As a Catholic, I respect that you're touching on this topic and I really hope more Protestant voices identify this problem and address it. It's a problem that we Catholics are dealing with ourselves, predominantly amongst cradle Catholic families who neglect catechesis.

@timboslice980

9 ай бұрын

Amen... I just got confirmed in the church this easter. I met dozens of catholics who were amazed at my Bible knowledge. I was in RCIA at the time and it was hosted by the grandmother of a huge Italian family. Their kids go to a protestant christian school and were dealing with a tremendous amount of scrutiny from the protestant teachers. The teacher assigned the the kids to do a report on their specific eschatologies. The poor catholic kids couldn't really articulate their eschatology, any of them. They were telling me how embarrassing it was for them and how my RCIA director didn't really have an answer for them. She said well maybe we can't explain it as well as the protestants but we can still have faith. I stopped her and showed her in our RCIA booklet they have a whole section on it. They had never heard the word eschatology before, I found what I could in the catechism for them and showed them some links to catholic answers talking about it. They were so happy to find that our faith does make sense. They got into apologetics from there and Now those kids started a catholic Bible study club at the school and the teachers are all for it. Good story for everybody.

@mayuasdf4281

Ай бұрын

Here in Chile I see it all the time. Older generations believe in God but don’t go to mass, they turn to witches so they can solve their problems, and talk about zodiac signs. I am 25 years old and recently converted, but I have never felt like my family, who went to catechesis and have been praying for a long time, can guide me correct me in the faith, since they barely talk about God aside from cultural expressions related to Him. I see what that does to their soul, they are slowly losing faith… but I wonder, how are you going to remain faithful if you don’t get closer to God through the word or communion? It’s sad, because I don’t know how to reach them, I feel like their hearts are hardened. And I understand why, they’ve had a difficult life. I know works won’t save them, only faith. But faith without works is dead, and they refer to people that follow the word of God as fanatics. :( Which makes me feel like I can’t live my faith truthfully without being referred as an extremist. I do either way, but it doesn’t stop me from feeling a little bad and alone. God bless you. 🙌🏻

What you said about Norway is very true. I'm pretty sure most people who go to church here only go to it because it's a social thing. I'm the only teenager who goes to my church and it feels really weird sometimes, the other Christians my age don't even go to church, they usually just either work for the church or go to the youth group meetings at the mission. Some of my friends say it's odd that i am so strong in my faith when the other Christians they know aren't.

@redeemedzoomer6053

9 ай бұрын

Praying for you! Stay strong in the faith

@shanezarcone5401

9 ай бұрын

That's terrible, even in my church in the US church attendance is really low among people younger than 35 or so, please don't be discouraged. Christ is with you even when your peers are not.

@ihaveaids420

9 ай бұрын

Jeg er også en kristen norsk tenåring. Jeg skal til konfirmasjon på søndagen og det bare ser ut som at mange gjør det for penger istedet for Gud. Det er forferdelig hvor lite mengde unge folk den Norske kirka har. Og i min lokale kirke så er det dans med telefoner og sosial media som hovedmål. Jeg forstår ikke hvorfor de går for sosial media istedet for Guds sin lære og hvordan Jesus redder deg fra evig lidelse. Jeg ønsket at folk kunne gjøre det Redeemed Zoomer gjør men i Norge. Ungene i Norge er dypt ikke kristen noe mer. Jeg er faktisk litt redd for å si ut høyt at jeg er kristen fordi det er et så ekstremt sekulær miljø i skoler og andre steder der vi går. Jeg håper Gud kan vise meg hva jeg kan gjøre til å redde kristendommen i Norge. For noen dager siden var det prat om hellige kriger i samfunnsfag og det ble sagt at kristene drepte folk i krigene (helt sikkert en referanse til korstogene) og læreren sa ja når hun ikke forsto at det var et forsvar til å redde kristendommen. Jeg ser så mye anti-kristen media i Norge nå. Det er helt forferdelig

@fisfishy1244

5 ай бұрын

Amen... I just got confirmed in the church this easter. I met dozens of catholics who were amazed at my Bible knowledge. I was in RCIA at the time and it was hosted by the grandmother of a huge Italian family. Their kids go to a protestant christian school and were dealing with a tremendous amount of scrutiny from the protestant teachers. The teacher assigned the the kids to do a report on their specific eschatologies. The poor catholic kids couldn't really articulate their eschatology, any of them. They were telling me how embarrassing it was for them and how my RCIA director didn't really have an answer for them. She said well maybe we can't explain it as well as the protestants but we can still have faith. I stopped her and showed her in our RCIA booklet they have a whole section on it. They had never heard the word eschatology before, I found what I could in the catechism for them and showed them some links to catholic answers talking about it. They were so happy to find that our faith does make sense. They got into apologetics from there and Now those kids started a catholic Bible study club at the school and the teachers are all for it. Good story for everybody.@@redeemedzoomer6053

@edim108

4 ай бұрын

That is basically the exact same here in Poland. Something like 85% identify as Catholic but of these only around 40% are "practicing" meaning they go to church regularly, they pray, they partake the sacraments, etc. The other 60% are saying they're Catholic when they're not and only do so bc being Catholic is the status quo, it is "the base line", the "norm", and they only do so bc they were dragged into it by their parents who also weren't really Catholic but identified as such bc their parents did and so on. If you went around the country and collected data on what people ACTUALLY believe, not what they declare in the population census, it'd be a very similar story to this study in the US. Most people here are incredibly ignorant to the actual theology of what they claim to believe, to the point where the overwhelming majority of them haven't even read the bible and don't know what's actually in it, and that is despite religion being part of the schooling program from elementary school all the way to high school.

The fact that this man can focus so well on Minecraft and speak Biblical truth with little stuttering for 24 mins is crazy. I would be struggling to get a sentence through.

@wreckmedia

9 ай бұрын

Different gifts from the same spirit.

@normanclatcher

9 ай бұрын

Some people can hold deep conversations while driving a car. This is similar, and while there's less on the line in a physical sense, there's more at stake as it pertains to our walk and the Kingdom.

@fisfishy1244

5 ай бұрын

Amen... I just got confirmed in the church this easter. I met dozens of catholics who were amazed at my Bible knowledge. I was in RCIA at the time and it was hosted by the grandmother of a huge Italian family. Their kids go to a protestant christian school and were dealing with a tremendous amount of scrutiny from the protestant teachers. The teacher assigned the the kids to do a report on their specific eschatologies. The poor catholic kids couldn't really articulate their eschatology, any of them. They were telling me how embarrassing it was for them and how my RCIA director didn't really have an answer for them. She said well maybe we can't explain it as well as the protestants but we can still have faith. I stopped her and showed her in our RCIA booklet they have a whole section on it. They had never heard the word eschatology before, I found what I could in the catechism for them and showed them some links to catholic answers talking about it. They were so happy to find that our faith does make sense. They got into apologetics from there and Now those kids started a catholic Bible study club at the school and the teachers are all for it. Good story for everybody.

@igorlopes7589

4 ай бұрын

I have a conspiracy theory that the audio and the video are done separately

@Young_Christian7

4 ай бұрын

@igorlopes7589 I don't think so. In one video he fell and stop talking to say "oh well, I just died." In another one someone ran across his screen and he said "oh, hello." He makes a couple mistakes so he's probably doing it while playing. Btw you can also hear the keys and mouse so.

As the old saying goes, "Good people don't go to heaven, forgiven people do"

I'm impressed how many times you said "moralistic therapeutic deism" without tripping over the words.

@princewillmadugba

9 ай бұрын

He deserves a like for that, I would have tripped out

I’m Catholic and love to see Protestants who still care abt Christ and also the state of America. Keep doing what ur doing, nice work man!!

I’m a Christian and my faith grew because of this channel. You aren’t afraid of offending people, and you teach what other people are not willing to teach. I’m pretty young, and the stuff they teach me at church is pretty vague.

As a Noahide, it has come to my realization that modern American society also has 7 laws that dictate what people think. 1. Liberalism is God 2. All men are created equal 3. Advance progress; don't question it 4. Break old traditions and reverse every role 5. The ultimate goal in life is the pursuit of pleasure 6. To be submissive and nice is a virtue in and of itself 7. Do what thou willt, but you still have to make money to earn a living

@Polyhexgaming

9 ай бұрын

You can’t really categorize all modern American society as a whole. It doesn’t work like that.

@peopleskingdomofwolcottia

9 ай бұрын

@@Polyhexgaming These aren't the values of every American, but I have noticed this trend becoming increasingly apparent.

I remember reading a definition of Deism as where one believes in god, but reserves the right to worship the devil.

@phoenixjones7191

8 ай бұрын

Well I suppose if you are theist who believes in free will then this is true for everybody. The inability to worship the devil or to worship God wouldn't be free will.

You know it’s a good day when Zoomer uploads

@Epicurus48

9 ай бұрын

Man don’t infest the comment sections with these types of comments

@hernandezstopmotionangamin9298

9 ай бұрын

@@Epicurus48 Brother in Christ with all do respect am not trying to do anything

@Epicurus48

9 ай бұрын

@@hernandezstopmotionangamin9298 nah you good i was just saying overused comments like these aren’t it

Chesterton wrote in Orthodoxy that his contemporaries say that religions around the world differ really only in their rites, but the content remains relatively the same. He objected this very elegantly, if I may say so myself. Religions are pretty similar in rites. Where they differ wildly is in the contents. And Christianity stands out for being the only non-merit-based religion in the world. In catholic religion class over here in Germany, where we don't really learn anything about Catholicism, I held a presentation on St. Augustine's Confessions for my yearly GFS (an oral exam in the form of a presentation). I got a good enough grade, but the reason why my teacher didn't give me a better one, and these are her words, was because my presentation was too theological. I guess my audience wasn't prepared for that much theology at once, but come on, it's Augustine, and I condensed it a l o t. Besides, I had the feeling that nobody was going to mention these theological principles to those poor students if I didn't do it myself, since I'm the only one in my whole school that I know has read the Confessions or any Christian book (like Screwtape Letters, which would never be published today) for that matter. As you said, we shouldn't simply complain about how bad modern times are and how we need to go back to the middle ages, but I add to it. I say we need to be crusaders today, so that the Kingdom of God may reach the farthest corners of the globe.

@ForGondor-cv4jf

9 ай бұрын

Don't let a bad religion class discourage you. Realize that there are people who would love to hear a presentation on St. Augustine (me). Greetings from an American Catholic Youth! God bless

As a Christian and lifelong artist, I look at the intricate creation found in every corner of the globe. There's so much beauty, logic, and diversity in nature. When you're an artist, your creations are personal. Your characters, worlds, and things you've drawn are beloved! Why would God put insurmountable care into Earth, much less the universe, and then forget about it?

@Murk_Matter

9 ай бұрын

Its because god doesn't fit what i want him to be. Im saying what those people believe here not my opinion

@bartoszduszczyk1

9 ай бұрын

Well, it's tough question but in my opinion He doesn't care in the way you probably expect Him to care because His creation is already done and He already gave us everything we need. It's only up to us if we accept it or not. God knows we are all able to figure out all things in this world if we do it properly.

@Murk_Matter

9 ай бұрын

And what of the things out of this world

@bartoszduszczyk1

9 ай бұрын

​@@Murk_MatterI think mind gives us capability to understand things out of this world, which some of them were revealed to us through the prophets of the Bible, but we don't live beside our world so we can't experience them ourselves.

@timboslice980

9 ай бұрын

Nah... you're onto something. I'm an artist myself. I draw portraits for a specialty. When you get deep down into the details of what makes a person unique, it always feels like you're making something ugly but you ride out this balance until you get there. Making beauty in our imperfections is another link artists share with the lord. I'm sure of it.... kind of like God creating and at every step, stopping and saying it is good. Somewhat redundant, you'd think if God made it, he wouldn't have to give his opinion as well. Still it shows that he reflects.... thinks about what he has made.

In all honesty, acknowledging that God is real is a good first step. It is not difficult to convince someone like this that God did not abandon us.

@shanezarcone5401

9 ай бұрын

I actually think people like this are harder to teach, because they think they already have the answers, as compared to say an agnostic who will say they don't know. Same goes for any religions that take from Christianity, like JWs for example. The fight for truth is always worth it, never give up on the lost. /)

@JDthegamer209

9 ай бұрын

I used to be a MTD. I'm so thankful that I found Jesus and that he delivered me from that pointless dead faith.

“You don’t want to be that guy” -RedeemedZoomer 2023

God is the God of the bible not Santa, which is how many Americans treat him. He doesn't weigh your good deeds vs your bad deeds. Thank you for making this video!

MTD has another name: Dead faith.

@AnonymousPHofficial

9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

The thing you said about 12 minutes in about not giving these vague teachings and letting the Church become like the world, thank you very much for saying this. Part of why i was originally so turned away from christianity is because i was presented a bunch of lukewarm teachings that left no impact on me. The only reason i came back was because i questioned my own beliefs and figured out the truth. If i was just told the truth in the first place, i would not have to do that

Filipino Christian here... I'm always surprised at the fact that westerners have like created an "ism" for just about anything. You wake up one day and find that you already belong to this or that category... and unknowingly. 😂 (But appreciate being introduced to the concept. Read an article on it & currently doing an internal audit about what I believe.)

MTD is what you get when you're too caught up in worldly things to think about spiritual matters

@deleted01

9 ай бұрын

Many MTD people are probably closeted atheists. They claim they believe in God because they don't want others (especially theists) to make bad assumptions about them.

My theology professor literally brought this up today!!

DUDE! THIS IS INSANE! We literally just talked about MTD in my Christianity class at school yesterday!

You’re a really nice guy and your videos are very interesting. As a an 18 years old orthodox I would really like to have the occasion to speak to someone like you. Keep up the good work!

@jakinboaz8558

9 ай бұрын

I’ve heard Kyle is a good orthodox KZreadr, and he had a conversation with RZ

@todoranandrei8716

9 ай бұрын

Salut frate! Esti roman?

@serafimbarbu7711

9 ай бұрын

@@todoranandrei8716 Foarte român, mă bucur să văd că mai sunt și compatrioți români care urmăresc content de calitate. Zi faină să ai!

@viperking299

9 ай бұрын

@@serafimbarbu7711 S-a strans comitetul de Romani de pe canalul lui Redeemed Zoomer

I used to be a moralistic therapeutic deist throughout most of my teenage years, and God thankfully delivered me from that earlier this year.

I was wondering when we'd see a video about the juvenalization of religion. Top notch

8:55 This part really spoke to me: "God put you here for a reason." That one's sufferings, the evil they endured or witnessed others endure, and everything else, has the potential to be redeemed by God's golden touch-- It's remarkable and beautiful. It invigorates my will, and inspires me to find meaning in the toil and find beauty in the everyday, to God's glory and for my own benefit, and not merely so that I alone may gain, but so that others might benefit too, if possible. The Gospel is about so much more than just being a good person. Heaven is not some place where "good people" go. It's where redeemed people go. And it's where God is. (P.S. we certainly cannot go back to the good old days. But we can work to create a better future. God bless all of you.)

@djcoopes7569

9 ай бұрын

thats the spirit!

@SyoDraws

9 ай бұрын

@@djcoopes7569 👍👍👍😁

@natanaelsantos3924

9 ай бұрын

Amen, brother.

@swatchbox6789

8 ай бұрын

Absolutely beautifully said, thank you for this!

@SyoDraws

8 ай бұрын

@@swatchbox6789 no problem

Moralistic Therapeutic Deism MT Deism Empty Deism Label checks out

@SyoDraws

9 ай бұрын

Lol

@toilet_cleaner_man

9 ай бұрын

Deism in general is empty, we see proof of the work of God everywhere, if God is some abstract thing then we wouldn't have a book with 3/4ths of a million words long testifying to his work and plans. "For Nothing hidden will not be revealed, nothing concealed will not be known."

@spectoestis3106

9 ай бұрын

You're pushing it, it's true but you're pushing it

Very important to understand. Therapeutic, because "it feels good/ feels bad" is treated as equivalent to good/ evil and true / false. The other major religion calls itself atheism but is actually a Mother Earth religion that believes the universe is eternal and created itself, and you must obey evolution by progressing past western traditions and Christianity, and we'll all burn in judgment if we don't repent of our climate sins.

the point you made about teaching the actual philosophy of the church is golden. I was a real cafeteria catholic until we studied Christian humanism and morality. Im still not a perfect catholic by far, but Im much closer to God now than I ever was before I took that class. One thing my teacher stressed is that its not insensitive to believe that your religion is right and everyone else is wrong because thast the nature of religion.

Mr. Zoomer, could you do a video on the problems of rabbinic judaism from a christian point of view?

@redeemedzoomer6053

9 ай бұрын

It's coming eventually

@IncredibleMD

9 ай бұрын

@@redeemedzoomer6053 I'd love to hear you talk about Rastafarianism. If you think Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Mormons aren't Christian, oh man, Rastas take the cake.

@phoenixjones7191

8 ай бұрын

​@@IncredibleMDwhat are rastas getting up to? I know nothing about them.

@igorlopes7589

4 ай бұрын

​@@phoenixjones7191They believe the 20th century Emperor of Ethiopia Haile Selassie (Ras Tafari Makonnen) was some sort of Messiah.

@WarriorcatGerda

Ай бұрын

​@@IncredibleMD at first I thought it said Pastafarian

Wow. I've been struggling to put into words what I've been feeling is lost in so many churches that I've been to. Thank you for shining a big spotlight on these extremely important issues. Peace in Christ to you.

Also, I love your point about how catechisms are formatted better than modern textbooks- as a HS teacher, I could definitely take a few notes from catechisms.

12:30 This is absolutely true. I have a passion for Catholic theology, and that was neither formed nor enriched by my CCD classes.

This is also the main religion here in Spain, and we actually have good cathequism, but the thing is that actually not much kids go to sunday school, even when I was a kid (late 2000s to 2010s) like half of the kids in my small town went to it, and then a good part of them (including myself until recently) ended up becoming moralist terapeuthcal deists or agnostics or whatever, I think that the problem here is due to two factors, the overpolitization of Catholicism during the francoist dictatorship, wich after it ended meant a hard turn left for the country and a general dislike in the youngest (at the time) for Catholicism (basically the only mainstream religion here); and second is the problem that here the economy has went downhill from the late 90s and especially the 2008 crisis, so most people work so much that they become easily targeted by hedonistic propaganda to cope with the hardships of life, but luckily younger generations are starting to turn away from leftism, then its only matter of time until the Church does something (I believe that after Pope Francis it will return to be more assertive), its kinda sad depending on Rome for direction, but here there is basically nothing more, you can find some evangelical churches here and there, but they are mostly used by gypsies, and the gypsies usualy want to be left alone

to quote NIV 1 Corinthians 15:17-20 "And if Christ is not raised then ur faith is futile you are still in ur sins. Then those who have also fallen asleep in Christ are lost. If only in this life we have hope in Christ then we are to be pitied more than all men."

Over the past couple months I have been watching your videos and they have been really great for broadening my understanding of God. I used to watch a lot more secular content and will admit I still do sometimes, but since watching your videos I feel much closer to God. Keep up the great work.

I really love your videos!! Thanks for speaking on this topic!

I, 15 years old, have found your videos, and after some consideration, I want to become a Christian. I used to be an atheist but now I want to convert.

@redeemedzoomer6053

9 ай бұрын

that's great! Go to a local church and they'll tell you exactly what to do. Converting is NOT hard. This map can help you find some good churches in your area. www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1PNd_sJagci84PyKmGC6M5VJtaLMEWxg&ll=47.62652330300454%2C-122.20485609999999&z=17

@Demoman714

9 ай бұрын

I looked at the map and all the churches there are like an hour away from me lol ill just go to one of the smaller local churches.

@Avram_Orozco

9 ай бұрын

@@Demoman714why Protestant Christianity? Why Christianity to begin with?

@Demoman714

9 ай бұрын

@@Avram_Orozco what do you mean?

@Avram_Orozco

9 ай бұрын

@@Demoman714What convinced you Christianity is the true religion?

I find this channel so interesting to just watch and listen to, I am not a Christian but I find learning about Christianity so interesting. Thank you for this.

21:58 I’m an evangelical bible college student and I just finished and submitted a paper which talked on this. Almost everything that you bring up as what needs to be taught to combat moral therapeutic deism is regularly taught from the pulpit within evangelical churches, although I didn’t know the terminology for this particular false belief it’s a large part of why I am an evangelical Christian.

Thank you for the video Zoomer every time I watch your videos I always take something away from them

You're assuming that I don't want to be a peasant who dies of smallpox. #GoodOldDays

Hey Zoomer, there's a typo in the thumbnail. Normally I wouldn't bother mentioning it, but since you're a presbyterian, I kinda have to

@Rolando_Cueva

9 ай бұрын

lol

@redeemedzoomer6053

9 ай бұрын

thanks! Fixed it

literally love your videos

I was waiting for this video!! Literaly (because I got a notification days ago but the video changed to Church compass 😅)

I love your videos their amazing.

You sound like my youth pastor lol Thats a good thing hes a really good teacher I agree with pretty much everything you said in this video

I agree with 100% of what you said in this video, you hit the nail on the head.

As a catholic i absolutely agree on the catechism part. Everything i know about theology now i had to learn by myself.

As a Malaysian (also a multicultural society) what you have described is so relatable and applicable over here too

Bro I was literally just looking into Deism, great timing. Although I was looking into the founding fathers Deism more.

I recommend David Barton's book "The American Story: The Beginnings" to get a better understanding of the founding fathers' faith. Most were not Deist, most were Christians. A few were Deists but not the majority.

My theology professor was all on this day one warning us about it. It's engrained in my core.

This might surprise you, but despite disagreeing with you on a lot of matters of faith (to the point I believe you'd call several of my core beliefs heresies), I very much enjoy your content. I'm not a Christian, and if I was, I certainly wouldn't be Presbyterian. I think I'd be somewhere between Methodist and Baptist (though I love me a nice Catholic Cathedral). I am, however, much much a deist. But despite that, I actually found myself agreeing with a lot of what you say in this video about God (though less so about Jesus); especially the idea that modern religion is struggling because it doesn't offer anything secular society doesn't. I've actually thought about the need for another Great Awakening, to combat the incredibly pessimistic brand of liberalism that are quickly becoming akin to religious beliefs in modern America. I do believe in a God, though I believe in a God that is very much a mystery to humans. We can often understand only What He does, but not Why He does it, and much of what we know about God comes from interpreting what He must be like based on what He does (ex: God punishes Evil, so He must be Good). I don't so much believe in the idea that He isn't actively involved in the world, at least in the manner of MTD. God isn't just watching us in silent judgement, but He definitely also isn't going to make that girl you liked in sixth grade talk to you, let alone something like prosperity theology. He's not going to help you miraculously pass your math test, because we must accept the consequences for your actions. You didn't study for the test, so you'll fail it (there's a metaphor for life there). God set things in motion, and knows definitively what He wants the world to be like, but it is our job on Earth to achieve that plan. That is why we're here: To undergo the trials of sin and temptation to, ultimately, return to God more like Him than when we came to Earth. That most of us fall short of perfection is okay, thanks to God's Grace. He is the one judging us, and He wants us to pass the test (though that's not to imply He passes those that don't deserve it), so a grade of less than 100% is still a passing grade. That might FEEL like evil, to us, from our mortal perspective, but it's no more evil than a parent punishing a child for doing wrong. I know I didn't like my parents much when they punished me as a kid, but as an adult, I can see that I was being pretty shitty. I think that this is a big part of the answer to the doubt you had as a kid about whether God was good or evil (at least, from this probable-heretic's perspective, as you seem to come to the conclusion God is Good all on your own). When you would say "we're all bad people", I'd say "we're all imperfect people", but that being imperfect doesn't necessarily make us bad (though perfection is the goal). I don't believe in justification by faith (per se), but I do believe in justification by grace (as previously stated) and justification by works. There are absolutely going to be atheists, who lived godly lives despite not believing in Him, who will be rewarded. God is God; he does not NEED our worship any more than he needs our presence. He simply ENJOYS it. I don't, however, believe that God will punish any of the faithful; but only because I believe that truly having faith in God requires you to be as good a person as you can be, and good people do good things (justification by works). If the goal is to become more like God, we must live as virtuous a life as possible, and I define "virtue" as "living in accordance with the law of God" in opposition to "sin", which is obviously "living in opposition with the law of God". God created us because He is Good, and Good wants to create more Good in the universe. But in order to make Good, God had to give us Free Will, because there is no Good that is not chosen. Goodness is an action. Just not being Evil is not enough to become like God. Of the three descriptors, I think "therapeutic" is the least apt descriptor for me. I suppose I'm just a moralistic deist. God COULD help you directly, but a teacher helping you on a test defeats the point of the test. So He helps us indirectly, by teaching us what is virtuous and what is sinful, and always pushing us in the right direction. I do, however, agree with you that the gnostics take this waaaaaaay too far. The goal of life here on Earth is to become more like God, but the way to do that is by making the world a more Godly place, not by escaping it. We CHOSE to come here, to become more like God, so why would the goal be to escape it? That'd be like leaving your house, just so you could enter it, so you could be in your house. This world is not inherently evil, any more than any other creation of God is. WE naturally create our own spiritual tests by virtue of being imperfect beings. Temptation is not created by God, but by humans. He gave us the tools we need to avoid it, but ultimately it is up to us to employ them. Most humans do not, so the world is (currently) a very sinful place, but it needn't (and, more importantly, SHOULDN'T) be. I think that this is the other part of the answer to the doubt you had as a kid about whether God was good or evil (at least, from this probable-heretic's perspective, as you seem to come to the conclusion God is Good all on your own). I don't think we exactly NEED to go to a church, but a good church can be one of the best tools to living a virtuous life. I COULD walk from NYC to LA, but I SHOULD take a plane. We don't NEED to do ANYTHING, except for ultimately accepting the spiritual and worldly consequences for our thoughts and deeds. But there's absolutely stuff we should do, whether because it's the right thing to do or just because it's a good idea. Justification is POSSIBLE without a good church, but it becomes much more likely with it. I define good in much the same way the founding fathers did. The founding fathers were pretty decent by the standards of their times, but they were nowhere near perfect, or even really living up to their own ideals. Many clearly knew that slavery was wrong, but owned slaves anyway for the economic benefit. A truly good person would reject the evil of slavery, even if it meant being less wealthy. Much like the founding fathers themselves, I believe the vast majority of humans today fall far, far short of these incredibly lofty ideals. Some of them might even be impossible for imperfect humans in an imperfect world to actually achieve, but that that fact is absolutely no reason to not try as hard as possible to achieve them anyway. At least as far as that is concerned, I totally agree with Jesus. Be perfect, as your Heavenly Father is perfect. We are the children of God, and if we are His children, then we must be capable of becoming like Him. We might only be capable of this once we enter Heaven and are justified and sanctified by His Grace, but we must be capable of it in some way. I do think pretty much every real religion gets SOME things right about God. But not every religion, or even every sect of a single religion, gets an equal amount right. I think I think even you could agree with this, even if it's only because there are some instances where other religions agree with Christianity on a given topic. Even within Christianity, you'd say Catholics are correct about the Trinity, even if they're wrong about transubstantiation. I CLEARLY disagree with you on A LOT, but I do think there's some stuff we could see eye to eye on (even if you think I ultimately am preaching a false religion). Heck, I agreed with pretty much all of your 95 theses on reforming the PCUSA. We're all working to discover the same spiritual truths, but while some people discover heliocentrism, others "discover" geocentrism. But just because a false religion discovers heliocentrism doesn't mean they're right about everything. It means they're right about heliocentrism. We agree that the church needs to teach about sin and salvation, and that it is ultimately no one's fault but their own that they sinned, and that we're the problem with the world. I like your analogy of the doctor to explain how much religious knowledge every individual needs. Anyway, feel free to tell me all the different heresies I'm spouting in your Christian minecraft server.

They think "God is love", "love is love", "I should do whatever I enjoy".

Literally just studied this same thing at college lol. It really is evident in America. Great video as always!

I just read about this in the Lutheran witness, and I think this is a real problem in this generation.

"What is wrong with the world? I am" is from Chesterton

Isn't deism like the most basic freemason belief about the great architect?

@Pandemomium4Life

9 ай бұрын

Nah they HATE God but they don’t lie to themselves like that. The goal was to subvert the public into subconsciously adopting deism.

@DonPedroman

9 ай бұрын

More or less

when i heard rc sprouls name it made me happy

If I hear “moralistic therapeutic deism” one more time I’ll die

Thanks for this video. I have recently rediscovered Christ, but I have been of the mind that the one true God of Christianity was the same one true God of Islam, Brahman of Hinduism, etc. I thought all these religions were just different perspectives of God. I’m glad you brought this to my attention so I can dive deeper into Christ’s teachings.

Can you make a video about the Apocrypha? As a Protestant I am confused on whether to read it or not. There are also some other texts like the apparent ‘Gospel of Thomas.’ Should I read them?! ❤️‍🔥✝️

@MarcelBal15

9 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure the OT apocrypha is worth reading even if it's not on the level as Sacred Scripture

@ForGondor-cv4jf

9 ай бұрын

​@@MarcelBal15depends on the Church you are in. For instance, I, as a Catholic believe the Apocrapha is inspired. The orthodox deem more books then the Catholic Church in the apocrypha as inspired. Most Protestants have the stance of not inspired but good to read. Overall, it just depends on your denomination. God bless you!

@jackdaw6359

9 ай бұрын

The Gospel of Thomas is a gnostic work. Take that into account. Not Catholic or Orthodox. Has some major problems.

@ForGondor-cv4jf

9 ай бұрын

@@jackdaw6359 that's true. I should expand upon what I commented. Certain books are written to reflect the gnostic heresy, so avoid those that no church prescribes to. For instance, avoid the gospel of Judas. If it is deemed inspired by one of the major churches, I don't see harm in reading it

@jackdaw6359

9 ай бұрын

@@ForGondor-cv4jf since I am Catholic so I would agree. And even reading other works taking what they are into account would not necessarily be harmful. I have read many books in the Ethiopian Orthodox canon for example and church father writings. Practice caution the closer the works come to heresy so as not to be swept up in certain ideas. But if you are well grounded in your faith it would not be an issue. Check out the book of Wisdom. Chapter 2 has a prophecy about Jesus. The priest at one of my parishes i attended liked to show the Dutch Reformed pastors the books that weren't in their Bible. Didn't lead to any conflict.

Your new pastor reminds me of a pastor at the ELCA church I attend

This is good. Props

Hey I just joined your server. Super cool

zoomer, you inspired me to read my bible more thank you

J. Gresham Machen is a favorite of mine as well. Many more should be aware of his book Christianity and Liberalism.

Hello Redeemed Zoomer, could you do a video on how to conduct a proper christian funeral? Appreciate your work.

Great work Zoomer, I would like you to explain noahidism.

As a fairly unorthodox Babtist who likes to over intellectualize things and be given more theology and doctrine, I can confirm that things do need to change a little in the Babtist church but I think the number 1 thing is we need to encourage more leadership in the church in youth and young adults. And number 2 is we need to make sure the people who are taking over know they're bible. Its nice to be able to get your nerdy reformed perspective on different issues lol. Just remember to Glorify God through not only your brain but also the faith that comes from the brain. I'm sure your familiar with the common stereo type of reformed christians getting so wrapped up in the intellectual side of christianity that you lose focus.

As an atheist and former anti thiest who's gradually coming around to religion being a moral good I'm really enjoying listening to your opinions on Christianity. What would you reccomend reading from Christian philosophy/theology for someone considering trying to find faith? Or is this a case of act as a christian good in the hopes of one day having a realisation?

@Rocky-ur9mn

9 ай бұрын

Mere Christianity CS Lewis and orthodoxy by G K Chesterton

@Mr-Onesimus

9 ай бұрын

CS Lewis is a great place to start. His writings helped me greatly in my reversion to Christianity

@redeemedzoomer6053

9 ай бұрын

Read Tim Keller’s reason for God!

@shanezarcone5401

9 ай бұрын

For an atheist I think A Case for Christ by Lee Strobel is a great book to start with.

Love reading the chat while you play lol

So good!

I guess I never realized how blessed I was as in my church (United Reformed I think its dutch reformed). Ever since we were kids we always had weekly Church catechism classes. I remember one of our church families (or closely related) put together 6 different catechism books (called Covenantal Catechism Book 1-6) and for 8 or so years (we would go over some several times) you would go thru those books as a kid and then after that do the Belgic Confession and finish with Hidelberg catechism then take profession of faith classes with the pastor then become a member of the church. As a kid I kinda thought that was normal but now see that is not at all. Maybe bringing that into churches could help.

I disagree with the part where you said "everyone is a theologian'' I observe that protestants love to call themselves theologians whenever they do the tiniest piece of theology. Putting a bandage on yourself is not the same as being an emergency nurse. Im Orthodox and we only call the very best of the best (meaning the most scholarly clergy and saints also *some* laymen who are particularly educated) theologians. It has far more meaning for us than it does for protestants. Love most of the video though, your channel is pretty "good" 👍

My friend you are misinformed on the beliefs of the founding fathers. There was only two deists in the their number, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson. The rest were devout Christians of primarily Protestant churches within the colonies. The church and its attendance was almost ubiquitous across early American culture, it formed the bedrock of their education system (with children being primarily taught at home with material such as the Puritan’s Primer). Deism was by far the exception, even for the intellectual leaders of our early nation.

Revelation 3:16 So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. ✝️

Putting this in a seperate comment. I don't understand why people act as if Theology is difficult. Some of it is, but the basics are not, so long as we are believers (since the Holy Spirit helps us to understand). I am very happy that my pentecostal church preaches on and teaches theology, in an accessible way. If we are not teaching theology to the congregation, then we are treating them like spiritual babies. (To paraphrase Paul the Apostle)

In terms of the majority of the religion in America I will say that you are right., the Majority of Christians are cultural Christians and only believe this stuff because they were raised to believe it or the culture benefits them if they believe it. However, with the decline of Christianity/religion in America it will be interesting to see what new type of morality/ethics will spur people on. Maybe something along the line of Stoicism or some secular-progressive revision/incorporation of Christian ethics. As a person who studies religion and is looking deeply into the decline of religion in America it will be interesting to see what a truly post-Christian America will look like by the dawn of the 22nd century.

lmao these dutch people in the background chat

Zoomer , where I live there, are multiple Pentecostal churches. In a previous video you mentioned something about Pentecostals being the fastest growing religion, but in another that they were a heresy . I was wondering if you are ever going to do a video about them. Thank you

@redeemedzoomer6053

9 ай бұрын

I have a video called "why I'm not Pentecostal"

wow man I am impressed and happy that your channel is getting so much traffic, enjoy your videos, thanks wondering what you think about Ucrania war

Great video. That is why it's so important that Christians have modern cultural influence again and I think that the Reconquista is a good method for that. Most people who are opposed to it don't really understand history very well, because here in Germany or Western Europe in general the leftists got cultural hegemony in the 60's through the march in the institutions. It's one of the most tragic things to happen to Europe, but it proves that hijacking is 100% useful and often times used by enemies. I understand that people have different opinions of which denomination is right, but converting to Orthodoxy for example to flee from wokeness won't do anything for a collevtive spiritual change in your Country. It's just isolation (which is understandable, but useless for society as a whole)

I think developed countries in general are moving towards either atheism or a vague deist concept of God because when you're provided for and sheltered and there is stability, people will be less likely to turn to organized religion to fulfill themselves. Now imagine living in an unstable region where nothing is certain and life's necessities are fickle. You'll be much more likely to turn to organized religion for comfort, fulfillment, guidance, etc. It makes sense when you see all the parts of the Bible talking about enduring trials and suffering. Desperation, scarcity, and fear beget things like nationalism and tribalism. Religion has been used to both of those ends. As an atheist my biggest gripe is that with organized religion, I'm supposed to take man's word (churches, councils, creeds) for what God is and what God wants me to do. I've prayed to no avail so far but I'm certainly open to knowing a God if he does in fact exist and interact with humans.

Hey Redeemed Zoomer! How are you doing, brother?

Should Christians exercise and strive to have a beutifiul and healthy body? What does the Bible say about that? Great video btw

I agree that MTD is the material principle in American Civic Religion.

Idk if all have equal access or lead to the same but having studied many I think they often glimpse the same things

Moralistic Therapeutic Deism sounds pretty good, obviously some people will incorporate that into their specific religious denomination but I'm of the opinion that's Superior. Human love should transcend hatred, all people deserve salvation Universal salvation 🙏💜 Maybe not initially maybe it takes a long time but all people should be loved and saved. The human heart will overcome your hatred and wash it away as if a flood~ By the grace of God humanity will be one 🙏💜

@evan7391

9 ай бұрын

No, all people deserve to go to hell, only through Christ's sacrifice can we be saved. Your heart means well though, God bless 🙏

@TheEverFreeKing

9 ай бұрын

​@@evan7391All people deserve to be saved through Universal salvation. Not one can be condemned to hell forever, for that is the greatest evil and the greatest sin anyone could commit. For every knee will bow and every tongue shall confess Christ as Lord.

@chibu3212

9 ай бұрын

The main pushback I have regarding Universal Salvation besides the fact that it isn’t biblical is essentially it gives the impression that we as humans in every century and age can live however we choose and nothing really matters. Also if all world religions and gnostic beliefs and spiritual practices are true then none are.

@chibu3212

9 ай бұрын

Also since it isn’t really grounded in any scriptures or doctrine , who’s to say everyone even wants to be saved, or wants to bow to Christ, or the length of time it will take some versus others. Or also if people will still be the same (good and evil) in the afterlife. I do see you mean well however.

@TheEverFreeKing

9 ай бұрын

​@@chibu3212it's not free license to do whatever you want we still matter in this life. It's the recognition of the universal Human condition and how in the end we all deserve salvation. It's out of gratitude not out of obligation that we should be good people, it's about fostering that Goodwill rather than behaving out of fear of hellfire eternal. Multiple religions can be true at the same time, there may be some ideas that have been distorted over time because of human imperfection but you can synchronize many different world religions together. That is not however claiming that they are all equally good but it is showing a recognition for the Divine and unexplainable found throughout the entire world. I would also recommend looking into the concept of closed spaces and how different realities might merge into one another. Universalism has existed since the first century it is the true expression of Christianity, have you read any of the literature on it making a case from the Bible?

literally just learned about MTD in worldview class

Hey zoomer, Im a recent Christian and i am hoping you could make a video on general important Christian beliefs and what to/how to do it? Stuff on basic ideologies, How chuech works, activities to het closer to God, etc. Would this be possible?

@em.the.awful.waffle

9 ай бұрын

Read the Bible, one of the plain versions like ESV or NIV. You can start with the gospels, Genesis, or Romans. Pray every morning and/or every evening, join a Bible study, listen to hymns, watch more of RZ's vids. Those are just a few ideas. God bless you on your journey ✝️🤍

You made a video on E.orthodox plz do Oreiental orthodox

12:40 not a Catholic myself but I went to a Catholic school that did a religion class and it more like about vague anthropology about religion rather than actual teaching of religion.

Amen😊

What music do you use in the background it sounds very angelic. 1:47

You missed Spain in your ''Find a historic Protestant church:'' link

720p? May the lord give you enough bandwith to use full hd, it's 2023 my brother in christ. Love you :)

I'm trying to figure out if this at all what someone like Andrew huberman would believe He stated his beliefs a while back, in your opinion does this define it?

i went to a CoE primary and a catholic secondary i wish they went more into this we read from the bible but nothing about this and in secondary in RS we didn't go over this either

Would you mind doing a video on the topic of infant baptism? I grew up in baptist churches so I was taught not to do that, and I’m wondering why some churches do?

@redeemedzoomer6053

9 ай бұрын

It's coming, I made a video on why infant baptism is biblical, and it will be released in a few months (I make them way in advance)