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I love this! Using the podcasts as raw material and then just edit in the lifts you are talking about adds so much! Bloody brilliant! 👏

lasha lifted more than anybody but if you take bodyweight as reference, pisarenko bodyweight was 120 and kurlovich was 130, meanwhile lasha's bodyweight is 173 kilos, 53 kilos more than pisarenko and 43 more thab kurlovich and he just lifted 2 kilos more than both

@paulnicolle6710

Жыл бұрын

True, but can we compare with an era where PEDs were rampant ? Two different era, with two different kind of athletes.

@haroldpepete

Жыл бұрын

@@paulnicolle6710 lasha was got popped in 2012, then he improve his number exponentially, dymas and kaki coach was caught with steroid too, nobody is clean in this sport

@haroldpepete

Жыл бұрын

@@paulnicolle6710 those athletes train hard and they work out constantly but their bodies have a limit, so if you want to break those limits, they must use external help, they have to do whatever it takes

@scottessery100

Жыл бұрын

@@22448824 I do think peds are totally accepted as par for the course. Look at sika and Zack. If people lift ped s are normal. Like cycling like cross fit. I’d love to see what gear tri athletes are are but weightlifting and drugs are acceptable

@abner2193

Жыл бұрын

@@22448824 Its harder to dope now, in the past the athletes could dope all year round and taper off since they were only tested at the olympics.

Brings me joy to see Seb calling someone else out for mispronunciation

I love how Josh has just been edited out of this whole clip except for his dad joke😂

@PhilosophicalWeightlifting

Жыл бұрын

It's a painful existence....

Seb actually looked up what the friendship cup was this time instead of talking out of his ass

The picture you have with Kurlovich in the squat clean is from the 1987 World Championships in Ostrava, former Czechoslovakia.

The most chaotic WH video ever

3:33 Asen Zlatev did 225 at 82.5. If Bulgaria hadnt been forced out of the 88 olympics that would have been a nice fight between him and Yurik.

@loluskekus

Жыл бұрын

Yurik didn’t make the Olympic team though

@frankbialahs7755

Жыл бұрын

@@loluskekus True. I wonder how that came to be. Wikipedia says his career was ended prematurely by the soviet government when he was already preparing for the olympics.

@loluskekus

Жыл бұрын

@@frankbialahs7755 It's actually an interesting story. According to Vardanyan, he was not let in the team because Sergey Li, a Soviet Korean, was chosen in order to get extra money for his medal, if he got one. That sounds a bit like bs. A more realistic version is that Arsamakov simply won over Vardanyan at the 1988 nationals, where Vardanyan went 210x 215x --- in the c&j. He wasn't able to restore his leg strength, which seems to be the case for older athletes after a break, remember Kakhi bombout in Athens

@JUNGLEsausage

Жыл бұрын

@@loluskekus Very interesting. Do you have the source for this? I haven't been able to find much on Vardanyan between 1985 and 1990.

@managanzhendo4282

Жыл бұрын

Yurik said his best front squat was 230 kg for a double and 240 kg for a single yet he still managed to clean 230 kg as a fourth attempt after cnj 215, 220, 224 and final warmup at 210 which means he is the only 480 sinclair plus elite athlete to clean 10 kg under his front squat max in training fully doped whereas in comp he would be cycling off a little. He said that 240 was not the easiest lift but he wasn’t pushing it anyway. So in terms of dazzling flawless technique his clean of 230 destroys any other clean in competition. Cleans like 217.5 at 75 kg, 267.5 fourth attempt at 123 kg and 192.5 at 60 kg at 18 years old; none of those compare with Yurik.

Well, I'm old school (something I'm grateful for every day), and IMHO the most impressive lifters and lifting came out of the '70s and '80s. Hands down the most impressive physiques and much better stage presence, and that created some of the most excitjng competitions ever witnessed. After getting hooked in '72 and familiarizing myself about it all via Strength and Health magazine, I took a bus from my college in VA to Gettysburg to attend my first meet (12/'75) and saw more star power in that one event than anything since. Grippaldi, Knipp, Cameron, James, Napier, Rigert...talked with all of them and came away a changed person. Now, I barely follow it; hate the uniforms and that pasty white overgrown farmboy look exhibited by so many of the heavier classes. Meeting Rigert was the highlight of that meet, and nothing will ever top that.

Wall-to-wall Nerlinger-haters. I couldn't watch to the end.

Pisa 1983 doing 206kg not 210kg.. he never lofted more in competition

Chemical weightlifters except Taranenko.

Y were the old Soviet lifters not very jacked

@theodor320

Жыл бұрын

Not jacked? They were fucking huge!

@Tom-vu1wr

Жыл бұрын

@@theodor320 lol do u wanna check vardanyan again

@Tom-vu1wr

Жыл бұрын

@@theodor320 compare him to lu

@Tom-vu1wr

Жыл бұрын

@@theodor320 r u blind or only looking at the heavier lifters. All the lighter 1s have so much less muscle mass than todays

@JUNGLEsausage

Жыл бұрын

@@Tom-vu1wr Yeah... That Vardanyan guy was definitely not jacked at all... fitnessvolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Yurik-Vardanian-750x422.jpg | encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSyo2GZ5gX19Ucseb2Ql3MM2MDTm92Ua10GKw&usqp=CAU

Lasha already the best ever. Snatch blows everyone out of the water. Heaviest CJ ever as well. Nothing to discuss here. Especially considering the drugged up high lifts of the past (like that 210 at 75 someone did in this comp, even Shi cant hit that)

@johnzhao4641

Жыл бұрын

Liao Hui tried 211 at 73kg in comp. He still missed, but it was kinda close.

@pegleggreg3627

Жыл бұрын

@@johnzhao4641 yeah I kinda forgot about that. Believe he was like 72.7 actually too. Just calculated and holy shit that’s a 272 Sinclair. Damn he was good good.

@loluskekus

Жыл бұрын

The thing is, Lasha and Chinese are as drugged up. And Chinese ae far from old Bulgarian results, although Shi is pretty good with the snatch

@trtnec

Жыл бұрын

​@@loluskekus There's no good evidence to make the claim that Lasha and the Chinese are as juiced up as past eras, even with Lasha having been popped (and the Chinese aren't even ever popped). They're generally internationally tested much more, w/ improved methods, more watchdogs, more publicity, etc. Yes there's corruption obviously, but we've had an expose or three on it, and nothing pointed to the Chinese, or even Lasha, specifically doing anything particularly nefarious besides his doping ban. Lasha lifts more than anyone ever, but he's also the first person of his size training weightlifting from a young age while of course having a doping regimen.

@johnzhao4641

Жыл бұрын

@@pegleggreg3627 He also snatched 170 in the same comp. Would've been one of the greatest total.

The jerk onky fans would take 280kg as better.. sadly

First

Was it just more drugs that explains the crazy?

@thorthewolf8801

Жыл бұрын

I guess friends dont test each other for drugs

@LiftHeavy

Жыл бұрын

1984 Friendship Cup wasn't tested like the Olympics. It was a "we will show those evil capitalists" event. And show they did lol

@christofferuden7680

Жыл бұрын

@@22448824 or it proves Lasha is on drugs?

@trtnec

Жыл бұрын

​@@22448824 It's a valid opinion to believe the 80s weren't on more gear (and I don't think gear is ever the biggest explanation for any results), but "Lasha proves that" isn't really a convincing argument. As the video covered, look how much heavier he has to be just to eke out the Taranenkos/Pisarenkos of the past in the C&J. More likely, he's simply the first of his kind, someone that enormous and tall, to do weightlifting while also being part of a system that dopes. Beyond him though, clearer evidence that the 80s were on more gear is not just the anecdotes from lifters, but all the numbers across the board per bodyweight were better, even in spite of (in my opinion, on average) less than optimal technique back then for explosive power transfer to the bar. It's highly unlikely that everyone got gradually naturally weaker over time, training systems got worse, and technique has gotten less efficient around the world (it hasn't, it's gotten better). Nearly every other sport/game since the 80s it's the opposite case - performance has increased due to improvements in training systems/recruitment and/or technical innovations.

@JUNGLEsausage

Жыл бұрын

@@thorthewolf8801 We also have to remember that the Soviets took extremely good care of their athletes.