special forces, secret services: here you got modern ninjas

This is like the conversation that James Bond had when he first met Q in Skyfall. Does anyone remember that scene?

Mate. We just did a whole curriculum on body language and micro expressions in my Executive Protection school. It reminded me of what Natori was talking about in the Shoninki about face reading. It was very, very interesting. So from reading the historical manuals , Shoninki, Shinobi Hiden, Bansenshukai etc.. and my job in the security industry, I'm actually starting to wonder how much historical Ninjutsu can be compartmentalized and then utilized in a modern format, in a job sector like mine. I would love to know your thoughts on this and maybe discuss it more. Cheers mate! I hope you and the family are well.

@wildwaymartialarts

8 ай бұрын

In the security field myself and I honestly found a similar usefulness to the field from Ninjutsu principles. Of course adapted.

I will say modern ninjutsu is like CIA and S.W.A.T or military. Problem is the normal guy is nothing like that, budget is simply to big ! But can we practice some of those skills ? ABSOLUTELY! the skills for a modern ninja would be something like this, breaking and entering, lock picking, copy keys, cloning RFID keys, hacking and or stealing computers and files and important information/documents. Then infiltration skills, demolition skills, climbing and rappelling. Scouting and spying on people. Swimming, diving and be able to drive different kinds of transportation. Knowing more than one language, politics and business and have good connections with serious people. We can also practice the art of camouflage and use masks, fake eye browse, nose, hair and moustache. Off course we must also have some kind of self defense training against our enemies. And we need survival skills as well. I mean the list goes on, but most importantly is that you know people, some that have these skills or can learn them. Then you can make team. Problem is that good people dont really do this, so criminals would be a better choice.

@liquiddw2

Жыл бұрын

I came here to say this except for the last part

@MarcusArmstrong037

Жыл бұрын

I was 100% with you on this comment up to the last point. Good people should absolutely know these skills too. For the hacking example, there are professional Red Hat pen-testers whose job it is to breach a company's security system s that they can find and patch the holes in their security. One of the best ways to protect yourself from malicious actors is to know the tactics and techniques that they would use to attack you. The locks I use to keep my valuables secure are good because I learned lockpicking and therefore know how to choose better locks. My home network is secure because I learned cybersecurity and how to breach networks that are not secure. My online accounts are secure because I learned the social engineering used to gather information and passwords. It's not just criminals that have these skills.

It can be said that what separates Ninjutsu from other schools of special warfare is that it is a way of approaching the conflicts and difficulties of life overall as a Way. In that context its timeless.

The mindset and philosophy the ninja may be modernized. What do I mean? -Obscuring truth -Hiding in plain sight - Using clothing to mold your opinion of me -Using scent to manipulate others -Detecting lies - Pattern recognition, social recognition -Inflicting doubt on you - Deflection of information from myself to others - Obscuring language, ( hmmm very familiar). What else? - Some stoicism? - Situational awareness - Survival skills - Physical fitness - Endurance training? - Military strategy and tactics - Psychological warfare - Civil Affairs stuff - Spotting weaknesses in people and weaponizing that - Scouting , Observation etc - Water training - Basic Infantry skills? - Know and understand people, cultures, customs - Street skills - Adapting to new situations - Gray Man - Communication skills - Corporate Espionage/ Secret Shopper - Double Speak - Machiavelli stuff

@gabrieldawa6221

9 ай бұрын

Thank you.

It seems like a catch 22 situation. On the one hand, when you describe what modern ninjutsu would be, you describe methods that already exist in our modern times, but you do so to say that it would be too expensive to modernize ninjutsu. For example, there are jobs where you are trained in disguises, languages, escape & evasion, torture resistance, surveillance, counter-surveillance, covert and surreptitious entry, lock-picking, safe cracking, cyber hacking and cracking as well as conventional warfare with modern weapons of war, including relevant tactics and strategies. You are also trained in gathering/stealing intelligence to answer priority intelligence requirements, methods of encryption and decryption and every other meaningful skill employed by the shinobi no mono including how to train up and employ spies. The only thing missing is the magic spells which people are better off without. So, in that sense shinobi still exist in modern times, unless... Unless the definition of shinobi is limited to being of a part of a Japanese ancestry that traces back to an unbroken lineage of practitioners and needing to work for someone who identifies as a retainer to the emperor of Japan. Naruhito, in which case that is a very narrow definition, but it makes all that talk about modern ninjutsu not being plausible due to cost totally irrelevant. If it was a matter of money, nearly every government in modern times and a few nongovernment groups employ people who are trained in and carry out all the typical shinobi missions again, just minus the magic and with updated tech.

Since you touched on the Western tradition, you could do videos on men like Eugene Vidocq and Allan Pinkerton. Men who helped define western espionage and private investigation. Eugene Vidocq was the first western private investigator. He pioneered the use of disguise, chemistry, autopsy, profiling, central file keeping and criminal rehabilitation. Robert Peele brought him in to help establish Scottland yard. He was the real life inspiration behind Sherlock Holmes. Allan Pinerton was the founder of the famous Pinkerton detective agency. He didn't pioneered as much as Vidocq but his business sence allowed him build the organization that is the model private detective firms.

@davidthomas8825

Жыл бұрын

I agree. After all, I'm a private investigator 🕵‍♂️🥷👍

Ok, so this is like day 5 of a deep dive into Bujinkan/ninjutsu etc. and after about 10 videos from you, this seems to make way more sense to see it this was vs. thinking you’ll really learn how to become fit and defend yourself studying “ninja martial arts.” This is probably the best video at getting your point across, but I was prepped for it by the previous 10. All-in-all, it seems like you’re saying to simply be honest on know WHY you’re doing something and talk about it accurately. Although I’ve always been interested in weapon martial arts, the simple fact is that it’s extremely unlikely I would ever use it, nor am I worried I’m going to be attacked ever. But I enjoy learning about it for the historical, social, physical, challenging, and fascinating aspects of the art. I’m going to a Bujinkan in my closest big town for a free lesson and I think I’m well prepared now. Thanks for your work and looking forward to reading a copy when it comes up in my to-read book list. Keep it up! 👍🏻

@alittlepuertoricanboy1993

Жыл бұрын

See, that's the thing, you're being realistic about what it is you're doing and what your goals in martial arts are. I always say this and I'll keep saying it, training for the aesthetics or for cultural reasons is a completely valid reason to train a martial art, you don't have to set out to be some Billy Badass if that's not in your nature.

@Jusangen

Жыл бұрын

@@alittlepuertoricanboy1993 Agreed. It's only when someone tells you what something is and then it turns out, in fact, not to be that, that it becomes an issue.

Thx for this one. This makes so many things clear.

"There are machete fights in the street" This would've been inconceivable in Britain a few decades ago. Maybe everyone needs to be more of a ninja nowadays than they think.

This cleared up so much for me, thanks! I've always wondered if there was any way to modernize it and this video explains so much. #261

The modern ninja isn’t a thing, but we can a agree that there are some “modern samurais” out there, such as Zen Takai. Thing is, ninja and samurai are nearly the same thing.

@AwakenZen

2 ай бұрын

Ninjas are spy Samurai are warriors totally not the same thing.

This video is pure gold.

I think hacking would be a sub specialized skill in modern ninjutsu bit similar to how there were ninjas that specialized in forging documents and some that specialized in night attacks. It would be critical to have a hacker in a modern ninja team but not everyone would need to specialize in hacking to be a modern ninja. Still a modern ninja should absolutely be tec savvy either way. I think it's also a question of scale as well, there were poor ninjas a lot of their tools were hand made and they focused on reusability so I think a modern ninja would also be an engineer who could buy computer parts and assemble a high performance hacking computer for cheaper than usual. It's a question of what kind of ninja you want to be, a linguist, a yonin specialtist, a in nin specialist, an herbalists/home chemist etc. Have the samurai basic skills, then build in general ninja skills, then choose a specialist. Personality I went with the social skills, languages, and yonin stuff while building my general abilities. I like playing around with disguises, understand influence, knowing how to look like I belong place I have no business being in, the like. Personally the idea being to be either a private detective or working with the FBI and applying those skills in that domain. There's still a place for all that even if computers exist and I do need some understanding of them. Honestly I think the closest thing to modern ninjutsu for someone who isn't associated with a military would be the private detective. The only things they don't do are the night attacks and general murdering, aspects I could live to not recreate. Furthermore, it's a bit silly to think that modernized ninjutsu is just Western spying, abandoning all the old ways. Their are some important differences and it's useful to go back and see what perhaps shouldn't have been thrown out. A lot of it did stop being relevant, namely divination and magic being understood to largely not work. Even still chanting and kuji Kiri have useful psychologist effects no magic required.

I touched briefly on the same subject with my interview with Viking samurai. Speaking of Viking samurai when are you doing your video?

@snakeeyes007

Жыл бұрын

Real Shinobinojutsu makes all those 80s movies on that channel look silly, I think Viking Samurai wants to keep the door open to karate kicking ninjery, even if Shinobinojutsu is a lot better.

@christopherflynn6743

Жыл бұрын

@@snakeeyes007 possibly it would fit his narrative. With that said all I've ever gotten from Antony is excuses why he can't do this or that. He recently posted a video about Jesse the karate nerd saying he's reached out to him so many times and won't get a response and I find that funny because I was able to talk to Jesse several times and I don't even have a fucking channel. Not only have I talked to Jesse but I've also talked to multiple KZreadrs and have even appeared on several of their podcasts. Yet here Antony sits with a failing channel. People are interested in the subject, but at this point I'm starting to believe maybe the problem is Antony. It just seems nobody really likes him. It could be the fact that when he speaks to people he's very condescending, and if you're not part of his ninja nerd group he kind of just blows you off unless he needs something or wants something. It's pretty telling when other KZreadrs would rather talk to a dick head like me then talk to him.

@snakeeyes007

Жыл бұрын

@@christopherflynn6743 Ya, I recently reached out to Daniel Theodore asking him if he could reach out to Viking Samurai, Scott Adkins. The response I got was "Viking is too busy, backlogged, and people aren't interested in the subject o and he "wouldn't bother a celebrity with such things," as a veteran of OIF/OEF I found that statement the most interesting response. Your observation is interesting, and it might be true, I think there are people that can help Historical Shinobijutsu and maybe he's going about it the wrong way. At the same time, the world especially the Western male continues to get softer and more pathetic. People would rather have the lie and fantasy than the real thing... lets's be honest making Ninjutsu Karate is much easier than Shinobinoho which requires intelligence and extreme physical pain in training.

@christopherflynn6743

Жыл бұрын

@@snakeeyes007 absolutely true, but part of selling it is the salesman himself. If the salesman can't get through the door doesn't matter how good the product is.

I met a guy at a bujinkan seminar not going into details but he was from Hereford and "worked for the MOD" a few years later I was watching a channel 4 dispatches documentary about a certain regiment based in Hereford and their operations in Afghanistan and he was on it. He was the closest I've ever met to a legit modern ninja.

@kodoyama

8 ай бұрын

Super Army Soldier?

@lewisb85

8 ай бұрын

@@kodoyama he was, like I said never mentioned it at the seminar all we knew about him was he was from the Hereford dojo. Was quite a posh lad reminded me of Simon Yeo.

Gentlemen, there are a large number of applications of shinobinojutsu principles that can be used today. Discerning truth from lies(needed today), fire, scouting/mountaineering, meteorology, security/circumventing security, disguise, reading people's minds/personalities/making people tell you what they think, just to name a few. And Kyo jutsu for those camera's that are "everywhere", now some may say "Just join the military" A very small percentage of the military learn this stuff, less than 1%. learning these things can be beneficial in a lot of ways especially in the crazy times we live in Then there's "blade over heart" Internal aspects of Shinoobinoho, the mind, great benefit that isn't talked about, trained, or taught. There are former soldiers making millions of dollars talking about and writing on "warrior mindset, mental, toughness and discipline." Practitioners of Samurai arts should be experts on these subjects if they truly took this stuff serious.

@snakeeyes007

Жыл бұрын

@Monk Downs I think because people are so shallow these days, and really don't put effort into anything they don't know the subject of Shinobinoho. I actually think it's too hard for people these days especially in the western world, pain and endurance are things that men run from, its a society of constant comfort and lies., This is why Ninjutsu is reduced to black gi's and Martial arts that will get people hurt in a real fight. I agree with your post it's far more than a modern hacker, its more on the HUMID intelligence side of the house, but you don't have to join the federal government(military) to learn it. So many benefits like Reading people, the art of Camouflage in Yonin (よにん) blending in, controlling your mind, entering the gateless gate, Impromptu ways of speaking, avoid defeating people/using people. If you look at many of the things that Chikamatsu Shigenori Sensei, Yorihida Sensei and Natori Masazumi Sensei were teaching its very high level warfare. The military is not teaching Kyo-jitsu or Fujitsu "the insubstantial which includes the substantial" or truth and emptiness, this is something taught at the CIA/NSA intel community level, things that are implemented on the western world all the time, the great benefit is you know what they are trying to do to you if you understand these things.

You can't modernize it until you can turn intuition into a technology. They relied solely on intuition. we have technology, which means we don't have to do the hard work of developing our intuition. If you have intuition, you rarely need the technology. So yeah, we can see in the dark with goggles, but we can't listen to the wildlife to give us important information. We can hack and see what they're doing, but we can't climb walls silently, or work together to infiltrate castle walls and accomplish a mission. We have all this tech, but none of it is really shinobi. It takes the work out of being one, so we can never really achieve the same states anymore. Not if we're relying on tech,at least. Also its not like we have locations like Iga or Koga to learn how these internal skills are developed. Our explosives and ability to sabotage is far greater than the shinobi ever had. Its kind of pointless to compare ancient shinobi to modern hackers. Hacking is powerful, but its also a crutch when it comes to the most important part of shadow fighting.

So….seems like there’re 3 pathways from what I understand from this video. - sticks to the books and apply the principles and tactics to modern life. (Historical Ninjutsu for the everyday life). - mix in other martial arts with Kenjutsu/shurikenjutsu/Shinobi espionage and then call this a so called ‘evolved ninjutsu’ - Train to be like a Splinter Cell (if you know the game).

@richard4991

Жыл бұрын

You also need a master, otherwise you're just a thief.

Modern special forces an black ops are basically modern ninjas. Spies to

great video Anthony :D

If you modernized ninjutsu, you'd just have modern spying, investigation, commando tactics, and terrorism...all of which we already have. 😂😂😂

@wildwaymartialarts

8 ай бұрын

Anarchist Cookbook comes to mind

A phrase I learned from Okinawan Karate, we learn the old so that we can understand the new. Studying historical ninjutsu is useful because the principles still make sense, even though technology and the environment have changed. We have different locks than Sengoku period Japan, but you can still learn to lockpick. (See the Lockpicking Lawyer here on KZread.) Computers have taken over large aspects of our life, but you can learn hacking and cybersecurity. (Google Red Har Pen Tester for a ton of info on this. There are even courses on it at places like Hack The Box and similar.) So much of spying, including ninjutsu is what we would call today Social Engineering. It's using clever skills of communication to get information out of people. Add to that a couple basic tools, and you can gain access to places you shouldn't be. For legal reasons, I have to say: Don't do anything illegal. I personally learn these skills so that I can better prepare myself and my workplace with proper defenses against these sorts of things. But here's a hypothetical example of how I could use the things I know and the tools I have. Using social engineering, I get close enough to personnel who have RFID keycards that are used to access a building. I have a device that can clone these cards' RFID signals. (Seriously, this part is easy.) Now with access to the building, I can find a computer that no one is currently using, and simply plugging in a USB Rubber Ducky, or some other Bad USB, I can do all kinds of things from simple key-logging (this is how you can get Usernames and Passwords) to giving me a remote tunnel I can use to access the computer from off-site. I could drop a Tile or something similar into someone's bag or jacket, and now I'll be able to monitor their movements around the building. I could locate the file cabinet that has the documents I need, but of course, it's locked. Good thing I have a tubular lockpick So, yeah. The tools and techniques have changed. But the principles are still useful. And in order to draw the parallels from ninjutsu to modern covert ops, you have to study both. The kama were used to cut through bamboo fences, as you said for example. Have you ever seen someone cut through a chainlink fence with bolt cutters? Same idea. Different tool. I think the main point that you mentioned that we all need to keep in mind, whether studying historical ninjutsu or modern covert skills, is that the ninja were members of an army. These were larger-scale military actions performed by military actors. While some of the skills are useful for individuals, households, or smaller groups; the main idea behind the techniques and skills is warfare. It's the Art of War. However, just how learning some of the skills of a modern soldier can still be useful in everyday life, knowing some of the skills of modern spies can be useful in everyday life. And I personally find value in studying both the old and the new. Because, like I said at the start of my comment, we learn the old to understand the new.

Its funny that hackers are commonly referred to as ninjas. Its where the whole ninja vs. pirate debate originated. There are some historical ninja techniques that have been adapted to modern techniques. One is infiltrating office building to get access to company computers. We're told not to let people people piggy back behind you or if they tell you they forgot their key. The social engineering techniques that hackers use are very similar to the intelligence gathering from Sun Tzu and the Book of Ninja. I personally use shinobi techniques in my larping. Even though my character is based on European (namely Irish) style and its a fantasy world I do implement some of the shinobi techniques for it. For example I'm working on having 4 other characters each based off of the 4 disguises (peasant, noble, merchant, and priest) and I've used the night patrol techniques and how to hide very effectively. And I don't even play a Rogue or Assassin class.

@spartan-s013

5 ай бұрын

hackers as people just doing that are nothing like ninjas at all. Hacking as a skill is a part of what special forces and secret services doing. They are more like ninjas, not hackers

Antony: Hacking is modern ninjutsu. Cybersecurity expert: 👀

@tactical_mind_

Жыл бұрын

Lol! As someone in the field, I was surprised but it makes sense . I just wish I could wear a ninja suit to work!

@HoriaNeagu

Жыл бұрын

@@tactical_mind_ Pen testing in a ninja suit? Well, it wouldn't be too far off from the popular portrayal of a guy sporting a Guy Fawkes mask and wearing a hoodie. 😂

@tactical_mind_

Жыл бұрын

@@HoriaNeaguNo doubt! Haha

Yep. That pretty much sums it up

Anthony, you don't need to be a hacker perse. If you want modern ninjas then here is some thing you can look into: Pentesters. There's physical penetration of lockpicking, bypassing, cloning fobs and keys etc. Theres the social manipulation of being crafty and using lies to gain access to secure areas, etc. You dont necessarily need "hacking skills" if these people let you walk in and take access. Its like the ancient ninja walking into fortified castles dressed as monks or gardeners. Theres a whole world of modern "ninjas" or rather the evolution of it. There's a lot to be found for surreptitious entry. Look up guys like Deviant Ollam or Ed Calderon/Eds Manifesto. Ed is cool because he infiltrated numerous cartels incognito. He's associated with a fighting style too which is called "libre fighting" which is a form of Filipino martial arts. I guess what I'm saying is you dont need necessarily need Google camera access to gain what you need. Its all spying and modern ninjutsu.

Pirates (Golden Age, Caribbean type) and _Old West_ cowboys, too. Can't be modernized. They were people of a short time in history, INTERTWINED and dependent on those times. It's amazing how quickly certain occupations/specializations are made obsolete.

@jashardwallington

Жыл бұрын

Actually modern pirates are a thing there the smugglers an there ppl stealing boats

During WWII, are Japanese Soldiers trained from Nakano considered ninjas or its modern form? Thank you.

@AntonyCummins

11 ай бұрын

I would say no. Because then spies anywhere would be ninja

So they have modernized Ninjitsu, it's called MI6 and the CIA.

People should just stick with the historical knowledge of how they done things, I don't see what someone would be trying to achieve by modernizing it. There is things you could learn like wilderness survival, horse riding and archery as doable modernizing part of it, but ideally you should learn how it was actually done by the Shinobi when they were actually doing it first.

Great, an entire video answering my question in detail. Thank you. It is at least interesting to be able to study the real history.

Just suppose that individuals talented with one or more of the ninja's esoteric skills may be employed in a "Project Stargate " type position.🤔

So I can say that I'm a Modern Samurai, then? Alright, jokes aside, you really should watch Ray Donovan. It's phenomenal. It's not modern ninjutsu per se, but you can see the similarities. Call him an Elite-Rogue if you'd like. He gets into almost everything you've covered here, but on an entirely street level. Also, maybe if you could talk about the show one day in the far future, that would be great. It's that good. There's Burn Notice as well, but it gets a bit cliché at times. In any case, I'm just throwing out both recommendations in case you don't like either one of the shows I've listed. Feel free to say that Modern Ninjutsu practitioners are merely hackers, heisters, and counter-agents with the best equipment and everything else is simply amateur hour. We get it. This is wide-scale crime syndicates, war, and/or law enforcement behind enemy lines.

Good video 👍🏻

Look up US Army Ranger Rengement Recon Company. Their job is to go where computers can't, and I know for a fact they are history nuts.

I had to explain this to my bjj friends lol

4:06 there's really good military manuals you can get that cover guerilla warfare if the goal is a "modern ninja" Ranger handbook is probably a good start and one i aint worried about my federal government knowing i have 😂 I'll keep it at that

With modern martial art practices the keikogi colour is preference unless stated by federation.Our keikogi is black, as it is hides blood, snot and dirt of rolling on mats etc and looks generally cleaner than a white gi, they stain really easy unless you are in a pristine Dojo and do not make contact with each other. Ideal for Karate but not so much grappling arts. That said some Karate styles use the black gi as well. I'm sure in the distance past Hatsumi saw a black gi being used in a karate class and used the same. There is old footage of Takamatsu is wearing white.

@AntonyCummins

Жыл бұрын

I did a video on this it was stolen from ichikawa sensei

Just learn cyber security……

Google might be Ai ninjutsu can be modernize there programes that can hack hojutsu was back then now tactical arms iam use drone take pic i am still training

Commenting for the algorithm

How can I get into shuriken throwing? They're very much illegal here in the UK.

@richard4991

Жыл бұрын

I hear playing darts is quite popular across the pond.

@AntonyCummins

Жыл бұрын

Nails from bnq or make them with tools from bnq

@RainMakeR_Workshop

Жыл бұрын

@@AntonyCummins Lol, I would, but the reason I want to learn is to take part in the shuriken throwing tournament they hold at the Iga Museum. All their nonsense aside, the competition looks fun and they use a standardised star type shuriken for sake of fairness.

idee of bellingcat and would be close by investigation side of ninjutsu

Marden Ninja Ware Far is one of my fave from you. great book by the way i love how give credit to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu..

Parkour

if i'm totally honest i find the old historical ninjutsu much more interesting, of course there's a lot more to spy on now but it's not really my thing.thank you very much.

I love your videos but, if is not too much trouble, could you include english subs... sometimes is difficul to fully understand you.

@AntonyCummins

11 ай бұрын

No it would take hours. Turn the auto ones on?

@gcamel1

11 ай бұрын

yes, but they are not very goog.

Couldn’t you use “Modernized Ninjutsu” in business, corporate espionage? Not just in the military.

I guessed my little brothers phone password. I’m thinking of opening a ninja school.

🗿👍🏿

Yo ninja. I have my ex wife name tattooed behind my ear. Ima do a cover . I want something large like Samurai/ninja. Subtle. The real deal . Almost a old villager comes to mind. But I’d like to know what some dope images you dig. That could be tattooed. My dude can copy anything 🙏.

@isrealoro

Жыл бұрын

Thought about the ninja on the rope. With the rope up high as the cover . And ninja down by the shoulders with room for a castle and mountains later maybe 🤔 Hu? Whatcha think? It’s a for letter name behind my neck 😅

We still got human skin. yet we are not robots, modernized ninja being hacker is yet not that suitable,I mean too early, I campare a ninja to a elite soldier, even they still use knives, we are still not converted to a fully ai technological society, still we can assassination humans with a little knife, even modern world everybody can't access to firearms, blades are still effective, not the swords lol yet shinobi can be modernized

I feel fortunate enough to figure out how to hack into your show every time. I hope it's not to cold over your way, i noticed the heavy sweater. Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow forever !

First.

Sun tzu holds up better than ninjutsu for practical applications. Since ancient ninjutsu is mostly magic and the use of ancient tool use.

@snakeeyes007

Жыл бұрын

Old Shinobinojutsu is a lot more then magic and tools.

@christopherrasberry9629

Жыл бұрын

Strategy and philosophy are broader concepts that can be used in wider application of modern life. Most ninja skills passed down are not applicable to modern times. The weapons, building construction, security measures are all completely different and are only worth learning for historical value or fun.

@ohauss

Жыл бұрын

@@christopherrasberry9629 But that could be said to be overfocusing the concept. Evidently, the Ninja used the tools of their time, but they very much were creative in how to use and adapt them to their purposes.

@christopherrasberry9629

Жыл бұрын

I guess a lot of things could be considered ninjutsu if we consider its application in modern context. I am speaking to the skills from the scrolls and how a majority are not going to be helpful in a modern setting.

@snakeeyes007

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@@christopherrasberry9629 My point was the art is more than just tools and magic and since you brought it up modern day application. Shinobinoho has a lot of value a primary focus on discerning truth from lies, constructing conspiracy, scouting/mountaineering, reading and using the weather(meteorology). The blade over heart developing Shinobi mindset(endure), disguise, security, defeating obstacles, lock picking, explosives, torches, and various fire craft and 100 more skills. You brought up security...its the principle, you need sectors or early warning to let you know someone is trying to enter your home(Iga/Koka ninja skills mentions this). A dog, cameras, things that make noise on the perimeter, alarm/special locks on the door. More on the Samurai side same thing is the principle of learning weapons for that time, ya you can learn the Katana but also learn various modern weapon systems like AR15, AK47, and the tactics to use these weapons. If a person is dedicated and disciplined, very rare these days, they can learn and apply everything I mentioned above.

You talk to much and abide by tradition too little. You may know a tradition, you may know a few, but you'll never know them all. The finger points at the tip of the moon but the moon is not at the tip of the finger. You may find something, but it isn't all that is seen. Only through sufficient wisdom will you truly understand. Way of life. Through way of life, that's modern. It is as real today as it was in japan in the 16 hundreds. And as real as it was in china even farther back, as to India. Existing under many names throughout history, and the modern era is no different, for one day in the far future this era will be history. They will exist, and have far before the 16th century. Ninja is a modern term, be it, it is the modern name of this specific era. In japan it was called shinobi-no-mono, in china, forest demons, many, many names from many many periods of time. Way of life, it's a warrior way, all of it, is way--- of something. This is how it survived for centuries. It's not a title, for only the public titles it. Right now, we call it ninja. We give it this title because it symbolizes stealth, endurance, perseverance, secrecy, and so forth. Simply put, the ninja can be a farmer, a member of the police force, a hacker, a special force operator, a spy, a simple chief. A ninja can be any profession, and still be a ninja. The reason for this--- is simply way of life, tradition, lineage, and so forth. And if we call it a new title in the future, then they are now that title. Simply put, we say ninja for the meaning. And dare all say, we cannot be so. The modern era has truly ruined the very meaning of it all, and ruined something very profound both in reputation, and understanding, hence considering it dead, but it's not.

😂 modern combat done with firearms and espionage has its modern doctrine. The time of the ninja is over. People who train in this stuff outside the establishment are called teroists!😂

@liquiddw2

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There's many civilian jobs which uses variants of these skills and who are not "terrorists".