A lot of people were calling this deck "Poison Ivy" in preview season. It seems like it's going to be the Standard equivalent of Hammer Time.

@nickyoung7508

Жыл бұрын

Greasefang, Hammer Time, Oops All Spells, Neo-Form Combo. All these started as mem decks and people saw potential. I think this might have a chance.

@McArRuIzO

Жыл бұрын

That would imply the combo is good...

@nickyoung7508

Жыл бұрын

@@McArRuIzO I think the combo is good enough that if you combine it with a very strong shell that it can absolutely be a good deck. I don't think it's the same as Neo-Form because that tries to win on the spot... But it is similar to modern Hammer Time which tries to win over two turns.

@beeaggro2593

Жыл бұрын

@@nickyoung7508 Yep. I remember those decks here like look at the meme! How naive we were. that enchantment that untapped all lands. Or Tibalt's Trickery

@silverdeathgamer2907

Жыл бұрын

@@nickyoung7508 Kethis also.

Didn't expect one of these on a Sunday... a very toxic way to start my Sunday off. I love it.

@virtueofabsolution7641

Жыл бұрын

It looked a lot better here than it did on stream the other day.

I've been using the green march for a while now, it works especially nice with prototype creatures since it will get the bigger one out on the field AT INSTANT SPEED, but I am glad to see others finally noticing it.

@SacredMagic13679

Жыл бұрын

That's sweet.

@moocow17

Жыл бұрын

then why arent you a youtuber with these secrets!!!

@araelramiel8072

Жыл бұрын

I was using it back when Ruin Crab was still legal, just after Topiary Stomper got printed. They weren't turn 3 wins but it sure felt like it sometimes.

@Aigis31

Жыл бұрын

Oh that's an awesome combo! I love it

@takumumayuzumi7235

Жыл бұрын

The sacred texts!

Always appreciate decks that take forgotten cards and put them to use.

Deck Intro: We'll mulligan pretty aggressively to find Rotpriest... Gameplay: [Keeps a bunch of 7s with no Rotpriest.] Even after he tells himself to mulligan, Seth just hates taking mulligans too much 😆

I think this deck wants to be more all-in if it's a glass cannon. The Tainted Observer is more useful as a blue and green pitch card to both Marches than anything, so Winterhorn Blessing would be better as another targeting spell that gives a little interaction and gets multiple casts off of one card if the deck needs to mulligan. I also get how Stormchaser Drake is an attractive alternate wincon, but I wonder if Colossal Skyturtle is better as an uncounterable modal card that bounces, recurs Rotpriest, and pitches for both colors.

@bokkazas

Жыл бұрын

im taking notes of you coment for when phyrexia will be abalable

@christianbarrett3040

Жыл бұрын

Does channel count as a spell? Pretty sure it doesn't.

@wldnrkls

Жыл бұрын

@@christianbarrett3040 they didn't say it did count as a spell, if that's what you're getting at

@ashdog9235

Жыл бұрын

Winterhorn blessing would be much better nice replacement

@williamwalton9154

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There is a regrowth that proliferate to get back Rotty while also furthering the main plan.

That Mindsplice Apparatus deck seemed sweet. It was also pretty encouraging to see a bunch of non-black decks in Standard... we'll see if that's the case in actual standard, or if it's just Early Access jank.

@VinegarAndSaltedFries

Жыл бұрын

That was just because everyone with VIP was sick of playing Black. Just wait until they try Black hahaha

@KoshoShinogi

Жыл бұрын

Most of it is probably going to be Early Access jank, but it may give people some ideas. At the very least, it should reveal some of the potential standard powerhouses. I agree about Mindsplice Apparatus. Someone is definitely going to do something degenerate with that card. It's very nearly a Wilderness Reclamation with flash, and we know how busted that turned out to be.

@VinegarAndSaltedFries

Жыл бұрын

@@KoshoShinogi you know what’s so nuts about that Ravnica Allegiance-Ikoria time period in standard? So many absolutely busted things were only being held back by other busted things lol. Field of the Dead into Oko/Once upon a Time/Veil of Summer into Agent of Treachery/Fires of Invention into Cauldron Familiar/growth Spiral/Teferi/Wilderness Reclamation into Uro into Omnath/Lucky Clover/Escape to the wilds. Somehow Embercleave escaped but we all know it should have been. Freaking wild.

@wldnrkls

Жыл бұрын

it's not like other early access events were all black decks either. it's not standard, it's just people using the new set

@metalhev3989

Жыл бұрын

Black is still going to be the rule as long as invoke despair, sheoldred, underdog and trespasser exist. Can't really beat a deck when literally all their cards are 2 for 1s at least.

Last time we had a 3-turn kill in standard, I think it was when minion of the mighty and terror of mount Velus were together. Although that needed basically the literal nuts to pull off.

@187btokes

Жыл бұрын

My most consistent turn 3 kill in Historic runs a unlockable warrior merfolk and resolute strike+hammer. Gotta have the double strike kor that gives my equipped warriors double strike. Turn 1 merfolk, turn 2 hammer+resolute strike to attack for 11 unblocked, turn 3 kor, game

Was hoping to see your side of your game with CGB during the early access event

@freezeryder

Жыл бұрын

Guess I won’t be playing standard next season either…oh well

@Dekadin2

Жыл бұрын

@freezeryder what does your reply have to do with the OP's comment?

@MTGGoldfish

Жыл бұрын

That was during the stream! Should be able to find it in the replay video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/i5mT1LKdm8fVZMY.html

rotpriest is gonna be insane in older formats, any sort of cheap tutor or ritual is gonna be criminal

@gamer7916

Жыл бұрын

Feel like it would just be worse infect

@baboyaga7711

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@@gamer7916 That's my take too. If you want to play infect you are going to get more poison out of your spells by just pumping your infect creature than awkwardly trying to assemble Rotpriest-tron first. And since there is no real replacement for Rotpriest the deck would be even more goldfishy than infect already is.

@bokkazas

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@@baboyaga7711 i think it can be the "infect" for pionner. a simic build more "agro" than voltron, with fynn the fang bearer, ivy and the blue combat trick that gives flying and toxic 1

@pokeyclawz8727

Жыл бұрын

@@baboyaga7711 the deck doesnt need to be built around rotpriest. Rotpriest in an otherwise normal infect deck will just be nuts

@Kydrou

Жыл бұрын

Missing natural hexproof is gonna be important. Winning without that protection is gonna be too hard.

This reminds me of some of those heroic decks when original Theros released. Matches played mostly like these.

@benyseus6325

Жыл бұрын

This deck is more cancer than og heroic , source I played heroic in standard. We didn’t have access to dumb cards like storm drake and actually had to empty our hand to play spells

Around 1,5 year ago there was a turn 2 kill combo in standard involving minion of the mighty, 2 infiuriates and a terror of the peaks

Nishoba Brawler (or any 2-mana double strike creature) + Twinferno + Gaea's Might is also a turn 3 kill in standard, but you need a lot to go right.

@IFTNCW

Жыл бұрын

Was gonna post the same thing. I've played a deck using that combo a fair bit and never got a turn 3 kill, but had loads of turn 4 kills with it (usually by turn 3 casting Weatherseed Treaty on its second chapter and then turn 4 Twinferno & Gaea's Might)

I built this list a month ago when rotpreist was pseudo-spoiled...with season of growth and tamiyos safekeepings instead of the heavy blue shell gives extra scry and extra life its freakin sweet

electrostatic pummeler from kaladesh. was turn 4 then became a turn 3 with llanowar elves from dominaria. loved that deck

There was a turn 2 win in standard in Theros-Khans of Tarkir, where you would play turn 1 land, springleaf drum, ornithopter, springleaf drum, then on turn 2 play land, tap both lands and a drum with your thopter to play jeskai ascendancy, cast a briber's purse or astral cornucopia for X=0, untapping your ornithopter and prowessing it, then tap the ornithopter again to the other drum to cast a retraction helix on your ornithopter. Now it can tap to bounce your 0 mana artifact, which untaps your ornithopter and gives it +1/+1 every time it's played. I'm not sure if it ever happened in a real game or not because it does seem staggeringly unlikely to have those 8 cards by turn 2, but it was technically a possibility.

There was the t2 combo with the kobold that you could pump and smash the double striking dragon into play like, under 2 years ago

That game vs GW toxic was awesome!

@MTGGoldfish

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I can't believe we won that one.

croaking counterpart works on opponent's creatures too, might have been good on Amazonian's annex sentry.

I wanna see an against the odds with Monument to Perfection. I feel like it's a sweet card to win with.

I have been utilising march of swirling mist for a long time even after after hinata rotated. My soldiers deck brought me 14/0 score in a meta game challenge last set, mostly because of the march saving the day, just like you see at minute 9:00

AN AGAINST THE ODDS ON SUNDAY? COUNT ME IN!

I do the same with black green and it seems to be a little more stable.I have back up if rot priest is some how removed and necrogen communion is always nice if you can pop on turn two with no blockers. If some how rot priest is removed it just comes back. Fill the deck with removal proliferate or any cheap buff.

I feel like some commune effects would be beneficial, especially when you don't find the rotpriest in your first 7 cards or mulligan

not that it mattered, but during game 2 could you have won faster by casting march x=2 twice, holding priority before the first resolved?

@james123428

Жыл бұрын

If you mean game 3 he didn’t have the mana to do it.

Last time we had a turn 3 kill in standard was minion of the mighty and terror of mt velus more recently, Ox + Plow deck was 18 damage turn 3, but you still needed a 4th turn to secure the kill

@silverdeathgamer2907

Жыл бұрын

Before terror mono red aggro also had a very unlikely turn 3 kill in standard before that with 4 fervent champions and embercleave if they all connected and survived.

I was planning to build this deck. I already have a U/G Ivy shell. I run lots of Ledger Shredder personally

@NightmareFuelsYou

Жыл бұрын

This deck can have a legitimate flier beatdown win condition if you add 4x rancor and 4x ledger shredder instead of going all in on Rotpriest

There was a turn 3 kill when runaway steamkin was in standard, Turn 1 tin street dodger, opponent at 19. Turn 2 steamkin, 1 more goblin damage, opponent at 18. Turn 3, various combinations of samut's sprint, infuriate, and uncaged fury for the kill. Used to love doing this to threeferi. It was still an awesome deck besides that too. I ran dreadhorde arcanist, and mizzium tank with the usual skewer and light up the stage. Took me to ranked mythic, and never saw a single other person run it. Everyone else was doing the ghitu lavarunner and viashino pyromancer version. This version annihilated the red mirror. Mizzium tank was secretly awesome, and triggered itself. It was my first deck that really got somewhere, so a bit biased; but that standard was awesome.

Honestly for BO3 it feels like its best place is an updated version of Mono U Tempo where you make it simic and you run this as a finisher since youre already running a lot of protection and counters

Seeing a lot of attention paid to this fella. I foresee ban talks in the works

If it was like 3 mana i don’t think it would be oppressive but right now it just seems mean, interested to see what sort of combos appear to counter it

There was a turn 2 win in scars of mirrodin that did 21 damage turn 2, it was like 7 cards long but you could do it, I saw it once

I think we will see this deck in modern. Maybe when more combo parts come, but even right now, it has chances.

I feel like this deck will be that much more dangerous in Modern, with Summoner's Pact replacing Green March, and having access to the absurdity that is Ground Rift when it target Rotpriest

In my old LGS we would call this deck "a brick", coz like a brick, if it hits, it kills, if it miss, your opponent will just laugh and hit you

Seth on the intro: we need to mulligan aggressively to get Rot priest Seth in the video: keep multiple opening hands without rot priest

@fangoukulele7570

Жыл бұрын

Actually managed to tilt me slightly, the deck does nothing without it, so go down to 4 or even 3 for it... Maybe he's played too much casual edh recently

@MTGGoldfish

Жыл бұрын

The problem is that Rotpriest needs additional cards to win. Various Treasure Hunt style decks can mulligan all the way to one because all they need is the Treasure Hunt and they should win the game, but Rotpriest also needs spells to protect and target it. A hand of Rotpriest, two lands and a spell isn't likely to win the game. I think that mulliganing to six or maybe five if the six is bad is often worth it, but I don't think you can go much further than that.

Now everytime take a shot when Seth says Rotpriest

This is a very cool deck

This might be my new favorite thing!😈

@MTGGoldfish

Жыл бұрын

It's a super fun deck for sure!

This is the deck right here.

Last turn 3 kill I remember in standard was when minds desire was in standard. Well combo kill that is

Pulled one of these at pre release, sadly only got 3-4 pump/target spells in the right colors.

Me seeing this deck after first playing standard with mono green infect. Turn 1 rotpriest felt like turn 1 glistener elf to me.

i have a deck in pioneer with venerated rotpriest, zada/mirrorwing dragon, and awaken the woods and then like expedite

There’s a more optimized version with curiosity and tamiyo’s safekeeping, bring the ending, etc… cutting useless cards like bloated contaminated and that other 3 drop. The deck is more streamlined and approaches tier 1 in standard having basically no bad matches

i love croaking counterpart in this deck

"zaff, better known as zaahfriiin ahhhhleeeev" Also I used to run turn 2 delver infect in standard. T1: delver T2: flip delver, tainted strike, mutagenic growth, and assault strobe, attack gg I played the deck, its fall back plan was skitherix, and a flurry of counterspells to buy time. It was a deck where if a creature stuck around to attack your opponent lost but was very tough to pilot. Won a couple fnm's with it.

What if you play black instead of blue for diabolic intent so you can tutor rotpriest even when you don't have one? And you can replace te blue protection with ashnods intervention and tamitos safekeeping and add 8 1 or 2 drops. It does loose the turn three kill but it's probably more consistent

@stebobibo

Жыл бұрын

I think blue march is too important to cut blue, it's the best non-creature card in the deck. And Ivy is pretty good. Diabolic intent requires a sac which can be awkward.

When against the odds accidentally shows the top tier deck in standard

Glad i got my physical copies ahead of time. This card is gonna be nuts until it either gets banned or hated out of the format lol

@ctomsky

Жыл бұрын

Problem is the easy answer is cheap removal, but the counter to that is targeted protection which just helps their game plan.

@Weenhander

Жыл бұрын

@@ctomsky and it gets them another counter if they target, which means its an even bigger blowout if you have the protection, itll make a deck fun!

@canadasyrup2125

Жыл бұрын

I think they aren’t gonna ban it but they will print a lot of hate in the next set

@virtueofabsolution7641

Жыл бұрын

Ehhhh the problem in standard is exactly what seth talked about in the wrap up. This deck just doesn’t have the redundancy/resilience to make it a serious contender in top tiers of real magic, ie bo3, for the same reasons most single-card named decks struggle in standard. If I was gonna try to make this card work in bo3 I think I would shy away from traditional sideboard into a transformational SB. Get your g1 win (hopefully) then transform into a slightly more “traditional” aggro/midrange poison build in g2. Hell maybe throw in the 7 drop. That all said this deck is going to struggle against a real tier format. Preview day is NOT a good example of what a deck can do against established archetypes especially in a black dominated format and double especially with a deck that relies on a single 4-of G 1/2.

@Weenhander

Жыл бұрын

@@virtueofabsolution7641 definitely needs to be a part of a more dedicated poison build with tamiyos safekeeping and things like that bite spell that also gives a poison counter. This iteration is absolutely not going to be the most competitive option for a competitive format, but rotpriest itself is going to be a major player in the coming weeks of standard, i can feel it.

Oh fuck. I knew bringing back poison was a terrible idea.

Use Aspirant's Ascent to give Rotpriest flying and Ivy Toxic

@MTGGoldfish

Жыл бұрын

Someone sent me a list with Ascent, I try it a bit and didn't like it. I think all the spells in the deck need to be protection/finding Rotpriest or drawing cards.

I'm legitimately shocked to see march of burgeoning life in a deck. Never thought it would see play

@MTGGoldfish

Жыл бұрын

same

This morning I literally said to myself “i need to build a crazy rotpriest deck” .. this is better than what I had in mind

@johnnoreau3570

Жыл бұрын

My prerelease was abzan toxic. Pulled a venerated rot priest. And 3 elish norn. Unfortunately lost my last match due to bad draws. Almost went undefeated

@reefalefunk1244

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@@johnnoreau3570 wait… THREE?! That’s insane

@johnnoreau3570

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@@reefalefunk1244 yes. Three. My store couldn’t believe it. My promo was elesh. Last card first pack was compleated. Last card last pack was regular elesh norn. Traded my friend the promo elesh for his beat up ancient tomb. Kept the compleated for my Roon edh deck and the other one is chilling in my binder for now 😅

Love ur content Seth.

I expect priest sees play in modern infect because of adding extra poison to every buff, but I could see it becoming that your opponent controls in alchemy

@baboyaga7711

Жыл бұрын

I don't see Rotpriest in modern infect honestly. The deck is too narrow and linear. Hard to make room for something that doesn't immediately benefits the infect plan.

"Look at me! I'm Toxic Rick!"

Kinda surprised you’re not running a vesuvian duplimancy for insane snowballing

Is there a longer video of meme comps vs goats somewhere?

So i blew all my gold cards on making this deck and its straight murder in ranked explorer. The nut draw happens OFTEN. You a real one saf.

Hilarious that venerated r.p. tripled in price after you posted this LOL

Could Black be worth trying in the deck for Whisper of the Dross? Kills 1/1s, proliferates, and since Rotpriest is a 1/2 It could do double duty in the poison plan.

Wow! Your last video I had posted a comment predicting Rot Priest would eventually get banned! I didn't think we'd be seeing a video like this pop up so fast 😂

O look it is a turn 3 kill.... in standard. Awesome

I think Midnight Guard+Retraction Helix+Altar of the Brood was the last time you could combo on turn 3, so Tarkir Standard.

@jrs3739

Жыл бұрын

technically +Ornithopter...

@seandun7083

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There was minion of the mighty + 2 1 mana pump spells and terror of mount velus for a turn 2 kill a little while ago.

@SoggyWaffles.

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​@@seandun7083terror is from theros

@seandun7083

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@@SoggyWaffles. Theros beyond death, which was still in standard when AFR released.

@jrs3739

Жыл бұрын

@@seandun7083 Oooh, nice one!

can see this splashing a little black for diabolic intent

I have to say this Deck also works in Pioneer but I have some Changes in that list. Besides rotpriests that Deck also plays benthic biomancers on 1 and to better use his loot ability I opted for snakeskin vails. If you want i can give you the full list

A very similar turn 3 win was possible using this same strategy. T1 Delver, T2 Flip + Ivy hit down to 17, Turn 3 Double giant growth hit for 9 and 8 and win.

This deck seems fun in pioneer. Coco to dig for ropriest and ivy then next turn just poison them out

I kind of want to try Rotpriest with a Spellskite

If you chancellor of the tangle could help ramp and then be the card exiled for March of burgeoning life in modern?

@MTGGoldfish

Жыл бұрын

Ohh, that's spicy. Seems worth trying in Modern at least.

Reminds me of Fynn, the fangbearer

Dude, legacy and moderns infect is gonna crack open with rotpriest

Minion of the Mighty Phyrexian.

"One of the meme-iest decks we've ever played." Are you sure about that Seth?

“Okay maybe rotpriest is just busted”! Damn I wish we were young and neighbors and could play magic all day together. Thanks for sharing

We had a turn 2 combo from forgotten realms standard.

I honestly would to tye gaea pump protection spell from brother's war it gives so much Also the fastest win is the turn 2 or 3 minion of the mighty combo

So many people are playing this in standard and it's kicking my butt 🤣

This is literally the list mtgmalone played yesterday

I think a bant version of this deck would be broken cuz then u would have illuminator virtuoso and brutal cathar and u prob could run vesuvan duplimancy

The turn 1 infect deck was standard in mirrodin

Well Green and Simic have made a massive comeback in this upcoming set. Turn 3 kill though, probably a bit excessive. This is gonna be nerfed where it says, once per turn surely?

Might be bonkers in historic with the good white tutors for 1 drops

Any deck that can make Burgeoning work MUST be a good deck.

I pulled a borderless venerated rotpriest yesterday, didn’t realize it’s so good and 11$ rn!! Lol!!

Standard seems like its going to be great fun /s

I really like this deck. It was a lot of fun to watch. Have you considered generously gifting an Archfiend of the Dross to your opponent and Heartless Acting it? I know that this has to be in other formats then standard, but perhaps you can make int work.

@gingerplz1

Жыл бұрын

Archfiend of Dross + Metamorphic Transformation is an instant win. Otherwise you can use Mystic Reflection and heartless act.

Timely interference could be real solid in this

Starting to think that leeches is going to be the counter meme in the future.

Can anyone explain me why phase out spells trigger 2 toxic counters instead of one?

wow what a deck. even Cut Down is awkward as a solution here, since just targeting the Rotpriest with the spot removal triggers it. I think the actual best answer in the format against this kind of deck is one of the little creature sweepers like Brotherhood's End, Path of Peril, or Temporary Lockdown.

@MTGGoldfish

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, cheap sweepers to get around protection is a good way to answer the deck.

Hey Zef, it’s Ib, um, Devilish Valet was fast too!

Oooppouunent!

I feel like the deck needs to be played as simic tempo until you hit rot priest when it becomes storm combo. There were games here that looked like a match if you played them the tempo way- use your burgeoning life on your drake, use marches to phase out opponent's entire board and your creatures, etc., etc., that weren't good, but gave you a shot. If the shell was built that way (maybe plus a little card draw, though not sure what spell- cgb used curiosity effects which might be solid as synergizes with Ivy), plus on counter spells, down on the 3 mana 4/4s and proliferate guy plan) I think it'll be pretty gross in Bo1 like you said, especially since BOTH game plans while wildly different in power level are both very similarly... very toxic to play against

Does rotpriest trigger twice on March of swirling mist because it’s targeted, then phases out then phases back in? Just confused how 2 Rot priest trigger 4 counters?

We have Fauna Shaman in Standard, we could use it to tutor Rotpriest

I think, this deck might have some legs if you just splash green in a heroic deck; Virtuoso, Rotpriest, and Shredder? Seems decent

What kind of joyless individual plays control during the early access event?

Also landfall from zendikar a few years ago was turn 3 possible :)