The Most Decisive Operation in World War 2 "Operation Bagration" Pt. 1
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This is the video you have all been waiting for. Months of planning, heavy research, and editing has led me here. I would like to thank each and every one of you for being so patient with this. I do hope you all enjoy this fascinating documentary that covers both the strategic, operational, and doctrinal developments of Operation Bagration; namely the most decisive Operation in the entirety of the war. Now, why would I say this? The reason is because this was one of the first full-scale Operations to be treated with a degree of finesse when it came to planning. The correlation of forces, as well as careful deceptive calculations (maskirovka) ensured a degree of seriousness when it came to the execution of the operation.
This first part mainly focuses on the context of late 1943 and early 1944 (the Dnieper-Carpathian offensive), which set the tone for the later summer offensive. Hence the first chapter being dubbed 'The Beginnings'. It also mainly covers doctrinal developments, as to offer awareness of the doctrinal significance of Bagration. Hence, chapter II has been dubbed 'The Doctrine'. I will now proceed to work on part 2, along with other non-war related videos on the Soviet Union.
If you enjoyed this video, then please consider checking my other videos out. I do not just focus on military history. I really focus on overall Russian and Eastern European history, with strengths in the early 19th century.
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The Red Army actually evolved and ended up doing everything Germany could better. Even Deep Battle was a better Blitzkrieg.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
I have to agree on this
@raylast3873
2 жыл бұрын
The ability to successfully conduct mechanized combined arms warfare is largely a question of industrial output, plus having troops and officers with enough training and experience to pull it off. Once their officers and men got a year or two of fighting under their belt (though at tremendous previous cost), they made for very successful Bewegungskriegers given the Soviet industrial superiority.
@radiofreeacab
2 жыл бұрын
What's even more amazing is that Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Cong + people of Vietnam *perfected* anti-imperialist Defense in Depth based on the Soviet strategy, successfully repelling the global hegemon for their national sovereignty
@AMultipolarWorldIsEmerging
Жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich yeah and that because deep battle was based on Marxist principles it is a verified fact and the planned economy of the ussr was also far superior to the capitalist German economy. It’s not for you to agree it’s a verified fact that deep battle theory is based on Marxist principles. Google it idiott. “I have to agree on this” yeah and why was soviet thinking better? Because of Marxism you f**king imbecilee
@paulbabcock2428
Жыл бұрын
I know that the Japanese reaction was to just take the screwing. But that aside, Idk why Zukov's victory at Kolkin Gol (1939) isn't more often taught as the first use of deep battle/blitzkrieg.
Army group centre: *exists* Red army: its free real estate
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
finally. I spotted a meme!
Soviets: *encircle the Germans at stalingrad* The Germans: you dare use my spells against me, Potter?
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
Stalingrad was a picnic compared to Belarussia.
@fuzzydunlop7928
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich **Requiem in D Minor Intensifies**
@orange8420
3 жыл бұрын
Biggest uno reverse card MOMENT ever
Best discription of deep battle ever made!
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
thank you so much!
@derrickwanyonyi8691
4 жыл бұрын
Had Stalin not executed Tukhachevsky and Yakir The soviets could have handled Barbarossa much better
@command_unit7792
4 жыл бұрын
@@derrickwanyonyi8691 Wasn't he accused of working for the germans?!
@derrickwanyonyi8691
4 жыл бұрын
Nah they didn't. Stalin in his paranoia jus killed anyone he thought could rival him
@n1nj4sp4rt4n
3 жыл бұрын
@@derrickwanyonyi8691 idk man i think he had enough reason to be worried. p much the entire western world had tried to stop the soviets in the russian civil war
Great video! Informative. Loving the 3D graphics. Very fancy
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. We need to have a chat at some point #teamSoviet
@Kriegter
4 жыл бұрын
Nice. Waiting for more on your stalingrad series :D
As Field Marshal Montgomery explained to Admiral Friedeburg on May 3, when the latter wanted to have German armies surrender to the Western Allies but not to the Russians, “The Germans should have thought of some of these things before they began the war, particularly before attacking the Russians.”
@BlitzOfTheReich
3 жыл бұрын
that's an excellent quote. I get the impression that the Germans really didn't think it through.
@kaocakeman2964
2 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich The German invasion of the Soviet Union was likely done with the intent of securing the heartland of Eurasia (its resources, manpower and strategic depth) and forcing the Western Allies - who were primarily maritime powers - into a no-win situation. Given Germany's inability to peace out, invade or otherwise knock Britain out of the war - and Britain providing a foothold for naval and land operations against the continental Germans - this would only see to Germany and its continental allies being slowly bled by the blockade imposed by the Western Allies, like they were in WWI. But securing the resources of the heartland (Eurasia) would make them immune to the effects of the naval blockade and sanctions, as they would be able to draw upon the incredible wealth of resources of the continent. The food, fertilizer, fuel and metals - among other resources - produced by the areas that make up Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, the Caucasus and Central Asian stans today bears testament to this fact.
@daleburrell6273
10 ай бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich...the Germans bit off more than they could chew when they attacked the USSR- and the Russians made the Germans CHOKE on it-(!)
Konstantin_Rokossovsky has joined the game Axis southern front has disconnected
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
please keep meming this video. I love it.
Chad shock army vs virgin kampfgruppe
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
that's pretty much the essence of war.
@kylew1432
4 жыл бұрын
no
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
@@kylew1432 ^ I mean it's a funny comment
@BabyGreen162
4 жыл бұрын
@@kylew1432 no u
@JohnnyKaw11B
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich The essence of the war was Germany doing what we in the actual military practice which is pinching off salients. If German troops hadn't been outnumbered 2.5/1, without proper resupply and on the attack, we would be speaking German and eating kraut three meals a day. Soviet generals were dogshit. They had the material, numbers, and supplies and the Germans were still a cunt hair away from winning.
I like how you went deeper in your explanation than the average historical youtuber would.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I don't post too often but I do put a lot of effort.
@mederickv4780
4 жыл бұрын
Blitz Of The Reich I wish you lots of success homie you deserve it
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
@@mederickv4780 Thank you! Please share this with friends. :D
@lhaviland8602
3 жыл бұрын
FRIDAY AGAIN, GARFIE BABY!
I can tell you’re young, but you have a very good understanding of Bagration and it’s implications. You also have very good map and graphic cohesion in your videos which makes for a really enjoyable viewing experience. Keep it up! It would be great for you to break into in depth battle videos like; Cherkassy, Courland, East Prussia, Narva, Kharkov, Warsaw (not the uprising within, but SS Wikings and the other’s outside), Rzhev etc. You’re doing a great job.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
Well I am not that young (nearly 26), but thank you still for the compliment. I will take it as such haha. These videos take ages to make so I don't know if I have time to do all those.
@nateweter4012
4 жыл бұрын
Blitz Of The Reich You’re most welcome! I research battles and then build 1:35 scale models depicting a scene during. I’m currently working on the battle for Norrey-en-Bessin in June 9th, 1944. It specifically focuses on the SS Panzer Regiment 12 and SS Panzergrenadier Regiment 25, both of the 12th SS HJ. All of my research and build progress is at: www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=279501 I’m 33 BTW, I’m not sure why I thought you were much younger, my apologies, you’re doing a fantastic job. I know these vids are a ton of work, but you really have a talent for proper research and compelling commentary.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
@@nateweter4012 I forgot to respond to this but thanks again for this.
@fuzzydunlop7928
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich I turned 26 in May and can’t tell if you look young for your age, I look old for my age, or both A and B.
@BlitzOfTheReich
3 жыл бұрын
@@fuzzydunlop7928 maybe I do. Welp I'm 27 now.
Wow dude, as a 66 yo WW2 affecianado, who respects anyone who make a point of researching the Russian side of it in general, Bagration in particular, I didn't expect what I saw in this video, really enjoyed it, look forward to repeat it a few more times, much obliged!!!!!!
@BlitzOfTheReich
19 күн бұрын
@@casparcoaster1936 thank you! I need to eventually finish this series
Just discovered your channel and impressed in the way you explain the battle concepts rather than simply repeat the events as some other channels do. I look forward to watching more of your videos.
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@Elfenvampir
4 жыл бұрын
What is the advantage in attacking strong points?
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
@@Elfenvampir it may be to boggle the enemy's main forces up in order to envelop them.
It's simple : - D-day : Germany lost a battle. - Operation Bragation : Germany lost war.
@finanzam1
4 жыл бұрын
- snap: france got invaded
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
this is true to an extent but D Day was still quite significant.
@angelamagnus6615
4 жыл бұрын
Not true. D-day is a massive operation that involves another huge army group that the German has to face. Without the 4 million troops from the other side, the Soviets have to face another 1-2 million troops in Poland where the terrain there allowed for good defensive operations.
@LuZ-vg6fy
4 жыл бұрын
@@angelamagnus6615 which means that war lasted 2 months less.
@angelamagnus6615
4 жыл бұрын
@Dwarov 1 No, I am referring to the entire army group of the Western Allied. This threat is enough to draw in the attention of the German high command that they realised they had revitalised the fear of another two-front war. The Germans were already losing the war in the east by the time of Stalingrad and Kursk.
Comparing two doctrines, I think you omitted crucial factor: during 1944 the Red Army had logistical and firepower superiority, the Wehrmacht never had. The Wehrmacht in 1941 had only about 20 Panzer divisions, so the Wehrmacht couldn't afford attrition and logistical support the Red Army could in 1944.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
trr yy part 2 explains that
@BabyGreen162
4 жыл бұрын
IIRC the Wehrmacht actually had superior firepower until 1943 - bigger divisional level guns (105mm vs 76mm) and enough ammo for sustained barrages, while the Red Army had to rebuild it's arty corps after the 1941 catastrophe.
@stef1896
4 жыл бұрын
@@BabyGreen162 I said the Red Army had better logistics and more firepower in 1944 than the Wehrmacht in 1941, allowing the Red Army to hit strong points, unlike Wehrmacht in 1941, which exploited weak points with its scarce Panzer units. The disparity of firepower determined the nature of their doctrines.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
^ ehh but they even did so with smaller adversaries,
@stef1896
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich My point is, the success of a doctrine is determined by the brute force smashing inferior enemy. When Germans were stronger, they were winning - the period someone call "blitzkrieg". When Soviets become stronger, they started to win - the period someone call "deep battle". If France have had more planes, land and reserves, French "methodical battle" would be amazing. I understand that book's moths, trying to be a good scholars, like colloquial and fancy terms, but it's all about raw power, supplies and logistics. Soviets, in the lack of imagination, liked to send the waves of suicidal attacks, like Japanese, but we know who won in the end, and the truth is rigid, banal and simple - the stronger.
The difficulty in applying the principles of bewegungkreig in the Soviet Union was that to be deployed successfully, after the armoured fist breaks the enemy's line,the breakthrough forces are to converge on the enemy's heart, whether this be political or economic.When deployed in the Soviet Union,the Wehrmacht ( Inthe form of Army Groups A,B,&C ) rode farther apart as they progressed deeper into the Soviet Union and thus were unable to offer strategic support to each other.Their ever widening distance from each other also compounded the overwhelming difficulties in resupply.
@destroyerarmor2846
2 жыл бұрын
Lack of long range bombers
@nigelbagguley7606
2 жыл бұрын
@@destroyerarmor2846 Too true
@Brslld
2 жыл бұрын
True. Also since the infantry can't catch up to the mechanized units these units often suffer the brunt of the soviet forces. Some Generals even suggest the merging of panzer divisions so that they can have a mechanized unit on full strength.
@nigelbagguley7606
2 жыл бұрын
@@Brslld These problems are behind the deaths of so many Russian generals, frontline breakdowns between infantry, armour and artillery get kicked upstairs,NATO monitors Comms and when the general goes forward, he's got a bloody great target on his back.
Well framed, highly descriptive, and thoroughly entertaining!! Can’t wait for more!!
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
thank for such a meaningful comment.
The actual components of what was termed "maskirovka" were all mirrored in the tun up to and deployments for D-day,for example the creation of the US Army's 1st Armoured Division under the nominal command of General Patton,this combined with the highly successful signals deception tied much available Werhmact forces in the Pas de Calais ,thus diminishing the opposition to the D-day landinds. The role of maskirovka prior to the launch of Bagration cannot be underestimated.
Happy to see your back to making videos again Blitz. :)
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It took a while and a lot of motivation.
It finally released, looking forward to see all of it!
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
enjoyyyyy
Excellent video with a good analysis of this battle that went beyond what I expected. Good job.
Wow I maybe late to the party but this was educational. I've known about the deep battle doctrine but it's a first to see someone make a comprehensive analysis on its principles. Thank you and well done!
the maps look really good! like, REALLY good!
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
thank you thank you thank you. that means a lot.
I really wonder how you still have 9,39k subscribers. Like, Jesus, you need MUCH more. Atleast 50-100k.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
People keep saying, but sadly my content has not reached wider ears.
@mhx6437
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich I can see that, and worst thing is that KZread doesn't like history channels. I wish KZread would actually promote this instead of stuff like Morgz and TV News. So much information getting ''locked'' from many because they don't realise that such content even exists. GLHF ❤
This is a fantastic video, and it has definitely made the theory of Deep Battle clear for me! I can't wait for part 2
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
I am glad it was worth the wait
@RomanianJ96
4 жыл бұрын
Blitz Of The Reich Your content has so far been exceptionally interesting, fascinating, educational, and incredibly pleasing. Keep up the hard work!
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
@@RomanianJ96 hopefully it keeps up!
@audunms4780
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich Part 2 plz
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
@@audunms4780 donate to help me produce it faster! :)
Yea it's finally done the wait was well worth it very detailed very well done and informative all round looking forward to next instalment
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for the compliment. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
German generals were actually aware of this tactic. Hitler demanded wasting time on encirclements, while Guderian and especially Von Bok, commander of Army Group Center, stressed the importance to just bypass all encirclements, attack Vitebsk quickly and then Moscow.
This is awesome. Thank You do much
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
thank you for taking the time to watch my videos.
Yet another Excellent video my friend, See you soon, I am pretty sure Y Y
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
thank you my friend.
Hi Daniel. We spoke over paypal before. I Love your Videos.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
thank you
Excellent documentary! Subscribed!
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
thank you! be sure to share with friends.
army group centre: *exists* konstantin rokossovsky: *SAY NO MORE* 🗣
The real father of the Glubokaya Operatsiya (Deep Battle) is Vladimir Triandafillov; Tukhachevsky inherits his work and develops it. It's nice to see it being mentioned
@BlitzOfTheReich
Ай бұрын
I have mentioned him in my videos.
Your work is exceptional, great content.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
thank you! be sure to share and spread the word.
D-Day was a side show to this. I often ask people if they have even heard of it..most say no! But everyone knows damn (with respect) D-Day!
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
yep that is the case. I still think D Day had some importance but the fact of the matter is that Bagration was extremely important.
@Franz19970
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich The most important thing D-Day was stop the Soviets from taking all of Europe and it ended the war quicker..but the war was decided pretty much by D-Day
@fuzzydunlop7928
4 жыл бұрын
Depends where you live. In the West, everyone knows DDay. The internet is a new factor in education peeling away the taint of national localized histories, but even before one couldn’t know this much about many Nazi-Soviet battles from libraries in the West until the Iron Curtain fell and Western historians accessed the archives of Soviet and former Warsaw Pact countries. This phenomenon in the 1990’s completely revolutionized our understanding of the war. So when you get frustrated, you have to understand that our knowledge was not informed by importance of the events, but access to the information. DDay had a 60+ year head-start over other battles here in the West.
Nice video
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
thku
This is my favorite campaign of WWII.
You've just earned another sub. Way to go man! That was awesome!
Ernst Busch: Goes on vacation Konstantin Konstantinovich Rokssovsky: "I'm about to end this man's whole career."
@BlitzOfTheReich
3 жыл бұрын
Well, I think he was in Berchtesgaden.
Labas! I am a passionate armchair historian.....Especially World War2 (Eastern front) Nice feature here....
7:03 Marxism-Leninism is the immortal science, what do you mean it's just scientific? Jokes aside, great job man. Been looking forward to this. What programs did you use in making this?
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
I am happy you enjoyed my cheeky jokes. I exclusively used Blender for this video.
@DrCruel
2 жыл бұрын
Marxism is scientific in the same way that Scientology is scientific.
Great Analysis !
I wish this guy still made content
A friend got me the poster, got it hanging next to my PC now to remember the glorious victory!
As far a I know the proper pronunciation of "Bagration" sounds more Spanish.... as in, bag-grate-te-on. This was a good vid, with a very interesting point that I had not heard before. thank you and good work.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
Of course, but I pronounce it like this because the tion suffix in English has a sh sound.Thank you for your compliment.
@MpowerdAPE
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich There are no loyal English speakers (except among themselves), foreign words should sound foreign. Damn the torpedo's.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
@@MpowerdAPE Ok Admiral Farragut
@beurteilung713
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich Yeah but it is a name, and you usually pronounce names how they are supposed to be said. The operation was named after Pyotr Bagration, a Georgian Russian general and prince during the Napoleonic wars. He was one of the first to stop running away and turned to fight Napoleon's Grande Armeé at Borodino, one of Napoleon's worst battles.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
@@beurteilung713 Yes I am well aware of who Pyotr Bagration was, but that still does not matter. If I am speaking English then I will obviously anglicize a name because it is simply more comfortable. I speak 3 languages and I always pronounce things differently in each of them to reflect the phonics of each language.
Nice production! You have a new fan. :)
@BlitzOfTheReich
3 жыл бұрын
thank you for watching!
That was some dank-ass Animation you got there!
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
that's why it took so long
You're a really cool dude! I subscribed
@BlitzOfTheReich
3 жыл бұрын
Now go watch my other videos!
Thanks for sharing this, great video
Great video, specially where you explained the deep operation doctrine. Keep it up.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
thank you very very much. feel free to share it with friends.
This is a bomb ass video. I’ve had trouble finding videos comparing deep battle and the blitz.
nice video. very well spoken and factually very correct.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
thank you very much!
Great Video! My only suggestion is to slow down the transitions between images. Before I could process a new image, you moved on to something else.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
19MAD95 yeah I have that fast paced habit. It makes my life harder when it comes to editing too.
Great video. Looking forward to part 2.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
hope to see you there
Red Army: omae wa mou shindeiru Wehrmacht und SS: wie bitte?
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
oooof anime memes
@audunms4780
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich aaaaaaah roblox memes .
Amazing how Russian and German tankers worked on these tactics together in the 30’s near Kazan
Woah the voice and the face did not line up at all I was not expecting the ending
@BlitzOfTheReich
10 ай бұрын
lol I know I sound like a kid.
@Fallout3131
10 ай бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich I didn't mean that in a bad way at all on the record. The video was still amazing to watch man. I was just caught off guard haha. Keep it up buddy!
Wait so I am a bit confused, first it seems to me that both Germans and Soviets(and anyone really) tried to envelop the enemy. Then who created weak points and exploited them and who found weak points and exploited them? I am just not sure I understood who did what there. Cause it seems to me that again, both of them were looking for a weak point and exploited it.
@chatnoir1224
4 жыл бұрын
As I understand from the video, Soviet were not obsessed with with local weak points. Strike in heavily fortified positions (with great losses) if it allows you to create a big "weak breach". So they were focused more operational level, while germans - more on tactical level. Correct me, if i am wrong.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
@@chatnoir1224 ^ that's pretty much what the video is saying. If you check the left side quote in 11:30 you will notice that the Germans often enveloped with tanks and mechanized units first, whereas the Soviets used infantry. That's because the Germans often took advantage of weak points that wouldn't really wear down their armored units. The Soviets on the other hand focused on creating weak points by first using infantry to create a breach.
@Rokiriko
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich Thanks for the clarification.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
@@Rokiriko no problem!
Excellent video. Do you ever play war games?
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
I do. I like WW2 Online, Ruse, Hoi, and so on. Thanks for enjoying the video and be sure to share it with your friends.
@juddvance7721
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich Sure thing. If you are Boardgamegeek, shoot me a Geekmail (airjudden). I'd love to hear your favorite eastern front games.
Great video. Thank you very much.
Great video ♥️
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Feel free to share with friends
3:08 Roumania is still used in the world? I belived that exonyme has disappeared.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
I speak quite archaically sometimes. Thank my philosophy degree for that.
@alexandrub8786
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich well it could been worst. You could put the "Wallachia" or "Unitated Principalities" or if you wanted to be as archaic as possible "Dacia".
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
@@alexandrub8786 Sure but Rumania was in use during the second world war.
@alexandrub8786
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich as exonyme by many countries yes. And we like Iran told "We don't do that here". But it doesn't matter ,is not like if you put "P" before"R" in Russia and then become another country
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
@@alexandrub8786 ^ exacto. I know it probably doesn't exist in Romanian.
cool video
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
thank you!
Great video
You need more subscribers
Just found your channel. Very good video
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
thanks. be sure to subscribe as part 2 is nearly ready!
VERY, VERY nice animation and report ! .....but what the heck is the repeated use of the word, "Sub-SEE-quent".....isn't it simply subsequent?
You med expotion! This was great!
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
share share share!
Great session. RS
I absolutely love this video. The explanation of Deep Battle was simple, yet succinct, your comparison of Bewegungskrieg and how it fits better in 19th century warfare is very appropriate as it was largely influenced by the Franco-Prussian war experience as Deep Battle was the culmination of WW1, the Russian civil war, and the Polish-Soviet war. I tutor people on history and will become a history teacher/professor, and I would absolutely love to use this video to explain things to my students. Would you find free views from students to be adequate compensation for my use of this in an academic setting? Also, I know slavic names are hard for westerners. I'm kind of weird in that I am from the west but have had the benefit of having Russian friends help with pronunciation, but "Bagration" is supposed to sound like "Buhg-Rat-sion" vs "BAG-RASHUHN". Its a curse we historians have to deal with, I butcher German names all the time and that should be easy for me as a native English speaker. Anyway, pronunciation is the only small nitpick I have, but thats a small droplet in what is otherwise a sea of quality.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for such a sincere compliment. I do know I pronounce 'Bagration' incorrectly but to me, it is the most comfortable as I have Latinized it. Go ahead and use the video! :)
@ajohnymous5699
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich Thank you for the superb video and the permission to use it! Your praise is well earned. As for pronunciation, I know its difficult and took me a bit to get used to and my dad is Czech so even with the advantage of familiarity with Slavic words/pronunciation it was a bit of a challenge. Prokhorovka is one of my favorite words to say, it just feels nice on the throat and it led to my Polish professor in my WW2 complimenting me, an in turn the students next to me asked how to pronounce things and tutor them on the material since we had quizzes every week that you had to write the answers for instead of multiple choice and they had a hard time with it while I would make A's on them. I've also had the advantage of having my best friend I met through Hockey and his family from Russia, pro-soviet but anti-Stalin, teaching me words in high school and fostered an interest in Russian/Soviet history. I figured Bagration would be one thing worth correcting for pronunciation as you have a Rokossovksy profile pic (my discords pic is Tukhachevsky since I share a birthday with him separated by exactly 100 years and I admire him as a commander), and Stalin has that quote stating "I have no Suvorov, Rokossovsky is my Bagration", which is surprising since Rokossovsky was associated and agreed with Tukhachevsky's armor theories and Stalin's hatred for Tukhachevsky might have been one of many factors for Rokossovsky's arrest. When pt.2 comes out, which I will donate money towards as I'd love to see this continued and will support this, I think that it would be worth noting briefly that Stalin had changed his approach to the war by giving more freedom to commanders that paid off. That being a factor in the change in Red Army performance from the "1st stage" to the "2nd" and "3rd stage"s of the war in the East. Stalin recognizing when his commanders initially put in place by favoritism/loyalty to him instead of their merit or competence leading to disaster, then shifting gears to replace commanders doing poorly with ones that have performed, as he had done with his friend from the Russian civil war, Kliment Voroshilov, and replaced him with Semyon Timoshenko during the Winter War, then again in the Great Patriotic War where commanders like Rokossovsky, Vasilievsky, Zhukov an the like instead of leaving things in the hands of Voroshilov or relying on Budyonny or Grigory Kulik. I know you know this already, I've seen your work outside of this video, your research is thorough and succinct. I know you'll make mention of Maskirovka's relevance as there were massive deception efforts to make the Germans unaware of the movement of men and material to that front, you've planted the seeds with the summary of deep battle and it will be elaborated on with pt.2 in how it was executed for Bagration. With just that, I won't be disappointed and neither will the audience. But adding that detail would preemptively answer questions like "why didn't Stalin just have Rokossovsky lead the army from the get-go?" or "where was he prior to this operation?", "why didn't the Soviets have more guys like this in charge?", "Why did Stalin trust him with this important operation when he was arrested during the trials?" and you can recommend the videos that currently exist or will exist where you go into detail about it without taking the focus off of the main point of Bagration. Your work is good and I'd like to see more of it, and while I can answer questions for my students, having this and pt.2 serving as a sort of introduction for the topic AND having your channel be something they can turn to outside of the classroom for homework and looking up your sources to help with their papers would be amazing. Thank you again for your video, permission to use it, and keep up the amazing work!
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
@@ajohnymous5699 I actually speak Czech A1-A2 but I still don't like over pronouncing or keeping faithful to translations as it doesn't feel organic. I wouldn't say Praha. Just Prague.I am just so humbled and honored that you've decided to do all this with your students. Contrary to popular belief, I am quite active on youtube but my current format makes my video production a bit slow. I am still in the experimental phase of my youtube channel and trying to boost my video production. Are you teaching A levels?
Oh yeah the wait has been worth it.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
I am happy you think that.
bagration wasnt decisive, germany was already screwed well before hand oh awesome video btw
A PBJ and celery and carrot sticks. Some chips and a pint of milk. My favorite bag ration.
Nice graphics for the video mate
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Meowric. Nice to see you.
Great video. Who do you think was the Best soviet general of ww2?
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
That is a very tough question as I view them holistically. I do like Rokossovsky a lot but I do recognize that Bagration wasn't his creation. Konev is a pretty good general and so is Zhukov but his sluggish performance in 1943 ruins his defense of Moscow for me.
Love WW2 history, thanks for your videos.
0:02 song?
Excellent video! Just one comment: I wouldn't call Beweigungskrieg a "bad" military doctrine, nor one only suited for 19th century warfare. Rather, I would say that it a doctrine completely unsuited for the war of attrition that germany found itself in on the eastern front. While fighting against western countries were the destruction or evelopment of army groups with an army incapable of sustained operations, Beweigungskrieg seems to be and effective choice. It's only when fighting an enemy with large (or at least larger) manpower reserves, with the ability to sacrifice ground for a better strategic position, and the failure to separate operational and tactical priorities from strategic reality that the german application of Beweigungskrieg falls short.
@Kriegter
4 жыл бұрын
I agree well that was what it's made for
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
this is a reasonable comment and I agree. Bewegungskrieg did work in the 19th century because 20th century warfare was all about attritional and operational warfare. However, we must remember that Fall Gelb was very risky.
Nice map, but I can’t hang up a poster in my home that displays the words “nazi germany” without context. “Soviet Union” text should be in white font to draw eyes, along with Allies so that people know it is a map of world at a specific point.
@BlitzOfTheReich
Жыл бұрын
the map is the context.
I wonder how you came to the conclusion that blasting your way through the toughest defence is better than the weakest point. I can see several drawbacks, the foremost being that you will have a lot more casualities yourself. I would realy like to know why you think this is a better approach?
@BlitzOfTheReich
3 жыл бұрын
It's not that it is a better approach. It's that the Soviet military did not base its doctrine on simply finding ways to bypass enemies. The Soviet objectives were quite pre-defined. It could have attacked the weakest points, but this would not have guaranteed the encirclements that happened.
@martinbruce8221
3 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich I must have understood you wrong then. Thanks for clearing it up.
You should do the battle of dneiper. Very interesting. Also another massive operations that involved cool strategies from each side. Like a chess!
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
I might do in the future!
@angelamagnus6615
3 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich Not to mention the chess master Manstein was involved!
Yeeaa! Goods guys are winning! :)
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
Stalin wasn't a good guy, but the Soviet people suffered too much in the war. :( Rokossovsky was alright.
Keep doing the good work
@BlitzOfTheReich
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Be sure to watch the first two parts.
@jasonharryphotog
3 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich will do
Second most: Manchurian campaign easily one of the most decisive operations in history
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
I agree, but the Pacific War was all but over when it popped up. It was decisive in solidifying deep battle, but not in really making it its own thing.
@TheBendablespoons
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich that's fair
7:09 Such great mousctache!
Finally
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
enjoy
I may be missing the distinction between german battle doctrine and soviet battle doctrine. They look pretty similar...
@BlitzOfTheReich
2 жыл бұрын
Deep battle relies on infantry for breakthroughs and doesn’t emphasise encirclement. German doctrine relies on mechanised units for breakthroughs and emphasises encirclement.
@modest_spice6083
2 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich This is somewhat wrong. Blitzkrieg is tactical, deep battle is strategic. Also, Red Army deep battle doctrine calls for mass artillery bombardment and mass armor spearheads to punch a breakthrough, with motorized and infantry units to exploit and widen the gaps. In addition, Bagration succeeded because the Red Army successfully baited the Wehrmacht into focusing on the Ukrainian front when the real action will begin in Belorussia, a prime example of maskirovka. The Red Army winning due to infantry charges is basically a Cold War myth.
Great stuff! Thanks from Germany.
@BlitzOfTheReich
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Be sure to watch the other parts.
WAIT by what you mean correlation of forces, you mean the oblique order?
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
the correlation of forces were literally statistically ratios comparing troop strengths.
@Kriegter
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich oh ok and the way the soviets would use it is by creating a local superiority via oblique order?
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say an olique order.
@Kriegter
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich concentration of forces maybe?
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
yes
Jesus these creators getting younger and younger. Na really tho it don't matter, just that youve got the facts straight and created one hell of a presentation! Good stuff
@BlitzOfTheReich
2 жыл бұрын
I’m nearly 30
Evry time it cuts my ear: Bag-ra-ti-ON was the name of the general, who fought against Napoleon invasion in 1812 !!
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
I am using the pronunciation of the Latin suffix ion. If you that's all that you want to complain about then go watch another video.
@maxspirin3945
4 жыл бұрын
Blitz Of The Reich No offense, it’s great video and I’m not complaining but thought you care to know how it pronounced correctly (it’s a proper name like Nike, Adobe and Gucci) which can be checked in dictionary or Wikipedia.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
@@maxspirin3945 I know how it is pronounced, but it is not natural to me and sounds out of place in regards to the phonics of the video.
Do not pronunce it "Bagrayshion", it is "Bagratyon" in honor of early XIX c. officer of Georgian origin. Stalin used to say "Rokossowski is my Bagration" , indeed he was his favored commander and top trusted man. Rokossowski was a 100% Polish man born in Warsaw, motivated by Polish patriotism throughout all his life.
@BlitzOfTheReich
2 жыл бұрын
be quiet
Good Good
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Subscribed dude .
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
thank you. be sure to share it with friends.
@bharathr3759
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich definitely , i love ur animation and explanation so much . Please develop ur animation still more
@bharathr3759
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich always supporting you , from INDIA
@bharathr3759
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlitzOfTheReich are u present in INSTAGRAM BRO
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
No I’m not but I’m on Twitter. Always love my Indian subs. New video is out by the way.
Good to have a nice review on this, the only thing bothered me that if you cover Bagration, please spell it not as "ration" but as "ra-tea-yon" (closest possible) - funny in online games like WoWs but more historically accurate in a history channel. Not a bag of rations...
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
calm down there
Deep battle emphasized "besieging" the enemy into submission, rather than annihilating them outright. This would not be feasible for Germany, given their need to finish the war quickly and the ability of the Soviet to hold out for an extremely long time. For example, the Siege of Leningrad held out for almost 2.5 years, tying up a huge portion of Army Group North in the city blockade that could have been used elsewhere and making them vulnerable to counterattack. In contrast, this is almost a non-issue for the soviets, as they have the sufficient amount of reserves to cover encircled enemy in the rear, whilst continuing their push in the front.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
absolutely correct. This is why the Soviets had a lot of the infantry and shock armies stay behind to contain encirclements.
Buen trabajo :-)
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
gracias pana!
Rokossovsky, the finest soviet general.
Bless your soul...you prenounced bagration correctly
Excellent. Can't wait for part two. One major reservation. At 07:25 you throw in a clip of Richard Tempest casting Stalin as a Marxist because he "considered the correlation of forces". The primary forces analysed by Marxists are based on the objective division of society into social class. Stalin's calculation was on "national" forces, a rejection of Marxism. The Stalinists' (not just Stalin) use of Marxist categories and vocabulary does not make them Marxist. The Stalinists chauvanist-nationlist socialism-in-one-country doctrine was a rejection of Marxism. The Russian revolution was carried out under Lenin's leadership on the basis of the of world socialist revolution. The Stalinists regime in Moscow killed more Marxists than any other, even the Nazis. The Nazis ascension to and easy consolidation of power in 1933 was only possible because of the Stalinist's "Third Period" policy. The fact that even after the catastrophe was undeniable they asserted the political line of the KPD was correct had everything to do with their self serving pragmatic "ideology", not Marxism. To admit a mistake would be tantamount to admitting Trotsky and the Left Opposition were correct. Anyone interested in this period should start with EH Carr's "Twilight of the Comintern". After Hitler was appointed Chancellor the first concern of the Stalinists was that Moscow could maintain good relations with Berlin.
@BlitzOfTheReich
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you to an extent but I will not get into the inner Marxist infighting where definitions of Marxism are tossed in the air. I will, however, say that the correlation of forces is found throughout Soviet battle reports.