Thank you, Phillippa Langley for YOUR discovery!

Without the enthusiasm and the dogged determination of Phillipa (the lady in this vid), none of this would ve happened

@RichardStrong86

Жыл бұрын

That woman was mental. Like she had some weird fetish for him.

@TWOCOWS1

Жыл бұрын

@@RichardStrong86 uh, a usual canadian dingbat!

Maybe he uncovered the bones - but to attribute a 'discovery' to him is a gross overstatement.

It was wonderful that the powerhouse behind all of this discovery, Phillipa Langley, was standing there when the fist leg bone was encountered. She deserves much more credit that she has been given. Her praise should be shouted loud and long, as she is, and was, the true discoverer of this monumental event in world history. Thank you Phillipa Langley. Doctor George Whitehead

@jerkfck

Жыл бұрын

BS

@seltaeb9691

Жыл бұрын

She got loads of credit on this BBC documentary, this is just a short clip that has been pinched from it. Don't get all worked up, watch the documentary.

@gusgus420

7 ай бұрын

Doctor, you should research before making comments

@newyardleysinclair9960

5 ай бұрын

She got a shit ton of credit. I'm literally reading a book about the princess in the tower from a book deal she got after this discovery

Why is there no mention in the title or text about Philippa Langley who led the search is standing right next to the male archaeologist as he digs? A significant oversight.

@maureenhallahan9336

Жыл бұрын

They are the experts, not Ms Langley. She raised the money of course but is NOT an archaeologist.

@maureenhallahan9336

Жыл бұрын

@Paul Denison I partly agree, Paul, BUT in the 80's there was another archeologist/reseracher who had often written that the likely remains were in GreyFriars Monastery, not the Augustianian 'Blackfriars' where someone had previously looked. I can't remember who he is but will find out.! Philippa Langley was dogged, determined and of course she was instrumental in all this.

@maureenhallahan9336

Жыл бұрын

@Paul Denison Well, I asked Richard Buckley, (head of ULAS ), some years later, why did They not look for Cardinal Wolsey who is said to be buried in Abbey Park, Leicester, where he died. Richard Buckley said that it was a) not the job of archaeologists to “look for famous people” and b) there is not usually the funding for it. So what Philippa and the Richard III Society did was to find the money. John Ashdown Hill was one of the historians whose name I forgot and who had traced Richard III DNA and the possibility that Greyfriars was his resting place.

@maureenhallahan9336

Жыл бұрын

@Paul Denison It has been interesting discussing this and clearly we have different views on the subject of who was most deserving. In the end, there was a successful and fascinating dig at that car park (which I happen to know as I live near the city). Credit to everyone who ‘found’ Richard III. I was sad when Ashdown Hill died. He paid personally for early DNA tests and was possibly miffed at not getting as much credit as Turi King. I assume you would agree!!

@sheilawhite8314

Жыл бұрын

she did it all as we all know from the film now out called the lost king

I know it's been said a million times by now probably, but history is so crazy. This dude was one of the most powerful people in the "world" at the time and after all this time he's just under a parking lot. Nuts.

@seltaeb9691

Жыл бұрын

Can't agree "world", the War of the Roses was a parochial affair. England & Europe yes, but the World was still isolated in regions like the Incas & Mayans, to China who were much more advanced than the Middle Ages in Europe tho the Cathedrals were stunning but in Richard's time they were still under construction. You have Asia too. We were still a backyard goings on & I think France & Spain were more powerful than Richard ever was. Henry VII was the one King who started to make England a powerhouse thru his craftiness, his son also got England on the map & Elizabeth 1 was the ONE who did make England a world top dog vying with Spain & France.

@damarh

9 ай бұрын

makes you wonder who is burried under the ground of the building you are in right now. doesn't it.

I clearly remember in the original documentary that Mathew Morris rolled his eyes at the idea that the remains were those of King Richard. Now that history has been altered that documentary is gone and this man is taking credit for the discovery. Shame. Phillipa Langley was the true believer not Morris.

@fastra3621

Жыл бұрын

I think this might redress the facts... kzread.info/dash/bejne/dJuqmK2BlaSslbw.html

@michaeltaylor1864

Жыл бұрын

The film will expose all involved and should be charged in a court of law, the University are a disgrace.

@caitlin329

Жыл бұрын

You can watch the documentary to this day. It's been up on KZread for 4 years. There are also interviews with all involved, including Langley (as she was involved throughout the entire process, despite what some seem to insist retrospectively) She also was really weirdly upset and a bit defensive about him having a curved spine, which means nothing about him. As Simon Farnaby pointed out to her, he could've had a curved spine and still been a nice guy.

Leicester University wouldn't find a bone in a butcher's shop without Philippa! 🤣

@derekgillan7314

Жыл бұрын

lol

Amazon Prime has a movie about this, and Phillipa. Called The Lost King. She most definitely got the credit in the movie, and the Society too. And, how she was all but ignored and barely tolerated by all the "experts" in the field.

That’s crazy. After over 500 years later, history was made again

@marioskublan7273

2 жыл бұрын

Yes we finally got a European Union

@mikeycraig8970

Жыл бұрын

@@marioskublan7273 And WE left it!

@seltaeb9691

Жыл бұрын

He actually should be locked up & put on trial for child murders of 2 Princes. Only the cheating robbing royalty that still goes on today.

Let's not forget that Philippa Langley knew it was Richard all along, and everyone else on the dig insisted the skeleton was not important at all, right up to the moment they found the curved spine. She also funded it all. Disgraceful that a bunch of chancers still try to steal her thunder.

@caitlin329

Жыл бұрын

That's not true. The Richard III Society itself has an FAQ, and you can watch the entire thing in documentary form. The Society's website breaks down all the funding; 'The principal funding for the original three-week project came from the Richard III Society and its members including a £5,000 contribution from its Chairman. The Society’s contribution represented nearly 53% of the original project’s total funding. Leicester City Council also put together a £5,000 contingency budget, in case it was required. The preliminary research and three-week project which found King Richard cost £32,867. Richard III Society, members and other Ricardians £17,367 (52.84%) University of Leicester £10,000 (30.43%) Leicestershire Promotions £5,000 (15.21%) Leicester Adult Schools £500 (1.52%) The remaining funding of £716 from the International Appeal (see below) was paid to ULAS by Langley at the end of the dig for costs including those associated with the recovery of the King’s remains after she had instructed exhumation. As detailed earlier (see 16 above), the GPR survey cost £5,043. Dr Ashdown-Hill’s research work to uncover the genetic descendant of King Richard III and reveal the king’s mtDNA sequence cost the historian about £3,000. And a bursary of £1,140 was awarded to Langley by the Richard III Society for the cost she incurred for the Archaeological desk-based assessment.'

@caitlin329

Жыл бұрын

You can see that the skeleton was treated as potentially significant even in this video, even though the experts quite reasonably were quite restrained throughout the process (better not to jump the gun generally in these things)

@nickgreen4731

Жыл бұрын

@@caitlin329 What I mean is, she organised all that funding. None of it would have happened without her. I have no idea how she knew Richard was there, it's a wildly unscientific leap of intuition, a freak leap of faith, and she had no reason to be right... Yet she was. I can't explain it. But the University has no right to try and claim any credit for the project. They wouldn't have lifted a finger without her.

@nforne

8 ай бұрын

​@@nickgreen4731 They knew where to look thanks to the work of historian John Ashdown-Hill. He was also behind the tracing of Richard’s Mitochondrial DNA, paying for its sequencing out of his own pocket.

Very cool. I suspect the calm and measured demeanor belies the rather thrilling rush of adrenaline they must have been truly experiencing in that Carteresque moment.

@boojay111

4 жыл бұрын

It is the British way, no grotesque Americanisms or hype

@edd.8261

4 жыл бұрын

At that moment they do not know yet. That is the first day of digging, and finding buried people in the church ground is expected. Only days later they came back and collected the bones.

@StudeSteve62

3 жыл бұрын

They do not, here, know that this is Richard they've found...but they must have had it in mind that it could be, and surely their minds were racing...

@PlannedObsolescence

2 жыл бұрын

@@boojay111 I'm sorry you feel that way.

@ds1868

2 жыл бұрын

@@PlannedObsolescence no need to be sorry, it is the truth. And you know it.

Where is the original video LU? Shame on you for protecting the awful behaviour of your staff.

It's so interesting watching a discovery that was too good to be true but it was.

I find this so fascinating. History is fascinating.

@dorcasherr

5 ай бұрын

Great and exciting piece of history, but SHAME ON LEICESTER, for taking the credit as if they had done it all.

At this point, they don’t know it is Richard. Did no one take a video when it begins to dawn on them that this may indeed be Richard?

Who found Richard III? Morris may have dug him up but he did not find him

@michaeltaylor1864

Жыл бұрын

No, Philippa Langley, the University claimed they had, but had nothing to do with it, they are a disgrace.

@maureenhallahan9336

Жыл бұрын

Yes he DID! Amateurs would not know where to dig.

@nforne

8 ай бұрын

​@@maureenhallahan9336 The amateurs did the historical research that showed the archaeologists exactly where to dig. The amateurs spent many years persuading the authorities to allow it. Before approaching the university for assistance the amateurs contacted BBC Time Team, who turned them down (bet they’re still kicking themselves!) Finding someone to actually dig the hole wasn't easy. The amateurs also spent years tracing Richard's living descendents and had his mitochondrial DNA sequenced. Who deserves the credit for that? The guy in the DNA lab?

Please show your respect formiss Langley and reward her with a honoury doctorate,the queen awarded her.

@coaxelectrons531

Ай бұрын

Who is that?? Another corpses?

Thank you Philippa Langley.

@coaxelectrons531

Ай бұрын

¿Quién es eso?

@bvillafuerte765

Ай бұрын

@@coaxelectrons531 La persona que descubrió la tumba.

Phillipa Langley not University Of Leicester

Amazing how all that bldg work over centuries just didn't touch him.

Give PHILLIPA LANGLEY the proper credit, PLUS, SIR KING RICHARD THE THIRD SOCIETY !!!!!!

A woman found these legs. Not him. These darned fancy pants people taking credit just because they are allowed to. Seriously shameful of the gov to try to take this away.from the real king finders.

@coaxelectrons531

Ай бұрын

Shut up

What happened to the original documentary from 2013? Can't find it anywhere

@JohnWickkkk

3 ай бұрын

In my vault

Did they recover the feet?- it was implied (I think ) in the feature film that the feet had been dug out by the excavator and was amongst the spoil.

Phillopi Langley found King Richard These people did not tell the truth Langley was honored by the queen for finding Richard III

rest in peace , not a leicester uni have anything do with it

I find it incredible that the R above the grave was never investigated

King Richard is my 1st cousin 13 times removed..

What is an articulated skeleton?

@ioandragulescu6063

6 ай бұрын

I think he means a full skeleton, with the bones in their relative proper anatomical positions, not just a few, maybe scattered or bundled together.

I just would have thought trained archeologists would have been much more careful whilst digging and covering the bones. Like more aware of the history. May just be me?

@caitlin329

Жыл бұрын

You can't be too careful, otherwise you'd never get anything done, unfortunately.

@justin15157

Жыл бұрын

That makes no sense though Caitlin. They have found the bones and after he does he just stabs carelessly almost. Sure you can have some lax sometimes but not WHEN you’ve found the bones finally. Geez

And QE2 didn't allow his burial in Westminster Abbey, what a disrespect.

@justin15157

Жыл бұрын

He’s catholic so he wouldn’t have wanted that

@Moose.-vy5ye

8 ай бұрын

The cathedral that he's now buried in is Anglican. It is archeological custom to re-bury found bodies in the nearest consecrated ground.

Vengo acá por el hilo de Twitter

Kinda crazy to think such a famous king was killed and then just left where he fell 🫤

@musicloverlondon6070

4 ай бұрын

Not at all; they just buried him quietly in the old friary. It wouldn't have been in the Tudors' interest to create a Plantagenet monument as Henry Tudor's claim to the throne was very tenuous - hence why he married Elizabeth of York, daughter of Edward IV, a Plantagenet king.

He’s digging pretty recklessly for an archeologist it seems

Aquí por el hilo de Twitter 🖐️☺️

Job done! 😂

Why was he buried under a car park?

@adamcoe

7 ай бұрын

15th century people knew that the invention of the car was just around the corner so they just wanted to make sure they got a prime location, close to the shops

This is Philippa Langley's discovery and NOT that of University of Leicester. You might want to say Philippa's name when discussing HER discovery.

@coaxelectrons531

Ай бұрын

Who the fuck is that? Reread the title

All my praise goes to Philippa Langley

I came from Twitter to see Philippa Langley's discovery

Phillipa Langley's place in all of this is not prominent enough.

Those archeologists didn’t believe those were the bones of Richard, it was Phillipa Langley that insisted those leg bones were of Richard. She fought so hard to get this accomplished and the professionals then took most of the credit. I love the film line where her husband asks what she needs and she says “a penis” and he says he’d gladly give her his… and those words sum up their relationship as well as the misogyny throughout the film.

Purposely stole Philippa's thunder

Now we know what a lying Mathew Morris looks like. No mention of Philippa Langley MBE.

@georgewhitehead8185

Жыл бұрын

I agree, without Philippa Langley there would have been NO plan, or even the idea, to try and find King Richard III. Shame on all of those "hanger on's" and "johnny come lately's." Philippa Langley deserves all of the credit for finding King Richard III. All of those other people were just "identifier's" and then they tried to claim all of the glory. They are usurper's plain and simple. Dr. George Whitehead

@jerkfck

Жыл бұрын

Imagine simping electronically.

@justin15157

Жыл бұрын

Imagine being so stupid blah that stating facts is called simping. Here’s another fact for you, you’re a f’in idiot

I think it's wack, that we dig up the dead. It's also wack that they make wild ass claims that it's someone they only to to exist from books. What a terrible race we all are.

@justin15157

Жыл бұрын

It’s history and he was real. Quit being dumb

And at that moment ...they had no idea who they were gawkin at lmao.

Thank you, Phillippa Langley for YOUR discovery!