The ‘more detail’ there is on the Voice, the ‘scarier’ it will seem
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese doesn’t want to give us the detail on the Indigenous Voice because the more detail there is, “the scarier this thing will seem”, says former prime minister Tony Abbott.
“The last thing we want to do is further divide our country, further entrench separatism and further gum up government and that is exactly what this thing will do,” Mr Abbott told Sky News host Peta Credlin.
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I don't believe that all Australians owe anyone an apology.
Shove your absurd proposition albo.
He is untrustworthy. If you have nothing to hide you hide nothing
Read the fine print, ambiguous changes to constitutional land rights? 'The Voice' will inevitably open the dam walls on a plethora of Native Title claims which will result in every property owner in Australia having to pay rent. It will be a rent tax. It means every Australian home owner and landlord will pay an extra tax (rent tax). They say we are on stolen land and therefore you are 'renters' a sign of goodwill to pay extra tax. It will depend on the value of your home. If you have say a 1.5 million house in Sydney you will probably pay 1 to 2% rent tax meaning 10 to 20k per year. Landlords will simply increase rent for tenants to cover the cost. Where will this money go? It will feed a bureaucracy. New developments will also pay extra fees to develop on 'stolen land’.
Voting no
Australia and It's Constitution Represents One Of Greatest Nations on Earth.
@MrMcdougalls
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Australia is not a nation...... never has been or lawfully
Vote NO NO NO
Labor will probably make it compulsory for every school kid to say 'SOrry' each morning at school assembly before class starts' we acknwoledge and say sorry to the indiginous people whose stolen land we on "
@johnschannel449
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@@insanehuckles12qld3 So if my ancestors were killed in Europe 200 years ago by the french or germans would l be able to get an apology or compensation from the french or german government, they would laugh at me if l asked. It was that was the British government that did that colonised Australia , the Australian government didnt exist until 1901,everything that happened before 1901 in the British governments fault, you need to take it up with the British government
@destinyangel5
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Yep for sure as it already is in lots of workplace meetings right now and has been for some time .
VOTING NOOOOOOOOO
@nihilist4184
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I like how the translation is the same. 😱 lmao as if all cultures didnt know the voice is completely stupid to start with. 🤣
AN AUSTRALIAN BILL OF RIGHTS Before THE VOICE BODY. AN AUSTRALIAN BILL OF RIGHTS Before ANY TREATY. NO AUSTRALIAN BILL OF RIGHTS! = NO VOICE TREATY! 🇦🇺💯% me....
I'll be voting no.
Instead of diversionary tactics what about Aussies who can't pay power bills and don't eat real problems in Australia I never thought the lucky country would turn on its own citizenship and treat its own people like dirt I guess mr yank does tell our prime minister to send all the money to wars and take the food from its own people's mouths who pay politicians top end lavish lives...
what about the decendants of convicts sent to AUstralia in chains to work as slaves just for stealing food to survive, they were killed and tortured and worked to death, what about a voice in parliament for the decendants of convicts, an apology and compensation, l think l have a convict ancestor , l want my voice in parliament , an apology and compensation
I used to like watching The Voice. Now it just gives me a headache.
If this gets up will we all eventually have to pay some rent or a tax to the all the indigenous people who claim to own Australian regardless if you rent or own a property just for living in Australia ?
So it's just a vote to prove who's woke and who isn't. And do you mind taking out 25 dollars a week of your wage to pay for aboriginal reparations.
@insanehuckles12qld3
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ITs NOT about Reparations it's about we Had this land before British came here and we don't get knowledge At any sort as we should. WE DIDNT CHOOSE TO GET SLAUGHTERED BY 10000s and Thousands By the government because they wanted to Build what today Australia is.
@rare6319
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@@insanehuckles12qld3 so when you say "we" I'm assuming you are aboriginal. So what gives you the right to lay claim for ownership of this land, what makes you so special. I'm from English decent so does that make me entitled to British land . No. Nobody owns any land it's everyone's equally, You are just typical of modern life a winging victim who always wants.
@insanehuckles12qld3
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@@rare6319 Na I don't want anything but I bet if you where A royal of British you would want Title of land and don't say you wouldn't buddy. The difference is that Aboriginal people are the royals of this land you can't say anything about that .
@insanehuckles12qld3
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@@rare6319 Like the Royals of England you can't tell me that they don't claim land at all And live in Big castles And eat Like king's while The British regulars people have to suffer and work there asses off to live a comfy life ? While they sit High mighty look down on people what makes them So Royal?
@rare6319
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@@insanehuckles12qld3 what part about nobody owns any land it's everyone's equally did you not understand. Buddy.
next there will be a ' pay the rent campaign' where we have to pay rent for living on aboriginal land, a compulsory rent payments for all non indiginous home owners, all proceeds go to lidia thorpe
@robertaustin6940
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It's not their land. Aborigines are not the first Australians, they wiped out the first Australians.
@johnschannel449
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@@robertaustin6940 yes and all the different tribes killed each other in tribal warfare but they never mention that
@robertaustin6940
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They also will not mention how aborigines slaughtered hundreds of shipwreck survivors along the north Queensland coastline during the 1800s.
@nihilist4184
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Exactly albanese wong and Thorpe are making me hate aboriginals because many of them who disagree with the voice aren't publicly protesting against albos voice just like the Australian Chinese arent protesting against their stupid govt.
@nihilist4184
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@Robert Austin well-founded considering we are decendants of the same inhabitants that built the pyramids. Aboriginals are just first squatters but they've contributed nothing as far as any worthwhile invention like electricity phones cars TV's washing machines etc all they've built on hundreds of years was a coat hanger that flew back and a long stick they blow into hardly much different than a bj.
Voting No
Aim for Equal Opportunity, not Equal Outcome. Assuring a section in government for a people group solely for the colour of their skin will only increase division and the discriminatory distinction between Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islanders and everyone else, essentially what Martin Luther King's 'I have a dream' speech was targeting against directly. A much better solution would instead be for schools and education systems in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander areas being improved and equipped with the same resources as the rest of the government schools. This also includes promoting cultures that contribute to individual success in concerned fields. An example of a culture that needs improving in these communities are family households, where 29% of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander families belong to single parent households, as opposed to the 15.9% for the entirety of Australia. That is just an example, but reserving a unique path to direct influence on government decisions for one race and not the rest, is clearly not a solution and is one of the main things the Civil Rights movement was fighting against.
Come back and take over the leadership Tony before it's too late.
We require a government that serves the people rather than politicians, and Australians must rise to the occasion. Enough is enough.
A simple question to ask is WHY ULURU? Based on what studies? Has the leftist media and education been im charge! What does consulting involve?
Governments private goons, they must be getting scared
Look at what's going on in Alice Springs, if you can't control mere children I'm not really interested in your advice on how to run our country
i used to think Albo was arrogant and pigheaded re the getting the voice up but increasingly it seems nefarious - he wants it to fail spectacularly
Peter Dutton has every right to ask for the fine print. There is a precedent from Labour that must be considered. In 1982 the Whitlam Labour Government established the National Indigenous Conference to develop a treaty between the Aboriginal Nations and Australia. This treaty sought to return sovereignty to Aboriginal peoples. This included original reserves to be acquired by the government and given as freehold to aboriginal peoples. Self-government for each tribal territory. Payment of 5% of GDP per annum for 195 years. The return of Forests and National Parks (already happening) Mineral rights to the land. Tax exemption for 195 years. The reservation of seats in Federal and State parliaments and a number of other cultural issues. There are a bunch of political extremists already involved in this Voice ready to be involved in further development of the Voice. Whitlam is one of Albanese's heros and it would not surprise me that he wants to be one step up on Whitlam. Albanese has not had a good track record in being truthful, so when he says "trust me", "all the detail will be worked out after the referendum", I would be very afraid. If any of this stuff is being considered, he would not want people to know about it.
My Question is what constitutes an Aborigine? To be Aboriginal you must be born here! That is a must. But I would argue is at what point does the gene pool end? It also is an issue when people born in England Claim to be Aboriginal ?? Surely if we rights over and above the rights of another Australians born here or migrant here that is a citizen. This is Racism ! I will also ask. We currently face the biggest threat to Australian safety. That threat is coming from China and the current leadership. I am sure there are many Chinese here that also have fears.. Remember it is Governments of Nations and Leaders that start war ! Not the people ! If Australia goes to war will the the 1 million Aboriginals be able to stop the invasion?? Was it the Aboriginal Race alone that saved Australia in WW11? Migrants have battled for Australian. The injured and killed in very high numbers. I also want to know how many Aboriginal people KNOW what this Voice means ? Very few I bet ! I have NO Idea, of the issues and yet The Labor Party and PM Albanese just say there is information out there WHERE ? Also if it is a constitutional matter it is a Legal Matter, which means the General Public has NO CHANCE TO UNDERSTAND ! This is ridiculous to be having this issue right at this time of threat! At this time of Power Crisis! Stop all this Rubbish Build Nuclear Power Plants we at least will have sustainable power for Business investment. As far as Super goes, If the unions are involved ( it's as bent as a nine bob note ! ). How about we get full details on all government Super payments and details of when it can be drawn down and used. All bonus payments to employees /politicians, Holidays and sick leave.. Because that is Australian Tax money paying for that.. Time to fess up! You ( Labor) chase Super that is belonging to the workers ? I ask where better do the working class get more of a return, in Super or by owning their own home which actually keeps up with inflation and more often allows a much better retirement. I believe the Labor/Union click are more interested in helping the Land Lords of rental properties. Rents have Never been hirer. But am I wrong that anyone that is unemployed or pensioner or other that does not own a home will get Rent allowance?? Which house owners DO NOT ! So tell me WHAT IS REALLY THE BEST INVESTMENT? I know because I am retired and I have seen where I have had the best result. Pay out your house loan. Then save so much more as prices rise. Check rents 1975 to rents 2020 45years. Then house price the same house in that time ! Does anyone at Sky read this ? Why is Sky not available on T.V in Cities? Ten has Chanels that just have the same few programs all day. Are we Australia not in Very Dangerous times? War, no power, No Dams, and much more. Times when T.V media is Socialist Left. Uni's socialist left. Freedom of speech controlled by overseas private companies Media is asleep at the wheel ? Allowing so much crap to just happen. What is stupid is they are Australians and they will be affected when it all falls DOWN ! I Warned people about the E.U. 2015 it wanted an Army? They poked the bear Russia. We see the result now! I now WARN Australia the threads are coming apart here. Violence is rising, deaths in our streets don't put your heads in the Sand ! Australia is being controlled from overseas and like sheep we follow. Wake up the road leads to Death and revolution! Which is never good for the people. We have weak minded idiots as Leaders. I am so concerned as I see NO ONE strong enough to make the right changes. No one to enact what is good for the Whole Nation and all the people. There is NO Party that can lead us out of this mess ! China will invade and soon. To be able to celebrate the 100 years of the CCP. Right now the West is using up its stocks of defence materials. Soon we won't have the power to even make a Doughnut ! Meanwhile China is building its war Machine. Do any of you know Sir Winston Churchills story?? He was defence minister of The U.K. But was sacked because he warned the House of WAR with Germany ! How did that work out ?
Countdown to Dutton supporting it… he’s gonna break Sky 😂😂😂
Dear Tony, please use the subjunctive. Tell us what 'would' happen, not what 'will' happen, if the proposal were to pass.
Awww, how cute. Former FBs chatting with each other on tv.
You have to realise though that All Aboriginal including my self don't want to be looked down on. We don't want unfairness. We don't want to be looked as The Monster. Because all we really did was try to defend our land that the British took and killed 10000s and 1000s of us for. So why do we have to To keep fighting for something that already belonged to us. We just want Knowledge ment. We don't want any of the crap that comes with it After we hopefully do Get that identifications. Aboriginal people Are looked down on ALOT like It's our fault For not fitting into Australian Culture today.
@vicgallimore6756
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Start by getting your facts right. 1000s and 1000s killed, really. You were to busy killing each other, and nothing has changed to this day.
@insanehuckles12qld3
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@@vicgallimore6756 haha ? Really mate what you think no other country has done that killing there own people. And btw it's called tribal wars? Yeah it's not a fucking Civil war yeah? Many country's have killed there own people for opposing The top dogs Rules? Or is it just the Aboriginals?
@vicgallimore6756
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@@insanehuckles12qld3 tut, tut, try to be civil and take care with your language.
@insanehuckles12qld3
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@@vicgallimore6756 haha is that all you got to say back? Sorry that I'm an Aussie and not a fancy Stuck up posh bitch That wants to talk like a British. And have to word my Wording right 🤣 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
@vicgallimore6756
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@@insanehuckles12qld3 sorry, I refuse to have an intellectual duel with an unarmed man. You are the very reason I will vote NO.
Tony rabbit 🐇 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Vote No,they already have voice its called democracy and if no one votes for them its called them being a shit leader that no one wants. Have you noticed why you are being prohibited from reading the actual bill, they say its to give them a voice but they shriek in fear once you ask them for the entire bill
if this gets passed everyone will just yolo and claim to be jewish or aboriginal
A vastly superior orator than Duddo who's much better than albanese, time to become the leader of the opposition and call out all of labour's absurdities.
Blar blar blar 🦕 Constitution recognition and consultation ❤️👌