The MASSIVE Sniper Update in Phantom Forces

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Here are my thoughts on all the sniper changes in Phantom Forces
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:22 - Intervention
1:57 - Model 700
3:30 - SVU
4:06 - AWM
5:55 - TRG-42
8:02 - Mosin
9:54 - SVDS
10:50 - M1903
11:33 - K14
13:25 - FT300
16:09 - M107
16:23 - WA2000
17:52 - NTW-20

Пікірлер: 228

  • @theinflasian
    @theinflasian Жыл бұрын

    Stylis is so indecisive with all of these guns. They can’t keep anything the same

  • @legendaryignitor

    @legendaryignitor

    Жыл бұрын

    It's cause snipers are objectively overpowered no matter what you do to them as long as they maintain the ability to 1 shot kill to the head regardless of range. Hitting a singular shot is for the most part easier than hitting multiple in succession, and yet snipers get rewarded more for an "easier" task and can even in some cases react to automatic fire and kill in return because they only need one hit compared to the 3-6ish hits most automatics in the game need.

  • @siko9799

    @siko9799

    Жыл бұрын

    @@legendaryignitor they’re only overpowered if you’re incredibly good at the game. at that point, using an automatic would suit most situations better.

  • @rath2063

    @rath2063

    Жыл бұрын

    they have just recently hired a new contractor so thats why they just rebalanced the snipers

  • @legendaryignitor

    @legendaryignitor

    Жыл бұрын

    @@siko9799 My comment was about game balance. You're talking about individualistic perspective. Yes, most automatics are more practical from case to case, but in (and I cannot stress this enough) every fps with sniper rifles, they're op. The counterplay to a sniper is, don't be seen and if you are seen then be extremely close to even get a chance to punish them, and if they're staring down a chokepoint then you can forget it. Snipers are oppressive, that's their job. If they're able to do their job then they are overpowered. I'm not saying, nerf them into oblivion. However most game devs don't realize that the best way to "balance" a sniper is to leave it unbalanced, because that's what they'll "always" be.

  • @siko9799

    @siko9799

    Жыл бұрын

    @@legendaryignitor i see. i agree with what you say. snipers should always be guns with high skill ceilings. i think pf does this well to an extent. though there are some easy to use snipers (.50 cals), usually their potential is lower than a faster firing sniper.

  • @sharpcoyote7988
    @sharpcoyote7988 Жыл бұрын

    I honestly love how they're making each sniper fall into its own group, yet not so niche that you can't play sniper if you're part of a given niche - each one is completely unique and a little difficult to switch between playstyles, yet if you're a sniper it's nigh impossible to not fit in with a specific gun's niche.

  • @blitzoce7939

    @blitzoce7939

    Жыл бұрын

    wow scientist

  • @coolepic519

    @coolepic519

    3 ай бұрын

    Sorry im late by a year but Bfg and NTW fit into the same category and sometimes even the hecate let me list ig Power - NTW, HECATE, BFG Potential - Remington, Steyr, Mosin Versatility - Intervention im not as smart as i sound i forgot all sniper types youre right 😭

  • @ltgnx
    @ltgnx Жыл бұрын

    heyo, guy who did the TRG rework here as you said I was aiming for the TRG to be moreso focused on it's ability to limb kill, but unfortunately it was not well received as it had functionally rendered the weapon useless, as it was only killing to similar distances as the AWS and new K14. I will be going back to the drawing board for the TRG, so hopefully it should get rejuvenated in a later update. Also, the M1903 maxim suppressor thing IS a bug, it's supposed to have a unique sound to other suppressors but somehow didn't make it into production.

  • @Lenevor

    @Lenevor

    Жыл бұрын

    If its people like balancing the weapons, no wonder the power creep is insane

  • @tejasdaksh1952

    @tejasdaksh1952

    Жыл бұрын

    you ruined my favorite sniper, change back the trg

  • @ltgnx

    @ltgnx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tejasdaksh1952 if you read my whole comment then you would know that I AM planning on changing it again.

  • @coldworkedhayche

    @coldworkedhayche

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ltgnx do you have any idea how long until it gets changed? (like will it be a soonish thing, or be in the next large update in a few months?)

  • @ltgnx

    @ltgnx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@coldworkedhayche the contractor is currently on holiday due to it being new years, but he plans to start doing consistent updates every couple of weeks or so, doing small balance changes/adding new content. I'm hoping I will be able to have the rework I have written pushed in the next update.

  • @itsduckietime4473
    @itsduckietime4473 Жыл бұрын

    Basically, in a nutshell: All snipers now have either trash or no torso multipliers, FT300 is the new meta, and NTW shoots through entire maps.

  • @untrust2033

    @untrust2033

    Жыл бұрын

    Yuh. Fine before

  • @DonutTracks

    @DonutTracks

    Жыл бұрын

    I can confirm that NTW shoots through entire maps. I prebought the NTW at level 20, put a red dot on top of the scope, bought the single shot conversion, put some iphones on it, and sat on a couch in the living room of a building on desert storm. I had a friend spot for me, and I managed to get 20 kills by shooting red markers on a wall. I even got a collat once. Definitely the most fun I've had in phantom so far. I'm not even good at the game lol. People were like "why do you, a level 20, have an NTW and why are you shooting us through like 7 walls?"

  • @almightyduck8834
    @almightyduck8834 Жыл бұрын

    I wish Phantom Forces had that same vibe as it used to have 3 years ago. Such good days.

  • @themanguy2110

    @themanguy2110

    Жыл бұрын

    I wish it had the same vibe as 6 years ago.

  • @_wayward_494

    @_wayward_494

    Жыл бұрын

    The vibe is the same lmao, all that has changed is that you grew up. You don't want the vine, you want to go back

  • @draxthylocalrespectorofanime

    @draxthylocalrespectorofanime

    Жыл бұрын

    @@_wayward_494 what has changed is that i no longer feel like my deaths should have happened 90% of the time because i either start shooting one bullet at them back after seeing them and im dead 1 second later. seems like the frames arent synced up most times too and i played in 2016-2019 and just came back. never felt like this.

  • @_wayward_494

    @_wayward_494

    Жыл бұрын

    @@draxthylocalrespectorofanime that seems like a hardware issue bruh. Or your internet

  • @almightyduck8834

    @almightyduck8834

    Жыл бұрын

    @@_wayward_494 So true, god I miss 2020

  • @yoface2537
    @yoface2537 Жыл бұрын

    The lack of sway on the ft300 is due to the unique design, one notable part of this is the stock which is on a spring also marksman kit + 22 lr is now very powerful, it fixes the old mag issue and works like marksman kit on everything else

  • @dacomputerlives8264
    @dacomputerlives8264 Жыл бұрын

    The NTW-20x110 with the heavy barrel has 45 studs of penetration. 35 studs are beginner numbers

  • @Phosphorite05

    @Phosphorite05

    Жыл бұрын

    So you can pretty much hit anyone from anywhere through anything

  • @dacomputerlives8264

    @dacomputerlives8264

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Phosphorite05 yes

  • @newbplaygames

    @newbplaygames

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Phosphorite05 well the gun is AMR so it is supposed to do that

  • @just_ducky
    @just_ducky Жыл бұрын

    The reason to use the SVU is for its body performance. In LRC, it can 2 shot limb/torso all ranges, which is a lot like every other sniper (excluding the ones that torso kill or limb kill all ranges), yet has a LOT more RPM.

  • @helloworld5539
    @helloworld5539 Жыл бұрын

    Great vid anyway keep going bro.

  • @chally113
    @chally113 Жыл бұрын

    Love ur videos! Keep it up! Kinda good at pf rn getting better!

  • @tutelwt
    @tutelwt Жыл бұрын

    nice video! thanks for clarifying all the new sniper changes, a bit sad to see the intervention nerfed tho (my first 1k kill gun)

  • @dogoloco6024
    @dogoloco6024 Жыл бұрын

    haven’t watched you in awhile but i regret it. this vid was AMAZING

  • @tonchimintz8056
    @tonchimintz8056 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the amazing content!

  • @gagetheeditor5332
    @gagetheeditor5332 Жыл бұрын

    Snowy i love your videos so much keep going for 100k you'll get there soon :) Keep up the great content i love watching your content

  • @JustYourNormalAlien
    @JustYourNormalAlien Жыл бұрын

    4:49 Less bullets ✅ Less damage ✅ Less muzzle velocity ✅ Less penetration ✅ New mic needed ✅

  • @cesj1
    @cesj1 Жыл бұрын

    for the TRG, the TRG-S kit is basically a direct upgrade (torso multi is now 1.14 instead of 1, but the base velocity is reduced by 200). also the Mosin can have 8mm and extended mag again for some reason

  • @wolfno.7558
    @wolfno.7558 Жыл бұрын

    Ty for your time as a dedicated awm main I will still religiously use it despite the nerf.

  • @genkishooto
    @genkishooto Жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @boy1u235
    @boy1u235 Жыл бұрын

    never fails to impress!

  • @Rept06
    @Rept06 Жыл бұрын

    Btw the SVDS conv (10/3.5mm) on top of having reverse damage and semi auto, 1. Has I think 6 studs of pen and 2. Use ars suppressor to make the one shot head range closer since ars reduces ranges the most Also, NTW-20 with 20x110 and heavy barrel had 42 studs of pen

  • @LightexPlays
    @LightexPlays Жыл бұрын

    i havent watched u snowy since a while ago when u said you were going on a break idk how long ago but used to watch every video u did for like 2 years but yeah hi!

  • @DiscoBallGaming
    @DiscoBallGaming Жыл бұрын

    I don't play this game super often but when I do I usually run snipers, I run the 700. I'm glad they didn't ruin it because I actually enjoy using it. same with the Mosin, I'm glad they brought back the 4X

  • @azuskus
    @azuskus Жыл бұрын

    me, being completely unaffected because i use a henry 45-70 to snipe

  • @jakep7749
    @jakep7749 Жыл бұрын

    i recently used the sebru slugs and its a beast no sight and green laser is feels like there is no bullet drop, i love it 1 shot head all range like 3 or 4 body tho

  • @TokyoPerspective
    @TokyoPerspective Жыл бұрын

    common snowy W upload.

  • @zdarkvirus9557
    @zdarkvirus9557 Жыл бұрын

    thank god they reworked the ft300, i used to main it in the past and seemed strange to play but now its really good, if you have 6xc ammo and long barrel on it it gets 4000 velocity and 4 studs of pen (not sure if marksman kit thing that adds 10 rounds in the mag effects that) but yeah its really good now

  • @cop3
    @cop3 Жыл бұрын

    1:33 CLEAAAAAAN

  • @rockyboi9360
    @rockyboi9360 Жыл бұрын

    There is an odd glitch I found while using the intervention, where if you somewhat skip the bolt animation it won't let you scope in until you fire another round and finish the animation. Oof.

  • @Soulless-Gaming
    @Soulless-Gaming Жыл бұрын

    The ft300 is now (in my opinion) realy good, if you use a good red dot sight, heavy barrel, skeleton or hipfire grip, marksmen kit (gives more ammo) and 6xc conv

  • @brandonrashall9157
    @brandonrashall9157 Жыл бұрын

    ive gone 30 n 15 in games with the NTW, did fairly well

  • @JTD2204
    @JTD2204 Жыл бұрын

    On the WA2000 please try my setup OKP-7 muzzle booster Skeleton grip Red laser 7.5mm conversion its effectively just a better k14, more rpm, torso kill range, semi auto and low recoil for a sniper

  • @yeeton10fps49
    @yeeton10fps49 Жыл бұрын

    they canged the bolting anymation on the Intervention because it now has a Straight Pull Bolt when using normals sights like Reflex or Iron Sights

  • @PhantomFPS491
    @PhantomFPS491 Жыл бұрын

    OMG YES

  • @AgentClover
    @AgentClover Жыл бұрын

    I just started using snipers and the intervention update was perfect for me :)

  • @GoopGuy73
    @GoopGuy73 Жыл бұрын

    AYYY SNOWY UPLOAD

  • @Ash13244
    @Ash13244 Жыл бұрын

    I used to use an obrezed(short barrel no stock) r700 w half ring sight in CQC and mid-range, the worst part is I had a decent kd with it (at least for me lol)

  • @somehonestwords8274
    @somehonestwords8274 Жыл бұрын

    Dude, you can get up to 4,6k velocity on ft300 and it’s so damn accurate. Amazing gun.

  • @djtmgaming2068
    @djtmgaming2068 Жыл бұрын

    I just hope we can edit our default retacle to what colour we want

  • @Cobalt_Hitron
    @Cobalt_Hitron Жыл бұрын

    Gets blasted into the air, "No I Hitmarkered" Lol

  • @robologo
    @robologo Жыл бұрын

    It's funny what the last gun can do

  • @julianthingvoll
    @julianthingvoll Жыл бұрын

    They should really just put the SVU into DMR because that’s really what it is. If you use it like a sniper, you’ll get poor results. However if you use it like the scar ssr, it slaps.

  • @yese2769

    @yese2769

    Жыл бұрын

    The thing is I snipe with dmrs so I don’t think it matters. A dmrs weak damage can be made up by their fast fire rate

  • @julianthingvoll

    @julianthingvoll

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yese2769 yes however they preform much better at close range than snipers, at least in my opinion. The same goes for the SVU which is good at medium and close range because of the headshot range but falls off at long range due to its poor velocity and long range damage.

  • @yese2769

    @yese2769

    Жыл бұрын

    @@julianthingvoll this is gonna sound weird but I main dmrs as snipers to the point that my longest shot was with one

  • @Armorpiercer

    @Armorpiercer

    Жыл бұрын

    if Stylis designates weapons class from its real world role, SVU is indeed sniper not really apply to games but just gonna say it

  • @razor4046
    @razor4046 Жыл бұрын

    NTW-20, 20x110 is as you know, 1 shot all ranges, better muzzle velo, 20x110+heavy barrel gives 42 studs pen and 3000 somewhat muzzle velo

  • @Phosphorite05
    @Phosphorite05 Жыл бұрын

    Glad the m107 wasn’t nerfed even more it still is my fav sniper that i have used. I might like the ntw better but I don’t think ill ever save up the credits to get it, can’t even think of getting it with rank

  • @copkillcop12
    @copkillcop12 Жыл бұрын

    Honestly I love to do wall bangs because they are pretty funny

  • @sushidood3388
    @sushidood3388 Жыл бұрын

    Goat Hecate stays the same

  • @Meeek
    @Meeek Жыл бұрын

    A NEW MEMBER HAS JOINED THE FT300 FAMILY!!!

  • @inkycat191
    @inkycat191 Жыл бұрын

    Yay my boi R700 still works great, unfortunately i stopped playing PF due to my horrible computer performance

  • @demonman1234
    @demonman1234 Жыл бұрын

    I got on one day (I main the K14 and only the K14 really) and was wondering why the body shot range felt way too short. Now I know why, but honestly I don't really mind, I still find the gun quite fun to use.

  • @TheLethal
    @TheLethal Жыл бұрын

    3:46 huh i wonder if its gonna hit a guy talking about making more tutorial videos

  • @randomknowledge3116
    @randomknowledge3116 Жыл бұрын

    I SAW YOU IN MY SEVER YESTERDAY

  • @randomknowledge3116

    @randomknowledge3116

    Жыл бұрын

    although it was before the video because you wre lvl 362 and you said so in chat

  • @tysplaysguitar
    @tysplaysguitar Жыл бұрын

    i love how the mosin got rework

  • @wier2920
    @wier2920 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a TRG-S user so I hope that conv is still fine

  • @isaacfox1874
    @isaacfox1874 Жыл бұрын

    The ntw council has something to say

  • @RedDeltix
    @RedDeltix Жыл бұрын

    NTW-20 superiority

  • @crusacean
    @crusacean Жыл бұрын

    Can you check if the FT300 with default ammo 1 shots torso? The previous stats had a 1 shot torso range of ~60 studs. The new update seems to not have a 1 shot torso range according to the stats; but the gun feels like it has a 1 shot torso when I used it ingame. (75 dmg * 1.33 torso multiplier = 99.75). Maybe its a rounding error with the way the stat is displayed?

  • @SnowyPF

    @SnowyPF

    Жыл бұрын

    it should yeah. the 1.33 is just rounded, actual value is 4/3

  • @crusacean

    @crusacean

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SnowyPF Thanks 👍

  • @jthablaidd
    @jthablaidd Жыл бұрын

    If stylis removes or does something similar to an attachment they need to refund it I remember when they changed the names of the ks23 long barrel and shells then magically I didn’t have them anymore and I didn’t even get a refund

  • @Aliceblue14195
    @Aliceblue14195 Жыл бұрын

    .375 Cheytac has been excellent at long ranged engagement, much more than default ammo IMO. Solely because one shot headshot with 3800 velocity is good enough. Torso kill range just doesn't matter much.

  • @nuke_m4n
    @nuke_m4n Жыл бұрын

    Theres so much gun that when i leave the game, it froze for 4-9 seconds

  • @henriquesenn1828
    @henriquesenn1828 Жыл бұрын

    It's only for me or for you guys too? the bullet cycling of the 2 dragunovs are very slow for me, I need to wait close to 1 sec to shoot it again

  • @Ncorpsinclair
    @Ncorpsinclair Жыл бұрын

    My boy intervention took hell of a nerf. 38 RPM sucks, but I'll still use it regardless. I want this change reverted though

  • @saviogustavi
    @saviogustavi Жыл бұрын

    * insert sniper's theme here *

  • @charles-zv5yx
    @charles-zv5yx Жыл бұрын

    snipers a good job mate

  • @plintus3318
    @plintus3318 Жыл бұрын

    i like using rem700 (model700) without sniper scope, like basic rifle

  • @battlexd9627
    @battlexd9627 Жыл бұрын

    The ak12br with 5.56 i think has 50 bullet but still full auto

  • @jayedt8059
    @jayedt8059 Жыл бұрын

    BFG remains untoutched. i love the bfg, got 5K on it

  • @marcusmennilli659
    @marcusmennilli659 Жыл бұрын

    snowy what do you think the best sniper is?

  • @bitesthedust69
    @bitesthedust69 Жыл бұрын

    Yup I felt this update hit me hard, like usually nerfs aren’t super noticeable, but gosh all the snipers are either okay, or suck now My poor r700…

  • @SnowyPF

    @SnowyPF

    Жыл бұрын

    r700 barely got changed besides a cool new conversion

  • @843Reboot

    @843Reboot

    Жыл бұрын

    whats the r700? me and my boys use that model 700

  • @bitesthedust69

    @bitesthedust69

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SnowyPF But the -1 minimum damage change! XD

  • @VOXGHG3
    @VOXGHG3 Жыл бұрын

    yea snipers are kind of gud like mosin high velosity

  • @oneoddturtle
    @oneoddturtle Жыл бұрын

    22 lr ft300 gives you free s bolt pull

  • @oliviaverchota751
    @oliviaverchota751 Жыл бұрын

    I actually don't like high zoom irons so I'm the one guy that will use the Mosin alt aim if I'm not using the Malcolm 3x like a hipster

  • @MercsTHEgoat
    @MercsTHEgoat Жыл бұрын

    Lol he tried to slip in that 6 joke😂

  • @Squeakky
    @Squeakky Жыл бұрын

    *g o o d m o r n I n g*

  • @skydestroyer219
    @skydestroyer219 Жыл бұрын

    Intervention don't one shot at torso at any range damage is 90 torso multiplier is 1.11 so 99.9 damage at torso.

  • @willywanker6328
    @willywanker6328 Жыл бұрын

    bro fr got exo jump

  • @willywanker6328

    @willywanker6328

    Жыл бұрын

    like ion even care bout the video anymore, bro playing AW while everyone else playing Battlefield 4

  • @NaisanSama
    @NaisanSama Жыл бұрын

    Getting your mic hit may be the biggest nerf to the AWM

  • @ninjastar2718
    @ninjastar2718 Жыл бұрын

    I got almost a 1000 kills with the model 700

  • @iulian-og3qq
    @iulian-og3qq Жыл бұрын

    You making me wanna play p f but i already no longer have the x and four on my keyboard ,i used a pen to press the x key and the four aint working and typing him self when he feels to =(

  • @JimmyEatDirt
    @JimmyEatDirt Жыл бұрын

    The Mosin 8mm nerf pisses me off. It's not an effective headshot gun at sniping ranges, it doesn't have the muzzle velocity of something like the Intervention that has shorter body shot range, you now load the magazine INDIVIDUALLY which is actual rectal cancer (the Henry .45-70 is single load, but it has a faster bolt and higher magazine capacity). The only thing the Mosin was good for was playing hard and fast, getting close to the enemy and having lightning fast reflexes to take on multiple targets. Now it can't even do that.

  • @pattyindustries
    @pattyindustries Жыл бұрын

    (wallbang enthusiast)

  • @lightz5264
    @lightz5264 Жыл бұрын

    So pretty sure im not the only one whos focusing on the game chat right?

  • @deralt4935
    @deralt4935 Жыл бұрын

    me when remington 700 got nerfed: why goodbye by r700 cqc setup me this update: hello k14 cqc setup

  • @who6515
    @who6515 Жыл бұрын

    HECATE II still ok thanks god

  • @dabraz
    @dabraz Жыл бұрын

    Well i guess the NTW-20 is the new bfg

  • @nikoli5794
    @nikoli5794 Жыл бұрын

    No changes to my favorite gun? SVU-A

  • @vladaul8465
    @vladaul8465 Жыл бұрын

    I use model 700 in close and far combat i use iron sight

  • @untrust2033
    @untrust2033 Жыл бұрын

    AWP conv is useless because of that velocity unless you run bt. All of these rebalances are so petty when 50 cals still exist with the only nerf so far being ads time

  • @SnowyPF

    @SnowyPF

    Жыл бұрын

    2800 velocity is not bad at all, im sure u could get thr hang of it pretty quickly. 20 more fire rate and 5 extra bullets is 100% worth the damage and velocity tradeoff.

  • @Lenevor
    @Lenevor Жыл бұрын

    Stylis trying not to make the most questionable and power creeping changes ever (impossible, they can’t balance)

  • @pattyindustries
    @pattyindustries Жыл бұрын

    NTW 20x110 mains rise up

  • @swolzer
    @swolzer Жыл бұрын

    where do you get change log

  • @dobermanngaming9050
    @dobermanngaming9050 Жыл бұрын

    Heavy barrel used to be default Now its an attachment

  • @pepsican1
    @pepsican1 Жыл бұрын

    sucks that they nerfed the awm it was so fun

  • @Glockwork9MM
    @Glockwork9MM Жыл бұрын

    Ever since the FT300 came out, I never thought it was bad besides the garbage 22lr conversion for the sniper rifle

  • @FAZE_SNAKE
    @FAZE_SNAKE Жыл бұрын

    I use the model 700 as a basic sniper in games. I fell bad for myself

  • @valornium
    @valornium Жыл бұрын

    Wait there was no Hecate change?

  • @arandomflowerpot
    @arandomflowerpot Жыл бұрын

    Can someone explain to me what 'handeling' exactly means, cause a lot of yt'ers talk abt it when they're talking abt guns and how it's better or worse but I don't really know what it is or how it effects your gun/playstyle

  • @bartoszdol

    @bartoszdol

    Жыл бұрын

    handeling is how the gun handles, for example the walkspeed, aim speed, reload speed, bolt speed etc.

  • @arandomflowerpot

    @arandomflowerpot

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bartoszdol ah thank you

  • @didnotsurvivenonutnovember8883
    @didnotsurvivenonutnovember8883 Жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one that put acog on Remington 700?

  • @firefurry2235
    @firefurry2235 Жыл бұрын

    they buffed the NTW? time for me to do some trolling.

  • @your-mom_was_here
    @your-mom_was_here Жыл бұрын

    Why you didn't cover some snipers

  • @Kodaiva
    @Kodaiva Жыл бұрын

    Wait they *buffed* the m107?

  • @trainanimator8150
    @trainanimator8150 Жыл бұрын

    the only reason why i play the SVU is because you fling the mag across the mag

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