The Mix Bus Snare Trick
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Joey shows you how to get your snare to sit perfectly in your mix with one simple trick. How do you process your instrumental bus? Let us know in the comments!
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0:00 Intro
0:22 The Setup
1:45 Snare Processing
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This series of short tutorials is so helpful!
Another good thing to have is a high pass filter on the compressor. Set it high enough so that ignores the kick so you eliminate pumping👍
Omg this is the best mixing tip i ever saw. I mean this makes the snare huuuughe.
Pure gold! thanks Joey
I love this quick tutorials! 😃
Awesome Joey! Thanks so much for this. I haven't thought about using Finality at all on an instrument bus before the master. Works great 💯
Awesome tip, thank you.
Magic, never thought about it before, Simply evident Thanks a lot for that trick!
These quick tutorials are gold folks.
Love this video, thanks!!
Man thank you for these videos
Awesome man great video
Hey Joey! I appreciate your tutorials so much as it helps me learn new things. Since I am a beginner to music production, sometimes I get stuck deciding which way to go at some point. I was wondering if you mind making a full tutorial about how to make a new song step by step.
It's a super trick! I already do this but with a multiband :) I also guess you could sidechain a dynamic EQ instead for max accuracy.
these short tutorials are awesome
so great these videos are put together, amazing tips...video production, TO THE POINT ! No bla bla bla....fukkin efficient ! Thank you JST!
I’ve been using the JW BG-Drums Plugin and really like it. Glues the drums together nicely.
love the bossa nova vibe
Thanks a lot, Joey! Always love these tutorials \m/
@mikejulian5994
3 жыл бұрын
Also I've been using TrackSpacer always on my instrumental bus since your last NTM
@alwayssomewhattired
Жыл бұрын
Is \m/ a shaka?
@mikejulian5994
Жыл бұрын
@@alwayssomewhattired it’s rock on 🤘. I was just on the computer when I commented and either don’t have or couldn’t see that emoji aha
Love the JST Clipper! Weren’t you guys working on v2 of that?
This video is fucking perfect
Thanks wee Joey, that's a canny little tip. I'm going to try it out right now!
If I understand correctly, you put all the Instruments in the compression bus, except for vocals? Amazing series of tutorials, thanks a lot Joey! These short tips helped me so much in improving my mixes!
Great Video as always Joey! Where i can find this reaper skin? Thanks!
What the fuck!? This is genius. Great tip. Thanks.
Cool tip; pretty similar with Nolly's tip with the difference that he is using the snare source as a sidechain for the bus compressor so everything ducks only when the snare hits ;)
@dylanlundgren
Жыл бұрын
Could you help clarify what exactly he's doing here? I'm interpreting it as all instr + drums are sent to a bus, throwing a compressor on it, but how does that push everything else out of the way of the snare? Wouldn't that actually just be bringing the snare down so it's more glued with the rest of the instr?
@randomselect645
8 ай бұрын
@@dylanlundgren send all the instruments to a bus , and add a compressor on it , with fast attack and fast release setting , set the ration 4:1 and threshold with minimum gain reduction of 3 to 5 db when snare hits ( depends on your taste ) . Get a compressor with sidechaining feature example ( slate digital - Grey compressor ) and high pass it to 60 to 70 ish hertz so that it won't trigger the low end which may sound pumping if it triggers it
@alessandro_inno
7 ай бұрын
@@dylanlundgrenthis. I don't understand how it would isolate the snare hit to make it sound harder. Wouldn't thst make also the kick do the same? I'll try this when i get home to see the results i get
I use something i learned from Joey, Neutron Sculptor!
Pretty cool vid, man. I normally do it with just a Drum Bus and duck the Bass GTR if needed. I've never tried ducking all the instruments. I'll give it a go on the next mix I feel could just some taming of the Snar.
joey working in reaper is such a weird but heartwarming sight
@joeymusic
3 жыл бұрын
Smooth 6
this is the exact issue I've been dealing with
I had this issue today, HAD
To control the snare transients on the mix bus, you set the compressor at the beginning of the chain? Like before your main mix bus compressor?
I had to stop myself I was using this trick so much
how i to make a high end frequence sound like you plz help me 🙏
I'm confused about setting up the instrument bus, am I sending volume to the instrument bus or just waveform data?? Should I be routing all of my instruments to this bus which then routes to the master channel or what?
I feel like I owe you my job by now
This is a neat idea for giving the snare more focus for the compressor. However, I think the majority of us aren't printing down the instrumentals minus the snare. I'd like to see this used in more common practice within an actual session where we can see a more realistic application. Are you sending the instrumentals to a bus specifically for snare ducking, then the result + vocals/fx to a mix bus? Personally, I have a bus for each instrument + vocals + synths/fx, then send those to a mix bus minus the bass drops (because I hate mix bus compression on bass drops), and the mix bus + bass drops go to my master track with a clipper. Do you suggest I just 86 the vocal bus from the mix bus and send it straight to the master?
@jarrenharper718
3 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with having a bus to each instrument, a lot of mixers take it one step further and send the separate instrument buses to an instrumental bus. Best example would be if a band wants to come back and release and instrumental version of a song you’re good to go. 👍🏻
@joeymusic
3 жыл бұрын
You don’t need to print. Just route to a bus.
@kernelxsanders
3 жыл бұрын
@@jarrenharper718 the individual busses are usually just a volume fade and clipper to keep from peaking so the mix bus compressor doesnt have to work as hard. If the band wants the instrumental, I just mute the vocals, but I can see how that would make the mix bus compression work differently.
@kernelxsanders
3 жыл бұрын
@@joeymusic I guess I was more just getting at trying to get a closer look at the routing. With the way I route things as described in the OP, no matter how much I turn up the snare I cant get more than 1-2db gain reduction on the snare. Maybe because I use a clipper on the snare sum?
That snare sounded titanic at the end. F*CK!
I use folder tracks in reaper to organize all of my instrument tracks. When sending to this bus would all of the audio be coming from this bus almost like a master fader or would the signal run parallel?
@mcgarnacle21
2 жыл бұрын
Would be like a master fader mate.
What is the reaper theme you're using,it looks awesome!!
@joeymusic
3 жыл бұрын
Smooth 6
@WinterSpire
3 жыл бұрын
@@joeymusic thank you!
Cool video but i dont understand the routing. Are you just bus compressing everything including the snare to tame some of the snare peaks? Or compressing the non snare elements only and triggering off the snare?
@jeffsnider9869
3 жыл бұрын
Everything except the vocals
Nice trick! Personally will take take Kick/Snare and send them to an aux/bus and put a little bit of compression (if needed) and in parallel add Transify to get a more transient, pokey, and clipped sound (wish there was an update to add better oversampling so you can push the plugin further). Then, stylistically, use that aux/bus to feed a sidechain that will duck elements like pads and bass with fast attack and med/slow release. Awesome tutorial! Loved the Attack Attack drum tutorial! I've been using that same technique for years with vocals on a two track in rap in lol
what´s the name of the song :O? awesome video!!
hola joey!
What is this snare sample? Drumshotz?
@sirenbrothersofficial7575
3 жыл бұрын
Following
Song name please..?
What song is this? Shazam can’t find it, unfortunately… :(
what is song on 1:26?
what song is this in the demo?
@wazdacraicyehmot
3 жыл бұрын
sounds like deadnest by monuments
Lol I did this but in the longest way possible. Instead of having certain instruments duck all on one bus I’d have a compressor side changed to the snare in my guitar buses and bass
How can I have the same Reaper Interface as yours? Its so nice omg!!!
@ThomasECahill
3 жыл бұрын
Its called Smooth 6 its on the Reaper forum.
@mattnunesmusica
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasECahill Thanks bro!
How on Earth do you duck the instrunental buss to the snare without sidechain while also putting the snare itself in there? There was not sidechain in the video,you can see the compressor react all the time.
@alessandro_inno
7 ай бұрын
I have seen lots of comments but i get no logical answer. So i'll try it and see. But it seems to me this is more of a commercial for the compressor.
@stevemoss6926
5 ай бұрын
There is no sidechain necessary. Although, a compressor with a sidechain hpf is useful to prevent the compressor reacting too much to the kick. I've been using this for years. As much as I regret using the term, it really is a game changer, especially for dense, heavy music. And, no, this video isn't an attempt to sell the plug in. It's a real, very useful mixbus compression technique. The compressor is reacting to other elements. Joey even states that in the video. However, it's reacting more to the snare. Nolly goes into great depth about this as well.
What is this daw? The UI looks good
@joeymusic
3 жыл бұрын
Reaper. Smooth 6 skin.
@progun1corn
3 жыл бұрын
@@joeymusic Thank you! Definitely gonna try it
How faster how are you ducking the music when the snare hits you would need to do a side chain for that to happen
i appreciate the content, think i preferred no compression tho
@mlrdmn
3 жыл бұрын
i'm more of a parrallel compression guy, it lets you have the best of both worlds
Maaan what's the name of this song??
Duuude I always thought Finality was a limiter and not a compressor.... I am so bad at this 😪😢
@Phybia
3 жыл бұрын
Well, a limiter is basically a very strict and hard compressor.
This song is groovy as FUARK bro what is it?
It works... it really does. I thought: "How can a snare-triggered compressor make way for the snare that is already in the channel that's getting compressed by itself." But it works.
From the title I thought you want to talk about Def Leppard-like snares
@joeymusic
3 жыл бұрын
We could go there
@messengercrow
3 жыл бұрын
@@joeymusic I read somewhere that Mutt Lange layered 10 to 20 snare sounds to make Hysteria sound huge. Not sure how he did it using tape.
Real question is, where is this sample? Haha
2 Questions. Are you sidechaining the snare to the instrument bus or literally just sending everything to the bus minus the vox and fx? 2nd question, are you "sending" the instruments to an instrument bus as in parallel or is this instrument bus your main instrument bus?
"Make sure to set the attack and release pretty fast." >Uses an LA2A model
@MattGirst
3 жыл бұрын
The JST Finality Lite is a Limiter with a LA2A like GUI. So the attack and release are pretty fast.
@XiyuYang
3 жыл бұрын
That’s not a LA2A though.
@thimovijfschaft3271
3 жыл бұрын
Why do they give it a LA2A gui if it's not modeled after the LA2A?
nolly's thing