When Finn says things like 'who's out there saying ACDC/RHCP are amazing', I feel like these are the thoughts of someone who's part of a pretty small niche and doesn't realize it.

@derwilhelmovic1617

2 жыл бұрын

I like Finn's content, but I hate it every time he talks about topics like these from a personal point of view bc most of what he says is just straight bs and he treats his bs and opinions like they're facts it's really off putting

@MA-go7ee

2 жыл бұрын

@@derwilhelmovic1617 What's odd is in his old videos he used to make a lot of effort not be dismissive

@bastiaan4129

2 жыл бұрын

I just thought it was because he's not European. People still go completely apeshit for RHCP here and most of the modern fanboys will say that garbage like Stadium Arcadium is actually their best work.

@Caffeine_Club

2 жыл бұрын

Man, I'm going to straight up admit I still listen to pre-'92 AC/DC and pre-2004 RHCP..... they may have overstayed their welcome after those periods, but their work before that is legit, and if you don't get it, too bad for you.

@PasleyAviationPhotography

2 жыл бұрын

@@Caffeine_Club millions of people still do, too bad Finn doesn't realize that

It's funny how spot on you are about the Tool and Radiohead fanbases while simultaneously being dead wrong about both bands themselves.

@phaidros7069

Жыл бұрын

Facts. This guy doesn't really know much about music or the bands he's talking about

@weelchairdrivby2951

Жыл бұрын

@@phaidros7069 butthurt

@phaidros7069

Жыл бұрын

@@weelchairdrivby2951 Nah not really. He just simply has different tastes than I do. And that's totally okay. But of course that will bias my opinion, but we all have biases.

@andrepereira744

Жыл бұрын

@@phaidros7069 I feel the same. The few times I stoped here I always felt this dude just wants to create drama with his opinions.

@phaidros7069

Жыл бұрын

@@andrepereira744 Facts

AC/DC are massive EVERYWHERE. They fill FOOTBALL STADIUMS when they tour. Back in Black is the greatest selling hard rock album of all time. What planet does Finn live on? I'm genuinely surprised he doesn't appreciate any Bon era stuff, as that material is pretty punk in comparison to what followed.

@UnvisibleINK

Жыл бұрын

Agreed on every point, except that even the Bon era stuff has the most boring drumming ever put down on tape.

@bobdouglass8010

Жыл бұрын

@@UnvisibleINK Yes! I thought I was the only one who noticed that

@BoynamedMagnus183

Жыл бұрын

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@BoynamedMagnus183

Жыл бұрын

ACDC IS THE MOST UPHYPED BAND IN THE WORLD HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY`RE JUST ANOTHER THE ROLLING STONES RIPOFF!!!!!!!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNDDDDS DOOOOOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@fletchkeilman2205

Жыл бұрын

I agree on almost every point here.

The fact he basically said Imagine Dragons is better than Tool. I’m not even a huge Tool fan but that’s just insane.

@bayerhead

Жыл бұрын

Your comment made me decide not to watch the video

@timgraf6320

Жыл бұрын

He definitely didn't say Imagine Dragons was better than Tool.

@BoynamedMagnus183

Жыл бұрын

Imagine Dragons along with artists and Bands like Taylor Swift,Olivia Rodrigo,Harry Styles,The Arctic Monkeys,The Kooks and Paramore literally saved Rock from dying!

@crankywombat2598

Жыл бұрын

@@BoynamedMagnus183 that means that those bands were the most popular at the right time. But your statement isn't winning the argument about one band being better than the other.. just saying

@WaveMurray

Жыл бұрын

@@BoynamedMagnus183 those are all essentially Pop, not rock music.

I think most Tool fans are just normal people who enjoy their sound. It’s a vocal minority that are off-putting and even that is overblown. I think the meme of the Tool fan has overhyped the degree to which the fandom is actually annoying. In a sense, I think what’s actually overrated about Tool is the stereotype of their fandom. They are an objectively great band by just about any metric you can measure these things with.

@midnitespecialist4872

2 жыл бұрын

I never understood TOOL until i started listening to them while Tripping. Instantly turned into my favorite band of all time. They don’t just make songs, they make an experience.

@AlligatorArms

2 жыл бұрын

Tool is completely one of a kind it both its music and its imagery. I realize that’s exactly the type of statement that gets made fun of when ppl dunk on Tool fans, but to me it’s a true statement. I get that they aren’t for everyone, but when someone wants to act like they fail to see how this isn’t appealing at all, I want to say it strikes me as more pretentious than tool fans themselves. Then again, there are countless aspects of popular culture that I am completely oblivious to its appeal, such as musicals, graphic novels, disco music, or anything that’s ever aired on the TLC channel, while it’s probably obvious to people who enjoy that stuff. So I may not be the most qualified arbiter of ‘appeal’. I just like the band, that’s all.

@amvnumber1018

2 жыл бұрын

or maybe they're just overrated af

@ConwayFitty

2 жыл бұрын

As a fan I like watching peoples reactions to hearing Tool for the first time, if they don't like it that's fine, I can respect someone who's given it a chance first, it's people with preconceived notions that piss me off

@CaH6633

2 жыл бұрын

I see more people bitching about Tool fans than I do...actual Tool fans....reminds me of the Rick and Morty thing tbh....we get one little incident of cringey ass Rick and Morty fans and now all of a sudden if you're even seen even so much as watching this stupid fucking cartoon you're automatically some weird shut in who must be cyber bullied immediately. Tool fans who I've actually met...generally....are just people who listen to Tool. That's it.

For someone who talks so much about bands earning a living, Finn sure fucking hates any kind of progressive music being popular.

@erickghoul174

2 жыл бұрын

It’s almost like he hates it because it’s not supposed to happen

@adlerdefender8067

2 жыл бұрын

True, Opeth, Gojira, Dream Theater, Meshuggah, Mastodon are good fucking examples on how wrong his opinion is..

@DarthRevan823

2 жыл бұрын

@@adlerdefender8067 especially mastodon

@jasonnielsen5976

2 жыл бұрын

It's amusing watching a contrarian calling out a contrarian

@RafitoOoO

2 жыл бұрын

no progressive music is popular lmao

Deftones are easily one of the most consistent 90s bands and one of a small handful who are still actually putting out great records. If anything they are underrated they have such an original sound that so many people have tried emulating.

@johnnyb6067

Жыл бұрын

Music is subjective. I can’t make it through a single Deftones song.

@mookie1314

Жыл бұрын

100% agree with this! I definitely feel like they are underrated. I love their music & can't really understand why more people aren't as excited to hear their music.

@beefpoopsock

Жыл бұрын

agreed, deftones is one of THE best bands out there, even after multiple albums I can still enjoy listening to the most recent ones.

@ryanjohnson7563

Жыл бұрын

you're absolutely right.

@iSmellBreakfast

Жыл бұрын

Defines are the pinnacle of inconsistency; not one of their albums is good all the way through. They’re the only band I can think of that will make one of the best songs you’ve ever heard, and the next song on their album will be putrid and unlistenable

In the US, I think AC/DC are rated exactly right. They are thought of as a fun band, with a bunch of good songs that may sound the same, but are good for head-banging and learning the riffs on guitar. Nobody I’ve ever heard thinks they are a transcendent influence on music- just that they are a cool starter band for people getting into rock or cool for party music. 😎

@stevennorris7181

Жыл бұрын

funny how none of the bands he likes, of which plenty could be on here, werent featured, tastemaker...

@katanagrrl

Жыл бұрын

They are Melbourne pub music. They’re a group of normal blokes who made fucking awesome music. I think it’s hard to grasp if you aren’t Australian what makes this group SO special.

@MW-dd8vk

7 ай бұрын

The only people who overrate AC/DC are their fanbase who say they’re the best band ever in comment sections. Other than that what you said about them is the truth.

@intuitivehomebrew3199

7 ай бұрын

Astute observation. If you want to party with your mates, smoke in one hand and a pint in the other - ACDC is perfect for that.

Love tool and if people dont get it thats fine. i can hear the differences between the albums and depending on mood is how i choose which album to listen to. 10,000 days for example helped me in a transitional period in my life where opiate was just chill music for me

@blankearth5840

2 жыл бұрын

Me too I can definitely hear the differences between the albums

@eamonnsweeney5744

2 жыл бұрын

Major differences in the albums! There is more to pick on tool about but having the same album was a bad call.

@benjaminkline2529

2 жыл бұрын

No tool album is the same. None are as good as lateralus but tool hasn’t made a bad album.

@whateveryousaygroomer131

2 жыл бұрын

Tool deserves all the hype they get because they get 1/10th the hype of half the garbage rappers and country artists out there and produce something that is 1000 times the quality. And in all seriousness, I'm not some tool purest fan boy, I have gone years without listening to them.

@MelGibsonFan

2 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t construct a more “tool” fan response if I tried. I’m not even saying this in a bad way, I just always associated Tool with people who were more in touch with their emotional side. Glad it helped you out though, they’ve got some great music.

TOOL is a great band, but the problem is they are the exactly the most accessible inaccessible band. They are jussssst normal enough to have radio singles, but weird enough to be the most advanced thing that anyone who doesn't dig into rock music beyond the radio is ever going to hear. There legitimately isn't another band that does their sound better, and their first 3 albums were all significantly different and uniquely interesting (the latest I agree sounds like total retread). EDIT: I typed all this before getting to the Olive Garden bit lol I got into them alongside Coheed and Cambria, which has a very similar fandom, and The Mars Volta, which I guess narrowly avoided this by not actually staying on the radio very long. I quickly learned that all of these bands cited King Crimson as an influence and immediately realized the depths of the genre upon investigating them.

@mike04574

2 жыл бұрын

even i thought schism was kind of weird to get on the radio

@PacRimElectric

2 жыл бұрын

Ah someone mentioned Mars Volta.

@tommymclaughlin-artist

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a Mars Volta fan and I always thought Coheed and Cambria was extremely corny and cringe. They always come up in the same conversation though. I guess there are a few very superficial similarities but in my mind these bands aren't even playing the same game.

@afroheadwes

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree with this

@biggiesmartypants

2 жыл бұрын

I want to mention these reaction videos from this composer guy 'Key of Geebz'. He made me re-appreciate Tool. Imo they're both simple and complex, as well as sonically great.

If you're a Nirvana fan, you know they could never be overrated!! Same goes with the Beatles!

It's impossible to understand the impact of the Beatles today because there already was the Beatles. The only way to really measure their impact and talent is to wonder how things would have been if they never existed. That's why it's so hard to fully appreciate innovators well after their heyday. Would I put on a Beatles album today? Probably not. But if it were the 1960s and the thousands of bands they influenced had not made music yet, i'm sure i'd be a huge fan. I always make this argument abut Jimi Hendrix. Today there are plenty of guitarist who can sound like him. But listen to rock guitar before him and you will hear a lot of rhythmic strumming of chords along with the drummer and vocals and not as much composition on its own.

@mr.onethirtyeight5088

Жыл бұрын

I think we pretty much would've gotten here (as in their influence) via another English band one way or another. A lot was happening at that time there in the music scene and someone else would've blew up globally eventually.

@Mirokuofnite

Жыл бұрын

Just as people say Hendrix is the greatest guitarist of all time. I don't think so, he was the greatest of his time. But given how progressive guitar playing is the greatest guitar player is one who is alive right now. Guitar playing is like skateboarding. Eventually someone comes along does what was thought to be impossible or never even thought of. Once this happens people figure out how to do it and it starts to become a coming thing. Granted there are a few things only a select few can do. Buy once that door is open people start to enter.

@brucewahler6789

Жыл бұрын

@@mr.onethirtyeight5088 It's an interesting what-if, for sure. I was thinking about possible alternatives. We need a band that 1) is inventive, 2) changes direction over time, and 3) started out mainstream enough to get teen listeners on board. Lots of '60s UK bands were #1; and bands like the Who or Yardbirds were #2 as well; but #3 requires baby steps, as well as tacit approval from parents. The music scene was pretty vanilla in '63 -- heartthrob vocalists, surfer songs, and folk trios. I'm not sure either band would have passed the US 'dad test,' allowing them to get famous enough to then reinvent themselves without mainstream OK. So, if mom+dad won't let you play most UK bands, that leaves what -- the Beach Boys? They were the only band that was anywhere near that big at the time. And not the 'Pet Sounds' group: Brian Wilson might have just kept making surf music without the competition of the Lennon-McCartney catalog.

@tracyanderson3715

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I’m an 80s kid and was a huge Duran Duran fan and I remember press asking new Fab Five? And at first being an 80s kid didn’t know what the original was. But I’m sure if I was a 50s kid just like my Duran Duran love like first three albums I would’ve been just as enthralled with the Beatles 🎉🎉🎉

@nathanbraun2067

Жыл бұрын

people don't deny the beatles influence. You could even say thats a big reason why people hate them

Deftones is the only band I can listen to over and over and over and never get tired of

@raistlin906

2 жыл бұрын

Cool band.

@peepodhumperdink4456

2 жыл бұрын

Its because theyre fucking great

@raistlin906

2 жыл бұрын

@@peepodhumperdink4456 Do you know about Hamlet? It's a Spanish band with a lot of Deftones influence.

@duke_rabbit

2 жыл бұрын

Me with TOOL

@silverentei

2 жыл бұрын

Same here, every album is a masterpiece with its own unique sound

Most of the 80s Metal (Thrash, Death etc.) has so much more character in it in comparison to todays Metal, where most of it, not all of it, but most of sounds so polished and clean and predicitable with Clicktracks, Metronoms and everything perfect. Like out of a factory.

@jackko21

2 жыл бұрын

I 100% agree with you I miss raw metal

@flexame

2 жыл бұрын

Technology tends to move forward. You can still get a raw but clean sound so many bands are doing it these days. The 80s metal bands dont compare in quality to alot of modern (raw sounding) metal without the loss of character.

@Skycladatdusk78

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, 80s and early 90s metal will always be the best.

@wingnutmcspazatron3957

2 жыл бұрын

You get it. 100%.

@adnsaurus

2 жыл бұрын

@@flexame better technology does not necessarily equal better music, specially if the style is driven by raw human emotions.

Normally, I love Finn's takes so much on most things. Mostly due to being able to see why people might like a certain thing, even though he himself might not, and denounce gatekeepers and elitism at every turn. With all that in mind, that AC/DC analysis was really the antithesis of this. He's human though so these things happen

@stevennorris7181

Жыл бұрын

funny how none of the bands he likes, of which plenty could be on here, werent featured, tastemaker...

@starozi6264

Жыл бұрын

There are times where Finn hits the mark and other times where his bias leaks through...which i can understand. There are some musicians that one not only cant connect with but also dislikes then trying to be objective about them is a process on its own. He doesnt strike me as a yes man or people pleaser so its probably a challenge to give every musician reverence from the same place

@tomy8339

Жыл бұрын

No one regards AC/DC as a great band. No one pretends they are musically proficient, have great technical proficiency, have a wide repertoire of musical styles, have meaningful, deep lyrics etc. They are a good, hard rocking band with every album following the same formula. I like a stack of their songs. But they are not a great band in the technical, musical proficiency sense.

@WillowGreenheart

Жыл бұрын

He turned me off some time ago when he called Folk Metal gimmick music + most stories about bands and music are from a pure US perspective.

@cosmonauthal7651

Жыл бұрын

@@tomy8339 and who said any band has to be?

Man... With a band like Tool, it helps to recognize their strengths, and realize that THEY recognize their strengths and stay in their lane, so to speak. They're all about rhythm. I think Beato pointed this out for me, they're really pretty minimalistic when it comes to harmonic content, and that lets the rhythmic and percussive elements define their sound. It's like the notes are just there to embellish the rhythm. And who else hits the "psychedelic metal" nail on the head better than Tool does with this formula? Long-form, complex rhythmic masterpieces with what is essentially a glorified drone over it makes for some of the most hypnotic and surprisingly listenable metal music you'll ever find. And if you're expecting them to be something else, then yeah, you're missing it. It's not right to say that something is overrated or otherwise not good just because it's not something else that you like. That's like saying, "potatoes are overrated because they don't taste like carrots. Everything is supposed to taste like carrots, dammit!" You can't really rate something without having a sufficient appreciation for what it is in the first place.

@MazaroAnonymous

Жыл бұрын

I really don't buy this because they never felt minimal or overly restrained in their heydey on albums like "Aenima" or "Undertow". They feel minimal and redundant now with stuff like "Fear Inoculum" because it's actually a tired rehash. So your mind has to do some gymnastics to find value in it.

@stevenking4617

Жыл бұрын

@@MazaroAnonymous maybe yours does. That's probably anchor bias talking, you prefer the albums that introduced you to the band. I got into Tool with some of their later stuff, without knowing their older stuff. The first two albums were obnoxious, I thought. Maybe I'll think differently later. But I definitely never needed to do gymnastics to find value in FI. I think the sound is rich and the writing is really innovative. I could do without some of the digitized instrumental stuff, but I'll take the good with the bad. If I want perfect music I'll make it myself.

@justingurley836

Жыл бұрын

@@stevenking4617 ænima was my first and favourite album and I don’t find that it was obnoxious. I just thought that it was some super catchy rock music that still resonates with me. But to each their own, as you pointed out.

@stevenking4617

Жыл бұрын

@@justingurley836 ha, if I spent more time with the older albums, I'm sure they would grow on me.

@voxextremos22

10 ай бұрын

To me tool Is Maynard and Danny you don't have a band without them. Also I don't like tool because of how pretentious they come off. I like prog bands like Periphery because they have a sense of humor. Older prog bands like Rush had a sense of humor too. Tool is humorless and smug kKinda like Maynard's personality

I feel like there was confusion between overrated versus overplayed. A lot of these bands are just overplayed.

@raistlin906

2 жыл бұрын

And I would say that only SOME of their songs are overplayed. Smells like teen spirit or Highway to hell.

@TheAudraReins

2 жыл бұрын

@@raistlin906 exactly. Especially in Texas.

@raistlin906

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheAudraReins In Texas, in Spain and everywhere.

@user-bz9sj8mh5d

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Is Nirvana overplayed? Hell yes. Are they overrated? Fuck no.

@Fiverr7890

2 жыл бұрын

I think everyone but Deftones on this list are super overrated. Save for nirvana whos just a bit overrated. Acdc, imagine dragons are absolute garbage.

Lost me on the Tool opinion. Maybe some fans take it to far, but from a musician stand point, they are very important. They’re a good introduction into technical/progressive music.

@Blinkptx

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not even s big tool fan, but I do appreciate their stuff. Especially live. My wife loves them so we've gone a few times. Great shows!

@snap403

2 жыл бұрын

I’m not a musician but the drums are killer and I like their music. It’s different then most stuff.

@Bobthebuilderchest

2 жыл бұрын

yeah and live they are amazing

@xtraflo

2 жыл бұрын

Well, he is a Blink 182 fan sooo...Doesn't surprise me that Tool escapes him..

@aegisreflector1239

2 жыл бұрын

Still tool are overrated AF. Anyone and everyone who remotely likes rock and mainstream metal can't stfu about them for a second. They claim they are the be all end all of musicianship. Gtfo. I like some tool too but they're overrated AF

Saw tool live few months ago, they were fucking amazing. I'm not their biggest fan or whatever, but I cannot deny their technical prowess and songwriting capabilities. As well as awesome live shows.

@stevennorris7181

Жыл бұрын

funny how none of the bands he likes, of which plenty could be on here, werent featured, tastemaker...

@inoshikachokonoyarobakayar2493

Жыл бұрын

@@stevennorris7181 good point

ACDC got me into rock music. It's also the heaviest music most people will listen to

@t.kahraba763

Жыл бұрын

Hells bells is a fucking nuclear explosion of a track

@stevennorris7181

Жыл бұрын

funny how none of the bands he likes, of which plenty could be on here, werent featured, tastemaker...

@cccCCCccc123ccc

Жыл бұрын

My grandpa is 82 and he is always walking around and randomly saying “Dirty deeds…..done dirt cheap!”

I feel like the "hidden meaning" crowd of Tool got a lot quieter since Maynard calling them insufferable retards became such a known thing, got 'em good. Needless to say I'll never shut up about Tool because they're incredible musicians and artists to me.

@superchargedhelium956

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I love them, but a lot of fans are over the top, and Maynard is kind of a giant douche.

@ryan.gemini8095

2 жыл бұрын

Did he really say that that's hilarious, because the stuff that they think is hidden meanings is simple s*** that you can find in books

@eatassonthefirstdate

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, he isn't wrong about most tool fans.

@aldeayeah

Жыл бұрын

Dunno if it's an urban legend, but I think they once said that they chose the band name so that their fans would walk around with a T-shirt reading "TOOL" in big letters.

@sylviaowega3839

20 күн бұрын

Radiohead I would say, is NOT overrated. I thought they were an innovative indie band whom I greatly loved.

It was strange that you evaluated Radiohead by one of their albums - they’ve evolved quite a lot imo and overall make great listenable complicated music. And I think this applies to Tool - if you leave all the cult nonsense aside they make great progressive metal (without copying anyone) that appeals to a wide audience which is rare for the genre

@donniedixon7412

2 жыл бұрын

But, that's not what the video is about.

@futilerecordings

2 жыл бұрын

One overlooked aspect of Radiohead and Tool is that neither of them have any sex appeal. It sounds silly, but it's actually a pretty big deal that they've made it so far based solely on their music. I'm definitely a fan of both bands, and the best concert I ever attended was Radiohead at Madison Square Garden circa 2004. Amazing show!

@terminaldeity

2 жыл бұрын

Tool find a way to get worse with each album, while somehow also being more pretentious

@MrTomservo85

2 жыл бұрын

I found the virgin

@ShannonHumphreys

2 жыл бұрын

@@futilerecordings If you think there weren’t Thom Yorke fan girls in the 90’s/2000’s, you are sorely mistaken.

I’ve seen tool live twice and it was insanely tight. I’m not really a huge fan, but to call them mid while also calling them “phenomenal musicians” is pretty stupid. Their extremely spiritual fan base is what inclines people to say they’re overrated. I totally understand that because it turned me away from them as well. But I know/know of far too many musicians who aspire to be as good as them to say they’re mid. What those dudes are able to pull off live every show is no joke.

I love The Beatles, they were the stepping stone into the wonderful world of music and all it's types. Dad is a huge fan, particularly of Lennon, and as a child I heard a lot of their stuff... From the 70s when I was born

I like how you pointed out Kid A was when Radiohead stopped making guitar-driven music and then played the one song on the album that's the most straightforward rock song.

@mikecarnarius6074

2 жыл бұрын

Lol thought the same thing!

@stravvman

2 жыл бұрын

Also Twist and Shout (cover song) as an example of The Beatles songcraft.

@blanconino3562

2 жыл бұрын

I like how a guy that listens to children’s music like mall punk calls Radiohead the Olive Garden of music.

@lucaloureiro9428

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha so true

@JulianEmdon

2 жыл бұрын

It's the best song though. Objectively.

Imagine Dragons are more overplayed than over rated. I feel that’s why they get the hate they do. They release a song and it’s in every store and commercial and event promo.

@archiemisc

2 жыл бұрын

I would also put RHCP and Pearl Jam as overplayed more than overrated too.

@MikeIzzle_

2 жыл бұрын

You’re right honestly. they’re not a bad band at all, pretty good honestly, but you just can’t go anywhere without hearing them and it gets old fast

@champ1114

2 жыл бұрын

No they just suck

@turdfergeson8641

2 жыл бұрын

@@MikeIzzle_ idk man, my biggest problem with their music is that even today I think they make a very 2012 sounding style of pop music, and to be honest that was a sound that had aged poorly even by 2015. I don't necessarily blame them for this as this was around the time they blew up and were (I would argue) at the peak of their relevance, but I feel like that means their huge songs back then were markers of the time, and most of what has come after that is stuck in the past trying to replicate what catapulted them to super star status. And that to me is what makes imagine dragons such a miserable listening experience. Even when it's a new song, it already sounds like the shit they play nonstop at Kohl's, Target, Chic Fil A, etc (and the insufferable Karen vibes those places usually have). A lot of groups and artists that blew up in that era also have the problem of still sounding like nothing has changed since the early 2010s, but none have gotten the prolonged and excessive plat imagine dragons gets. Sorry for going in I may be high rn

@spyderf16

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. Clear Channel in the early 2010s would overplay the shit out of them on every "adult alternative" station to the point where you'd recognize the first 3 or 4 notes and immediately viscerally reach to change the station to WDVE, NPR, ESPN, WAMO or some other station... any other station. Same deal with Fall Out Boy's "My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark". Every Clear Channel station and NHL team overplayed the hell out of them to the point where it was a visceral negative reaction when you'd hear the first few notes start playing.

I would say Ok Computer is the album that changed Radioheads style of music and it’s an amazing album!

@ChevisPreston

7 ай бұрын

Probably my favorite album front to back ever

people say that a lot of these bands are overrated just because they had an album that broke through and sold millions of copies. like people saying nirvana is overrated? that is so stupid. they basically started a new genre of music and buried hair metal for good. they deserve all the credit they get. nevermind was one of the best albums ever made. every song on there was good

Radiohead is not overated just because you feel one of their records are. All of these bands that you reviewed have a quality about them. They are popular and still being listened to for a reason. Each of these bands with the exception of the 80s rock bands, are unique. They have a sound that is very distinct. I would say the bands that copied other bands style are overated.

@943awsomeness

Жыл бұрын

How I felt about him saying it’s overrated. He didn’t mention the bands other albums at all, and just hated on kid a calling it Olive Garden music. Like alright, you didn’t like that album (understandably, it’s not a very accessible album), but what about literally all their other albums? Rare L for the punk rock mba.

@taylorhaha69

Жыл бұрын

Awee the 80s were to hard and fast for yuhh. Ahaha

@adrienpreeldumas2712

Жыл бұрын

@@taylorhaha69 what are you even talking about lol

@mr.onethirtyeight5088

Жыл бұрын

Ugh, I like Radiohead a lot but they are overrated lol

@littlea420

Жыл бұрын

radiohead is asss

Quite a few of these bands are self-absorbed but not over rated. Most of them are also very influential and maybe people don't like them but do listen to a band that was heavily influenced by them.

@mistertagomago7974

2 жыл бұрын

Being influential doesnt mean not overrated.

Nirvana Unplugged was damn masterpiece! Don’t care what anyone says. Can listen to the entire album today and not skip a song. No way they’re overrated! Great video btw! Keep it up

@ChristopherStandardTime

Жыл бұрын

they're supremely overrated. once i got older than kurt, it just sounds like the nonsensical whining of a homeless junkie in seattle. bleh.

@regurgitatedapplez7388

Жыл бұрын

nirvana sucks the vocals are god awful mediocre guitar playing and the lyrical composition 💀

@prilljazzatlanta5070

Жыл бұрын

I think Nirvana unplugged is one of those rare cases like The Godfather where is praised and also properly rated.

@bryanbruner5327

Жыл бұрын

@@prilljazzatlanta5070 100% agree. I like Nirvana’s other albums but that Unplugged is just unreal how good it is.

@bryanbruner5327

Жыл бұрын

@@ChristopherStandardTime Even the “Unplugged” album? I can see why people don’t like they’re studio albums but that one was just amazing I thought. Give it another listen and report back.

Man, you really make me remember how great that song from Radiohead is. Now i'm going to work listening OPTIMISTIC the whole way

I’m a huge Tool fan, and I know there are people who think Tool is overrated, but guess what? That’s okay. It is well known that Maynard and the guys want fans to interpret music how they see fit. Take the grunge bands for example. Of the “big 4,” Nirvana. AIC, Pearl Jam, and Soundgarden, Nirvana was the most recognizable. But for me, I liked them the least of the 4. Don’t get me wrong, I like Nirvana, but for me, Soundgarden was my favorite from that era, mainly because of Chris Cornell’s incredible voice.

@orlandusbarrow8692

2 жыл бұрын

Same soundgarden we’re my favorite, Pearl Jam we’re too good for what they were trying to be.

@pittsburghlife32

2 жыл бұрын

Alice In Chains was my favorite man mostly because of laynes awesome voice and Jerry cantrells heavy riffs

@BroDude0

Жыл бұрын

I think you meant to say "I'm a huge Tool."

@clintevans1921

Жыл бұрын

@@BroDude0 word….

@johnnymerkin3363

Жыл бұрын

I would love to hear Ultramega OK remastered. Because the production on that album is shit. Great album great songs terrible production!

This video should be called “bands Finn doesn’t like but are totally worth your time”

@MysticPhonk-cp1rc

2 жыл бұрын

except imagine dragons, they are not worth anyones time at all, i will accept no arguments otherwise.

@viren_is_ok

2 жыл бұрын

Nailed it

@trevorrovert3103

2 жыл бұрын

@@MysticPhonk-cp1rc Tell that to their 54+ million monthly Spotify listeners.

@ibtunesoriginals2629

2 жыл бұрын

@@trevorrovert3103 bunch of normies on this planet lol

@MysticPhonk-cp1rc

2 жыл бұрын

@@trevorrovert3103 Im sorry I can't hear you over the deafening sound of not giving a fuck.

Number one for me will ALWAYS be Foo Fighters. They are the most watered down, mom and dad friendly, radio safe rock music out there. When I say watered down I literally mean their riffs sound purposefully watered down to not upset the moms when it gets played at the pee wee football halftime break right after the censored version of “lose yourself” by Eminem gets played for the 10000000th time at a youth sport game

@baddaysbasil5376

Жыл бұрын

Like, someone sprays the guitar with a water hose as they play??? I never knew that!! (just having fun)

@username4441

Жыл бұрын

give me another song with the aesthetic of everlong, if you cannot, then they are fine with me.

@tysonwastaken

Жыл бұрын

@@username4441 the first two albums + their metal album that came out this year are good other than that they arent good

@LeftCat

Жыл бұрын

I agree 100%. I've used your exact words when describing why I hate Foo Fighters to friends and people lose their minds!

@moonbot1683

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree 👍

Im honestly extremely surprised that Deftones are even mentioned on here, ive never heard anybody say they're overrated. Especially since they dont have nearly as high of a following as most of the bands on here.

Rock music is the only genre where we bitch "they've made the same album for decades." Then some turn around and still say "the sold out, they changed." 🤦

@CaH6633

2 жыл бұрын

Not true. Rap fans do that shit all the time I know because I am one.

You took the words out of my mouth when it came to The Beatles. I don't care at all about them and am not personally fan but every time I've heard a song I've always been pleasantly surprised. Dudes were a power house of songwriting and innovation.

@robwalsh9843

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, at the bare minimum they deserve respect in being innovators and how many future musicians they inspired.

@sentientcardboarddumpster7900

2 жыл бұрын

Yea they're great and I respect it but I never listen to them by choice. If it comes on somewhere I never hate it, they have a few that I enjoy like Helter Skelter, Come Together, and Within You, Without You

@thegoughandbordenfamily8234

2 жыл бұрын

You should try listening to more than the 2 songs you've listened to. They are the greatest band. By a million miles. End of story.

@Carlos-ms1yx

2 жыл бұрын

Beatles are phenomenal

@sentientcardboarddumpster7900

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegoughandbordenfamily8234 if you're talking to me, I've heard plenty of their songs. She's Heavy is another good one. I think Yes made better music in the late 60's/early 70's

I'm confused, why when talking about Radiohead, only Kid A is taken in to consideration? They have 8 other albums. This is supposed to be a video about overated bands (which I'd say Radiohead aren't), not overated albums.

Kiedis might not be a great singer, but he is definitely a charasmatic entertainer which is also something a band needs.

@Zancb

Жыл бұрын

I find him to be boring. He reeks of being a poser. His lyrics are often atrocious,

@billrupp8383

Жыл бұрын

I agree I truly feel he has the personality that comes naturally

Its weird, but I respect AC/DC and The Beatles for doing the opposite thing. The Beatles rapidly evolved their sound within a decade, whereas AC/DC found a sound they liked, found an audience for it, and stuck to it for many decades.

@67pearse

2 жыл бұрын

Also credit to Angus Young to have the same energy at his current age as he did 50-ish years ago lol

It's funny because Radiohead, TooL & Deftones are my 3 favourite bands.

@yawbyss981

2 жыл бұрын

And for good reason

@atvena

Жыл бұрын

That makes sense

Deftones first album (Adrenaline) is like nothing anyone has ever done. Even Deftones cudnt recreate it. It's one of the top 5 greatest albums. Wow! How anyone cud say they were overrated, I really don't understand that. 90s music was the best ever. Deftones was one of if not the first rock bands to have a high pitch melodic singer and high pitch guitar. Deftones is by far one of the greatest bands ever!!

@stevennorris7181

Жыл бұрын

funny how none of the bands he likes, of which plenty could be on here, werent featured, tastemaker...

@214brandonjs

Жыл бұрын

And they continue to put out great music. They’re one the rare bands that were amazing back in the day and are still amazing.

@MrOranj701

Жыл бұрын

Hate to break it to you, but Dio had high-pitched melodic vocals as early as 1983, also aren't high pitched solos on guitar like a very classic thing in metal?

If Radiohead had only released Kid A I'd might understand someone calling them underrated, but a band who released the bends, ok computer, in rainbows and a moon shaped pool overrated? Definitely not.

@Jaceno

2 жыл бұрын

*A Moon Shaped Pool

@Lucols4

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jaceno lol yes

@alexmonro1711

2 жыл бұрын

Pablo Honey is criminally underrated imho

@alexmonro1711

2 жыл бұрын

In fact Hail to the Thief is kinda underrated too

@sunny1992s

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexmonro1711 Yeah Hail To the Thief is sorta a middle child. Kid A is brilliant(remember the context of when the album came out, and the state of rock). After Hail to the Thief, In Rainbows came out.

Funny thing about Tool is that they, themselves, really don't seem to care about any of the stuff that their fans so rabidly fan over. I love the band for that reason among many. They just act like their entire discography is one giant shitpost, despite them knowing full well the love and care they put into their stuff. Love them or hate them, it's hard to ignore that they see the ridiculousness in it all, and they really only care about the music

I've always felt Nirvana was overrated but I had a lot of friends in high school that loved them. Not sure if they're overrated or I just got sick of hearing them/about them. (I am in no way saying they're bad)

What?! I just saw RHCP live and they absolutely destroyed the stage. Finn has praised Blink 182 and Good Charlotte but he thinks RHCP is outdated and irrelevant…fude, I enjoy your vids but you need to accept the fact you love poppy boy bands

@willamschultz2169

Жыл бұрын

Is RHCP not a poppy boy band?

@guy_incognito___5480

Жыл бұрын

@@willamschultz2169 Nah I wouldn't say so. RHCP lacks this "music and lyrics for teenagers" vibe. And while they play rather soft for a rock band they are more on the funk side than pop.

@atvena

2 ай бұрын

I love blink and RHCP so now what ?

With 80's metal in general while some has definitely aged poorly, it did have the impact on inspiring Power Metal as a genre which is still going strong. I listen to a lot besides 80's inspired metal, but I love a ton of it. I definitely agree that people who will only listen to literal 80's metal are pretty ridiculous though.

@benjaminwatt2436

2 жыл бұрын

Good point, also you could take all the praise and criticisms of 80s metal and apply them to Nirvana equally. both deserve credit but at the end of the day, your preference is all that stands

@robwalsh9843

2 жыл бұрын

Plus all of these genres have the same pattern. Whether it's NWOBHM, American hardcore punk, thrash, grunge, etc., you start off with a fresh wave of innovators who create the sound, then you have the groups that follow in their wake, and then you have the bland wannabes that overwhelm the scene as it begins to die down. When people hate on one genre, they may not be aware of its earlier days. Early hair metal was certainly better than late 80's/early 90's hair metal.

@lifelearner3067

2 жыл бұрын

The interesting thing about 80's metal is that it was the one time in history when metal conquered pop culture, and heavy metal could be described as bright, joyful, fun, sexy, and life-affirming. But after the Grundge wave knocked heavy metal off the main stage, it had a demoralizing effect on all music. Everything got darker, more neurotic. Rock music had to sound more bummed out. And after Cobain's suicide and Grunge trends fizzled out, lots of violent ghetto hip-hop filled the void. Metal fans in the 90's had to look to darker currents in the underground for inspiration: first Thrash - and then Death Metal, Black Metal, Doom Metal, etc. On the upside, we got some great extreme metal bands out of the darkening of the 90's. Lots of great death metal and black metal (and metalcore by extension). But hasn't it almost been played out? Why does metal have to keep sinking DOWN? These days, I'm too jaded to be impressed by most rock/metal bands still milking themes of "darkness." I grew up immersed in the post-grunge malaise, escaping into all the death metal, black metal, doom metal, metalcore, deathcore, and whatever I could find. But I wonder if it's grown stale for our generation. We've already heard darkness, depression, and anger done well enough through countless death and black metal acts. New albums trying too hard to sound evil or depressing just make me bored, and most of them are derivative. Lately, I've found it refreshing to look back on Glam Metal (the best of it, at least) as just another genre of extreme metal, misunderstood and unfairly dismissed. It's extreme in its unapologetic pride, confidence, glamor, audacity, and carefree, maximally euphoric 80's cool vibes approach. And it's amazingly subversive when compared to the monotonously dark, neurotic, depressing, and politically correct themes which have dominated modern rock/metal scenes ever since Cobain's self-loathing Grunge attitude influenced the entire music industry and set the tone of the future. The difference is...modern rap music may be volatile, but it doesn't doesn't often encourage weird levels of neuroticism or self-deprecation like in much depressive metal and alt-rock, so it's no surprise that prideful rap artists have become more attractive to newer generations who don't want to be bummed out all the time. Rock/metal has become the genre associated with downers, burnouts, stoners, djenty guitar nerds, and anti-social/self-hating whiny white dudes. After 30 years of this, is it possible to bring rock and metal out of the dark and add a bit of vibrancy and vitality to keep it alive? Metal shows in the 80's were bright, colorful events, packed full of fun-loving guys and beautiful women who danced and sang along to catchy anthems, excited by charasmatic lead singers and shredding guitarists. I did not see anything nearly as interesting at the last progressive deathcore show I attended. I'm not saying we should go back to Glam Metal or imitate it directly in any way, but it's very interesting to reconsider as an anidote to the current era's malaise. Maybe it could serve as some sort of inspiration to resist the trend of demoralization that began in the 90's mainstream?

@LosHitman

2 жыл бұрын

@@lifelearner3067 grunge killed rock

@natepoodle9132

2 жыл бұрын

Iron Maiden always deserves mention with regard to 80s rock, regardless of claims of sell-out. I do not think they ever did sell-out, but they became popular because their musical arrangements were exceptional skill-wise. Some might consider them too artsy as well lol... take "run to the hills"! It is like they give history lessons as well.

I still listen to a lot of 80s metal and I still think it's great music that stands the test of time. That being said, I listen to a lot of new metal as well. My musical tastes cross a variety of genres and decades...from the 30s & 40s until today, from jazz and big band to metal, punk, industrial and electronic. Good music is good music no matter when it was made or who made it.

@anthonyoram7614

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@JT-un7dc

2 жыл бұрын

👍

@adnsaurus

2 жыл бұрын

80s metal still rule!

@haileene703

2 жыл бұрын

Damn we should go get a drink somewhere 👍🏻 and discuss music. 100% with you. Now I would simply say one thing that makes a difference though. Music is music, but damn that 80's SOUND with all that reverb did not age well imo. YET it's ALSO a reason as to why I still listen to it from time to time and probably not a remaster of sorts if that went down the drain. We can all agree that sometimes we know something is not good, and yet we 💖 it. And honnestly, that sound thing is valid for all era of music (and also applies as of today) but that's also part of what makes those days part of history. (caps used as emphasis)

@CrimsonStainStudios

2 жыл бұрын

@@haileene703 Every era of music has it's signature sound for sure. Production techniques and the tech of the time as well as general trends in style are all reflected in an era's music. I find that all have their charm and don't undercut the value of the music or it's listenability. I mean...some of the old mono jazz recordings sound pretty bad by today's standards but the music, the emotion, the talent...it comes shining through.

Tool is one of the greatest bands of all time. No one sounds like them still.

@bucketsaremyfriend

Жыл бұрын

There's no one that sounds like them for a reason and I'm not sure you're willing to accept that reason lol

@bayerhead

Жыл бұрын

@@bucketsaremyfriend there are plenty of knock off's that have tried but don't sound very good. Earshot being one of them. It's easy to tell they influenced a lot of bands that came after them.

@beetleborg4171

Жыл бұрын

Far from it.

@KreepKarnage

Жыл бұрын

@@bucketsaremyfriend most metal is unlistenable. TOOL makes sing songs with heavy riffs while talking about sexual abuse. in ease of access alone they're superior, objectively

@M4RCi92

Жыл бұрын

@@bayerhead try Soen, they're pretty damn good!

I personally don't care about the Beatles much. But then you see people like Tony Iommi, Lemmy Kilmister or Ozzy talk about how they loved their music and how much of an influence they were for them to even start to play music and you have to recognize the band's importance for rock and metal music.

Red Hot Chili Peppers are one of the least underrated bands of all time. To call californication by the way stadium arcadium ext. awful is outlandish

@zachrizzo6525

2 жыл бұрын

Mother’s Milk, and Uplift Party Plan are incredible albums

@dillon4060

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Blood sex sugar magic was their high watermark. With a few exceptions it's been downhill since then.

@paulstich3150

2 жыл бұрын

@@dillon4060 stadium Arcadiam is there best work in my opinion! It has wide variety of sounds and great song writing! Love blood sugar sex magic, californiacation, by the way, one hot minute, and even some of there newer stuff!

@Capnsensible80

Жыл бұрын

It's just the hipster opinion to say only up to BSSM was good and everything after sucked. Oddly enough, it's that contrarian situation he talked about earlier in the video. People just hate on the later stuff because it got popular and sounded different from the first few albums as though all bands don't change over time (especially over ~40 years) and that getting the same 2 or 3 albums released over and over for half a decade would be something anybody wants 🤣🤣

@theteachers1

Жыл бұрын

This video is outlandish... I feel he has a problem with the fans

ACDC or Acca Dacca as we call them here in Australia, have reached legendary status here that transcends music - they remain a timeless institution - while so many of their generation have becomes relics of their era. And we are talking about a band who did their last tour over a decade ago! AC-DC in THIS country is loved by young and old - have a good listen to their music - it's exceptional and timeless Hard Rock - not Metal ( AC-DC is not heavy metal). I cannot imagine where hard rock and metal would be today if not for AC-DC - their songs are anthems on a scale that rock seldom reaches. Long after we are all gone their music will still live on - and if that's not stuff of legend then I don't know what is.

Hey Finn, I really like this new thing you do where you say the diplomatic "nice" thing about the band that you don't really mean and then show us a meme representing your real opinion. Keep it up

Without the 80's metal, you wouldn't have any of the extreme sub-genres that came after, man, imagine to listen Reign in Blood when it came out, that would've been some experience...

@pauliewalnuts829

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not a big Slayer fan but you can't deny their influence. It is crazy that Reign in Blood came out in 86. That must of blew some minds.

@colico14

2 жыл бұрын

@@pauliewalnuts829 Between Reign in Blood, Master of Puppets, and Peace Sells....But Who's Buying?, '86 was an incredible year for metal.

@shinescythe

2 жыл бұрын

No one is denying their influence, their sound just doesn’t hold up

@danibaltr9742

2 жыл бұрын

@@shinescythe That applies to the glam scene but 80's thrash is ageless..

I love ACDC, Yes they are very samey and simplistic but that's OK. I'm not saying I like all their stuff, but those first 4 albums are a seminal piece of Rock history, it's dirty, raw, and most importantly fun.

Whoa! I didnt expect to see Deftones here. I didnt know they have that much following to be considered overrated. Always thought it was the other way round. But i grew up on Deftones (late 80s kid) and still love music they put out even today. Only saw them live in 2014 and it was amazing. I also love tool and radiohead i understand the fandom can be tiring but they made great music.

@sellmeoncraigslist4067

Жыл бұрын

They’ve definitely gotten very popular in the Metal community but I it’s weird that their even on this list with way more popular bands like AC/DC and Nirvana.

AC/DC are HUGE. I'm getting to be middle aged, but since I was a kid, AC/DC were always, well perhaps not relevant, but everpresent. They put on a great show too!

I go to the third biggest high school in California in terms of students and AC DC are still super popular

@abominati0n

2 жыл бұрын

hells bells will continue to ring 🛎⚡️

@markmattimore592

2 жыл бұрын

And as that 55 year old that that Finn thinks no one should hang out with (😕) I can comfortably say that AC/DC kind of sucked back in 1980 and they still suck now. Did I listen to them in the sixth grade? Of course, everybody did. But by 1985 I, and most of the world, we're done with them and moved on to other stuff.

@tarmandolam

2 жыл бұрын

yet they still thinking AC DC was a brand🤣

@Pirategod23

2 жыл бұрын

Only hs kids like em when they get older they will realize the suck Just like every hs generation before then.

@b.w.22

2 жыл бұрын

My 16 yr. old niece who lives in Singapore is stoked on AC/DC and taught herself the drum parts to Touch too Much. I dunno about this one, Finn.

Imagine a pop-punk fan saying that Radiohead and Tool are overrated LOL

@takodabostwick8507

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a pop punk fan and I would say that Tool are overrated! I'd go towards Between the Buried and Me and Gojira more! Both of them are way better than Tool and are the best prog bands of all time!

@Ninjamanhammer

2 жыл бұрын

@@takodabostwick8507 Try asking either of those bands what they think of Tool. Hint: Mario Duplantier has a 10000 days shirt.

@archiemisc

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with pop-punk

@CaH6633

2 жыл бұрын

@@takodabostwick8507 No.

@Sebshappytrees

2 жыл бұрын

Rather be a pop punk fan than a tool

How can you say Radiohead is overrated solely for you not liking Kid A? What about all the other albums?

The Beatles didn’t write “Twist And Shout.”

@jonathanporter5223

2 жыл бұрын

The Top Notes did.

@codyscards6698

2 жыл бұрын

True but John losing his voice while giving it everything he had to get done with the album makes it the best version.

I agree that a lot of 80's metal hasn't aged well, but man I still absolutely adore King Diamond and Mercyful Fate.

@thatguytravis3933

2 жыл бұрын

The only good Metallica is 80s Metallica. Slayer, Anthrax, Suicidal Tendencies.. Plenty 80s I still jam to. Pantera.

@nasserbukhari9513

2 жыл бұрын

@@thatguytravis3933 Totally. 80s still got the best metal and punk bands.

@jimpetro2141

2 жыл бұрын

King Diamond, Possessed, The first two Nuclear Assault records, still listening to those...

@themadthrasher5000

2 жыл бұрын

Most of the 80s metal that wasn’t glam or, over the top cheesy has aged pretty well I think. Love me some merciful fate, Slayer, a lot of those classic speed/heavy/Thrash/Death metal bands still sound good.

@KBzDvSt

2 жыл бұрын

@@thatguytravis3933 Suicidal Tendencies is underrated af

When people talk about overrated bands bear in mind that many people have pretty incomplete and cursory knowledge of a bands output. It's like film buffs discussing overrated films when they may have seen a few disjointed 3 minute clips of a movie. Many bands most well known songs don't showcase the full potential of them.

Tool has been a long time favorite, it's perfect for people who like to "actively listen" to music, if you're just half listening to it or need that instant gratification it might not be for you. I don't mean to sound like a pompous Tool fan, if you're not aware of actively listening it's simply just concentrating on as much as you can with in any song. Tool happens to have a ton of things going on which makes them a lot of fun, System of a Down is similar and even RHCP has a lot to offer, they too have amazing musicians though their stuff became way too pop sounding at something. Californication top notch stuff imo

@stevennorris7181

Жыл бұрын

funny how none of the bands he likes, of which plenty could be on here, werent featured, tastemaker...

@paeden5431

Жыл бұрын

@@stevennorris7181 ya.. it might not be so cringe if it was advertised better as an opinion piece, his title makes it sound "matter of fact"

@SuperRodrigocamara

11 ай бұрын

this is exactly why i stopped listening to them, music, should never be a chore. Or a case study in music appreciation. I have heard the same comment time and time again. If you listen to Fear Inoculum a few more times, you'll like it, and no thanks, I did hear it, and found nothing interesting to come back to. Execution alone just doesn't do it for me anymore.

A fun game to play: Middle School poetry or imagine dragons lyrics. Impossible to tell the difference.

@benjaminwatt2436

2 жыл бұрын

wow, as a high school teachers, i can vouch. The lyrics to "thunder" are so shallow and vein

@Lucasryan

2 жыл бұрын

Highly *underrated* comment right here. Love this 😂

You can argue any band with a vocal fandom can be argued as over rated, as it's usually the fans who ruin it for the rest of us.

Mr Bungle are objectively phenomenal musicians. Quite possibly the best group of proficient musicians out of all of the ones you have mentioned in this video. You can like them or not, but every single musician in that band was top notch

@stevemcmanus2466

8 ай бұрын

I was offended, Mr Bungle are amazing. If I could only have one album for the rest of my life it would be the first one, (commercially that is)

The reason why people say Nirvana is overrated is because they listen to smells like teen spirit, come as you are, heart-shaped box like they listen to the most common songs so they can’t say Nirvana is overrated

Respect to AC/DC for playing the same chunky guitar riffs and anthem lyrics for 40 years that’s why even their new albums always sell great and land at #1 on the billboard sales chart which is really rare for an older legacy Rock band. ✊🏻

@LegendoftheDragonSword

2 жыл бұрын

They've always just been themselves. Through six different decades of changing technology, fashion, popular trends, etc. They just continue to ignore everyone else and stick to their guns. Mad respect to them.

@12thMandalorian

2 жыл бұрын

They have lived more than any of us ever will, incredible band, legacy and music

@lordtrigon1733

2 жыл бұрын

Thoroughly unpretentious Rock to get plastered to, who does it better?? ⚡

@12thMandalorian

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordtrigon1733 that sounds like a good solo night in

@bencousins7311

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordtrigon1733 no one boss

I'm still not sure why Finn believes that the embarassingly over-enthusiastic nerds that can be found at the core of every fandom only delegitimizes certain bands he's fond of tearing down... or damning with faint praise. He loves tossing out the 'Olive Garden' metaphor for music that uber-fans consider brilliant, but always fails to make the criticism stick by refusing to put his own tastes on the line. In this case, he neglects to provide us with his idea of the Michelin Guide 3-starred cuisine that makes Radiohead seem like Olive Garden. I'm interested in hearing who he has in mind, or if there's anyone at all.

@AtlasCompleXtheProd

2 жыл бұрын

this comment is kinda snarky, but it's a good point that i would like to know which bands are the legit ones, so i can go listen to em cuz i always love some Finn-curated recommendations. He's how i got into slam, i'm a big Devourment fan now lol

@funoolesbian4225

2 жыл бұрын

classical music

@awarewolves1712

2 жыл бұрын

Gatekeeper! You're like the gatekeeper who does the thing and wears the this and does the that in the high school cafeteria back in the day....

@fuzzuck

2 жыл бұрын

​@@awarewolves1712 YES. But also: NO. And just a dash of: MAYBE. Be careful, tho... viciously racist compliments of that sort could get you Anulled.

@CarlosLopez-md1ei

2 жыл бұрын

Husker Du prolly IDK

"AC/DC writes the same album over & over and that's bad" Later: "I love Slayer" I'm not hating on you. But, c'mon. Slayer does the same thing every album as well.

That 80's point is way too general for my taste. You can't claim that a whole decade is overrated in terms of music. Sure, there were tons of bands who were mediocre at best, but there were also a lot of bands who paved the way for others, who rode on their tail and stepped it up a notch. Bands like Iron Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth and Blind Guardian started out in the 80's and still play the big crowds. And saying, that the Beatles are overrated is like saying Elvis is overrated, or the Rolling Stones, Queen and David Bowie. You can't overrate what is still considered by many to be classics.

U2 and coldplay. They're basically just bunch of reverb and delay sound mashed up together.

@kanjosidr

2 жыл бұрын

I've been calling a lot of pop/rock stuff "reverbcore" lately and Coldplay is certainly a reverbcore band

@melodica5407

2 жыл бұрын

@@kanjosidr Oh yeah coldplay is more annoying. Chris martin's mumbling singing is just meh.

@Georgeirfx

2 жыл бұрын

Agree on Coldplay, but U2's 90s output was top-notch, just watch their Live in Sydney 1993. It's since the early 2000s that they started to go bland and flavorless

@melodica5407

2 жыл бұрын

@@Georgeirfx indeed. I do like some of their early stuffs.

I don’t like weed, very little nu metal or shoe gaze and I love Deftones lol

Dude sits in front of hardcore bands and calls Radiohead the sonic equivalent of Olive Garden

@raythepretentiousnerd

Жыл бұрын

I KNOW MAN! If he listened to artists like Apex Twin, Boards Of Canada, Swans, GSY!BE, Björk, etc., I mean I would still say that’s really stupid but I would at least get it, but he listens to the most basic bare bones punk bands imaginable, and just tried to cover his ass by saying stuff like he has the finest music tastes imaginable, when he really just doesn’t like the music. I’d be fine if he said he doesn’t like it and it’s not his thing, but he’s trying to cover his ass so much here.

No way The Beatles, AC/DC, and Nirvana, even RHCP are over-rated! They completely changed so much and have greatly influenced music and other bands we love ever since! They are iconic and deserve complete and total respect! 🤘🏻

As an ordinary music fan I never cared about The Beatles. That totally changed when I started to learn my first instrument.

To me, good music is timeless. A well-written/well performed song/album is always gonna still be good to the ears. If I, a 25 year old gen z’er can listen to and love and be passionate about music like Dion and the belmonts from the 50s, to Thin Lizzy, Motörhead, Slayer, and other newer bands and genres, then so can others. I feel like the thought process of “old music is bad” is just so limiting when there’s enough good music to last a person hundreds of lifetimes over. All it takes is an open mind/ear. Even if the production isn’t that great, good songs will still shine through as being good songs.

@thealgorithmluvsu3788

2 жыл бұрын

Same age here and I agree 100%. I like old music, I mean I listen to classical stuff, and that's centuries old. 80's music ain't a problem for me. I like new stuff too.

@parliamentlite

2 жыл бұрын

Good post. I've watched about 10 of this guys videos over the last year or so, but don't subscribe because he so clearly has a bias towards a very narrow range of musical taste and I don't perceive any form of personal music talent or theory behind what he's into other than vibes from when he was at an impressionable age.

@NadezdaBeka

2 жыл бұрын

As a 22yo gen z, I can't even stand modern hard rock and metal. The only newer rock I listen to are hipster bands like The Arcric Monkeys, The Neighbourhood, The Pretty Reckless and Maneskin (they're not hipster but okay). Modern hard rock and metal It's so overproduced, dark and hypermasculine. They take themsevles too seriously and do nothing to seem interesting. IMO hating old music is as close minded like hating fashion or designs just because it's 'outdated'. It's the reversed 'born in the wrong generation'.

@Rr0gu3_5uture

2 жыл бұрын

In all honesty, not liking something simply because it's old comes across as a fashion victim mentality. I never quite understood people that feel the need to constantly update their musical tastes, while dismissing all the stuff that they supposedly loved for no other reason than it's over a decade old, or somehow the bands' image is now seen as dreadfully uncool. I mean, I can put on an old Doo-Wop, Garage Rock or 80s Metal compilation and just appreciate it for what it is, catchy melodies or fun songwriting. If you're into music you'll always be on the lookout for new exciting music and all that, but some of the music might be stuff that was made before you were born, I don't see how that's a bad thing?

@drummerAVA

2 жыл бұрын

Timeless sure… until it’s overdone, maybe. I can think of so many great, classic songs that have been played into the ground. When you grow up around music from decades prior and then it’s like one day you wake up to realize, “wait, I’m 30 years old and they’re STILL playing these songs??” It becomes a bit much… It’s like the people at the radio stations decided that culture peaked 40+ years ago when they were young and there’s no getting better, so let’s just play all the favorites from back in the heyday. It’s kinda lame tbh… I love a timeless tune, but when you’ve heard them thousands of times it’s like “alright…” At what point do people move on? Explore the now? I don’t blame people for not liking pop radio, not one bit… but to say “all music nowadays sucks?” They aren’t even looking or giving anything in the wider world of modern music a fair shake… what makes them think they can even have an opinion? It’s a blanket statement made on an extremely small sample size. There’s lots of great music today that will stand up to time too, and it isn’t given the same platform to shine on. It’s a shame.

I’m not too up on metal now and I want some recommendations of so,e new good bands

Not sure if anyone else has this experience but I think that some bands, regardless of the time period that they came out with their music, capture specific age demographics. I was born in the 90s and in the 5th-7th grade knew a whole hoard of boys that idolized AC/DC. Similarly I also remember being 13 and having Nirvana change it all for me, even though that was in 2006. RHCP distinctly reminds me of high school- even though I did not listen to them at that time I knew A LOT of jock-rockers that did. Maybe I was just growing up in a time of anniversary re-releases or something but that is why I would be very interested to hear from people born outside if my age group to see if they too experienced this phemon.

Sometimes I think the Beatles are overrated until I actually listen to them again.

@brennenparker4781

2 жыл бұрын

Especially the deep cuts.

@candideggplant1575

2 жыл бұрын

Objectively they can be overrated in the literal sense of the word but it is not undeserved. Classics like "Strawberry Fields" and "Penny Lane" aside, all their other stuff is just wow. They did in 8 years what most people cant do in lifelong careers.

@shunsuikyoraku5428

2 жыл бұрын

Rango can't drum and Paul can't sing, not a fan lol

@hrotha

2 жыл бұрын

It's just amazing how many Beatles songs are deeply ingrained in Western pop culture. I never sat down to listen to a Beatles album, hell, I never even actively chose to listen to a Beatles song (with one exception one time I randomly played "Strawberry Fields" on YT), and yet, when Kye Smith did his 5-minute Beatles drum chronology I still recognized most of the songs

@peepodhumperdink4456

2 жыл бұрын

Theyre trash dude.

FYI Back in Black was one of the highest sold albums of all time. They also came out with an album in 2020 that reached number one in 21 countries. It sold 1.4 million copies worldwide. Red Hot Chili Peppers just released an album debuting at number-one in 16 different countries and are about to begin a world stadium tour.

@seantomlinson2505

2 жыл бұрын

yeah this guys normally pretty spot on but calling one of the last great rock bands irrelevant was pretty stupid. Watch out or get THUNDERSTRUCK hahaha

@jasonashley9853

2 жыл бұрын

They're one of the biggest name brand rock bands. Sonically, their music was always sound, never what I'd call low quality. Sure they wrote the samey kind of albums over and over. But some people also can't stand when bands evolve or change. You can call them a great band without believing they're the best of all time. That's where I stand on them. I have a couple of merch items of theirs because I respect their love for rock as a genre and understand their influence on people. I saw them live and even with Axle Rose they still put on a fantastic show. They're great but there are artists I enjoy more than them.

@Doer231

2 жыл бұрын

@@seantomlinson2505 😴

@champ1114

2 жыл бұрын

Lol brand rock

@colico14

2 жыл бұрын

Both bands have stood the test of time. Finn is being an edgelord and letting his personal opinion color the analysis.

I think there's something to be said about the dimension of culture built around bands that get to this level of fame. Like some of my favorite artists & bands will forever be my favorites because of experiences I've had associated to them (shows, friendships formed or strengthened, first time hearing a new genre & so on...) & not necessarily because the albums they made or even the objective quality of their music.

Love watching your videos, while I don't necessarily agree with 100% of what you say, but I always respect your opinion on music.

Finn: Tool and Ac/DC have been releasing the same record for decades and their drones just eat it up. Also Finn: I love Slayer.

@aegisreflector1239

2 жыл бұрын

Three overrated bands. Even if I do like them, they're grotesquely overrated

@asyetundetermined

2 жыл бұрын

@@aegisreflector1239 everything is overrated. Your favorite band sucks.

@RepDeanPhilips

2 жыл бұрын

@@aegisreflector1239 I think Finn is the most overrated thing in this conversation. I mean, the guy has more followers than just his wife and mom. How did he break that glass ceiling???

Kid a was the first thing I ever heard by radiohead and I fell in love with it. I never knew anything about the band or their fans. The song treefingers is so great to me

Even seeing people saying bad thing about radiohead I still love them and still thinking that they have some power or a condiment that make their music really delicious. The lives shows too, u hear the high audio quality they have in the live version. I don't prise them like "Thom Yorke is a god" or say dumb egocentric shit like "no one can understand me", "it's so so so dense and difficult to understand this band", "no other band is like this awesome". So are they overrated? Yes I feel it so, but it doesn't mean that they are just fine or consistent, they are great but not perfect or different.

Finn: Tool - top-tier musicians and artists spending a decade redefining the genre by crafting 10+ minute pieces of progressive metal for over 30 years = overrated Also Finn: Nirvana - good drummer and two average musicians make some catchy (but derivative) alt-rock for 5 years = not overrated.

Finn: I Can’t Stand Shoegaze Bruh, when you made your “worst genres video” you literally only played MBV and Turnover. One of which is basically the number one gateway into the genre, the other one isn’t even 100% Shoegaze, more alternative rock. 🗿

@seadkolasinac7220

2 жыл бұрын

🗿

Dude, South of Heaven stills kicks ass to this day, and as far as Deftones.. Deftones are the only band that managed to grow up with me. The whole band is fire and I don’t understand any hate these guys get.

@floydsemlow8253

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed 💯❤️

@joeyrogerson83

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah not to mention he praises bands who pull like 80% of their sound from deftones. Those guys invented a whole sound that paved a way for a huge sonic segment of modern day heavy music.

@ITFNBiteBayKon

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a HUGE Deftones fan, don't like any of those 3 things he listed "all" Deftones fans like. He's just trying to be edgy and try to stand out. There's a reason I unsubbed from the channel a LONG time ago.

@atrainbrady3208

2 жыл бұрын

The deftones are still a very good band.

@ITFNBiteBayKon

2 жыл бұрын

@@atrainbrady3208 They're called Deftones. There is no "The" in their name.

Enjoying your videos. Since you asked us to do so, I think you're, in my opinion, wrong about Tool doing the same album over and over dude... I mean, if nothing else compare Opiate to Ænima, then compare Lateralus to Fear Inoculum... They each sound pretty different to me. Likewise to say, Mr Bungle aren't musically that great, just blows my mind... I do get what you're saying about Tool fans and likewise Patton fans though... They can be the worst. I happen to be an enormous fan of both mentioned bands. Because of the fans you mention following these groups, I'm embarrassed to potentially be lumped in with them. Tool and Bungle may be overrated, even I can see that. But my difference of opinion lies in you saying Tool do the same album again and again (only 5 albums in 30 years, I mean, they hardly over play themselves in recording), and Bungle not being that musically proficient. But then I'm a huge fan of both of them so probably can't be as objective as I fancy myself having the ability to do so. I enjoyed this video none the less and reckon you're pretty on the money with your points ultimately. Nice one!

Recently, I did a deep dive of Nirvana's catalogue after many years of not having heard them. I was impressed at how well the music aged, still sounded great, better than I remembered. The NY Unplugged session is sublime. Kurt may have the best rock voice

@stevennorris7181

Жыл бұрын

funny how none of the bands he likes, of which plenty could be on here, werent featured, tastemaker...

@Madyoung_beats

Жыл бұрын

Kurt Chester Freddy Mercury John Lennon Frank Zappa Brian Johnson Ozzy Osbourne and David Bowie all had a unique voice and were one of a kind singers

@mikebarooshian7255

Жыл бұрын

@@Madyoung_beats what about Elvis Presley Elvis had a Unique Voice he will always be The king of Rock N Roll he will always be Elvis

Imagine Dragons is what Kurt feared the world would do to Nirvana. The constant playing of his music everywhere, as soon as a song drops it’s instantly looped and played out within 3 days. Makes you hate hearing yourself…then in turn people hate him too so it’s a lot of stress to handle being hated for trying to make great music when the media are the ones causing you to get hated.

@Zatoka.

Жыл бұрын

I’ve actually heard people say that exact thing about songs like Smells Like Teen Spirit. It really sucks how a band can get a bad rep because radio stations suck.

Love the fact that you pointed out Anthony's lack of talent, Frusciante in the other hand is one of my absolute guitar heroes.

@charliet.sanford2495

2 жыл бұрын

RHCP would be much higher on my list if they had a different singer. All the rest of the guys are monster players.

@ButterclawEnthusiast

2 жыл бұрын

@@charliet.sanford2495 I disagree. Anthony may not be the best singer but I couldn't imagine the band without him. His writing and vocal style just works too well with the rest of the band in my opinion.

@charliet.sanford2495

2 жыл бұрын

@@ButterclawEnthusiast I don’t dislike his writing or studio singing. I think it works great with the rest of the band in the studio. But there’s so much footage of him being terrible live. And I get that bands have off nights. But I’ve seen them live twice and it was terrible. Also seen a ton of live performances online where he’s just not good. More bad than good. Makes me wonder how much magic fairy dust they put on his vocal tracks in the studio.

@ButterclawEnthusiast

2 жыл бұрын

@@charliet.sanford2495 that's odd. I watched some RHCP concert recordings and I thought he sounded pretty decent live

@RyanREAX

2 жыл бұрын

Watch/Listen to Live At Slane Castle … best ever

Huge tool fan here, and I find tool fans to be unbelievably tedious, but they are still a great band. Not over rated by society, just by their own fans.

Personally , I don’t get what’s so great about Rush or Mötley crüe ?

@punter1

Жыл бұрын

I have no tolerance for ppl who don't like Radiohead or Tool this muppett is talking through his a**

The AC/DC phase if you were born after their relevancy. Kid will love AC/DC Teen will like AC/DC but only the bon Scott stuff Adult: why listen to AC/DC when I could to listen to 200 other artists that do diff things… okay I’ll put on ‘let there be rock’ one more time , again.

@Viltorm

2 жыл бұрын

veeeeery true

@atomicpunk2360

2 жыл бұрын

How is this so accurate? 😅😂 AC/DC has plenty of bangers tho. Highway to Hell is one of the best rock n roll albums ever

@xshadowscreamx

2 жыл бұрын

@@atomicpunk2360 bon Scott stuff still holds up, Brian Johnston era got boring fast. Who made who was their last interesting song.

@atomicpunk2360

2 жыл бұрын

@@xshadowscreamx true. After For Those About to Rock, I’d only pick a few songs here and there to listen to.

@archiemisc

2 жыл бұрын

Whole Lotta Rosie is still in my regular rotation

Holy shit that Radiohead take is radioactive (teehee). You can tell his Radiohead take is mid because he only talks about Kid A and not the 5 albums afterwards. Like, you can't in one breath say that The Beatles weren't overrated as a result of their auditory experimentation but then say that Radiohead's auditory experimentation isn't that experimental. And to not even mention that In Rainbows was one of the first records to be a "pay what you want" release seems to be almost purposeful. I vividly remember when In Rainbows came out and it was a groundbreaking record. He can say the music isn't that great but if you look at the critical reception and the commercial performance, it's pretty clear that Finn either didn't bother doing the research or is refusing to give credit where credit is due to generate discussion. Either way, the lack of research is pretty clear here to me.

@neverknowingnothing

2 жыл бұрын

yeah... seemed like his friend annoyed him about kid a enough that he wanted revenge lol. I've listened to a lot of out-there stuff in music, and kid a is still great. calling it background music is not something i can understand

No way are Beatles overrated. Harmonies. Melodies. My favorite extension of them is Paul’s Band on the Run track. It’s like 3 songs in 1.