I loved Lukes entrance for one reason. It pretty much finally showed what always is said and implied, but never before really has been shown. Just how scary force users are. The Dark Troopers are build up to this incredibly insurmountable obstacle. There killer machines a normal human is powerless against. Even with pretty much the best equipment you can get in the galaxy, even fighting one is a deadly confrontation you can't be sure to win. But to a Jedi? They are cannon fodder. And I really like how that puts some understanding in why certain things happened for a in universe reason. For example why everyone ran from Maul and left the Jedi to deal with him in EP1 despite everyone having blasters on them.

@SPQSpartacus

3 жыл бұрын

Also, it heightens what Luke chose to do in The Last Jedi. He scornfully asks If he is should just take on the First Order with a laser sword. This shows he actually Could. But it is not the right way. Instead he tries to teach Ben one Final time. He reaches for him, which is what Luke does. I have serious problems with the movie Last Jedi. But I think the Luke in Mandalorian enhanced the Luke in Last Jedi.

@RegPentagon

3 жыл бұрын

@@SPQSpartacus I hate TLJ and don't want the Mandolorian to do anything with it, but I can see your point, although the way Luke taunted his nephew really isn't the way he should be "teaching Ben one final time" (TLJ's depiction of Luke is really off).

@michelecastellotti9172

3 жыл бұрын

No it doesn't. He killed a bunch of redesigned B2 super battle droids (i refuse to call those things dark troopers, they are not dark troopers at all), by that logic Obi-wan kenobi is a god

@storyseeker6028

3 жыл бұрын

But Obi-wan is a god, you Heretic

@michelecastellotti9172

3 жыл бұрын

@@storyseeker6028 cant argue with that XD

I hard disagree with you about Luke. Luke had a whole movie trilogy to see him fail, fumble and try again. At this point Luke is a Jedi Master. He's looking for Jedi students. He's not going through some character progression or struggle to define who he is. He already had those moments. He supposed to be force of nature in that scene, literally the power of the force and its connection with Gogru. He's used as a Deus ex Machina and he is used well as fan service as well, he is not a character in this sense.

@georgegrogee5991

3 жыл бұрын

Seeing as the entirity of season 2 was about getting Grogu to a Jedi, and "the tragedy" was about Grogu posting on the Force's Craigslist for a Jedi to help him, having Luke arrive was in no way a deus ex machina. His appearance was predicted on innumerable news sites and web postings. To paraphrase GRR Martin, not everyone picks up on the clues and foreshadowing. And the "fan service" call is rubbish. Grogu is with Luke now. This wasn't a Vader hallway scene, ie a scene that could be cut from a film without affecting the story one iota. R2D2s appearance was a brilliant piece of writing that seems to have flown over the heads of people who haven't experienced, heard about or lack the empathy to imagine dropping off a kid at nursery for the first time. The people who said 'fan service' or claimed they recognising each other are whom I'm talking about.

@RonJohn63

3 жыл бұрын

Luke looks pretty (nay, REALLY) young to be a Master at anything.

@rollmacks5979

3 жыл бұрын

@@RonJohn63 he’s a master the moment defeats the empire in ROTJ

@MacNCheezeWhiz

3 жыл бұрын

@@RonJohn63 Obi-Wan was young too when he was a master. He was still in his 20s

@jcore0981

3 жыл бұрын

@@RonJohn63 Being a Jedi Master isn't based off of age, it's based off of experience and maturity. Obi-Wan wasn't particularly old. If we go by Ewan McGregor's real age he was only 34 when rots came out and he was already a master. Plus who else is there to be master. He's gotta step up eventually.

FINALLY, someone who understands why The Believer is the best episode. Conflict, development, and motivated action set pieces. I’m SO excited for Season 3 cause while the Mandalorian will obviously still tie into the larger universe (I mean it’s Disney), we’ll be free from the burden of the heavy lifting of back-door pilots. NARRATIVE AND CHARACTERS FIRST!

@andrewabraham7455

3 жыл бұрын

Also, Luke the inclusion of Luke is the CORRECT choice logically and canonically. However, the problem is it overshadows the end of Din and Grogu’s journey, the narrative heartbeat of the show.

@FullContactCoder

3 жыл бұрын

It's the only episode that isn't a steaming pile of shit.

@chrisbarnett5303

3 жыл бұрын

@MsLizzieDarcy Same. There was a charm to how small scale the Mandalorian was and it might be impossible to go back to that now. Obviously many talented people are working on but I can't help feel nervous about the direction its heading.

@blokey8

3 жыл бұрын

I thought it was a fairly common view (at least among the sceptics - I know Film Crit Hulk has said the same). Side note: unlike The Rise of Skywalker, it understands that you need more than vehicles going fast in the desert to do a convincing Mad Max homage.

@georgegrogee5991

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewabraham7455 Nah, it didn't overshadowed it

I think the pacing of The Tragedy was deliberate. You look at people's reaction videos to the episode, and you see near-uniform responses. The viewers geek the hell out when Boba shows up with his armor, then *BOOM*, the Razor Crest is destroyed, and the show reminds you just who's story this is.

@nicholaswinter5828

2 жыл бұрын

I agree and I wonder if we saw Boba after Grogu was taken would the feeling of despair still be there at the end of the episode

Personally I disagree slightly about some of the Luke stuff. Luke is not a protagonist in this story and has already had his character arc (his first one at least). We get to see the fully realized version of Luke we saw at the end of Return of the Jedi. Just because he was the protagonist at one point doesn’t mean we need to see him constantly fail or barely succeed. In fact I think giving him more of a struggle and a challenge to overcome might have been even more distracting from the main characters. At the end of the day, this is not Luke’s story and I’m happy to have him show up for a few minutes, give a little bit of a flourish, and then leave, especially when it fit so nicely with the rest of the plot.

@thinhvo3893

2 жыл бұрын

His argument is less about Luke being protagonist but more about Luke has no reason to be there if he has no meaning role. All he does is distracting the audiences

@ateam404

2 жыл бұрын

The only person I could understand Mando giving the Child to was Luke. It was still sad but left no room to say don’t do it.

Season 3 will probably focus on the struggle to reclaim Mandalore or Din might go back to being a bounty hunter since his primary mission of taking Grogu to a Jedi is completed.

@zakaryperrin7126

3 жыл бұрын

Either one sounds freaking awesome

@Bihgazisvepickice1

3 жыл бұрын

That would make for an interesting se3

@maxumus1019

3 жыл бұрын

Din is more person than a machine, at this point he cant just go back to being a bounty hunter and ignore the fact that he just has the darksaber in his hand, and he also has to face the armorer and the children of the watch, after he broke the biggest rules they had

As you said, a good Deus Ex Machina should come at a cost, Luke didn't come to help out of charity he came to take Grogu away, forcing Din to grow and admit his love for the little guy by removing his helmet and saying goodbye. Plus it's a huge sacrifice for the series itself since Grogu is basically an iconic face and money maker. Moreover Luke was at his prime by this moment, we all know he will die a sad old man by the last Jedi so why not making him look as cool as possible, after all, he was just a cameo not a main character of the series. I simply cannot agree with your critique of the finale.

@duchessofmelon9967

3 жыл бұрын

You know, until they have Din take Grogu back so he doesn't die when Ben turns to the dark side. I guarantee that's going to happen. If it doesn't happen in season 3, I bet it'll happen by the end of season 4.

@alejandrobalmaceda3378

3 жыл бұрын

@@duchessofmelon9967 "we all know he will die a sad old man by the last Jedi so why not making him look as cool as possible", you just define fanservice.

@hw5614

2 жыл бұрын

@@alejandrobalmaceda3378 If you are a fan of the original trilogy I expect a large part of them would rather see the sequel trilogy removed from canon. That would be true fanservice.

I recently watched The Mandalorian with two people who hadn't seen Star Wars and were only vaguely familiar with it through pop-culture osmosis. For them Luke's entrance worked without problem. One of them didn't even recognize it was Luke. And for both of them he was mostly defined as "the Jedi Grogu called in Chapter 14", not as Luke Skywalker. Ahsoka was a much bigger problem for them because of her being introduced without context.

@bjakeijzer

3 жыл бұрын

I know what you mean. I know someone who also didn't have context on Ahsoka and said he thought she was a villain at first because she started the episode cutting through soldiers in the style of a horror movie.

@andre3328

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting, what was their impression of her in the end? What do you think the episode could have done better? I watched a few reactions where people hadn't seen Clone Wars, but because of their viewers' hype they knew everything they needed to know and were kinda pressured to be positive about it. I'm curious about how she came across to "regular" viewers.

@ReasonBeing25

3 жыл бұрын

@@andre3328 This video is my first exposure to her outside of the Mandalorian, I had know idea until this moment she was an existing character in the star wars universe. I have to say that while the character was a bad ass, I didn't care much having another Jedi around. (Side note, my autocorrect replaced the word "jedi" with "jewish" and I did not notice at first. That would have been akward.)

I'll start this with i'm a child that grew up with the Original trilogy, Luke was my idol at the time and the reveal was for people like me but I've Gotta say i agreed with this whole video up until 27:22. I wasn't thinking at all about luke's face or his reveal I was completely absorbed into Mando's sacrifice of removing his helmet for Grogu, his character finally growing to that point. I think one of the worst parts of videos like these and the internet reactions in general is we have become so caught up IN those reactions. I was weeping with Joy when Luke showed up and not once did i see it as an action figure moment, instead I saw it as the last great Jedi tearing apart droids that were not designed to fight someone like him. They are a weapon of terror and oppression designed to push down regular people, not Jedi and certainly not Luke, so seeing him effortlessly shred them made perfect sense to me and also served to highlight just how powerful he is compared to our heroes. It makes me sad that for such a great analysis of season 2 this video falls short at the analysis of Luke's reveal because of the modern viewers brain of 'damn that face looks off'. Yeah my very first reaction was that it's come a long way and we have a ways to go before we can do perfect cgi faces but the Mando Grogu moment completely overtook that scene for me, the way it should. I didn't really see luke's entrance as 'fan service winning over great storytelling' because in the end his entrance WAS great storytelling. He doesn't need to be creative here like he was with Jabba, he doesn't need to negotiate with the droids he can obliterate because he has one clear objective: Meet the child. If these were stormtrooper he tore through I would completely agree with your thoughts about lack of negotiation and creativity but in the end they aren't and he can just shred through them to get to his goal. The entire time I was smiling through tears at seeing my hero arrive but the real emotion that was bringing those tears was sadness, Din was about to lose Grogu. I can't analyse story like you, your beats about Boba and Tano are spot on but I feel like you missed the mark with your section on Luke, to me at least, he served the story perfectly and what we got out of it was a moment between Din and Grogu that was building from the beginning and it was such a beautiful bittersweet moment that it resonated with me so much more than Luke's reveal.

@kimberlyplayer

3 жыл бұрын

I agree 100%. I grew up with the originals, too.

@ashb8205

3 жыл бұрын

Big Facts

@ericcabana8390

3 жыл бұрын

I felt like Luke's entrance was, to coin Georges Lucas, "poetic" in the sense it mirrored Vader's attempt to board the Tantive at the end of Rogue One.

@hw5614

2 жыл бұрын

I agree completely. I do think the travesty that is called the sequel trilogy made this moment even stronger. People that grew up with Luke Skywalker see him as a beacon of hope and strength and it hurt me a lot to see how they destroyed that charachter in the sequel trilogy without earning his change in character. This scene from the Mandalorian showed Luke Skywalker in his prime, powerful and inspiring hope to others. It's something people that loved the original trilogy have been hungry for for a long time, and this is the first time people got to see it. I truly enjoy the Mandalorian, I am just worried they will need to find ways to connect their stories to the sequel trilogy at some point, which is kind of impossible while still keeping the stories fun and entertaining to see.

@hyperballadbradx6486

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. The pain and love we saw between Mando and Grugo was incredible. That pull with the appearance of Luke heightened it. It was painful and beautiful to watch.

this is the first time that i hear that skylwakers hallway scene doenst work. it worked perfect for me and all of my friends. and i realy dont like how luke is wirtten in tlj

@charstringetje

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this guy is a Disney shill. The review has Mickey all over it.

In some way I kind of expected the second season to divide the fandom a little bit whilst the first season united the fandom a little more.

I think an important aspect of the Luke thing was to show a power difference. It is indulgent, but it also reminds the audience the power of a jedi in his prime as well as justifying the choice to alow him to train grogu. To me ot makes sense. And it's awesome to watch.

Apparently, Robert Rodriguez was chosen to direct Chapter 14 because the script was too short, hence Boba's fan service dragging it out to be longer

@joramsim

3 жыл бұрын

Yea exactly it's all in the behind the scenes. They'd have had a sub 20 Minutes Episode without all the action

@romanwachter

3 жыл бұрын

It also shows the old Maori culture through his transition with the sand people.

@Alexthemw3expert

3 жыл бұрын

Wasn’t it longer to introduce his show though?

Mandalorian Season 1 pitch: This is a separate and unique story set within a shadowy corner of the star wars universe Mandalorian Season 2 pitch: There is a returning character every other episode

20:35 yup,this was a good scene. It's so tense and Mayfeld is angry and Din is like "This is not goo- Aand he shot the bastard. Well, it's pew pew time." Just good stuff.

Honestly, this is exactly the way that I felt after the last episode but couldn't say why nearly as well. Good show.

@dahleno2014

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve only just started watching this video. But my biggest issue with the last episode was the fact that the threat was immediately removed by Luke. I think the scene would’ve payed off a lot better if they had started battling and were losing the fight, then Luke shows up to save the day. Kinda ruined it for me how they did it.

@georgegrogee5991

3 жыл бұрын

@@dahleno2014 it was perfect. Your "it wouldve been better if I had written it, but I won't say how", is laughable.

@thepoeticbutcher3370

3 жыл бұрын

@@georgegrogee5991 .......chill out.

@KydzPlays

3 жыл бұрын

@@georgegrogee5991 Not really. It was poor writing in my opinion.

@georgegrogee5991

3 жыл бұрын

@@KydzPlays Well, you write youtube comments, unimaginative ones.

I don’t think they resolved the drama between Mando and Bo Katan because they had to leave that thread open for season 3

Calling it: Omega is gonna pull up with her classic pure smile when she makes her live action debut.

I have never found someone with the exact same Mandalorian Season 2 opinions as me- I'm gonna treasure this video

I believe that the Luke that was see in the season 2 finale was a beautifully tragic contrast to the Luke that we see in The Last Jedi. Here we see him at his prime. The legend that the galaxy has seen him to be, and that it was the beginning of his spiritual downfall. I see people hating or loving each portrayal over the other, but I think that both enhances the character. In TLJ, he admits his hubris, and the line, "Because I was Luke Skywalker, Jedi Master. A legend." always gets to me. It's heartbreaking to see our favorite character go from the hero of the galaxy to a hopeless hermit, but that's what makes his story intriguing.

@rollmacks5979

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with what the last Jedi was trying to do with Lukes arc but they took it way too far. Luke trying to murder Ben was not necessary and the main reason TLJ is hated so much

@storyseeker6028

3 жыл бұрын

I just remember Mark’s line in that one interview of how a Jedi would never give up, maybe take some R&R, try to gather their thoughts on how to do better, but never give up. That’s more of what pissed me of about TLJ. But yes the Nephew killing shit was way too far.

@hw5614

2 жыл бұрын

It could have made his story intriguing if it was actually told. Now we only saw the end point which 100% conflicts to everything we know about him the last time we saw him. And there is no justification on his 180 character other than a throwaway line. That's just terrible story telling and is one of the reasons TLJ just fails massively.

Honestly as a massive Luke fan it's really comforting to just see someone feel the same way about this. I don't mind other people enjoying it, I don't like stomping over anyone else's parade. If anything I'm happy other people are able to take such pleasure in it despite myself not feeling the same way. However I felt very alone and that loneliness made me feel very disconnected from not just the fan base (which I often feel at odds with enough at times), but the franchise as a whole and my personal connection with it. Basically what I'm trying to say is thank you. Thank you for helping me not feel so alone, it's the best Star Wars day present I could ask for.

@Crunch630

3 жыл бұрын

Genuinely not baiting you; I'm interested in your answer. Did you enjoy Luke's treatment in The Last Jedi?

@ClintBandito

3 жыл бұрын

@@Crunch630 yes

@Crunch630

3 жыл бұрын

@@ClintBandito Ok, thanks. Just wanted to check.

@crazykey217

3 жыл бұрын

@@ClintBandito would you care to elaborate why you like it? Specifically how do you feel his running away is justified? Genuinely respectfully asking. I really have tried to love last jedi but I just can't understand or wrap my head around Luke's characteriziation, i feel like him being broken is a great concept in theory but wasnt pulled off. It was like we were told hes broken rather than shown. All we saw was a weird scene of him standing over kylo looking angry lol

@ClintBandito

3 жыл бұрын

@@crazykey217 Ok well bare with me. There's actually a lot I love, so I'll focus on your specific, but also bare in mind this is being written by a dyslexic at 8 am in the morning😂 It's still hard to know where to start, but I guess that's due to the film's justification very much not being limited to the flashback scenes themselves. There are 2 main layers to it, the external and the internal, the interweave, but it makes it easier for me if I separate them. (Also on top of my Dyslexia my autocorrect is a pain in the ass, I'll try to catch everything just bare in mind I might not) External is what we got from the very first trailer with the whole "it's time for the Jedi to end" and basically all the flaws with this this. This is explained obviously throughout the Rey lessons where he basically uses the failings of the Jedi in the prequel films as his justification. It's a crisis of faith in that regard which to question and disavow your life's beliefs and works that you've been dedicated to is hard for anyone to come to terms with and even come to terms with, but in Luke's case this is actually a far more proactive decision as Rian himself has explained was intentional that he didn't want him to just be hiding away like Yoda, but to have some purpose. So Luke has the goal of removing the Jedi from the equation because the evidence consistently portrays hypocrisy and destruction and their own hands now obviously Return of the Jedi would be the opposite of this and Luke directly gets called out on it, however Luke has now failed himself, but just can't admit it and is putting all the Jedi history out their as excuse and Justification. Why? Self loathing. This is one of the major reasons I love this film because I've experienced this myself for many years and I can tell you that Luke acts exactly as I'd expect him too in self loathing. One of the key elements is just constant shame, you are able to say oh no I suck, go find someone else I'll just cause more problems, because hating on yourself is easy, but at the same time you can't tell anyone why because it just hurts to much, because you can't actually bare for someone else to look at you the way you look at yourself, especially someone you love. So you still lie about why, which is why we get the Rashamon inspired flashbacks (which is off topic but I love the amount of Kurosawa influences A. Because it's one of George's biggest influences from the start B. I'm a bit of a Kurosawa fan boy and while every Star Wars film has the influences TLJ is just on Kurosawa steroids). This is also the key to what he's failing to do in passing on his failings as lessons which Yoda kindly breaks down for him (Also another side track "but we are what they grow beyond" just hits me every time in Yoda's subtle way of telling Luke he's proud of him). There are many more indications of his self loathing that I really appreciate, some in the suttle way he acts, some overt and dark like him standing on the edge of the cliff in his special Jedi robes for no explained reason. One of my favourite moments in the film is just when Luke bitterly says "because I was Luke Skywalker... a legend" just the way he says his own name with such resentment just hits me every time, but then also "a legend" goes a way to actually explaining why he hates himself so that's what I'll get to next. So this basically brings us to the the final Rashamon scene that you brought up as Luke finally honestly explains his perspective on events. Everything else we've learned about his feelings up till this point are a backbone to this scene. It's very intentional that Luke was having his doubts about the Jedi up until this, but obviously wasn't breaking him. He, Luke Skywalker was doing things the right way, he's the good man, the hero, he doesn't mess things up. Then he's sees all his worst nightmares happening right before his eyes and "in the briefest moment of pure instinct" he makes a mistake. He'd never actually do it of course, he is Luke Skywalker, he is ultimately a good man. It was a brief moment of instinct in the face of all his greatest nightmares... but that moment caused his nightmares to come true and in Ben's defining moments Luke made a mistake. Now all the death and destruction is his fault, but almost worst for Luke, he didn't just create a monster out of anyone, but his own Nephew. Now it's not entirely his fault Ben is his own disturbed man with his own choices, but more importantly than that Luke's mistake is frankly really understandable and human. Who in the face of seeing all their worst nightmares come true wouldn't at least have an instinctual thought of stopping it and then being the good man Luke immediately thought better of it and was ashamed it even came to mind. But here's the thing with self loathing, it comes from setting unreasonable expectations for yourself. He on some level bought into the legend which he himself when talks to Rey links those "because I was Luke Skywalker... a legend" to his failings with Kylo. He expected perfection from himself, but he's not perfect he's human, but when you set the expectation that you can never do anything wrong and not make mistakes then when you do it is devastatingly crushing especially when it is real and severe consequences and Luke's consequences are honestly something I can't even fathom. Ultimately Luke is wrong for hiding, I mean that's part of his character arch. In a way it isn't justified, but that's what self loathing and depression does to you. The emotions are unreasonable, but are largely uncontrollable. To Luke the reasons that fly through his head range from the grand I'll only cause more harm than good, the Jedi only makes things worse, to the very simple and personal he can't look his sister in the eye. It took me years to admit some of my mistakes to people and during avoiding them things get worse. Ultimately the people you love meet you with care and understanding, sometimes they need time, but if they love you they are always supportive. However when you hate yourself that much, it's hard to comprehend anyone looking at you more positively than you do. It's unreasonable but that's what bad mental health does. Erm I hope I've explained this well, I seem to have spent over an hour and a half writing it. Honestly wether something is explained well can be a very personal thing. Some people like me it was very clear, but for others like yourself it wasn't and that's perfectly fair. Let me know if you'd like to know more about my thoughts on Luke, I've already talked about it a lot on the Internet, but what's one more especially for people who ask respectfully. His arch meant a whole lot to me in TLJ particularly it's climax and honestly I was just pleased to get more of what I've always loved about Luke which is his humanity and character archs. Hope you have a great day.

I thought the Mandalorian Season 2 did a fantastic job in adding fan service with a well-balanced story telling.

@thinhvo3893

2 жыл бұрын

That is cool but for people like me it felt underwhelming. A lot of fan service mean nothing if you never that big of previous show and most of the time it felt empty. It felt like it made for little kid to show off their action figure rather than an emotional story with actual development. Not saying development doesn't exist but it completely drown out by hollow scene of fetch quest and unimportant plot that felt like filler as well fan service that serve only exist to set up next show rather than have any impact to the story

@thinhvo3893

2 жыл бұрын

@Cael Berglund If you can't handle criticism then dont bother to replied to my comment.

@TheAztecGamer123

2 жыл бұрын

@@thinhvo3893 I get what you're saying and so agree

@ninobrown4516

2 жыл бұрын

they make absolut shit

I think the Skywalker scene is fine. the setup for character conflict is what we are now spending a year anticipating and waiting for the catharsis. Luke himself is a mystery who says little, does enough and goes, mysterious figure takes baby to better place. bish bosh. The baby Yoda scene should defiitely have been focused on more though, it's almost like batman dropped his smoke bomb to disappear and baby yoda was thrown into the smoke to disappear too. It wasn't badly done, but it was clearly a lil too fast.

Showing Luke destroying the dark troopers without a care in the world doesn't make him an action figure, but highlights how powerful he is not only as a Jedi but compared to even the most skilled bounty hunters and droids in the universe. I'm sure he could sense the danger Grogu was in and diplomacy, especially against droids, was completely out of the question.

I think Season 2 was a reaction to what happened to Rise of Skywalker, and Disney essentially tasked the Mandalorian crew to save the entire franchise and start filling in all the plot holes that had been created by the latest trilogy of films. I loved season 2, don't get me wrong, but I could tell that this cluster of excellent episodes was also establishing the future of the entire world of Star Wars while also providing deeper details into why the events of Episodes VII-IX happened the way that they did.

@Werrf1

3 жыл бұрын

Rise of Skywalker wasn't the problem. Last Jedi was. Last Jedi insulted Star Wars fans and destroyed the fandbase. Mandalorian has been struggling to get them back. The Luke scene is literally the only reason a lot of people have decided to give Star Wars another chance.

@Ryuk45

3 жыл бұрын

@@Werrf1 Nah, Last Jedi was too good for this braindead fanbase, it's just that Mando season 2 proved that all fanboys want is the same shit they've already seen regurgitated back at them over and over again

@Werrf1

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ryuk45 Oh? What did you think was too good about it, the incoherent narrative, the pointless characters, the brainless action, the complete inconsistency from moment to moment, or the ignoring of the entire setting?

@Ryuk45

3 жыл бұрын

@@Werrf1 Keep seething about not muh Luke and keep enjoying your CGI frankenstein cartoon monster, you child

@Werrf1

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ryuk45 Awww, sorry to give you reasons. Keep enjoying your brainless entertainment, nothing stopping you.

I think you're misreading the significance of Boba Fett in Chapter 14. He's there for a couple of reasons. Firstly, he provides Din with another perspective on being Mandalorian. Firstly, he met Cobb Vanth, who wore Mandalorian armour, but was in no way a Mandalorian - but was still a good and honourable man. Then he met Bo-Katan, who was undeniably a Mandalorian - Mandalorian royalty, in fact - but was, honestly, kinda slimy. She writes Din off as a "religious zealot", demands his help in exchange for information, and then changes the terms of their deal when he can't back out. And now he meets Boba Fett, a man who doesn't claim to be Mandalorian, but who's a near-unstoppable fighter and a man of honour, who keeps his word even when Din says he doesn't have to. This is all about Din coming to terms with the fact that being Mandalorian is more complicated than it seems, and involves more than just keeping your helmet on. Secondly, for the audience Fett's return makes the Tragedy into an even bigger emotional whiplash. We just had the amazing punch-the-air moment of Boba Fett back on the screen after thirty-five years, finally kicking the arse that we always knew that he could. Then, just as we're cheering the awesomeness, there's a flash of red in the sky, and the Razor Crest, the ship we've come to love, disintegrates in a massive fireball. Din races back to the hill, but Grogu is gone. In less than a minute, we've gone from on top of the world to the "All is Lost" moment, and the impact is greater on _us,_ the audience, because of the emotional high of Boba Fett's triumphant return. You _could_ have done that without using Boba, but...why would you? They wanted an episode to reintroduce Boba Fett, and they used that introduction to heighten the emotional response to the narrative.

This was the same case with Rebels where the first season had a bit more of a stand-alone story and then season 2 piled on loads of references instead of trying to allow for its own story to grow

@RbkARI

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but Rebels only got better and better

@asianjared

3 жыл бұрын

@@RbkARI And I hope Mando does the same. With them getting these references and past characters out of the way, I'm hoping we can get a more stand-alone story from Din.

@movierates247

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but Rebels was never that good to start with. I think they were desperate the references would validate the show and make it better and for the most part (Ashoka and Thrawn had amazing moments) it didn’t work.

@asianjared

3 жыл бұрын

@@movierates247 I disagree. Rebels S1 is a lot better than CW S1 imho. Granted, that may be due to the time each one was released, but I used to dislike S1 of Rebels. However after my last rewatch, I really enjoyed S1 more than I did before.

@noonecaresbut8972

3 жыл бұрын

@@movierates247 Respectfully disagree. People hate on Rebels a lot, but I actually think season 1 of Rebels is better than CW S1 because it has practically no filler. If you rewatch Rebels season 1, every episode sets up something that the story comes back to either in the finale or in a future season. I personally appreciated the pay-off. It felt rewarding. The same isn't true for CW, which had filler episodes in practically every season. The 'references validating the show' is only an issue for me in season 2, but from S3 onwards, the original characters and plot lines are at the forefront. Thrawn's inclusion worked for me because he enhanced the original characters instead of taking spotlight away from them. Only through their development were they able to win, like how Kanan had to use his connection to the Bendu to save the day, or how Ezra used his knowledge to summon the Purrgil.

May is officially Star Wars month. “This is the May.”

I have to say, Mickey Mouse has never looked more badass.

@robochamp1

2 жыл бұрын

Did he show that character's face at all? Was it just to have mickey mouse representing disney there or was it to block that actor's face?

@kevpalm3071

2 жыл бұрын

Wh6 cover the face with mickey?

"the fulfillment of a fan power fantasy" thank you....I know some fans wanted a bad ass Luke scene for a long time but I wonder if it was the right decision to include it in that last episode. The focus Din/Grogu is shifted in that final moment to Luke. What if Luke showed up "bad ass" in the second to last episode or in the beginning of the last episode (similar to Ashokas entrance) so it doesnt overwhelm the "good bye" moment of Din and Grogu.

I love how you articulated my thoughts on episode 15 perfectly

Whilst I don't particulary agree with the balancing section for Ahsoka's introduction, I think she does sideline Mando a whole bunch, I still think this is the most reasonable in depth exploration of the show, specially Mando season 2. And I'm glad someone is finally able to look at it and not being blinded by all the fan service. Great job man, and yes "The Believer" is the best episode.

Consider - they didn't show Luke Skywalker as an action figure, they showed him as the legend. The one Rey was expecting to find.

@harlowfitzpatrick9031

3 жыл бұрын

That kind of just sounds like a cop out way of rephrasing the same idea. Still one dimensional and stale, especially compared to the ways the other established characters were incorporated.

@bjakeijzer

2 жыл бұрын

Here's the thing, anyone, writer or not, can easily put a kick-ass Luke in a scene and get aplause. It's really not that impressive at all. On top of that, there's no conversation or introductions between anyone there. Luke in the season 2 finale feels less like a character and more like robot than anything else. He doesn't have any question about who these people are, how they got Grogu or even what's going on on this IMPERIAL ship. Look, I love Luke too, he's a part of my childhood. And when he was cutting down Dark Troopers with that epic music even I got goosebumps and got a little emotional. But again, putting Luke in an awesome scene is not hard at all. Imagine if it wasn't Luke that showed up, but instead a random force-sensitive that we don't know or recognize from any other SW material, canon or not, and the scene happened the exact same way. How do you think people would've reacted to that? They would've likely talked along the lines of: "DJIN WHY DO YOU GIVE BABY YODA TO THIS RANDOM GUY YOU DON'T KNOW!!! I mean no disrespect to Filloni or Favreau, but this is honestly the laziest thing they could've done. It's like they opened our old toybox and said: "Look, it's this thing that you know."

Great to have you back. I tried making a similar video back at the end of last year but yours is much better researched and put together. Looking forward to see what you make next

I completely understand why they would bring back Bo Katan. She was the original owner of the Darksaber and her being in the Mandalorian is the direct link to going to Mandalore and retaking the planet. Ahsoka being in the show is similar to how Barry Allen appears in season 2 of Arrow just to go on to his own Spin-off. While when it comes to Boba well.... Temura isn't getting younger so now was the best time to bring him in.

My take on the Luke Skywalker scene was that it was about putting the Jedi in context. We see the heroes kick ass all the way through and then come up against the wall of the Dark Troopers. How effortlessly Luke cuts through them shows how a Jedi master is on a completely different level to the heroes of the show. It shows that the heroes aren't fantastically gifted - they're just like us. Not sure if this still works as a theory if you factor in the Asoka Tanno episode...

Okay, but consider my highly cerebral and academic argument: Luke Skywalker killing robots was very sexy.

People aren't going to like hearing it, but this essay outlines precisely why Luke's battle at the end of The Last Jedi is a better moment than his battle at the end of The Mandalorian. It's more in-character for Jedi Luke to outsmart his opponents than to literally crush them with the Force. I saw nothing of OG series Luke in that CGI creation, it was more reminiscent of Vader's attempt to take the plans back at the end of Rogue One.

I just finished watching the Mandalorian for the first time this week and this essay really sums up my mixed feelings about the series (or second season at least). Great job!

You're alive! Welcome back! Happy Star Wars Day! However, I request you consider it this way: As it was painfully obvious despite the good execution, these season was a multi-show backdoor pilot. But now that those shows are underway, this means that the next season of Mandalorian can focus more on the main storyline and where we left off

Love your videos, mate! Great analysis and excellent production as always.

Well those are some opinions. I have rebuttals but I don’t care in the end because it was cool to get your perspective but I still have my own.

Nice to see you are back!

HUGE whiplash at 5:43 when a that song played! I've spent hours listening to it over and over and over as it loops in Human Fall Flat... or at least a custom parkour level someone made.

Thank the maker. I've been waiting for someone to make a video like this. I couldn't agree more with everything that was said.

God damn! Just found your vids and i've been binge watching tons of them, you've got amazing flow and your editing is just so tight. Love you shit and keep it up cus i'll be looking forward to your next vid.

I've been trying to articulate these exact same thoughts regarding mandolorian. It started off as a western in space that had nothing to do with space wizards, to being a fan service fueled cameo laden nightmare. You know. The same reasons people hated the rise of Skywalker

@ArtDocHound

3 жыл бұрын

I like space wizards.

@azidal3755

3 жыл бұрын

@Ewan Callister I think the worst part about Palpatine was they should ha e been able to see that would t be well received considering the did that in the Dark Empire comics and it didn't do that well there either.

@CappnRob

3 жыл бұрын

It's almost as if context for how things are applied is what makes or breaks a story. Huh. Imagine that.

I disagree with your assessment of the Luke Skywalker portion of this season. Luke is entering into a situation in which he doesn't know anything about the intentions of the people that have Grogu and needs to establish himself as both a Jedi and an insurmountable warrior. And he does this without killing a single living person. He "deactivates" the droids and then politely explains that he is here for the child. It is our preconceived understanding of his character that makes us want more from him in this show, but his role is to show up, definitively, for Grogu and then take him away. We get just as much Luke as the story of The Mandalorian allows, regardless of how much we would all love a Luke Skywalker show.

While I agree is presence caused some issues, I like that Luke was allowed to show up this way. Cosnider: The Original Trilogy is about Lukes journey to become a Jedi Knight, and later Master. When he finally reapars in the Sequel Trilogy, his story is about him becoming disillusioned with the Jedi way and later reconnecting with it. Both of these are great, but we see him before and after, but never *while* he is in full Jedi Master mode. His appearence was the first time in the current canon to really fill that role, and I think it may set the stage for a proper filling of the admittedly wide gap between his RoTJ and TLJ versions of himself.

Very good analisys. Keep up the good work, man!

I mean... I understand how you feel about luke, but luke at this time was legit the equivalent to vader to the empire, his presence brings the end of the any conflict he is in. Shame we never got see this LUKE in the sequelss.....

I felt like Mando taking off his helmet in The Believer took a lot of the weight of him taking off his helmet in the next episode. I think you could have had him start to take off his helmet at the computer to show his willingness to do it, then have Mayfield stop him to show his willingness to respect Mando's and face his fear of the Imperial officer head on.

Katee Sackhoff appearing as Bo Katan finally in live-action was Awesome 👍 I preferred it to the thought of Ahsoka being played by Rosario Dawson, when they were still rumors. Once I actually saw her as Ahsoka I was fine, but I still enjoyed Bo Katan showing up much more. (But, that's just me. 😇✌) Edit; "the Tragedy" was CLEARLY the Razorcrest getting destroyed, I'm certain. (RIP Razorcrest)

Great breakdown. Love your perspective

Exactly!!! I’m not sure I’ve ever watched a piece like this that I agree with so totally as I do this one. Thanks for making this!

Luke being this powerful untouchable master in the scene is what he is supposed to be here, the Jedi master that learned in the OT and grows to be extremely powerful. This is Legends Luke that grows to be one of the greatest Force users in the Galaxy, to a force user these troopers are nothing, the following scene showing Din and Grogu saying goodbye is even more emotional with Luke’s lines. It completely worked for me while reminding fans what Luke Skywalker really is, not that mess of a character the Sequels tried to force on us

I do have a disagreement regarding "The Tragedy" and especially Boba Fett. After seeing how strong he is, and how easily he was able to deal with stormtroopers, you are lulled into a false sense of security. With two overpowered allies, what could possibly go wrong? And then you basically get the precise shot that obliterates the ship, and the big scary droid engaging in Grogu-napping, where you have to add Grogu's looks of terror. The tragedy is that in a few minutes Din lost his home, his ship and his child.

@camiloindart1218

3 жыл бұрын

that's a good point

@kennyholmes5196

3 жыл бұрын

And it also ends up boosting just how powerful Luke appears to be due to how those droids were shown to be just as strong as they looked intimidating when they nabbed Grogu with the point where one of them was able to go hand-to-hand against Din, which was followed by Luke subsequently going through them like they were nothing. Din only survived because of his beskar, while Luke had the beskar of being a Jedi in his prime.

I don’t think you can persuade or bargain with dark troopers. You speak well and I like your presentation but I respectfully disagree with your take. I cried when Luke turned up and Grogu left. I wasn’t thinking “that’s fan service”, I just enjoyed it. But to each their own.

God i love chapter 15, burr acted his ass off in the dramatic scene

I think the ultimate issue AND strength of Mandalorian I have is...well...the fan-service... One of the reasons I think Season1 was superior, was because the Mandolorian was engaged with it's own idea of Star Wars, and how it could explore concepts and ideas of the universe, the people that live in it, and how they interact, function and live with others. And Season 2 starts off that way, but slowly it descends into a string of fan-service and mentions to articles you can find on Wookipedia as if everybody know wants to treat the series as if it's an MCU installment referencing past stuff they know you already love. A prime example is Boba Fett. He has some decent parts in the original EU, and with the fact he was a Mando who betrayed his creed via working with the Empire, there's a lot you can do with his character and perhaps discuss concepts such as nationalism, political identity, political fallout, relations regarding separate creeds, and dynamics. Yet, when his character actually shows up, it's basically just another power fantasy we've already seen so many times in the series. Aside from a few lines, he might as well be holding a megaphone saying: "Don't worry guys! I'm no longer a loser! You can now wear my t-shirts without snooty people reminding I died like a little weenie!" for the majority of his scenes. And with Luke...I enjoyed it, don't get me wrong. He's my favorite character (really AFTER I saw VIII though) and is ultimately all about hope and inspiration, but the truth I think many need to accept is that when you strip away everything from the memorberries, it's all just weaponized nostalgia. Which is something the franchise doesn't need more of right now. Luke comes in, recreates a round of Battlefront II, says a few lines of superficial dialogue, and that's basically it. We don't learn more about him since the redemption of his father aside from the fact he's a better fighter, we don't learn more about what he means to all the Jedi know in the greater universe, and as much as people liked to say the LAST big thing Luke was in was "poorly-written", that spectacle at the end was a pure example of a dues-ex machina. And arguably NOT a good one. Parts of Season 2 effectively built this great relationship with Din and Grogu, and as they're sharing a great scene together, BOOM. It's interrupted by the sight of Luke's X-Wing. Such great momentum in the narrative comes to a sudden halt, and the whole story ends without proper pay-off as to what came before. Should we REALLY let all that go because you were overtaken by lightsaber action featuring a character you just wanted to see engage in destruction porn? It's like how so much of Raiden's unique character development in the Metal Gear franchise was undone when Kojima decided to make him a badass murder cyborg instead of the more interesting outlandish character we saw in 2 because the fanbase demanded they get a "cooler" hero. I didn't hate Mando S2. In fact, I still liked it. But when fan-service and sacrificing great moments in order to satisfy or even outright pander to the fans who seem to just want pre-2013 characters go on endless killing sprees starts to overtake everything, I start to get worried. I am hoping Season 3 gets back to the fleshed-out and dynamic unique elements of the universe we saw in the first season and first half of Season 2. If we see Luke again they should be fleshing out this engaging transition to a man uplifted by his first victory then strapped under the stress and worry of losing his new students and family members to darkness instead of...I don't know, telling people that anybody who thinks his child-murdering saber owned by his father is less than sacred is dumb? Or showing Han Solo as a perfect 1950's nuclear family father to Ben instead of a confused and perhaps misplaced rogue who just became a father which would be more inline than we saw them? Ugh. These characters are not action figures. They're...well...characters. Human beings with serious problems. It reminds me of why Lucas said he sold his franchise to Disney during that infamous interview in 2015. He thought the fanbase viewed it for an action figure spectacle instead of the soap opera he made it to be, and thus he sold it to a megacorp obsessed with easy surface-level appeal, and broad satisfaction. And with how much the fanbase wants Favreau to use this show to just feature MORE characters go on rampages and makes sure that people like Johnson never get near the franchise again, I say he was right.

My only problem with the Luke scene was how silent and expressionless the other characters were; moments before they were all preparing to die by these droids and suddenly they see a Jedi of all things, cutting through the same droids like butter... I felt like there should have been more of a response than Bo saying "A jedi?" and Gideon understandably terrified. Also I'd think there would have been some dialogue where someone bothered to tell Luke some of the things they've discovered like the imperial clone tank experiments and the Jedi blood harvesting.

Your channel deserves SOOOOOO much more love than 140K

Glad to have you back! LOVE your take on the last part: I should be in tears, but I think that CGI face technology still has some years to go... :D Also that TLJ was smart to avoid a super powerful luke just wiping out the whole First Order in a couple of hours

Fantastic breakdown mate. Subscribed

Excellent analysis. Love your take.

I'd argue that they also made a mistake with the framing of Ahsoka. They don't play her as a cautious, watchful fighter, but as an unstoppable badass (which Ahsoka was never about, all the way through TCW and Rebels). It also means that she doesn't have any emotional journey, she just has an objective, and then another objective which she gets upon completion, and it doesn't change her relationship to Din or vice versa.

The masking of Gina Carano's head with Mickey, why? I can speculate that it's for reasons of irony or a political stand except I'm unsure whether it's pro or con Gina. Does anyone know for suresies? Best. Leo.

@michaellarkin6168

3 жыл бұрын

I just assumed its a joke about how disney fired gina and her character will probably never be referred to again in star wars, masking her here is like pretending she never existed. Or somethin like that idk lol

@michaelbastraw1493

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaellarkin6168 I'll buy that for a dollar, Mike. Best. Leo.

@icebearcriminal1265

3 жыл бұрын

Probably because she's an embarrassment to the human race with all the alt right conspiracy shit?

@willswift94

2 жыл бұрын

@@icebearcriminal1265 Much like how you are an embarrassment to existence itself.

I see Mickey's been working out.

@thepoeticbutcher3370

3 жыл бұрын

.......Mick Dune..

@v-rex6262

3 жыл бұрын

@@thepoeticbutcher3370 I don't get it.

Glad to see you back

As an aside, I LOVE the Mickey cameo effectively removing that other actor

I’m 100% there with you about Luke. I’m also a bit confused; are we to assume Grogu is one of the students Kylo killed or recruited? Or did Luke take Grogu to the swamp where Yoda was? Wait, I mean, honestly that’d be an awesome show: Grogu gets dropped off at, was it Degoba(?), and Luke just tells him to survive by using the force, and leaves to look for more students. He could eat a bunch of yummy frogs I’m guessing

Very thought provoking observations. And I love Mickey I cackled every time😂

The Mandalorian with a two minute scene with Luke Skywalker does a better job at portraying the character than an entire trilogy aimed at "respecting the original characters".

@Ian-ky5hf

3 жыл бұрын

I agree.

What’s the deal with the Mickey face?

I feel like the inclusion of boba was justified since much like how seasion 1 revolved arround din's feelings towards droids season 2 revolved arround din's understanding of what it means to be a Mandalorian. (A conflict that began with IG-11) while I also hated how much of an "action figure" skywalker was, I can't help but suspect the "moment" he disrupted is a similar "setup"

Baby Yoda grew old stupid fast with the help of the internet.

Great analysis!

Glad I wasn't the only one to be concerned about how they revealed the new shows. Granted at the time, I don't think that the Star Wars TV Universe had been announced when Ahsoka's episode came out, but they still managed to make that work. I think Boba Fett's return reminded me of how Marvel tried to shove the overarching plot into Age of Ultron. It felt clunky. The Believer saved me from the fear that The Mandalorian would now be the primer for the new Star Wars TV Shows. Such a good episode.

The Luke appearance is the direct response to the "The Last Jedi". That's all. It was ment to unite the fans and show what it ment to be a Jedi. To that end, it did show fan service, but it was needed. The whole epusode 14 was the enforcing of Din having to make a decission on paying strict heed ti the dogna of the Night Watch, and recognizing being a Mandalorian is more than that. Even thougg Boba doesn't claim the Mandalorian title (to put a word on it), he is of Mandalore by blood line and has the right ro the armor. That, and the rebuke from Bo in episode 3 really germinates the idea in his head that the helmet and armor is not what defines the person. This comes to a head in "The Believer". I bet in season 3 and 4 we will see Din with his helmet off more. What will be interesting is if he comes across any of the Night Watch (if not all were wiped out on Nevar). This could also lead to a conclusion of Bo's arc. Din is willing to ignore the dogma of his helmet for the need of his mission and people. So shhould Bo ignore the story of the Darrk Saber.

I mean, especially with the Vader hallway scene comparison, I’d argue that Luke IS framed “villainously”-an emotional villain. Yes, mando’s quest was to bring grogu to the Jedi, but they JUST reunited and already must be separated again. In a way, Luke is serving as the antagonist in that emotional conflict.

To be honest, I didn't care for Vader's hallway scene for the same reason you described as Luke's; it's indulgent fan service. Vader never draws his lightsaber in A New Hope before reserving that honor for Obi-Wan Kenobi. In the opening battle on the Tantive IV, Vader doesn't charge in swinging his lightsaber; his Stormtroopers handle the Rebels so he doesn't get his hands dirty. By contrast, I think it's within Luke's character to charge in alone and use his Jedi abilities to turn the tides of a battle. That's essentially how it went with his rescue of Han from Jabba the Hutt. Besides, I enjoyed it as a payoff to Grogu reaching out with the Force a few episodes back.

My thoughts on the season exactly, only far more eloquently put. Great video!

Great points. Changed my mind.

I didn't mind Luke, I get why others didn't like all the nostalgia stuff. For me though, I do not understand why they can't do the de-aging. Everyone else can do this but Lucasfilms.

@katherinealvarez9216

3 жыл бұрын

@Ewan Callister Okay, I keep getting that wrong. But why is it so awkward?

@jasonpeacock9735

3 жыл бұрын

Odd isn’t it? Marvel, also owned by Disney, does amazing de-aging.

@kathymolnar8507

3 жыл бұрын

Watched videos showing the CGI used in the show versus Deep Fakes done to make side by side comparisons - Deep Fakes do look slightly better.

I personally loved the Luke scene when I saw it on KZread. The last jedi killed my love for star wars for so long, so hearing you say it was "smart" in any aspect confirmed that you and I generally just don't see star wars the same. The Luke scene felt like what I expected an experienced Luke to be like in The last Jedi thus I feel like they they finally got Luke "right"

I also really liked "The Believer", for pretty much all the reasons you listed. Good points about "action figure" Luke too - his appearance had already been spoiled for me when I watched the episode, so I just waited while he predictably slaughtered his way through the droids.

Such a good video dude

Agreed with your feelings about the season finale and that Bill Burr episode (I thought the latter was the best of the season). I disagree with the Boba Fett episode thoughts, though. I don't think he needs to "earn" his armor back. If anything, him taking it back feels more in line with his character to me, especially since it's needed for him to be useful in any attempt to stop the Child (re)-abduction.

The king has returned : )

I don’t know..... I never saw Luke that way, as a caricatures or action figure. Yes it was fan service 100% BUT it was well earned, a 30+ year payoff that fit the story it was leading up to... Every aspect of it hit perfectly. And if you were high on Luke the way I was, having grown up absolutely loving this franchise the emotional response and heightened emotional state Luke’s entrance puts you in makes Grugu’s departure even more heartfelt.... I literally cried because already had me teary.... I have to disagree, this episode did everything right to close the Mandalorian.... The only thing they co f have down better, well was the CGI.... And no I’m sorry, everything about the Last Jedi was wrong. It wasn’t just a bad movie just movie standards, that alone is bad.... No it was a worse film by Sci-fi standards and a horrible Star Wars film.... But the icing on the cake was how bad it handled Luke. Nothing about that character resembled Luke, it was a cliche cynical character who “sees the error in his way at the end of the film”..... The Luke of the Last Jedi is the caricature

@Hereth_Edits

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with the your take on the mandolorian disagree on your take of the last jedi. Agree to disagree.

@Nostripe361

3 жыл бұрын

@@sleepykhajiit1875 I disagree with you that Luke was done well in the Last Jedi. I'm not against them having Luke fallen from his path as a hero but what upset me about the way they did in TLJ was how abrupted his turn felt. The movie just made it feel like he came in one night, felt Ben was dangerous, and immediately pulled out his lightsaber. Luke has always had an optimistic streak so I feel that if he felt evil in Ben his first reaction would have been to try to find a way to stop it humanely and not immediately go for his lightsaber. I would have rather they had shown this fear eat away at him for a while before he snapped and pulled his lightsaber on Ben in a moment of weakness. Or show that it was Palpatine worming his way into Luke's brain and messing him up enough to do it. My problem with Luke in the new trilogy wasn't the idea but the execution. Overall I find the film to be very ... meh. Its okay but has some series issues that could have been fixed with more direction and a couple rewrites to make it flow better.

26:58 “There is no trying to persuade or bargain.” With 3rd Generation Dark Troopers? Welp, Kyle Reese said it best. Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there, it can’t be bargained with, it can’t be reasoned with, it doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear, and it absolutely will not stop... EVER, untill you are dead! Tf…

@endershepard7117

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you that Luke Skywalker is very creative and has a lot of personality and all of that. But don’t forget. Luke Skywalker didn’t try to persuade or bargain with the crew of The Death Star in Episode IV: A New Hope. Or Emperor Palpatine in Return of the Jedi. He straight tried to assassinate the Sith Emperor. And that’s what I’ve always loved about Luke Skywalker. He is not just some benevolent Angel of light. He has a dark side, too. Which makes him (in some ways) perfectly balanced, as all things should be. As Thanos the Mad Titan says, lol.

huh. funny you feel that way about the luke scene, cuz thats exactly how i feel about the ahsoka episode. i love the luke scene tho, and i dont think it contradicts TLJ's take on luke, the same way i dont think the latter contradicts luke's character arc conclusion in RoTJ. to each their own i guess. besides that, i agree completely with your analysis.

I don't mind how they portrayed Luke, but they did kind of mess up the Dark Troopers. Mando gets to fight a single one in this Terminator-inspired battle, but that's it. When all the Dark Troopers come back to the ship and start attacking, they do litteraly nothing. Just slamming at a door. It would've been great if they actually posed a threat. Let's say there's 20 of them and our heroes manage to deal with 10, but get cornered and have no more ways to deal with them. Now that would be a good moment for Luke to arrive. To deal with the remaining 10 by himself. Still giving him a cool moment, but at the same time giving the Dark Troopers time to shine as well before being turned into rubble. The problem with the Luke moment is that Luke does all the work. The Dark Troopers haven't really done anything yet and they get mowed down like regular Storm Troopers. Gideon's final attempt at killing Grogu would've been way more impactful if an actual fight was going on.

The big problem I have with season 2 is that, having almost no knowledge of Star Wars events outside of the movies, I felt like I wasn't allowed to enjoy the story by being constantly reminded that I wasn't "in the known", that I wasn't "a fan", and that this show definitely wasn't meant for the ones like me. Season 1 worked *perfectly* at being a space-western with great characters, "lore" only poping at the last minute with the dark saber's introduction. It served no narrative purpose and was really "a treat for the fans". With season 2, it has been made very clear that if people didn't know everything there was to know about the events unfolding, then they weren't welcome. The Grogu/Mando bits were good, really good, and when it's about the series' charaters, it still shines (Chapter 15 being indeed its best example), but it feels like the series has been hijacked to become a side-show for the animated series. This isn't really about Grogu and Mando anymore, this is about the dark saber, and all the mandalorians, and the jedis, and the whole of Star Wars, and the series loses any focus and any narrative/dramatic weight it had. I genuinely sighed when Luke appeared at the end (and the scene lacking any kind of impact to begin with didn't help). It reminds me of the Marvel movies, where you have to see everything and *be a fan* to understand and enjoy anything. This is not how narrative media works.

@goodmind4940

3 жыл бұрын

that's actually why Marvel movies are good, sometimes you have to reward hardcore fans for their lifelong investment

@goodmind4940

3 жыл бұрын

and it's what SW have been lacking, it has been constantly shitting and hating old fans for being invested and spitted in their faces

Who/what is that at 22:49 btwn B- Bad and Community? If I had to guess I'd say it's Bill Halder in Barry. But I didn't recognize that shot or scene at all, so I'm not at all sure

Right, who knew Bill was an acta?? 🤣 And that pause. 21:09 Din: *Dude* Mayfield *oooh right* Trooper: "ummm...I'm on luncOh Gawd I got shot!" 🤣🤣🤣 I must've rewatched that scene damn near 10 times during my first viewing lol

@chrisbarnett5303

3 жыл бұрын

Look at Billy Redballs ova there with the acting chops!

When mum says dinners ready but you go downstairs and it's still in the oven: 7:48

Thank you for saying what I've been telling everyone for months! It's a bad sign when the things that are being talked about the most are your cameos and not the main character.

@georgegrogee5991

3 жыл бұрын

No one's listening to you because you're talking rubbish.

@jameskruczek8626

3 жыл бұрын

@@georgegrogee5991 apparently they are or this video wouldn't exist and there wouldn't be so many up votes! 🙂

@georgegrogee5991

3 жыл бұрын

@@jameskruczek8626 You presently have 4 up votes. One of which is no doubt your own. Most impressive! This video is a poor analysis. The creator is obviously under 30, childless, and a big Ahsoka fan. The beautifully subtle storytelling in the show has one drawback, it often flies right over the heads of a lot of people. So pseuds such as yourself take to the Internet to denounce the "poor writing". The creators of the show flush more talent on a visit to the loo than there is in your family tree. D+ made over $10B from this one show. They created a classic. Something that you, nor the creator of this video, will never do. Stay jealous.

@jameskruczek8626

3 жыл бұрын

@@georgegrogee5991 your personal attacks say all I need to know about you. Good luck finding happiness. 👍

@georgegrogee5991

3 жыл бұрын

@@jameskruczek8626 ah, didums hands it out but can't take it. The insults followed facts.

Season 2 ~ Lets see how many shows we can set up

LUKES FACE LOOKS AMAZING. sure you can tell its cg but imo it rlly doesnt detract from the scene, its not scene ruining bad.