Did I get it wrong? What is the MOST Hated ship in the game?

@zFeatherz

Ай бұрын

AL chapy if played by a Unicum 🤧

@camrsr5463

Ай бұрын

Either Black or Brandenburg

@Ruslan74-vt5fz

Ай бұрын

Mainz, Colbert, Des Moines and any other island cowering HE spamming cruiser there is. What skill does one require by hiding behind islands?

@araarashinigami

Ай бұрын

The Shimakaze isn't, not by a wide margin. The vocal minority hate CVs the most. Not one in particular, but all of them, because the haters couldn't even name each CV let alone tell you the differences between them.

@zeissbiogon3894

Ай бұрын

Schröeder is for even dumber players!

I really enjoyed watching Tbull and it's obvious from what we see on the seas that instructional content is still needed (if players can be bothered to watch it). Don't get me wrong I like your style as well and I watch a wide range of Legends contributors. I've been playing since launch but in a game like this there's always something new to learn, some new angle. GG Derka👍

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

For sure, We all miss Tbull. RIP king

@Tbone272

Ай бұрын

I think the problem is that only a small portion of people who play wowsl want to get better. This is a game that is very casual for most players. I don't think the progression systems or monetization schemes do much to hook new players to play as anything other than casual

@moonytheloony6516

Ай бұрын

Actually, I beg to differ. Instructional content isn't needed. Why? There's already enough out there from the likes of Tbull, A A Ron, Xarkun, Metajerk, and others to create an entire university. Secondly....this game is very, very repetitive. It lacks depth which can create boredom and boredom breeds casual play and casual play breeds lack of commitment. What Tbull realized, as his frustrations became more evident in his final year to year and a half, is that ya can't make enough people care to change the perception or daily experience. The game, as you know, is 5 years old now. I've been playing this for almost 4 of those 5 years. The complaints that I heard from Tbull and others in 2021, were repeated in '22, '23, and '24....and they will be repeated yet again in 2025 and 2026. Every content creator that's focused primarily on WoW:Legends has been instructing and we see the same results every year. The game is a niche kind of game thats dominated by a casual player base that likely has a fair amount of turnover. After almost 4 years, I've found it best for myself to just play and just like Metajerk, chuckle or laugh at what I see happening, and know/accept what I can control out there in the water...which is why I still play though not quite as often. The evidence has demonstrated that it is not going to change because of this issue along with Wargaming's questionable attention to quality and monetization in which the latter has caused much cynicism not just in this game but in internet gaming as a whole.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

@@moonytheloony6516 that's all we can do, chuckle and laugh....and maybe hold myself a cry a little too 🤣 today the Jager that spawned with me was having a rough go. 1st he was AFK for a minute as I sped past him in my Kansas on Warriors path. Then i watched on the mini map as he in correctly judged sailing around the island at spawn and got stuck 😆 Then he reversed for a minute or so back to the spawn. By this time our Baltimore on my flank was dead and the reds had a fun time at my expense 😅 it is what it is

I don't hate it because it is powerful, I hate it because the amount of players in it that are awful is shocking. Shimas sailing into radar range then sitting in smoke is so common.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

same lol

@diskopartizan0850

Ай бұрын

@@DerkaGames just shima player things 🤣

@murdockdacoon2055

Ай бұрын

This is my complaint. Being a DD main. But low tier mainly.....because of excessive radar and sonar on Cruisers at higher tiers. I'm the low tier casual DD guy that likes to contest caps. I can't do that when I get an aggressive as fuck cruiser coming in balls out just to pop his radar last minute when I go dark to fucking nuke me like a cuck. I don't own any of those radar cruisers because I don't pay to win. I don't pay at all. SO HOW THE FUCK am I supposed to learn which cruisers have radar and which ones are safe to be around?? I only hop in this boat once in a while to try to grind out the premium supply bonus. Other than that, it goes unplayed.

@diskopartizan0850

Ай бұрын

@murdockdacoon2055 most radar cruisers are available in the tech trees so don't require payment. The lowest tier is Tier 5 Budyonny. I know you prefer playing DDs but playing the Budyonny would give you a good sense of the capabilities of radar cruisers. High tier Russian, US, and some British cruisers get radar. Pan-Asian and pan-Euro DDs can get it. Giuseppe Verdi and Missouri have radar too. If you put 'wows legends radar family' into Google and check the image results there should be a graphic that has the radar ranges and durations on. It might not be fully up to date but it should help. One last note, I get preferring one class of ships over others but playing all of them is a great way to improve your overall game. I hated BBs so ground out all of the tier 5s, it made me appreciate them and improved my play in other classes. Do what you want but just wanted to share my experience. Hope this is helpful.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

@@murdockdacoon2055 ask and ye shall recieve www.reddit.com/r/WoWs_Legends/s/uYifXqfalF

I miss Tbull. He did help me a lot with his content. As you do, just a different approach. Appreciate you both very much.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

We all miss him!

@iamsuzerain3987

Ай бұрын

I miss him as well Captain

@christofferahnstedt3847

Ай бұрын

Tbull was great for helping newer players (and some not so new) understand the game. There’s really no one (that I know of) to fill his shoes now that he’s gone. And we’re probably worse off for it.

Almost everyone who plays DDs play it to farm BBs. They don’t spot, they don’t contest caps. They don’t fire guns at enemy DDs. A good player however do all those things above and that what makes them hated, not a poorly play one.

@outrider425

Ай бұрын

some of them take that no guns part very seriously I could probably make a 10 min video of DD just sitting there getting obliterated by another low life gun boat refusing to use their guns no matter how vulnerable their enemy was it’s as if those guys don’t even know that their ship has guns or how to use them

@swector_unit4257

Ай бұрын

​@@outrider425 i guess im different because of the time and the place where i have to shoot because if i do the i could get lit up by a Crusier or worse a German battle cruiser but yeah i go spot and take caps help out my team with spoting the enemy team and sometimes falling back when it comes being the only side with my whole team going to the opposite side.

@ussliberty109

Ай бұрын

Inside every spiteful DD player is a hurt CA/CL player.

@DS-wl5pk

Ай бұрын

BBS can’t contest caps when a DD exists and is spotting them With perks that literally make incoming fire less accurate, to compound the inaccurate guns of bbs, you THINK people aren’t shooting at DDs but they’re just missing all the time and being shot while looking for the DD and getting farmed by the team while trying to fight literal ghosts in smoke, is actually what farms BBS in those instances. Idk what you’re on about like it’s a fking battleships job to hunt DDs down And how the fuck is a bb even supposed to spot a fuckin dd anyways

@Kenhin

Ай бұрын

@@DS-wl5pk um what? Did you read at all what I wrote? Or are you drunk?

Speaking facts with TBull. Having a guy pumping out up-to-date videos with beginner play-by-play was a godsend. I started last year during the Pommern campaign and would legitimately sail in a battle line or sail circles around my CV for my first 500 matches 😭😭

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

He is missed no doubt =(

I've returned after a sabbatical as I told you I had a very bad wifi out in the rural area but I'm now on satellite and is making a huge difference 😊😊 Any how pleased that you gave T Bull a mention cause his teacher like tutoring was excellent but Derka I think that you fill that spot 😊

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Paying homage to the great one

It’s good to learn more on the perspectives on how to play DDs. I tend to be reliant on DD torps as with many gunboat situations, I tend to get overwhelmed during dogfights. I happen to champion the use of LEONE, very fun ship, though I enjoy her mine-like torps over the gun set-up (which is good BTW)… wish she’d get a buff allowing a THIRD torp salvo. With gunboats, I haven’t found my niche just yet, however CHARLIE HUGHES impressed me quite a bit ❤ as a gunboat.

While your content may not be the best for beginners, I do think you are by far the best creator for analyzing ship and commander builds. I don’t make my mind up on how I’ll build a new campaign ship until I see the Derka review.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Thats very kind of you! ❤

I hear what youre saying on the 'instructional' content and i agree. A A Ron does it too. I get why, but ive played as many if not more battles then most CC's and also back in PC days. Theres definitely a need for it. Maybe have dedicated imstructional video's for it though. I really enjoy your stuff, your 'nerdy' info for new ships is awesome. Plus youre pretty chill and downright enjoyable to listen to. Keep up the great work and thanks!!

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Thank you, thats very kind 😀

That’s why Yuro made that Colonize on Sight and Colonize2 videos and did well, everyone expects the smoke Minotaur

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

I may have missed those ones

@sundancegaming6040

Ай бұрын

@@DerkaGames they are relatively old and they aren’t guides, they are just music shitposts

10:24 speaking of the minotaur radar, there's this really nasty build around it... If you have the Transformers colaboration commander Hot Rod, you can have a radar that last for, 4 more seconds !! And recharges about 160 seconds, which is 20 seconds faster, if you also use the legendary ability to have consumables faster around teammates, you can have one radar in less than a minute after using it, it's insane

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Ive done that build, its s good one =)

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Our player base doesn't know what a rudder is lol

@notarealfirstnamenotareall746

Ай бұрын

Try the stealth radar Minotaur. Rader range is longer than your spot range. You get spotted, crack that radar and watch the DD player actively poop themselves. It's a meme build to run with a DD player in your division that works a lot better than people would think.

Love this. I actually hate blue Shima players more. We have an inbuilt expectation that they're going to fail hard. A well played Shima is a scary thing.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Ahh yes, the Blue Shima is the worst Shima

I know my Wiemar gets alot of hate you can feel the whole enemy team target you when you get spotted. I love it

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

It definitely has a reputation in Legends 😄

*shrug* I don't play her often, but I've no issue with the Shima and, while I do have my moments, I don't consider myself moronic either. She's simply convenient for some people to hate, being easy to acquire AND being the top-tier for Japanese DDs which, as you may have noticed, are mainly all about stealth and torps anyhow. Btw, my Shima is equipped in the usual ways except for Enhanced AA. I just seem to have extremely good luck with her when trawling for aircraft shootdowns. Go figure. :)

Good video as always sir...I rather enjoy DD's which have more tools for their intended role of scouting and cap contesting....currently working my way up the British DD line...tried the IJN line but got bored with the torp spam...keep doing you..the content is very fun and enjoyable...always appreciate the insight on ships and commanders...

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

First rule of playing DD -- don't die in the first 5 minutes of the game!!! Second rule -- SPOT for your team (play selflessly)! Third rule -- cap bases (but again, don't lose your ship trying to cap a base if the situation is not good). Fourth rule -- hunt other DD's (but don't die in an engagement, try to stay near some support ships)! Fifth rule -- spam BB's with torpedoes (but don't chase them to the edges of the map unless they are the only remaining ships)!

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

😁

Shimakaze the Yamato of destroyers

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

lol

@thejosh0100

Ай бұрын

@@DerkaGames I'm still a bit salty that they never went back and tech tree gated Yamato it's overmatch is to powerful to give the average potato chip that ends up in legendary tier

DD’s are the strongest unit in the game. It can counter every other class. Exception being Carriers… but they can even kill those… so they’re even.

Wiping a Shima off the board had to be the most satisfying thing ever 😌

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Tasty for sure

I have that space camo for shima and yet. I still dont like how easy is to play even with the nerfs, I'm not a dd main myself and i did big damages with it, prove that doesn't require much skills. I did 287k with the rental shima long ago. And it is a understandable statement to not play this thing. Id rather play radar meme-o-taur for spiciness over this👌🏼

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Radar Mino you say...A man of culture i see

@DCS_Eternal

Ай бұрын

@@DerkaGames 🗿 yes.

As a PC Warships players its crazy to see people complan about shimkaze of all DD.

The only mouth breathers in the game are those who sail in straight lines and allow torps to hit.

Behold the essay that no one probably cares about, just my line of thought having played with many different kinds of people on both PC and Legends (mainly PC though) The thing about Shimakaze in both Legends and PC is that it's a ship that requires good timing and precise positioning. You can always say that it takes no skill but the ability to predict and lead targets for over 30 seconds is no joke even if those projectiles tend to hit like a nuke and are invisible until you get into a certain vicinity of them. The thing that makes these Shimakazes hated are the players who use them poorly and the bad players they go against. That maneuver Colombo made to push into a cap was a rookie mistake, you don't do that in a battleship when you don't have the adequate support to back it up, much less do it against a class of ship that obviously hard-counters battleships for a reason most of the time. Furthermore you don't take a battleship and sail close to another battleship, that's always a death sentence considering there's always a class that'll have their mouths watering for battleships. Another notable thing is that a radar cruiser should've always kept themselves close to an island unless their position was COMPLETELY compromised. Those are the expectations of the proper scenario vs what you see in both Legends and PC WoWs. Yet the kicker there is that if you play it properly, you give the community a completely different reason to hate the ship. That's cope. They can't perform as good as the individual who just beat them, which they can't accept and so they resort to publicly announcing their hate for it, and then it continues so on and so forth.

@DerkaGames

18 күн бұрын

Well I care, and honestly very well said 😀 I think you're 100% right. My true hate for this ship is not the giga chad, it's the players that have no clue what they're doing that are sailing around in it. Thanks to the way our bureau project is set up, complete noobs could be (and probably are) behind the wheel. As I say, Shimakaze is very likely the most unreliable DD you could ever have on your team. Cheers man

@smh6926

18 күн бұрын

@@DerkaGames Kinda outta nowhere here but if my PC WoWs Clan Leader saw these shima players he'd bawl his eyes out and then rampage until he kills them all with just torpedoes alone just to spite their inexperience lmao

I think subs with the way the pinging is at the moment

I played this ship actually 14 games lol i didnt realize i played it so little. I have many games in Khabarovsk and gearing mostly Khabarovsk. I agree with u . Shima jager and z44 . They never spot and or hide baxk line or get killed in 30 seconds.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

terrible DDs...Watch the next campaign be another DD 🙈

I dont hate Shima, but i what i hate is Hyuuga Jean Bart Plymouth and Republique

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

I would agree. Also, I hate playing the same dudes that are still spamming SOMMERS CE, Mainz CE, and Wichita CE. Like why. How is that fun

@seizokobayashi7309

Ай бұрын

@@DerkaGames yea wallet warrior will always do it lol bcz they uhh dont have skill to play others ship

@WhoDaresWinso7

Ай бұрын

I got hyuga from ultimate crates along with Duca D'Aosta B I'm spamming those babies till the cows come home.

There's a lot of radar at legendary tier, and even more sonar. I found that most players are weary of torpedoes and it takes some level of ability to get hits. Spamming out all 15 torps just to get one hit is a slow way to accumulate damage.

If you run the new IJN CL commander you could run the short range torps, decrease the detectability, and still have 9.something torp range. Just saying lol.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Interesting

I don't really have favoritism towards one ship or another, I just like ships that have a unique play style like the Yamato being THE sniper ship.

I miss T Bull too. I hate shimas too. But a good one will spot and torp everyone.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

😄

Teamates hate Shima (they tend to go for damage only) and the red tem hate her as well (no skill torps everywhere). The only ones that love Shimas are the skilled gunboats and the carrier mains.

@Wilsontripplets

7 күн бұрын

German battlecrusier sonar mains love seeing any destroyer in range of their secondaries.

I think a lot of the problem is that people come across a ship they cant handle and either dont have the capability to adapt/ re-think their strategy or just don't want to so instantly shout, 'NERF IT'. What they dont realise is that nerfing has a trickle down affect; if you nerf one, you have to go down the line in some way to keep the balance. Every ship has a weakness that can be exploited if you are willing and able to do so. It's just a sign of the times that prople want what they should for work for without working for it. Except aircraft carriers, in my opinion they are for people with a lack of situational awareness and cognitive ability to play a true warship; harsh opinion.... maybe. But my opinion none the less 🤘

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Harsh!!! Haha

I agree there really is no skill involved but like you say many DD players really don’t know how to play the game which makes it so frustrating

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Very frustrating =/

I’m proud to say that I’ve had this ship from the beginning and still only have 30k xp on it.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

I knew I liked you Mike

@Zapranoth-lf8nt

Ай бұрын

I know it’s not a contest, but I sold all the equipment off it and removed camo and the flag at about 16K…same with Yudachi…I should just sell that one

@mikeD1234

Ай бұрын

@@Zapranoth-lf8nt one upper…jk. Much respect. I don’t personally sell ships though. If there’s some kind of bonus attached I might take it for a spin in the future.

I actually feel this way with al chapayev, with mainz ce coming in a close 2nd. These boats are like a mosquito that's in your house and you can only kill them after an enormous amount of effort. Jager is starting to climb this ladder quickly though. Damn these boats!

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Yeah those ships suck. But at least they are rare 😄

Shimakaze is a ship that requires focus. You've gotta spot. You've gotta zone your torpedoes. You've gotta deny areas. Don't get spotted. Seems easy on paper, but it actually isn't as easy as you might think. (This is why some players suck)

@trevorconnatser6161

Ай бұрын

But it’s still one of the most simple ships I. The game to have big games in

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

One of my close friends (Tr Capper) that I went to high school with is a very very very casual player. Like a game or 2 every few months, usually while holding one of his kids and putting them to sleep type thing. He holds the BXP record for Shima on Wowsbuilds.com with 5250 BXP 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 He just logged in to play a game one day and that happened. I think it sums the difficulty of playing Shima up perfectly.

@walleyewinder23

Ай бұрын

@DerkaGames holy. Imagine that base xp, but with the x5 this week.. But Shima is a good boat (imo). I respect your opinion on the torp boats and Shima, and in fact, agree with you to an extent. They are not everyone's most liked ships.

@mattsmith5421

Ай бұрын

​@@DerkaGamesNot really, how many surveys take a sample size of 1 to form an outcome lol. Could easily say the Shimas you see with 200xp prove how difficult is to play lol

It's funny how when I first got to LT shimas were so intimidating but now you see them and think "well at least that DD will be gone quickly"

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Lol I mean yeah. I guess I'd like matches to be more competitive. 2 minute DDs are a big culprit in sweeps imo

@Sempergrumpy441

Ай бұрын

@@DerkaGames absolutely and sometimes they aren't even torp boats. I see three bar Fletchers and Gearings way too often.

I only have 7k xp on it lol very good video as well, AL chappy is a different story 💀also add nakhimov

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

😂

Just curious, I have like 264k GXP and am saving up for Massachusetts. Should I grind Komsomolets or use 60k GXP for Serov?

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Eww, no on wasting it on a tech CV. Save it for Big Mamie 100%. You'll be happy you did. Amazing BB

good info outside of it being wows legends . been playing since wot cb with the warp bug

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

You've been around awhile 😄

“And their team from C is going to head to the mid.” Thats the smart thing to do, but I’ve seen too many games where players remain in the cap even though there is no longer any threat. Not sure if it’s timidity or literal mindedness i.e. “defend the cap”.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Mirror exactly what I did in this game. Spot 1st, contest caps, set up torpedo cross fires with your team

Why you no Shimmy Jimmy? Anyways gg great vid on this fine pile

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

😂

I love tormenting ijn dds with my cvs hehe

How do I play Yuudachi? I got her three weeks ago and sometimes have hard times playing her since im used for CA's and BB's

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Same as I did in this game =) Spot, cap, then torp

About to get the ship myself tomorrow

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

enjoy!

TBull was the goat I miss him

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

😢

Since I play wows on pc it’s funny seeing this video, since shima has been severely power-crept

@DerkaGames

27 күн бұрын

Subs alone feel like a massive power creep for DDs

I play destroyers a lot, and that one is one of my least played.

Not sure about legends, but PC wows shima is good because it’s low detection. The guns while low fire rate have high alpha and set fires constantly

Honestly in my opinion, I would find myself holding more hate for ships like the minotaur. Sure, the shima can be annoying, especially if there's say 3 or even 4 of them on an enemy team, but I'd rather deal with torpedo spammers over fire setting spammers. Because at least with torpedo's there's the option of maneuverability and radar to spot them early, whilst mino shots aren't very easily avoidable.

we all hate the "wall of skill" when its coming our way

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

For sure

If you are in a Shima and you get hate mail from red team, then you have done your job.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

😂

I loved TBull’s content and he’s the only reason I know how to play the game to be honest, but what happened to him? Did he just stop making content?

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Big debacle over fleets. He had plans for people to pay to be in his fleet (fleets*** he was going to have several). Of which he would go and play with his fleets and all of those members. Wargaming said that was against the agreement we have as official Community Contributors. Tbull said that's bullshit. Neither side budged so Tbull left the CC program and the game. He made Startfield content for a bit than hung it up looks like

@7thsealord888

Ай бұрын

I loved his content too. For explanations, it's probably best just to Google 'Tbull' and look around. Anything I might say here could be misconstrued or taken as inflammatory.

@Battlebug99

Ай бұрын

@@DerkaGames Ahhhh I see, thanks for the clarification on that

If Legendary Tier played as expected (only experienced players), the dislike of Shima would be less. However, since Legendary Tier often has inexperienced players, naturally there are issues both with inexperienced players using the ship and inexperienced players on the receiving end of the ship. As an experienced player, I have no issues with Shima, especially on the receiving end, because they usually will have to work to take me down. The same tactics I use against experienced DD players work against inexperienced ones. Until all red DD's are sunk, every blue BB player should assume they are the priority target and sail accordingly.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

If only Shima were locked behind having to play Yugumo in the bureau. But alas...

DD is super super important but to be honest it is SO RARE to see CCs play them. I think there is not a single CC that is a DD main.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

I can sum that one up for you (at least for me personally). I Don't have the luxury of spamming a single ship or ship class (being a main). If I want to make content that people want to watch, it's about variety. And with around 500 ships in the game that's lots of different ship playing. From a creation standpoint, if a CC were a DD main, and just made Destroyer videos, then only people who wanted to see destroyers would come to their channel. They would effectively be cutting their audience into fraction of what it could be.

@dimplypaprika7693

Ай бұрын

check out Blackpriest! He is pretty much exclusively DD and gives great tutorials on DD play!

“The late great TBull” what happened to him? Where’d he go? I haven’t been big in wows in a long time

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

He "retired" lol

Coming from someone who has played on pc since closed beta. The Shima is easily one of the easiest DDs for noobs to hopelessly fail with. If your getting caught out by a Shima then you Fkd up. Plain and simple

I’m convinced that 60% of the player base doesn’t watch “how to” videos because everyone thinks that they’re playing the right way. I saw a player in a Montana yesterday spamming HE yesterday from behind an island yesterday. They’re always the ones in game chat yelling at people 😂😂

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Haha that's 100% true. The few times I've left game chat on, I could feel my IQ lowering

@billdozer_6840

Ай бұрын

@@DerkaGames sometimes I use it as a jukebox

Can't agree more on the dd campaigns. Those are always the worst. That's usually when I play more dd, just to try and off set the crappy dd players. But I'm just a meathead with a controller so I usually join them at the bottom of the sea 🤣 Gg🍻

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Smart! Get your radar Cruiser out

No skill in a Shima says the BB driver that is sailing like there is no Shima.

Ironically Shimakaze is one of the worst TX DDs in WoWS PC cause the game has been out a lot longer, everyone knows to anticipate torps and lot more radar DDs lmao. Weird to see our cousin having a completely different game

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

That is pretty interesting! Definition of power creep I suppose

Thats why i want one

Shima at the end of the day is just a one trick pony. If its left alone it will be annoying. But its really easy to remove them compared to other destroyers.

If you played this ship on PC you would get slated for using the noobtubes. You can see them from the moon. Try playing with the 8km or the 4km torpedoes and show some skill.

They should also match make by commander levels not just ship tier level.

I hate the jäger the most. Black is my favourite high tier dd. Radar good guns and long range torpedoes.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Black is good!

Shimakaze is fine, I don't play mine often enough but when I do play it I am still surprised how many dumb BB or CC players that sail in a straight line. Players that do not adjust for hidden DD's make the Shima easy to play.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

tis true

I like the sumner

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Indeed

I killed half of the other team in this ship once..6 kills.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Noice

Was playing montana today got jumped by 2 shima’s while getting shot at by a colombo and my team8s ditched me running to edge of the map SMH legendary tear annoying sometimes

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Sounds like me in Kansas a day ago =( left to die, no fun at all

Idk what you're talking about, it's obviously the most skilled bote in the game

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

😄

BB steams ahead in a straight line at a constant speed then complains when hit by torps. Pretty much describes majority of LT gameplay. I understand that kind of thing at the lower tiers when you're learning how to play the game, but seriously, you REALLY should know better. Oh, and the irony of someone in a C. Colombo complaining about another ship was priceless.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

😂 I had the same thought. Colombo is, in its current state, the best Battleship in the entire game. I'd argue that all day

I play Shima and get radar minos alaskas and Brisbanes on the enemy team. Goodluck with 5 radar cruisers😭

The problem you state with the Shima isn't a Shima problem or torp DD problem whatsoever. The majority of DD players are absolutely clueless. If I had a dollar for every time I saw a gunboat DD unload in front of a bunch of reds instead of finishing his cap, only to die in less than a minute later, I'd have enough for a nice dinner every single day. Add in every time a DD never once enters a single cap the entire match and I'd have enough for a movie and popcorn as well, even at the current prices in this economy. Lots of people are bad at this game, regardless of ship class. Bad DD players are more visible simply because DDs are the most important and impactful ships in the game. People hate torp DDs and hate CVs for the same exact reason: they whine saying there is no counterplay, when the actual counterplay is having map awareness. If firing torpedoes "takes no skill," dying to torpedoes "requires having only one brain cell." If you actually want to talk about a DD that requires the least amount of skill and knowledge, look to Kamikaze in any match without a CV to counter her. Kamikaze has the highest floor and ceiling in terms of carry potential versus any ship she can possibly meet in a match -- in a non CV match. A smart Kamikaze player can solo an entire lobby if there is no CV to counter -- and any CV captain with two or more brain cells can shut down that Kamikaze with less effort than it takes to buy more doubloons in this game. The wonders of game balance.

I got a Shimakaze build that actually requires skill to play.

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@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Lol at least it's hidden behind a pay wall

Soo idk much about top teir but where I am rn (although I do mostly play against ai) I’m at around teir 3-4 for everything trying to get battleships. But from what I know destroyers are supposed to spot and try to destroy carriers and battleships Cruisers support battleships and carriers and battleships just take anything out they can

@DerkaGames

23 күн бұрын

Yeah! kinda like rock paper scissors as you say (DD beats BB, cruiser beats DD, BB beats cruiser) in its most simple form. I would add though, it's much more important for DDs to spot, and play objectives than to try and kill battleships and carriers. Cruisers should support their DDs first and foremost to try and protect them/kill enemy destroyers. And battleships, while yes they should try and kill anything that moves, target selection is important (DDs first, carriers, cruisers, then enemy battleships). Also while killing the enemies its important that battleships are in a position where they can tank damage for their team

@enderlord_27

23 күн бұрын

@@DerkaGames thank you for this it really cleared some stuff up and gives me a general idea of how to play everything

Wish they would up the amount of players per match to 12v12

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Idk if consoles can handle it

sounds like others have a skill issue considering most things should have hydro at this tier?

No skill in a shima, true when you face no skill BB players and lets face it. Most of the time you do just that.

You know what would fix Shima spam? Nakhimov

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

I KNEW before I clicked what the answer was 😂 never change Demo never change

You’re too right about shima. Typical brainless IJN DD and yet people do the dumbest stuff with her.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Lol

So wich is the most loved ship?🤔 I'd like to see a video on that. And maybe do a vote first😃

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

thats a good question! everyone has their own faves so that ones hard

@Sollisen

Ай бұрын

@@DerkaGames How about starting a survey for favorite tier, then class, then ship?

WG gave that thing the weakest nerf of all time just so they can say that they did nerf it 😂

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

unsure what else they would nerf and not make it useless

@Sempergrumpy441

Ай бұрын

Because shima players nerfed it by being themselves.

You saying the yudachi is a one truck pony... ..that thing is a monster with its HE. yes you can built it for the coolie cutter torpedo builds but.. please please try out a hunbuild with screamers.. two instances I had One v one vs a kidd... because I turned to get my rears in while semi kiting I won that fight And a fight vs hayate. They smoked up. I charged them to assured detectability and sent them to the fish with a speedy fish I'm not into torp dds either, but dachi is the one exception 😊

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

You're a brave soul haha! Yudachi HP pool is like 13k

@hamakaze1364

Ай бұрын

@@DerkaGames with al yuki the following 13200hp 2429x5 he at 5.7 seconds The key her her small silhouette compared to most dds she's one the smallest from my experience

DDs are all like this. They’re mouth breather ships. You get a fkin 5 km spotting range… all you need to do is avoid planes and not shoot guns. If you have smoke you will never be seen until it’s too late. It’s a similar thing with submarines. You don’t need to think too much to do good. Don’t get spotted, spam torpedoes against people who are forced to maneuver against a thing they can’t fkin see and probably hold shots cause they’re expecting you to pop up soon. It isn’t even a matter of maneuvering, if a DD is there and you’re in anything but another DD, you HAVE to move to avoid and constantly be distracted because these as hats sit there in smoke and on the cusp of spotting. God damn man I hate dds I hate dds and if submarines behave like this they’re the same thing. DDs should not be this good.

24 videos.... no Lexington ;(

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

OOF

thee shima players definitely, they probably see a vid or two of shima (or any japanese torp boat) and think its that easy to get kills when it involves more than just throwing torps and smoking up lol

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

That could be

Well unless I get a mission that requires pvp Tiers 6-Legendary is strictly only co-op for me. Too stressful. Considering Texas is my favorite ship tiers 2-5 are my play areas. Plenty of variety and everyone is stupid like me (been playing for 5 years). I know what to do in PvP but due to my Autism I just do co-op. As to shima though, I will recite from yuro, “ It’s a stupid ship, made for stupid people, and highly effective against stupid people”. Also no tutorial is going to help the issues at higher tier, yeah it might explain things for a few. But people will just go back to doing what they want. There is no punishment because that’s just their strategy (as stupid as their tactics may be). When you play a game like this with random matchmaking, people need to understand that you can’t control 8 other people, and my advice is learn to accept loss outside your control. But really in the end I just stick with co-op, I’ve had much more fun and I really just like to play the boats no stress. Btw I can’t wait to try out my Vermont soon, she’ll be ready in about 2 weeks. The anticipation is eating me.

I play a Radar Mino on principle.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

I used to, thinking I was a giga chad. But usually I just perform better w smoke. Maybe I'm not good enough lol

@nozdormu89

Ай бұрын

@DerkaGames well we each have our own play styles. I've never been good with Smoke cruisers.

I wanna know what that hate mail was.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Who's going to tell him

@trevorconnatser6161

Ай бұрын

He shows it at the end of the video bro…

Black and Brandenburg

@mattsmith5421

Ай бұрын

Black definitely, Brandenburg not so much it's easily to disable it's torps and secondaries.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Hmm I'd even argue Black has worse shell ballistics, reload, and shell alpha than Fletcher and laughably slow Torpedoes, making its offensive armament more mediocre

@mattsmith5421

Ай бұрын

@@DerkaGames That's all irrelevant tho when you're sat in smoke shooting the other DD after you've radared them, when it tier 7 arena almost every DD you see is the black or even worse a division of 3 blacks. Makes my skin crawl anyone can be that low lol

Ship is so easy that I’m terrible with it and I don’t know how. Lmao but I can play the Harbin like no one’s business. Makes no sense lol

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

That doesn't make sense!! 😂😅 Harbin is hard AF to play haha

i looked today but couldn’t find this Ship ??

@DerkaGames

27 күн бұрын

Bureau ship, should be there

I’d say Hayate is on the same level of annoying. Can almost rival Shima on the level of torps, but has way better guns, and health so it can gunboat and torpboat.

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Mmm Hayate, that's one of my fave T8 DDs

Yes, it's very hateful, but once I saw those destroyers, I melted them with my kleber. The shimakaze doesn't really contribute to the team, it only torpedoes and once it runs out of torpedoes the destroyer is no longer useful, because killing other destroyers and more so in that tier is very bad, normally all the cruisers can also beat it. . . . . and against battleships, all destroyers KILL Battleships

@kleberjarf

Ай бұрын

I play this Game for 5.5 years

We PC players play with 5.6 km detect shima

@DerkaGames

Ай бұрын

Gun range and concealment differences between the 2 games are always interesting

I would rather skill based matchmaking than have bad teamates

@DuttySosig

Ай бұрын

Even with SBMM you will still get spastic teammates… it doesn’t work.

@araarashinigami

Ай бұрын

The #1 reason why it'll never happen is because this game has way too low of a population as is. At either extremes of ELO, lobbies would take forever to fill up, and as a F2P game, the longer it takes means the more likely someone is to quit. Wargaming wants people in and out of matches as quickly as possible.

@agux0

Ай бұрын

You are contradicting yourself, if you’ve experienced “Cod” as an example and its SBMM it’s terrible….that being said right now it feels no difference with matchmaking it never feels truly random

@cat-tj1xk

Ай бұрын

you want to ruin the game

@tobiathon80

Ай бұрын

They could tag it on the end of ranked rather than close the season once you reach rank one.

So the average player is at the level of a bad player in the PC version then, that's the only explanation I find plausible for people to be torped like that.