shre why theyd drop it) i will buy one. Both as a phonr and a PC repalcement.

I loved the pacing of the Denis ad. I also love Denis. Thanks

first also make this the most liked comment

@willyhamster

6 ай бұрын

don’t care

@bikeswithpower6564

6 ай бұрын

Didn’t ask

@LordNementon

6 ай бұрын

Kudos! 🐧

@brettmaddan3255

6 ай бұрын

NO. I am clearly more first than you

Haven't found that channel yet that's just an archive of Dennis' ad spots. Need to show people these, they're amazing.

So cool and asome that msi build a gaming handheld i guess msi heard me cuz i comment in a video saying i would love to see other gaming companies brands build a gaming handheld.

The precision screwdriver set. An idea would be a built in screw holder tray with magnets

I like the fact that you can hook up any GPU you want up to a certain point.

I vote Dennis do every ad from this point forward.

“THE CLAAAAWWW!!”

My most recent MSI is the Pulse GL66 and I am looking forward for this one to get sold in Europe, especially The Netherlands, although I don't mind driving a bit into Germany.

I am glad you said something about it looking like the ally. It is so similar.... I wish they came up with something different. Like Lenovo did.