The th11 update just shows how quick people are to bandwagon onto a hate train. Years down the line, things have completely worked out and progression's been the easiest it's ever been after the th16 update. But as soon as people hear something that may be 2% detriment to progression, they completely freak out. As bad as things may be, sometimes, we just need to trust the dev team.

@chillstoneblakeblast3172

5 ай бұрын

Similar thing is happening on this update. People are calling it P2W when the Progression for the ores is not nearly as bad as they are saying. Easiest way to max out is to rush which has always been optimal to maxing out.

@Razor1473

5 ай бұрын

To be fair supercell did legitimately do some goofs. They had to tweak some things before the game came to be similar to it’s current form. The loot drought was a very serious problem at the time, you could be in matchmaking for up to an hour at time before finding a base with any notable loot.

@easonbao6993

5 ай бұрын

@@Razor1473 Yeah that's true, clouding used to be a serious problem

@micahcampbell9178

5 ай бұрын

Th11 best and most athstetically pleasing th

@dustinduzgames1276

5 ай бұрын

Try saying that about vlash royale

If you keep complaining how TH 15 was difficult, look at time when TH 11 was the highest TH. There's no super troops, no siege machines, no e-drag, nothing good for the offenses. 3-starring max TH 11 was near impossible back then.

@darshans6321

5 ай бұрын

Completely agreed. Th15 was actually well balanced and If ppl stopped playing the game it may be due to the insane grind and not the difficulty

@spectrum5079

5 ай бұрын

​@@darshans6321It's likely because the defenses in th15 are complex, and so are the attacks. E-drags or SA blimp hydra are the only options for an easy 2 star. If you want a triple you have to opt for multi-phased attacks like qc, sui hero, or skelly donut.

@daboss4318

5 ай бұрын

Valkyries 5 and witches with decent warden were op on release, but once people adapted and upgraded everything (and with several nerfs to skeletons and warden), farming was actually hard. I remember those times, had to go for 4k for farming with league bonus

@David-yx9fm

5 ай бұрын

no, you just had to know some strats, back then you actually achieved something with a beautiful hybrid or qc lalo. now you get maybe a bad 2 star but you can use only yetis and clones in order to get a triple.

@mcw8947

5 ай бұрын

​@spectrum5079 As a th15 player, I have to disagree about edrag and sa blimb. The reason why people thought that these 2 strategies are not good for 3 star is because the one who used these are usually lazy attacker or just not skilled enough. There's a guy who got into top 100 in legends league with edrags, and if you ever seen a tournament streamed on coc youtube, many pros used SA blimp with Sbarb and tripled bases. But yeah I agree on "it's easy to get a 2 star".

dead bases weren’t gone from the game, in-fact the change to matchmaking made one of the best hidden strategies of all time. Overnight you’d see people drop and below 800 cups was only stacked bases that hadn’t been raided in years

@micahcampbell9178

5 ай бұрын

Who calls trophies though

@lisavauhti7675

5 ай бұрын

I've had few of lower th9s untouched for 2 weeks around that trophy range. Matchmaking is just super retarded and it would throw me basically only active villages with no loot

How to not remember the financial crisis of th11 I couldn't even feed my barbs

@LionsHeart3.1.3

Ай бұрын

😂

Thier were another reason: Troops cost elxer Spell cost elxer And if you atack a base with less elxer but a good amount of gold it was a bad trade for you

@ivanet0636

5 ай бұрын

That wasnt a thing of that update, it was something that was in the game from the start, I remember my dragon army costing 400K every time that I had to cook it

The th11 era also saw the transition from old school attacks like gowipe and valk spam to the emergence of modern strats including hybrid and pekka smash.

I hated when they ended TH snipping back then. But now, when I look back, it was a good thing to do for larger interest and fun for the game.

I actually hated the Eagle artillery and 3x damage to golems change the most

@AmazingJayB51

5 ай бұрын

I hated it too but it adds to the strategy now. I try to take it out as fast as I can or avoid bases that have so deep where I can’t get to it.

@chinmaysawant9275

5 ай бұрын

I hate it even today more than monolith but in positive way 😅

Pre TH11 is when I first got into Clash. It was something that I didn't quite notice until way after it was gone but with many I'm glad they were implemented. The Eagle Artillery is one of my favorite defenses and the whole thing with the farming was much better though there are times I wish it was the old way. Though I was on break during the gold drought, its something that today I don't see happening due to the amount of ways to get recourses and the amount of recourses you'd get so its a definitely and improvement from back then.

This update made the game much more enjoyable if you’re new. The update encouraged people to stay at a rank where people of your town hall or higher are located. The easiest fix to not gaining enough loot from seal clubbing newer players was just to rant up to your level.

I don’t really see what’s wrong with any of these changes? Making it where you actually have to protect your th and attack doesn’t seem bad.

@MasterCWG

5 ай бұрын

You had to be around back then, it was chaos

@fjaps

5 ай бұрын

​@@MasterCWG i was around back then and i still don't get it? They made it so you had to play the game to progress on the game

@Theunfriendlyneighborhoodman

5 ай бұрын

​@@fjapsthese fools are just mad they can't abuse the system anymore

@edmundblackaddercoc8522

5 ай бұрын

​@@fjapsit was a terrible update, they dropped it then went on Xmas holidays for 2 weeks ignoring the issues.

@MasterCWG

5 ай бұрын

@@fjaps do you not remember how bad the economy was when they removed farming bases and removed dead bases after 2 months? There was a solid 1-2 months where there was 0 loot in the economy, no dead bases, and farming bases were removed, it lead to the review bomb you saw in the video. I was actually one of the ones who review bombed lol. It's hard to explain how angry people were back then without being there. It was a lot of things that happened at once to destroy the Clash economy. Supercell has fixed the issue since, adding Loot recovery from being raided, adding the Treasury, adding more war loot and 100 other ways to get loot

Ngl th16 lookin like a clash knockoff 💀

@ravisingh-uk9wq

4 ай бұрын

So fu*king true

@dorianpompa8409

2 ай бұрын

yeah fr, most of the things they added since like th13 seem like something you will find on reddit fan ideas or on bootleg copies from early-mid 2010s when coc was at its peak

The TH11 update was the end of the golden age of coc. Don't get me wrong I think the game is better today however it ended the versatility of the game. Remember when that brandon guy won something like 20k battles in one two week season or when that one guy climbed to titan league as a TH2? Also remember sub200 farming. War was interesting too. I recall war being interesting too. I remember the meta being top TH9 players two starring the TH10 bases where the TH10s would drop down and 3 star the TH9s. Then the next meta became engineered bases lowering war weights. The game couldn't stay that way forever, but it was certainly a golden age for clash.

@wsky6315

5 ай бұрын

What you explained is an imbalanced exploited game. That’s not the golden age of coc

@Riyozsu

5 ай бұрын

That just showed how easy it was earlier. New content was always going to make the game more challenging for people. That's like saying the golden age of the sword ended because the guns were made. I think the golden ages were when clan wars and cwl were made.

@dlrowmotemoclew

5 ай бұрын

@@Riyozsu Clan wars yea but CWL not so much. Hear me out on this. Arranges Wars were begged for from the very beginning. Since supercell didn’t give it, the community figured out how to arrange them themselves. Organizing these wars took a lot of planning, cooperation and praying 🤣. I feel like that brought the competitors closer together. When they finally gave us Clan wars, it seemed like all the major clans and players slowly faded away from the competitive scene. The back and fourth trash talking on twitter leading up to a spin, Hunting other clans (figuring out their spin time and war weight to match up with them without their knowledge. Modder clans were known for this 💀💀) and over all working together. Finally got what we wanted and simply pushing a button eliminated all of this lol.

@ASMRPeople

5 ай бұрын

Perhaps I wasn't clear on the point. The game is better today however in some aspects the game was better back then. War was more of a team effect as said below clans had to collaborate more. Also when mentioning the TH2 in titans it was certainly an exploit, but it made the game interesting similar to how exploits make speedrunning interesting. It was arguably the golden age because that time period was the peak of active users. I'll admit that was partly due to the age of the game, not to new not to old.

@lisavauhti7675

5 ай бұрын

Remember doing one army for 1 and half hours? Spells took 3hrs anyway but were lowered a bit later to about 1h at lvl5 spell factory. That was already big reason why people sucked at this game for so long and without friendly challenges it made the need to learn new unbearable. Now just repeating what J. Allen Brack said at blizzcon 2014 - "you think you do but you don't" , regarding your nostalgia

Like always, I understand why the community got upset, but oldschool farming was not healthy for the game

As someone that experience the TH 11 Update on its launch date and why “it was considered” as the worst update ever : - They started to change how loot work , so it will go by % rather than by town Hall “sniping”. I am in for this change but the main problem was that the developers did not balance it well , causing a huge “problem” because there was no resources since the bonus was not there and the penalty of attacking a lower level town hall was higher - Oh and remember, you needed elixir to farm , so it was mainly Gold that you get. Not even bother to made other dark elixir troops cuz you gotta save them to keep upgrading heroes - Also TH 11 came and you needed to invest , and the Eagle Artillery as a defence was insane if you did not have max queen to deal with ir. - This also came during the holidays and Supercell probably did not do much to do a quick update to fix these problems , so yeah it was a huge pain to endure - Also this was a breaking point were Clash of Clans “lost popularity” , lost traction , and it seems that it lost its “prime and peak” because of one single update. - Personally for me , the TH 11 update push all the casual players away , and it pretty much “rewarded” those who gem everything.

@edmundblackaddercoc8522

5 ай бұрын

Spot on, folk have goldfish memory's these days.

Town hall 11 definitely had a glow up over the years

My least favorite update of all time was the Builder Base update in May 2017. This new base was supposed to be this next big thing but 6.5 years have passed and it feels completely useless and nobody even bothers to upgrade it because what's the point? This update had so much hype and all it has done is be a waste for everyone.

Bro, you're a legend, since you talked about TH11 in your recent video, I got really curious about what made this TH so bad and went searching for more information but there wasn't a single video I could find about the topic, thank you for that, your videos are VERY informative, it's amazing

@ivanet0636

5 ай бұрын

I havent heard a single opinion of this brain dead that makes any sense, his th15 video doesnt have any good point to call it the worst th, in fact, its one of my favourite ones and th11 wasnt considered bad at all, it changed a lot of the meta and erased boring strategies such as free town halls

2:15 clash of clans players when they have to play the game 💀

I had just started playing a bit before TH11 and I immediately wanted to get it as soon as possible. Of course, being quite new, I had no idea about all the development stuff and meta things at the time, i was just playing a game for fun. After i had taken quite a long break where i played maybe once every few weeks. (2017-20ish) i have my Town Hall 11 nearly maxed, (just short on DE) i am happy with my progress and i dont think i will upgrade to TH12 for quite a while.

The old th10 meta was to attack with GoWiPe and have lightning spell, which you'd need to drop as 3rd spell on the defending witch to kill her because that was how lightning worked back then it struck wider area if not used in that spell drop order or otherwise it couldn't kill the witch

It made you grind more, a lot more, or pay the money to progress, lots of money, that was the intended reason for that change.

The worst one was making the town hall a resource building imo. Having to put the town hall inside means we had less walls for the rest of the important buildings.

I have a Th11 Base with very minimal Defences but all my resources, Camps, and unique items are or were maxed. Farming was different back then.. It was passvily fun to see a very mininmalistic base fully maxed. Right now because my base has low defence I get 3 Star -800K gold 8hr shield.. I pretty much come out negative if im not raiding anyone's bases.

Best townhall

@Mands1989

5 ай бұрын

I personally think it’s the second best TH, I think town hall nine was the best

@Razor1473

5 ай бұрын

@@Mands1989 Th12 is the new th9 imo.

@Razor1473

5 ай бұрын

@@Unsolved-sv9zw Yeah that’s why it’s the new th9. Both are overall pretty fun and balanced town halls offense wise. However they both had an awful grind. The hero grind at th9 say, 6-7 years ago was the worst. It’s baby easy now though, but it was comparable to current th12 grind, it’s when the game gets serious.

@Aakash-up2ze

5 ай бұрын

@@Razor1473i maxed my th12 in less than 5 month without playing much( less than 20 min )… upgrading now days have become too easy … bcz of lot of resources present in game…

@ernestregia

5 ай бұрын

Now it's really fun to play TH 11, except when it was the highest TH

Old clash with th 10 being the last th was fun times. I love the updates that are being made now

The Root Rider could ride me

@rake10

5 ай бұрын

this video isn’t even about th16 💀

@ayowdf

5 ай бұрын

fr

What people are forgetting is the personal break timer was added during this update, and there were glitches with it, supercell dropped the update and went on vacation.... was nearly a week before the game was fixed.

I never made it to town hall 11, but I agree with whatever you're saying

u forgot to mention u had to stay online most of the time in order to farm loot which was tedious on top of that the limited play time that got removed

I stop playing shortly after th11 update. Came back some time after th12 update

@sparks2429

5 ай бұрын

I quit because of the Th11 release. I didn't join back until 2021 and suddenly I wasn't hot shit as a max TH9 anymore 😂

@hell1942

5 ай бұрын

Well, do you regret quitting? Doesnt seem as bad now, atleast to me

@sychoxxxx

5 ай бұрын

@hell1942 nope. Didnt regret it, it was quite boring during th11, progression was slow, a lot of my clan mate quit. I came back after the cwl update, it help progression a lot. I am th16 now.

@mungus42069

4 ай бұрын

Quit when th11 was max, just a newly upgraded th 10, came back just this clashoween. Gotta say, im quiet shocked about the auto upgrade. I came back to a maxxed th10 base. Now im th12 since i rushed it during hammer jam for the walls

It’s kind of a shame because TH11 is my favourite authentic design for any Town Hall. I love the stone castle look.

I'm pretty sure Th16 will take its place as the most controversial update ever. The Reddit is on fire over it

@edmundblackaddercoc8522

5 ай бұрын

Yup, another nightmare

@kelvin4910

4 ай бұрын

it's good tf, they need to buff defense again and nerf the hero equipment and that's it

I just completed TH11 and it was amazing 🤩🤩

I quit the game for 6 entire years because of that update. Supercell lost hundreds of thousands of players like me because of that stupid change. Easily the worst change they ever made and I still think they still should revert it to this day.

See, I get why they did that. Yet, oldschool farming was really fun! I liked it a lot. Also the loot reduction. It makes sense- but it was annoying as hell. That was also the time when the "gold III gobarch" era ended. If you played back in the day, pretty much everyone who farmed was chilling in low gold attacking with goblins, archers and barbs only. Oh man... good old days.

i personally stopped playing when they made TH sniping not work anymore. I just wanted to casually level up my place, i was never an attack enjoyer

I actually really liked the th11 updateeven though it was super sad for me to leave oldschool farming behind

I remember when this update came out, the outrage was insane. And the economy was worse than I've ever seen in the games history. Many thought the game would die back then, but here we are 😂

What I learn of this is that people bitch about everything…

I see this as an absolute win (I'm town hall 7)

Next one will be when they introduce event pass for xmas and lny..

global chat was only good for inviting, other than that it was jsut a bunch of people asking any girls for pictures of themselves. best chat always will be clan chat and talking to your comrades

What i hated the most is not allowing us to switch account easily and adding supercell id to it. Switching gmail was very convenient there was no need to remove it.

@LloydTheZephyrian

3 ай бұрын

They literally have a button in game to let you easily swap your accounts. It's even more convenient.

Waiting for video on how useless heros are when you don't have books or hammers for upgrading

TH11 came out 8 years ago and I just upgraded to it like 3 days ago - I started playing COC when it first came out but this is just a reflection on how awful their customer retention is. Nice video! TH11 aesthetic wise is my fav and most likely will stay here for a LONG time

Snekey gooblins : I am i a joke to you?

@AsuraVGC

5 ай бұрын

Sneaky goblins wasn't a thing back then

@user-ph3qd9xx2k

5 ай бұрын

Oh

@edmundblackaddercoc8522

5 ай бұрын

You obviously don't remember 'gob knife'

Clash of clans fects-use your hero position your heros will be will be max level acording to your th level

They messed up townhall 16 becsuse the potions take longer to make

2015 COC is hard to get loot! Because if you train army your elixir will be drop and more challenge is you need big loot elixir to upgrade your troop! But now they take out training army elixir! You can raid without any elixir unlike 2015 my base was completely zero elixir, dark E and Gold! I can not train troop or use hero!

I never understood the hate it got

if you don't complain, they're going to mess up the game

why is this guy so underrated

I left the game when i saw eagle

im one of those who quit after th11 update😂😂😂

Ah yes the dark times of the Th11 upgrade. I was there and it was beatifull still cant understand after so many years why the fuck it was so controversial.

Then you look today, TH11 is in my opinion, the most fun th ever made with all the new content it has compared to th10 and below. I remember rushing my lab in 2020 just to upgrade to th11

Those that hated this update are probably the same people that hated the restriction of how many resources you could get from raid medals. The point of the game is to farm loot, namely by taking resources from others. Putting your TH outside the base just to get an easy shield seemed pointless and defeated the purpose of the game, same with buying large amounts of loot from the trader. The update worked out fine in the end, especially since progression became easier with each new TH.

@LloydTheZephyrian

3 ай бұрын

I think the difference is that with raid medals, you still have to put effort into it. Instead of "doing less of A to make A easier", it's more like "putting your effort into B to make A easier".

Sounds like people just wanted loot for putting in no effort or exploiting game mechanics

I trust the coc dev team more than any other dev team

Why did COC get rid of global chat?

@LloydTheZephyrian

3 ай бұрын

Lots of scammers and predators used it a lot.

Their service is horrible, i havent had as much of a horrible expirence in a support service as much as this one i got. 4 Days of waiting and keeping the updates to try and get my account unlocked, it was locked for suspicious activity. I went to chat with them and the support is just bots answering generic answers :3 I put 300$ on this game in past year and they cant verify their players who even put money, they really are a cash grab aswell because if u think about it u can just wait 3-4 years and gettin to th16 should be less time.. cuz if it doesnt.. well everyones ganna end up quitting because u dont wanna try get to th20 in 20 years .. Help :3

Many player of clash of clans now a days can't appreciate the easy-going of the game unlike the old days, its a hard to the bone, troops have cost, long training time, high building and troop cost, no potion and books at the time.

@Riyozsu

5 ай бұрын

It's called progress. People will find 3 starring th15 easy a few years later.

@kelbosskii9769

5 ай бұрын

Took me a year to max my heroes at TH9. u guys dont know the struggle it took us after a hero hit Level 15 and it took a week for every upgrade. You guys have it easy.

Nice vid

I wouldn't call that controversial if they ended up fixing the hated parts of the update.

Time to update this video 💀 p2w goes brrrr

❤

People who play clash royale KNOW what a bad update look like. Coc updates are often controversial but never BAD, for example the builder base rework people complained even tho it was just better.

@LloydTheZephyrian

3 ай бұрын

I do admit that while Builder Base 2.0 is an improvement, it didn't exactly fix the biggest flaw I think it has. Everything is so expensive, and you only have 2 builders at most. Combine this with your only real way to get any resources is by getting strong wins on offense and defense, and it's agonizingly slow. At least in the home village, you can still walk away from a failed attack with a nice bit of loot.

Why do you keep being so negative about the game in every video you make... respect the grind tho keep it up

Th11 best and most athstetically pleasing th

@edmundblackaddercoc8522

5 ай бұрын

Balls, it looked like an ice caked muffin😂

It was a sh#t show considering they were making millions

why you hating so much?

Unpopular opinion but most of these changes are good lol

#HAVOC

Among us

@angusyan5452

5 ай бұрын

No

@Mands1989

5 ай бұрын

@@angusyan5452among us?

sus

2nd

1st

@Retro_Omega

5 ай бұрын

Who asked

@Mands1989

5 ай бұрын

You are not first

@AsuraVGC

5 ай бұрын

@@Mands1989 I'm the one who typed 1st 1st

@keralaplays1580

5 ай бұрын

@@AsuraVGC💀 tf

3rd I guess