This mans tribal hate prevents him from seeing some of these commanders for how good they are

Pretty surprised that Voja didn't make this list, it's a pretty popular and powerful commander.

@dominiquereed2217

6 күн бұрын

Shhhhh lol just a good wolfy boy

@krislisancho2852

6 күн бұрын

I run a fairly budget voja, no counter doublers (primal vigor/doubling season, etc) and its still never not popped off.

@ericyang8474

6 күн бұрын

​@krislisancho2852 I feel like you just need to run elfball and low to the ground, play turn 3 Voja, and swing. It's pretty much mono green that also gives you an excuse to play white and red, I can't see how you wouldn't pop off with it.

@krislisancho2852

6 күн бұрын

@@ericyang8474 never not popped off. Reading the card explains the card

@ryansegura8566

5 күн бұрын

Where would voja place you think?

2:31 azlask is a lot more scary when you realize that you can proliferate experience counters

@lollyblaster

5 күн бұрын

oh shit youre right lol. this video made me re-evaluate ulalek going infinite vs azlask threat.

@theotherguy4478

5 күн бұрын

Azlask can go infinite, too.

@ChrisenMedia

11 сағат бұрын

and using cards like Najeela and Maskwood Nexus, he is crazy

I still can’t wrap my head around how Nadu got printed. Did they just not playtest it? Like lmao what happened

@ThaMobstarr

6 күн бұрын

It's simply Hasbro's greed that led them to release Nadu.

@midnogreen8405

5 күн бұрын

in a world where akromas will and inquisid blood are in precons, they have to print like this..

@hyperjank5129

4 күн бұрын

The best part of nadu is how many ways they could have fixed it by changing 1 word.

@CrunchesFPS

3 күн бұрын

Who cares? he’s pretty fair in cedh decks and should be treated like all the other powerful commanders such as narset in anything below cedh.

The 'attacks an opponent' language on kaalia is because the later language about the angel/dragon/demon that comes into the field. Specifically it's to remove any ambiguity about which opponent is being attacked by that new creature.

Pantlaza in a blink theme is probably an A tier commander

@mitchellloughlin4150

6 күн бұрын

Cream of the crop makes this deck crazy

@whome806

6 күн бұрын

Dang that's nasty going to scoop that haha

@mibbzx1493

6 күн бұрын

Yea gotta agree here. That card just a repeating 2 for one

@noobtuber10

6 күн бұрын

Shhh, dont tell people the secret tech of winning the turn you cast pantlaza thats not 95 lands

@KATOMJ2RULZ

6 күн бұрын

Especially when you have roaming throne on board you can just double the discover

I have no idea how veryran is just slept on by everyone

Kaalia is limited in that it's prevented from it's summon effect triggering if you swing at a planeswalker or a battle.

@justinlarimore1349

5 күн бұрын

Planeswalker yes but battles were not around yet when it came out

@abrahamlesmana5104

4 күн бұрын

If u are running battles in your kaalia deck then it is your deckbuilding problem lol

Kaalia's text reads "tapped and attacking that opponent" because if the match is multiplayer you could choose to have the cheated creature attack another opponent if it did not

crazy how 3 pretty OLD commanders ARE STILL SUPER O.P. AND PRESENT !!!

You know that you are the Threat if you do politics with your Opponents lands in Satya Decks, with land destruction

Kalia says “that opponent” because it is specifying that it has to attack the opponent the triggering creature is attacking. It can’t come into play attacking any opponent.

Looking at this list tells me that you really need to get out and play some more.

Pantlaza is easily S tier if you build it right. Deck is just too OP with blink theme and a few combo pieces

@villageflippinidiot

6 күн бұрын

What are the best combo pieces?

@lollyblaster

5 күн бұрын

i focused my sun flavoured deck solely around cheating them out, but added what i could to blink. deck's so fun

@zcohen17

5 күн бұрын

@@lollyblaster I know, I love the deck. Already has a reputation in my pod. They joke every turn past turn 3 is just another problem that has to be dealt with asap.

@IamSpeed10

5 күн бұрын

What are the best blink pieces?

@frigidblaze1

4 күн бұрын

ya idk about s tier my guy your competing with decks that infinite turn 3-4

Stella has been a fun change up. A lot of my pod thought she focused on storming until I got the perfect turn 5 Twisted fealty loop. It’s a nice change of pace from the Cold War my Zaxara deck would have with the Ur-dragon player

@ThaMobstarr

6 күн бұрын

Is your pod focused on high power? I only read people on Reddit saying that they are not a fan of the Stella Lee combos.

@TyDefender

6 күн бұрын

@@ThaMobstarr we end at 7. Stella pushes what they will tolerate, and it’s made acceptable by me not running tutors

Can confirm Mothman is dope. I haven't touched my precon and it consistently wins against tuned and mid-tier decks

Gonna have to disagree with you assessment of Omo. With the everything counters and tron lands it's SUPER easy to get your mana pool set up, and with the mana reflection enchantment that's also in the precon you're tapping them for 6 colorless. Omo has you practically swimming in mana which makes those big hydras even more scary. Last game I played with her ended with 18x 18/18 hydras on the board. Omo goes hard as a commander.

@Xonides

6 күн бұрын

I played a game against an Omo precon and it won turn 6 with 8 lands. Ulvenwald Hydra turn 4, into Aggressive Biomancy turn 5, nuked the board, swung out turn 6 with 7 8/8s. (It was a 3 player pod)

@TrashcanActual

6 күн бұрын

@@Xonides Yeah dude, the deck ramps out SO quick with Omo just pecking away to everything tokens. You can get truly massive creatures out in no time at all. First time I played with the deck I slapped down a 21/20 Nyxborne Hydra that brough with it 18x 18/18 hydra tokens.

@le_chimp

6 күн бұрын

Omo has no protection at all and after it is removed, the everything counters lose all functionality. Yes, if you play it in a casual pod with low power level, where no one plays removal, Omo goes crazy like every Simic Commander.

@andresdiamantino4188

5 күн бұрын

Almost all youtubers and reviewers I've seen underestimate Omo until they play them.

@sebastianahrens2385

3 күн бұрын

@@Xonides How did it get to 7 8/8s? Assuming 6 lands going into to turn 4, which becomes 8 after Ulvenwald Hydra's ETB and the land drop for the turn, that'd mean 8 or maybe 9 mana in turn 5 for Aggressive Biomancy, which would create 3 tokes, but not 6, bcause the card's cost is XXGB. With the Hydra's copies' ETBs and a land drop that'd be somewhere around 13 lands for turn 6 and swinging with 4 13/13s then?

Awesome video! Agree with most of this I’d make these changes: Edgar- S Miirym, Kaalia, Atraxa- A Azlask - B

Nadu good job wotc nice job with the play testing as well how is Nadu not a mythic

@ThaMobstarr

6 күн бұрын

What would being Mythic have changed? Just the number of Nadu's out there.

@Dr.AculaMD

6 күн бұрын

Buy as many copies as possible!

Ran my Azlask today a few times. Got set up super fast each time. 5+ experience counters. Soon as I used his ability it basically ruined the person I attacked after just once.

@ChrisenMedia

11 сағат бұрын

that's annihilator. It's like torturing a person. You take them down, piece by piece until they are left with nothing, but they are still alive.

Ulalek under azlask is wild. A good ulalek will obliterate aslask before you can accrue any experience tokens Also- three words, Kaalia land destruction. Your pod is too nice to you 🤣

This is just my opinion, but: -Sauron, Ur-Dragon, and Miirym are A tier imo. Sauron is not only great colors for reanimator, but also makes a token that's great for sacrifice effects and probably one the craziest ward ability to protect him. The Ur-Dragon is a lot of mana, but just by being your commander, it discounts any and all of your dragons. Dragons are very well supported and being able to choose the best ones at a permanent discount is quite strong. It's only held back because of the double-edged sword of being a WUBRG commander. Miirym doesn't have as much to work with, but is similarly strong due to being able to double the value of any dragon you play and having ward is a significant factor. It might actually be B tier, but it competes with Ur Dragon often, so I'd just put them together. -Pantlaza, Zhulodok, Kaalia, and Mothman are B tier imo. Pantlaza is pretty good at ramping into other combo pieces, ramp, or into your important dinosaurs. Similar to the Ur-Dragon, Pantlaza is great because Dinosaurs are a strong and well supported tribe, so its quite easy to swing things in your favor. Zhulodok does have the disadvantage of being colorless... but colorless is actually really easy to ramp, and that's exactly what he wants you to do. Don't underestimate Cascade. Kaalia being able to cheat in the best of the main big creatures in each of her colors is stupid good. The main thing holding her back, though, is that everyone knows this, and she needs a lot of help to stay on the board. Mothman is probably a little biased on my part, but I cannot stress enough how often I've seen players underestimate rad counters. And how often players think this commander sucks because they built it as a "win through mill" deck but forget to include payoffs like sidisi. It's also the best mill colors imo.

Would you prefer Pantlaza or Gishath for Dinosaur Tribal? I like to think that while Pantlaza is a more safe option, Gishath has a higher ceiling if it manages to hit.

@rutgernouwens

6 күн бұрын

I'd say Gishath is more straight forward, Pantlaza has a higher ceiling. Gishath will run more ramp and combat tricks, Pantlaza wants to emphatize more on etbs (blink, flash, burn). I ran dinos with Gishath at the helm and now Pantlaza pilots the deck. They are both very fun, my only issue with having 8 mana in the command zone is that it can be frustrating to get started.

@remyremz6639

6 күн бұрын

Pantlaza give u way more value, the deck runs on its own gisath you hit people. Pantalza when u remove her she comes back and ahs à trigger, gisath again needs to connect, gisath is much more commander centric

@raptorjesus7952

6 күн бұрын

@@remyremz6639 fair enough, at least both goes very well on each other's deck. I might give Pantlaza a try as the commander of my Dino tribal Deck. The quantity of High quality dinos is astonishing with the support they got un the latest sets! 🦖

@ac_nerd9794

6 күн бұрын

Gishath is personally my tribal commander. All about getting them dinosaurs out to attack.

@Grimkahn1901

6 күн бұрын

As a pantlaza player, with a deck full of huge and impactful dinos, as well as a very heavy ramp package that allows for multiple heavy spells a turn, Id pick pantlaza over gishath any day because it racks me up much more value in the long run on top of making my choices more versatile with being allowed to put a spell I don't wish to cast in that moment to my hand. You're more likely to wiff off of gishath then you ever will with pantlaza.

I usually switch out my Korvold for Ziatora or Prossh depending on my pod strength. Hes just…ugh so good lmao. I cant believe all the treasure support that’s been coming out one after another.

Satya and phasing out the tokens can/ could be broken if done right (phasing out doesn't kill tokens)

Me over here with my Locust God and fresh built Ramos 😅

Edgar Markov oughta be an A. It's so damn fast.

@thecanadian5428

6 күн бұрын

He sure is

@1973mckenzie

6 күн бұрын

Agreed!

Seeing a lot of these commanders ranked as B is so crazy. Just goes to show how fast/strong Stella and Nadu are. I built Stella and winning turn four is considered slow for the deck.

@Breadcutter

5 күн бұрын

Maybe my friend you have built a cedh deck there

@evangrescol7772

2 күн бұрын

​@@Breadcutter Stella and Nadu definitely earned their spots at the cEDH table because of how fast they can pull your entire deck out.

Thanks appreciate all the videos you do.

You know I’ve been testing getting out Talion out before Nadu and I always choose 1 lol it makes everything awkward I guess. Idk 😅maybe I’m just not that good to understand why they tend to slow down after I choose 1

Kaalia is usually a combo deck with a good stuff fallback plan, not a tribal list

Atraxa is one of the top cEDH commanders... How is it B tier?

@Krozice

3 күн бұрын

Because it is not the same Atraxa, the video mention praetor's voice, the top cEDH is Atraxa, Grand unifier

@ProAverageJoe

3 күн бұрын

@@Krozice oh dang I didn't realize that. You're totally right homie 🤙 my bad

Necrobloom can be an easy A tier honestly. Landfall is strong. Add in a way to add extra draw and dredge lands you want. Entomb would be strong in it i feel. Cultivator collosuss, avenger of zendikar, scuteswarm. Etc.

For kaalia it's that opponent not just an opponent so you can't cheat in a card and attack someone else

What about Najeela the Blade Blossom she has a lot of combo potential and can really be fun!

I would've tiered them up the same. Although half the commanders in B tier I feel CAN fall in a spot between A&S because well... because mid range. 😂

Galadriel, light of valinor is pretty nuts too.

@AtlasAdvice254

5 күн бұрын

Massively agree, people sleep on it because they think it’s just elf ball

Pantlaza not being S tier is wild it can run out the entire deck just like korvold can

Depending on how you build your deck with korvold he is just so strong you can build him voltron but drain and treasure is just the better option

@screamyhawk4004

4 күн бұрын

I've just found is so expensive to make Korvold works great.

Pantlaza in C even in a powerful card specific ranking feels wrong. I’ve got an intentionally slowed down version of a 🦖 deck that’s still devastating with Pantlaza at the front.

@ML-yn9yu

6 күн бұрын

He went off the text of the cards, not how they actually played. Pantlaza should be is an S/A -tier commander.

@ThaMobstarr

6 күн бұрын

The channel has sadly become somewhat of an outrage/drama sub. That's why he does such things, to stir up controversy and discussions under his videos to let them trend more and show up in more people's frontpage.

Hakbal won against Edgar Markov, Lathril and alela in a tribal game i recently put together. Pantlaza still feels like my most powerful deck though.

Omo and maze's end lol

I was hoping to see Herigast here

surprised azlask is below ulalek. ulalek introduces insane infinite combos with eldrazis with flash, and any instant that bounces. ulalek is also much easier to utilize in my opinion but its cool to see azlask receiving praise

Nadu out here comboing with a ham sandwich

So early for this one

I've destroyed all those commanders and KEPT on par with the amount of vampires that edgar makes with Caesar. I've swung 30 soldiers that are 6/6 at someone dealing 30 dmg while making 2 tapped and attacking soldiers with an additional combat phase so many times on spelltable, at a family function and with my mtg group. He needs to be up there, I just kill mothman and board wipe then start the shenanigans all over again😩

Built a new deck with the new Ashling at the head. Put basilisk collar on her and watch people cry as you consistently board wipe them

How is ur dragon a c tier

Personally I think Ur-Dragon is S and Miirym is A due to all the cost reductions you can get for these dragons.

How is urza not on the list

the gap between casual and cedh are way to close.

Omo on this Lust and voja Not... Ok😅

Pantalaza and Ur-Dragon definitely deserve an A. Personally. Anyone agree? 🤔

All this just for my 20/20 ward 3 wolf to 1 tap you

I have some (hopefully) constructive criticism. I notice when you read the commander's text, you rush through it as fast as you can talk, as if you're thinking "I know this is boring and you don't wanna hear me read this, audience; lemme just read it fast so the new guys can get it." Well, I'm a new guy. I don't know what most of these commander's text is. I wanna hear it, that's part of the informational value of the video - in order to understand these commanders, I have to understand what they do, and reading cards is part of the game. Here's my main problem - when you read fast, you almost completely stop enunciating. You mumble heavily, and I can't understand what you're saying. So the experienced guys still have to wait while you read the commander's text for anyone who doesn't know it, but people like me can't really make out what you're saying (I assume I'm not alone). So, it doesn't really help either group. And I gotta pause and look at the screen to read the card. Can you still enunciate the words clearly while you read fast? Or, alternately, can you slow it down enough that you're able to maintain enunciation so we can make out what you're saying? Thank you!

@Implicit_Truth

2 күн бұрын

Totally agree. I find myself pausing a ton when watching their videos, everything seems very rushed.

Disagree on Atraxa, but I admit it isn’t S tier either. Probably A tier. Again, it just depends on how you build it.

Necrobloom A Tier

dino tribal pantlaza is clearly my best deck.........C is a joke.....ur dragon and zhulodok as well

Saying kaalia is b or c tier is actually insane 😂

Hard to take this seriously when he says Edgar Markov and Ulalek are B-tier commanders.

Edgar at B tier bro?come on man.

You way under valued Edgar. He got banned in 1v1 for how powerful he is....

mirrym c omo c mothman d edgar a sauron b ur dragon a as well thats how i feel

A player thinking Yuriko is only A Tier is a player that never played against Yuriko. Yes Stellar Lee is faster, but way easier to control than Yuriko. Edit: Ok, watched the tierlist to the end, holy shit this is a mess. 🤣

@riznix9237

5 күн бұрын

You are not wrong at all

First

Switch Stella Lee and Yuriko

@TheDJconspiracy

6 күн бұрын

Yuriko doesn't quite reach Stella Lee areas of speed. Yuriko is more on the aggressive aspects of playstyle. Not tempo

@lemonsq2767

6 күн бұрын

Yup, played both and stella lee is much more faster and consistent

@derpnowitzki1766

6 күн бұрын

Stella doesn't have the resiliency of Yuriko. Yuriko plays through removal and stax incredibly well. Id take Yuriko any day

@TheDJconspiracy

6 күн бұрын

@derpnowitzki1766 I'm not knocking yuriko. It's a great commander but in this day and age you hardly see stax as consistently in the ranks of cEDH tournaments these days. Stella Lee has just been optimized easily this generation of edh to just dominate the board via its aggressive tempo. I seen a stella win turn 2 so many times it's funny

@le_chimp

6 күн бұрын

@@TheDJconspiracy "Yuriko doesn't quite reach Stella Lee areas of speed. Yuriko is more on the aggressive aspects of playstyle. Not tempo" Oh, I missed that this tierlist was about tempo and not about overall strength of the commanders. On a serious note, I see both of them played very successfully in cedh and could see arguments for both of them. The egregious part about this video is that the youtuber thinks that Yuriko is only A-Tier.