For $9000-10,000 you should be getting top-tier, 9000 series hardware and pedals.

@Thevirdrummer

4 ай бұрын

Yeah

@fartpooboxohyeah8611

4 ай бұрын

For $10K you should get a car with it...

@Thomas-Drums

4 ай бұрын

No joke.

@theflint7692

4 ай бұрын

5000 series DW was good enough for every hit record for a couple of decades, I'm not complaining getting a set of it on an e-kit. Seems like overkill, tbh

@milan1200

4 ай бұрын

@@theflint7692for the obvious weight of the drums plus electronics, I think it’s just fine.

man, for the money, i think the ez drummer kits might sound better than the official dw software.

I’m a touring drum tech with an international pop star and me, the drummer and our FoH guy have been talking about doing a live kit that is partially DWe. Maybe do kick, a couple of snares and one or two toms. That way we could skip out on all the Roland PD8s, KT10 etc (and cables) and look way cooler with a huge kit and still having the possibility to do samples, claps, e-snares etc on real looking drums. We need to explore how well it the software works with MIDI, time code etc and how easy it would be for our backtracks/midi-tech to combine them with ableton.

@tarmopoiklik6314

4 ай бұрын

My band has it as you describe. Timecode is running sound and light changes. Toms and kick is Roland trigers, rest miked.

@ludwigtheludwig

4 ай бұрын

Yes, and wouldn’t it be cool to change all those Roland-stuff to wireless drums??? 😃😃

@DaveAsafu

4 ай бұрын

I think the kit Devon Taylor used on the superbowl was part DWe

@paddioche

3 ай бұрын

Be a cool kit for a venue to have and every drummer could play, just select your kit sound beforehand, no need to set up kits for every gig

@hhaste

Ай бұрын

@@ludwigtheludwig Could there be any RF interference with wireless in certain venues?

The abundance of drum keys completely justifies the pricetag 😂

@theTrend7

4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 That's what they thought. Every time you find a new key you start to forget how much money you spent

It’s been a while, kinda missed you lmao

Maybe it's just me being older ( and not wanting to lug too much stuff these days) but I've never seen the sense of having an e kit be as bulky as a real one. One of the cool things about a small E Kit is you can lug most of it with one hand. I do think these look cooler and I can see the visual appeal but on a more practical side sseems like as much or more work as hauling an acoustic kit, plus you gotta plug everything in and hope all the cables work and so on. And for 9k? You coukd get a decent set of wheels or 4 or 5 decent kits, both acoustic and E, for that money. If you can afford it and you don't mind hauling it I guess it's pretty cool but not my thing

@shane2973

4 ай бұрын

i thought he said the kit is wireless

@davidwak680

4 ай бұрын

@@shane2973 You know I'm not sure, if true then that point of mine is moot. Still a lot of stuff to haul.

@811970samson

2 ай бұрын

It's wireless... so how is this lugging more stuff than a regular 5 piece?

@Ast.Rickley

Ай бұрын

It's wireless. Completely. There is not a single wire connected to the kit itself. The only extra piece that this has is the hub which is rough the size of a pack of cigarettes. And that needs to connect to a laptop and can connect directly to a mixer eliminating the need for microphones completely

E drums have come so far in the past years its crazy

@rdavidr

4 ай бұрын

now just imagine 5 years from now 🤯

@Fabi_W

4 ай бұрын

​@@rdavidr maybe it will be affordable

@thibaudg

4 ай бұрын

But it still sounds very bad.

@HR2635

4 ай бұрын

well., not really.. still decades behind SD3 triggered from pads. this is 6 years ago and SMOKES any ekit today.. also the cymbals for instance af way better and very natural feeling and looking! kzread.info/dash/bejne/fYCp1smGnqvOg5c.htmlsi=2-7J1N0jw-hkD2iO kzread.info/dash/bejne/qoiu0bx-ntWqZJs.html

@theTrend7

4 ай бұрын

​@@Fabi_WNOPE😂

The price i actually understand because it can be converted to an actual acoustic kit. What i wonder the most is the durability of the triggers and cymbals over time from someone that would jam to it almost daily. I honestly see the electronic side of that kit having problems down the line with the cymbals bending and cracking and signal loss from the triggers.

@Nooely

4 ай бұрын

I see no reason for the triggers or cymbals to fail as they’re all just very simple electronic parts. If one of the cables would rip, a soldering iron does the job and replacement piezos cost around 4 bucks

@pour-g8677

4 ай бұрын

Swap the cymbals for low volumes when practicing then put the triggered on recording

@OddoRocket

4 ай бұрын

I am someone that has had a e kit cymbal break on me. So that was also a thought

@Zaacdrums

4 ай бұрын

@@pour-g8677great idea

It would be nice to offer this in a PDP shell pack with no acoustic heads to bring the price down for those who have no desire to change to acoustic.

@boricua9071

4 ай бұрын

that sounds too smart for Roland and DW tbh

@Savethepandabears

4 ай бұрын

You're better off just buying a mapex acoustic kit and buying drumtec groovebars and getting a decent modual.

@dennisboxem

4 ай бұрын

I am guessing there will be one sooner or later, as there are so many players out there not looking for another kit they can use acoustically. Why have a gorgeous DW shell as base for an electronic kit? The change over is too much of a hassle for many.

@theflint7692

4 ай бұрын

for real, anybody who can drop 10k on a novelty e-kit definitely doesn't need another acoustic kit

@811970samson

2 ай бұрын

Novelty? Lol...e-kit aside, adw collectors series kit is a "novelty"?

Holy Machine-gunning Batman! 15:57 and 16:26

@rickbiessman6084

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, absolutely baffling, isn’t it? Why do people actually still pay money for that kind of let down?

Working on the Roland side of things, I hadn't seen these in action yet and I'm pleasantly surprised.

I just loved this video, for so many reasons. For one, it was very entertaining!!!! Love your delivery and comments. You definitely cracked me up. Very informative as well. Hi hats seem wonky, just like my Roland hi hats. Great thorough video!

Great review, one of the more comprehensive ones on YT to date on the DWe.

You're content is fantastic, man! Keep up the hard work!

What about a DIY hybrid acoustic/electric kit with some triggers and a cheap drum set vs the DWe? That would be interesting to see

@sevencrickets9258

4 ай бұрын

It would be some glorious OG rdavidr content. And useful.

@sevencrickets9258

4 ай бұрын

Commenting again. Maybe it'll boost this comment.

@tristinsean7222

4 ай бұрын

i’d like to see this to be honest

@mathias841

4 ай бұрын

Me too!!

Amazing technology. Thank's for the video. Roland and dw are really blending.

I was really waiting for this review!

I would honestly just use Superior Drummer for the sounds and not the SounDWorks sound... the machine gunning isn't even the hardware's fault damn, couldn't they give it more samples?

HAPPY NEW YEAR FIRST VIDEO OF 2024 MISSED U

Return of the KING rdavidr!! 💯🥁

That Kit is Epic🎉

9k and only having stereo outputs / no other routing options is a little weak. There’s a lot more flexibility in the TD50 I reckon

@NickyNicest

9 күн бұрын

Ya if I am spending that kind of money, I’m getting the VAD706. And for even less I think the VAD507 is still a solid contender against this. But it’s a step in the right direction.

Congratulations on your new drum set electronic

Great video! Its the same issue i have with Roland. Huge money and only ok sound. In Canada this is about $12.6k plus tax and Superior Drummer still sounds better. The wireless triggers are a good step but a company has been offering wireless for years they just didnt have the money and marketing of DW. My hope is that now companies will be forced to bring wireless triggers to market.

Appreciate your candidness,Than you.

"Roomy Spruce" is my new stage name

The machine gun sounds are laughable for NINE GRAND.

@joedessauer

4 ай бұрын

it sounds shit

@Christian_S.1209

4 ай бұрын

Honestly thought the same

@Ludo_A

4 ай бұрын

Some of us just like that machine gunny sound. I'm one of them. Roland sounds get the same critics.

@FortyDeuce

4 ай бұрын

Yeah totally. Hey, for the same $9k go ahead and find me another rig that gives you a top tier maple kit AND a bleeding edge technology electronic kit, I’ll wait here.

@ABentPaperclip

4 ай бұрын

for 9k I would expect a SD3 license with a really good VST

I have a theory that they use witches inside of these drums. Because I don't understand no wires. So it's black magic. Witches.

@steech193

4 ай бұрын

DWe. Damned Witches, evil.

@garyllyons

4 ай бұрын

There are ways of telling whether there is a witch. - Are there? Well then tell us! Tell me... what do you do with witches? - Burn'em! What do you burn apart from witches? - More witches! -- Wood! So, why do witches burn? -Cuz they're made of... wood? Gooood. I think you nailed it Stephen!

I went with the Roland VAD504 and upgraded the module to the TD50X. Couldn't be happier

It’s about time you posted 😂

Thank you that you told about your product, nice to know

Dude!!! I totally know what you mean about new software and anxiety! I get super anxious when I start imagining the rabbit hole that lies ahead when dealing with installations and set up.

@user-ud6zu5tx4q

2 ай бұрын

I work in IT, and this still rings true.

I had the Roland’s when they first came out. As the computers got more powerful so did the sounds in software kits. I think these are very convincing. Too expensive for my budget but they seemed to have nailed the sounds.

These are super cool. I'll definitely be more into it once it's not a first gen product though.

Cant belive that the drums are electric i mean that just insane. This guy always makes my day.

definitely the most in-depth look at this kit I've ever seen. I'll never buy one, but I've been really curious about some of the little details of it. Great channel!

David doing a gravity blast made my day

If you look at everything, from the drums, to the trigger mechanism, to the software that has how many professional DW kits in addition to a Slingerland and a Gretsch kit (I'm sure they can offer drum software sample packs of other brands in the future), to how many brands and types of cymbals...that can become a full acoustic kit in 30 mins or so....to the cymbals...this is a very ambitious project and major investment for the drummer that needs an e kit on Wednesday to an acoustic kit on Saturday without having to have to purchase a second full acoustic or electric kit..it's an investment, to be sure, this is not monopoly money...but it would cost twice as much to have one of each, with cymbals and hardware and software. It's an interesting proposition, and I'm excited for the future of this type of product. Thanks for the review!

guess I am old school; I do not understand why someone would want an electric and acoustic drum set all in one.

@TheHellpoy

4 ай бұрын

Right? Like why using an electric one the size of a regular one? The small and compact size is one thing to actually use an electric one..

@mountainhobbit1971

4 ай бұрын

yep, I was wondering that same thing. @@TheHellpoy

@tobecomezero

3 ай бұрын

To get the versatility of an e-kit and the appearance and feel of sitting behind an acoustic kit. No brainer.

@wevefriends

2 ай бұрын

@@tobecomezero Alesis Drum kits kind of give you that, minus the cymbals.

@patrickellis3205

3 күн бұрын

New to drums, I have a nice electronic kit and am restoring some old acoustic drums, the electronic ones just feel all wrong even though I have never hit an acoustic drum I just feel robbed of something. I suspect it is to try and catch those old school drummers and make them feel more comfortable with an electronic kit. So the short answer is “marketing” most likely.

Amazing technology 🔥🔥

ok this kit actually seems really good, real strong start for dw for there first e-kit and doing something so ambicious as wireless. the dynamics also seemed good from what you were playing? a little bit of a shame on the symbals but those are usually the one part that are hardest to get right and rolands really the only one whos got that pretty well down, and yes electronic cymbals are very heavy, i think this kit would be awsoem with some acoustic cymbals. and oh mah god that software looks amazing

Im not even a drummer, but I love your videos!! Great work

He's actually alive.

Another rdavidr video!!!

An E upgrade kit for my current DWs would be ideal

I just replied to smang it drums comment in this thread. He has pointed out a brilliant option. Using your real cymbals and the DWe’s in unison. Think about it. No hassle of miking the drums, real cymbals (especially the hi hats) for all to enjoy, and lastly no wires on a beautiful drum set. Yes they are very expensive, but it seems like everything these days is.

He’s back :)

I like that you can actually hear some pitch dive on the tails of the floor tom strikes. Makes it sound much more lifelike. I don't think I've heard an E kit before this that was able to do that. Although, I really don't pay much attention to E drums, so I could be wrong about that. But it's the first time I've noticed it anyway.

damn the fact that that you can push the head with the stick and still hit it with a pitch change, is pretty dang impressive.

Amazing!

That high hat stand sure wiggled around a lot

Pretty impressive how far electric kits have come in the past decade. Last frontier is to make the digital snare wires vibrate with ALL THE OTHER SOUNDS IN THE HOUSE

that hi-hat sounds so disappointing

The wireless systhem is killer

This project is definitely a huge undertaking. Interesting to see where they go, or don't go, with it on the next iteration. Also interesting to see who buys them. As for me, I think I have a pdp bass drum shell that was cracked. Got it for $5. That's how much DW money I have to spend.

I dig that T-shirt dude!

This is an amazing advance in engineering! I have been wondering for a long time when the e-kits would finally go wireless, and voila'. Here we have it! That being said, I'll wait until they work out the kinks before I consider buying one. But it is great that you can have an e-kit and an acoustic kit all in one kit rather than having to have two separate kits. Thanks for the honest review!

it sounds beautiful when it's played "unplugged"

I was a employee at Sam ash and the dw rep came in and set up the demo of this kit and the coolest part that can be used as a party trick is you can take the cymbal off and walk 200 ft and the sound will still be playing out the pa. As well as the sound guy only has to plug one thing in and he’s done

@17Codiferus

Ай бұрын

Any "sound guy" worth his salt would actually VASTLY prefer to have individual outputs for each element of the kit. 2 channels of output is absolute nonsense on a $9k+ drum kit. Musicians running the FoH mix (even only a sub-mix) is the stuff nightmares are made of for FoH staff.

First time I've seen an electronic kit with cymbals that look like real cymbals, good stuff! Any chance you'll be checking out any of the Millennium kits in the future? I'm amazed at the amount of features you get for the price

@PlaneTrotter

4 ай бұрын

Müllenium

If I had a project studio I’d get one to offer my clients. You’ll produce some very serviceable sounds both electronically and acoustically and hopefully set yourself apart from other studios, resulting in more business and more money. Otherwise I couldn’t stomach 9 large for it.

We on our electric arc

DAVID.There is another metal electronic cymbal company called FIELD. I have them in my channel. He has a patent on his touch sensitive cymbal choke effect.

16:25 I just can’t fathom how toms in electronic drums today still sound that machine-gunny. DWe sounds like this. Roland does. Efnote too. Same as anything from Alesis, 2box, Yamaha, and the list goes on. The Pearl Mimic Pro is an exception (along with some purely software based solutions). To me it looks and sounds like DW got SOOO many things right the first time (ok, maybe not the price, but what can you expect from DW). But they REALLY dropped the ball on that artificial tom attack.

CRAZY!! my house is on sale now!

I have a Roland VAD 506 - I bought the VH14 so it's essentially a 507. I am very interested in this kit but don't need it now for a few reasons. My kit is totally fine and I'll probably keep it for the foreseeable future That aside, if I were to go with this I would need it to be perfect to justify the price. The first thing, the metal cymbals. I play at home and have had a metal ecymbal before and it is noticeable louder. The second thing, the module. I like the laptop approach and use a VST from time to time, but that is mostly when I record. Most days, like 95% of the time, I just want to turn on a module and practice/play. So basically, I want a module, rubber cymbals, but then add the wireless, and I'm all good.

Yeah, I tried these out at a local drum shop...the cymbals to me are definitely the OTHER ( & Price) deal breaker. Look awesome tho

@chriscobbdrummer6876

4 ай бұрын

Did you not like the cymbals?

Holy crap, as someone with a Roland TD-27 VAD set, I can actually see the price being well worth it if you need an electric set (or just really want an electric set). It’s just like anything else: you can get MOST of the benefits of something with a less expensive product, but to get every bell and whistle is couple extra grand. If they have the durability of Rolands, this can be your forever set, too. The cymbal sounds were a bit disappointing, but those drum sounds were on point

@dalekay9ine

4 ай бұрын

I was thinking that at least I'd hope- the cymbal sounds can just be updated like any software now days and they will only continue to sounder better and better, realer and realer. Still not worth it to me.

I think what may be getting lost in the price tag is the simple fact that this is essentially an endless amount of drums...Understanding ALL ekits are that way, but still...The look of a really nice acoustic (and potential for one) and the sounds of MANY! I have been playing with the roland stuff since the 90's. from a TD7 to a TD12 and now have a 30 that i have mixed and matched parts with so E kits are great for me...anyway i think the price makes sense if you look at it as a 1 time purchase and utilize the versatility it offers. software is just awesome!!

Dual triggers would be nice on the rims ride should have a bigger Bell as well good job on the review

Finish: 10/10. Toms: 6/10. Kick: 7/10. Snare: 5/10. Cymbals: 2/10. Machine gunning: 0/10. Price: -50/10. Sorry, DW, that's a "no" from me. Roland does it better, and frankly eDrums have a loooooong way to go before I'm going to choose them over an acoustic kit for acoustic sounds. It's been awhile, David, good to have you back!

@811970samson

2 ай бұрын

You do know that roland owns dw, right? From another review I saw, other sampling software is compatible... you don't need to use dw's library...

@drumjedi5301

2 ай бұрын

@@811970samson I did not know that, actually. I find that very interesting, as I have a lot of experience with multiple Roland kits and percussion pads, and they all sounded better than this. Thanks for the info.

One thing I wish was a round robin style sampling similar to kontakt libraries. Obviously, on a real kit, no two strikes of a drum or cymbal will ever sound exactly the same, so it'd be kinda nice to have that, but otherwise, this is truly awesome.

@JustanEdrummer

4 ай бұрын

Have you heard a 2Box?

It seems no amount of money can fix how crummy electronic cymbals sound with hard plastic

Speaking of mesh heads and regular heads. Any thoughts on if using mesh heads on the reso side with regular tom heads the batter side would work to have one kit that can be used for both silent practice in the mesh side and loud performance and rehearsals on the regular head side? I can't stand drum mute pads, I only have room for one kit and need both loud and silent often enough that swapping heads constantly is impractical. And I'm fine with the concert tom sound and modifications to make mounting upside down work.

Nice on/off snare gravity blast

If they based these on PDP shells instead of collectors series I think they could have a price that made it interesting, as it is I don’t see why anyone would buy this compared to a Roland VAD or the like

i seen the thumbnail and said "ohhh thats where daves been"

Makes me remember the first time I saw an "electro - acoustic" guitar

Before you send them back, please try SD3 with them. (EDIT: I will admit that these "already" sound better than any Roland I have ever heard... Im just thinking that SD3 would be a little icing for the cake)

@FortyDeuce

4 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same, but I don’t think he can. The software is walled garden, so there’s no way to plug in to SD3….Yet.

@ppd1483

4 ай бұрын

@@FortyDeuce You can use any VST with the kit.

Very cool tech. Love the wireless idea. I... I... I... HATE the sound that was coming from those cymbals. All of them. Perhaps we're spoilt with how good your drums usually sound, but the thing I can never get over with e-kits is that cymbal sound. I'm sure in a mix it sits better (I often record with a cheap e-kit and send the MIDI to a VST and with a bunch of mixing I can get it to mix decently), but what I heard on this video, that's a no from me, especially for that price

cool kit hope it sound well in acoustic mode but a bit expensive for an hybrid acoustic converted, especialy since Evans release a killer app sensitive mesh head with multi zone and a software solution that doing exactly the same and probably more, on any regular acoustic drum, same thing for trigger solution with DDrums trigger or Roland TM-6 pro with there trigger and cymbal pad.

I think I played this kit at guitar center and I died laughing when I found the guitar sound preset where guitar plays according on what drum you play

man, wish I could buy just the cymbals and guts to put in my old pearl kit with the same size shells

dW crazies achivment ❤

That kit sounds incredible for an e-kit, no wonder it's so spenny.

@fartpooboxohyeah8611

4 ай бұрын

The machine gunning is horrible. I don't understand it. 15:57 and 16:26

I went on a journey awhile ago with E-drums. The constant battle was between my desire for them to be "stealth", looking like acoustics while being more portable (and fit into a car easier). I find it interesting that these are heavier than acoustics and just as large...not even cocktail size. I get it but it would be good to see a more portable version. I'd also be interested to know if any thought was put into using real heads and dialing in the electronics to work more as acoustic triggers. After all, If I'm going to haul around a full DW set with hardware, I'm going to do what I can to use them acoustically.

impressive.

great kit. worth it

Tbh for how much the top of the line Roland kits go for the price tag really isn’t so bad. It’s def a primo product. You know where I’d see this being popular is higher end churches, and also the prosumer apartment dwellers

@jamesdennett196

4 ай бұрын

Here in the UK, this is basically double the price of a TD-50. So the extra cost isn't reflected in the performance of the DWe for me.

Love that mahogany

So thanks for the review. Its about the 10th one i have watched and i have yet to hear anyone mention any otger sounds. Like cowbell. I need, no not gonna do it.. but are their cowbells, percussion sounds, "air from asia" and all the other fun and useful stuff most e drum modules come with? Can you assign rims for these type sounds? I assume at some point they will add some China or splash cymbals too. Its early on I know. Some bar triggers would be nice too.

great video! I really like the wireless setup and the shells sound good. but the cymbals again sound mashine gun like (especially the hihat). I don't get how plugin cymbals do a great job in articulation for years now and no edrum company managed to come close to that (except the pearl mimic pro, because slate samples). With a price like that I expect at least the same performance my superior drummer/ggd has.

My cymbals ran me a little bit over $520. However, I'm still looking to add two china's to my setup. They're all Meinl Classics Custom Dark's: 20 inch ride, 18 inch crash, and a pair of 15" hi-hats. If I got the wrong size cymbals I know they won't be the Hi-hats. I might the 18" and 20" Sabian AAX China's like DIR EN GREY drummer Shinya has or had on his kit. Then again I'm likely to have a collection of China cymbals at some point.

7:23 WAT!? Amazing

It would be mice to be able to dial into the software wirelessly i.e. digital mixing board so sound engineers can mix the set separately as the module only has a stereo out.

Dw just being the best at everything per usual 😂

The "over compensating" joke 🤣

I think i will wait a while on these

My A2E kit cost me about $500 give or take after taking my time and sourcing all the shells and pads, rack, heads, etc. It's not wireless, but it sounds just as good or better depending on what drum software I'm triggering!

Imagine getting this when you could almost get 3 of the new Alesis kit