Hey everyone, Over the last few days, a lot of new eyes have seen this video, and I am endlessly grateful. As a result, I have seen a few comments regarding future content, so I just want to give anyone new an update on that: I am working on a new video, and I hope to release it later this year, but this is unfortunately not a full-time job, and I am in my first year of a Science Degree that has been taking up a lot of my time. You can check out my community posts for a record of what I have been doing since this video released about a year and a half ago. Thank you all for supporting the channel. The dream of going full time is always burning, and the support is just fuel to that fire.

@eyadokid

Ай бұрын

Absolutely stellar quality in your video. I hope to see your growth sky rocket, very well deserved. I’m glad this video reached the algorithm. Good luck in your studies as well. Excited to see your channel grow! 🎉🤝

@Madhu-yd1gw

Ай бұрын

This is possibly the best video about this case on KZread, can’t wait to see your future works

@tomorowsnobodys

Ай бұрын

The video is excellent but keep pursuing that degree don’t just stop because you hit the algorithm jackpot. I’m about to start a science degree this fall! Really, very good video though!

@banditoyt

Ай бұрын

Definitely putting my degree first. Trying to get that balance down between uni, youtube and then doing things that I enjoy outside of making videos. Best of luck with your degree. Head down and work hard.

@benhurj

Ай бұрын

​@@banditoyt Yes, good priorities man, but you have a knack for these kind of videos, well done.

Tone ✅ Non-AI voice ✅ Research ✅ Graphics ✅ Detail/effort ✅ Time length ✅ Subscribed ✅ Thank you for your hard work on this!

@musicauthority674

10 ай бұрын

Non AI voice? my ass.

@JacX1

4 ай бұрын

​@@musicauthority674 I think it's a real voice. Listen to his inflections. He can also raise and lower his voice. This is a human.

@itchyenvelope

Ай бұрын

@@musicauthority674 that is his real voice lmao

@user-if8sj1pq6j

Ай бұрын

Y'all really have to get a life. GET A LIFE.

@afterglowsword

Ай бұрын

@@user-if8sj1pq6j😂true

Ever since LEMMiNO made the Jack The Ripper and D.B. Cooper documentaries I was really looking forward one about the Zodiac Killer but looks like you beat him to it and stepped up. Thanks for the information about the events with well summarized and thorough details!

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully I did the style, and the case justice. Thank you for watching

@camwhitehall

10 ай бұрын

@user-on6xu4xu8j I wear short hair and glasses often but not in everyday life. Now I look nothing like the wanted poster.

@ashzole

9 ай бұрын

the first two cops 5:06 who got there , know more than they have told 😉

@turtleanton6539

3 ай бұрын

Yes

@billblaski9523

2 ай бұрын

Agree, definitely getting Lemmino vibes! And that's a good thing

Guy dropped one of the best documentaries on the Zodiac killer, then just disappears.

@huntclanhunt9697

23 күн бұрын

What if... Could he be...? Nah...

@stillunsolvedyt

20 күн бұрын

@@huntclanhunt9697 you know...

@COSMIC_SECRET

19 күн бұрын

He could be hiding out until he thinks he’s safe as the zodiac killer is still out there and probably still alive

It's still so insane that we only missed this guy because the dispatcher said he was black.

@Brandon-nr8fn

4 ай бұрын

Everyone is black at night.

@Brandon-nr8fn

4 ай бұрын

They saw a man, not zodiac

@Iamsnuggles

3 ай бұрын

Good ol’ police incompetence again

@chazmichaelmichaels88

28 күн бұрын

​@Iamsnuggles again? You're however old and haven't been murdered..

@BeeepMe911

27 күн бұрын

@@Brandon-nr8fnwhat an idiot lol

This is by far the most thorough, informative and well connected retelling of the Zodiac and this is the first documentary that actually explains why was he called the Zodiac . It is frustrating and disappointing that it was never confirmed who he was till this day..

@turtleanton6539

3 ай бұрын

Yrs inde3d😊

@gencass111

Ай бұрын

The Zodiac is in his/her 80s-100s nowadays. Might be dead already.

A woman asked to stop at the very next gas station, but he kept on driving, saying it was the wrong brand: Zodiac.

@venicalfebgaming73

28 күн бұрын

"My car takes diesel.."

I can definitely see the inspiration you've got from Lemmino after having watched a bit more of this. Even the recorded type voice when you read quotes from witnesses and news articles. I love this style please keep it that way its high level stuff.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

That's the plan. I absolutely love LEMMiNO's work. Maybe one day I'll have a big enough channel to do a collaboration with him.

@mrfrundles4645

Жыл бұрын

I was going to say the same thing continue this please

I’ve seen dozens of documentaries on Zodiac, and this one is among the most well researched and gripping I’ve experienced. Look forward to seeing more of your work!

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I appreciate it. I look forward to making more content.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

@@mydogs5040 Not planning on sticking with the case. I'm working on a completely different video.

@mydogs5040

Жыл бұрын

@@banditoyt Well he has passed on recently so it is just as well.

This was probably the best coverage of Zodiac I've come across. Well done and thank you.

If you keep pumping out impressive videos like this, this channel will definitely blow up.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Here's hoping. Thank you

@HellAintHalfFull

Жыл бұрын

@@banditoyt No problem. What will the next video be about? This is just a recommendation, but have you ever heard of The Brabant Killers? A group of three ruthless killers who held Belgium in thrall from 1982-1985. They killed without discrimination, and the case remains unsolved. It's a case that not a lot of KZreadrs have touched on. Could be interesting.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

I have heard of them yes, but quite honestly, I totally forgot about them. Might look into that. Right now I am currently researching multiple subjects, and at the start of next year I will lock onto one and focus on that. At the moment, it's looking like the next video will be the disappearance of Amelia Earhart.

@HellAintHalfFull

Жыл бұрын

@@banditoyt I wish you nothing but luck in your future endeavors. Keep pumping out quality videos like this, and the algorithm will shine upon you. But would you at least consider doing a video on The Brabant Killers?

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

I will most definitely consider it, and if there is enough good, reliable information, I can almost guarantee that I will make a video on them in the future.

I really hope this blows up soon. The quality in story-telling, pacing and visuals are from another dimension!

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Really appreciate that. I was pretty insecure about the writing and how I delivered it, but the overall feedback does seem to be positive.

Woah. Love this twist on animation and editing. I'm sure it took a lot of time, effort and dedication to be this thorough, yet succinctly relevant to keep your viewers hooked to an account told and retold so many times. I'm sure you'll soon get all the recognition you deserve! Got yourself another sub!

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated. Thank you for the positive feedback. It took me quite some time to make this video, and seeing that people actually like it is a great motivator. Hopefully the next video can be even better

@MrSimplehuman

Жыл бұрын

Looking forward to it! 👍🏼

@dorzy207

Жыл бұрын

@@MrSimplehuman me too

@bobtaylor170

Жыл бұрын

There is a true crime channel which uses animation so tasteless it's astonishing. This, on the other hand, is well done.

@maneckineckbeard1749

Жыл бұрын

Same here! Count me as a new sub!

Man came out of nowhere and dropped one of the highest quality KZread documentaries I’ve ever watched. You earned yourself a new subscriber, looking forward to what you make next!

When a KZreadr with one single video has almost 10k subscribers, you KNOW you’re in for a pretty damn good video. Was not disappointed in any way, I very much look forward to more like this!

It always amazes me how talented people are on KZread and how they can make way more compelling and in depth docs than full studio supported documentary crews. I'm glad I found you and look forward to more of your work!

Allen lived 4 doors down from my grandparents and dated my mom.... Your video is good. We always felt this guy was the one

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

What! That's incredible!

@leejohnston2003

Жыл бұрын

I'm convinced it was Allen to

@billblaski9523

2 ай бұрын

It was Lawrence Kaye😊

This is an amazing introduction and guide to Zodiac and his crimes, including stuff I as a long time researcher did not know. Thanks for the excellent work!

This was one of the best and we'll researched documentary on zodiac , no extra details yet covering every necessary detail .. absolutely loved it , keep up the good work

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. It's always nice to to hear that my hard work was right, at least😅

I watch a lot of Zodiac videos on KZread and this is one of the best ones I’ve seen! Great narration and great visuals!

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the compliments. I'm happy you enjoyed it.

I'm not ashamed to admit that the early part about the person who was pursued by the mystery Chevy literally made my skin crawl- the hair was actually rising on my arms- and I'm only a few minutes in! SO spooky, and the starkly novel animation & unobtrusive music only highlighted the creepiness. Very professionally created. Well done!

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I admit, I never expected such a reaction, but I am pleased that I managed to get a reaction😅

@maneckineckbeard1749

Жыл бұрын

@@banditoyt Your research is also SO thorough; I've watched a great many documentaries on this subject, and the this is the first time I've heard some of that info you gleaned from the very early police reports. I'm almost certain I've never heard anything about "Peggy" the witness, the mysterious "George," nor that one of the early victims had told a babysitter she'd been threatened previously. I've also never heard that anyone specifically described the attacker as not wearing glasses, or that 3 women reported a suspicious man loitering around before the lake Berryessa (sp?) attacks. Even the professionally produced TV documentaries never mentioned any of the above. Also, FWIW, "The Most Dangerous Game" was one of my dad's favorite stories as a kid, and according to him it was required reading for many students in the 1930s-40s. This is definitely one of those supremely disturbing cases, considering the fact that the killer was never caught. I know the likelihood is that he's no longer alive, which almost makes this more creepy. Just the thought that he COULD technically somehow still be out there, walking free...ooh, it gives me chills!

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

I'm pleased to hear that. The research took longer than the editing after all, so I am happy that my effort was worth it.

This is exactly what I am looking for and would love to see more from this channel. Very well done!

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I'm looking forward to making more content.

This was very well done! Way better than any television documentary. This was professionally put together and well narrated. Fantastic job!

Production value feels through the roof! Great job with the VA as well

This is impressive editing. Hope this gets the recognition it deserves

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Love it when you discover a new channel that instantly holds your attention 🎯

You, Lemmino, and Real Horror are my favorite true crime channels with how well researched, well written, and beautifully styled your videos are

Holy crap dude, you’ve done an incredible job. PLEASE make more!!!

This is probably the highest quality video I have seen in a while, and the most interesting video I have watched on the Zodiac Killer. Man I hope more videos are on the way

I'm looking forward to this!!! Thank you for the video. I've always been fascinated by this specific serial killer.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

I hope you enjoy it

Fantastic video. Research like this must take forever and be very tiring at times, but it ends up making a great video such as this one. What a pay off. Hope to see more. Amazing job.

This is a brilliant presentation......the animations really add a wider scope to the scenes. Great work.

Such a great job, one of the best zodiac killer documentaries I've seen

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Appreciate the compliment. I worked hard on this video, so it's motivating seeing comments like yours.

This is insanely well made for a channel’s first video. Excited to see what kind of videos you make next.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Trust me, I had some practice with another old channel of mine floating around this site. I'm excited for the future as well, but it will take time. This video took a great amount of effort to make, so I won't be pumping these out by the month.

This video is just amazing. I've watched a few other Zodiac videos and they've always left me a bit confused but the clear and concise way you put things along with the fantastic animations made me finally understand. Eagerly waiting for your next video!

Can't believe this is your only video so far. Will definitely be watching your channel with interest.

Really incredible to watch! Love the editing and the animations🔥

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Love you bro

Great work man. I am a sucker for this type of documentary, and I thought you are an experienced creator, but it turned out this is your first video. Hope you are going to produce more work in the future.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

I'm starting work on the next video when December ends. Won't be out for a while though. I am happy you enjoyed it.

I watched this months ago and immediately subscribed. Upon seeing you in my Subscriptions I forgot who you were so I checked and I'm not watching this video AGAIN because I remembered how good it is.

This is unbelievably good. Well done. Looking forward to your future work.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Tnank you

I have to say, I think I've watched most well-constructed videos out there on this case and, besides how commonly known the events of the Zodiac killings are, you still managed to pull off a fresh and original take. Kudos. I've subbed. All the best for the New Year.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you - much appreciated. All the best.

Such great content! Thank you! So glad this channel came up on my home page!

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for giving me a chance. Hopefully my content can only improve from here

Wow, this is great, can’t wait for future uploads

Amazing, loved the audio and the quality of the editing. Keep going man!!

I really appreciate all of the time and effort that went into this video. The least I can do is give it a like and subscribe. Excellent work.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated.

Incredible video bro! Video production was spot on 👌

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Appreciate that you took the time to watch it.

Thouroulgy enjoyed watching this & hope to see more. Thank you for sharing 👍🏼

this feels just like a lemmino video, thank you man for delivering this documentary and i’ll be waiting for more

Amount of work and quality is just commendable. Subscribed in a heartbeat.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much ❤️

@adrianwolff2007

Жыл бұрын

@@banditoyt Wish you all the good luck.

If you enjoyed the video, please consider leaving a like, a comment and subscribing. It is completely free and it helps me out enormously.

@MrJsv650

Жыл бұрын

Nice 👍 job , I subbed I'm excited for any more content you put out.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@swankybutters8371

Жыл бұрын

Don Cheney... You got the name right!!! Thank you so much for this, so many people get it wrong... This was great stuff man, wonderful work... Oh and I love the name as well. Bandit, how perfect... Oh, not too sure about Ray Davis, I'm 60% on that one... However, I do believe he did Robert Domingos and Linda Edwards, almost sure of it... As well as Cheri Jo Bates almost sure... Donna Ann Lass, I don't believe was Zodiac... Sorry, I had to fix my spelling below... Not as sharp as I use to be.

@swankybutters8371

Жыл бұрын

You have done such a great job here... Hats off to you man... I also can not see anyone but Zodiac being Arthur Leigh Allen... I have my reasons and my thoughts. Your first run at ALA is pretty bang on... The Stine witness by that I believe you mean the 3 kids, Fouke and Zelms. Now, they said it was a black guy and if I had to guess (and it's just a guess) that Zodiac called into the cab co and said there was a black man attacking the driver, just my guess. As for the kids, I think they were too far away to get a good look at him and I believe the same with Fouke and Zelms, they were not close enough to get a really good look at him and it's only after they realize they were looking for a white man did they try to remember what he looked like. The one thing I believe they got right is the nose... As for prints, I don't think he ever left any... As for DNA, it's known he had other people lick his stamps for him... And most recently they tested his stamps to someone else and it was a match but it was said, he was not the Zodiac, not sure what to make of that yet but this came from Tom Voigt... Worth a look. As of the glasses, I believe he totally used them when he did his thing, along with a wig, which I am pretty sure he used when he was killing. As for ambidextrous, totally seemed like he was faking it cause everyone who knew him, said he would right with both hands and said Leigh didn't have a preference for either his left or right hand... The last time they saw him, before he died, they found quite a bit of evidence, bombs, his typewriter, etc. In any case, you did great man and I'm so happy you see something here, I do as well. Great work!!!

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

It's great seeing people get involved in the comments with their own theories and draw their own conclusions.

I've seen docs over and over this was well done

Great graphics. Lots of work went into this. Good job👍

The amount of effort you put into this is insane

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

'Preciate you bro🥺

Wish you posted more than every 6 months! But I understand this editing takes time but this is absolutely amazing bro! Keep it up!

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

That's the unfortunate trade off... Maybe one day I can run this channel full time and I can push out more videos, but I'm a long way off achieving that.

Subscribed immediately. Can’t wait to see what you have in store next!

Nice. Hope you seriously do your thing more often. This was done very well and I enjoyed it. So much crap out there I was lucky to run into this.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

I am starting work on the next video when the new year starts. Just want to take some time off and spend it with the family. Unfortunately, these videos do take a while to make, so I wouldn't expect an upload until at the earliest April 2023, but it's looking more likely to be a June/July 2023 video

This is so good ! Bigger things coming your way:)

One of the greatest videos I have ever seen. I love the animation style, feels like Lemmino's Jack The Ripper video. Good job and hope to see more!

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

That's quite the compliment. Thank you.

This is One of the best documentary i have ever seen, the style is so interesting and captivating. Hope you do more in the future

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

That's the plan. Thank you for the kind words

Awesome! Glad this came up on my feed! Looking forward to where this channel goes! Bravo!

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching, Nick. Hopefully I can make it worth your time with my future projects.

This channel has great potential. Looking forward to more such contents.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I have a lot planned, but it will take some time. Hopefully by that time, people will still be around and willing to watch my content.

Really good video. High marks on the information accuracy and video quality. I'm sure one or two things that were minor may have been off (someone will point them out), but overall, this was a fair presentation and assessment.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching it. I tried my absolute best to get good information for this video. Hopefully people will be kind enough to point them out so that I may correct them on my Discord and in the description.

This is really good stuff. Nice graphics, interesting voice, also solid correct information.

What a great video and awesome visuals! Quality content 👍

The animations and editing alone deserve a million+ views. Great job, mate!

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Maybe one day hey?

@MadMax-de5uh

Жыл бұрын

Definitely one day

This is impressive work. You just gained a subscriber my friend. Never thought I’d find another channel on par with Lemmino.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

That's very kind of you, but I must admit, LEMMiNO is still a step or two ahead of me in quality. That man's videos are insanely good.

@Kspat2

Жыл бұрын

@@banditoyt Yeah he is world class, but I enjoyed yours as well.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Hopefully I can just improve my content from here onwards.

I hope you post more videos soon. You put a lot of effort into this video well done.

Amazing! Love it!

Honestly man, this channel and video are criminally underrated. Outstanding job!

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@swankybutters8371

Жыл бұрын

Right! Bandito is on his game...

@ChairmanPaulieD

Жыл бұрын

@@swankybutters8371 NICE Profile image BTW 👍🏽 👌🏽🤙🏽

@swankybutters8371

Жыл бұрын

@@ChairmanPaulieD Profile image? Sorry, I'm old and no always on my game... lol

@ChairmanPaulieD

Жыл бұрын

@@swankybutters8371 the Zodiac cross and circle image is what I’m referring to 🤙🏽

dawg i am seriously hoping youre currently working on a masterpiece of a documentary because this one was so good.

Really good documentary 🤙. I am, and have always been, fascinated by this case. Just so tragic/crazy and no one was ever found.

Wow, this is really impressive. Your channel will blow up in the future, trust me.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Here's hoping. Thank you

Bro was the larping the real life riddler lol

This is an amazing video and now i feel like watching the Zodiac movie again! You have definitely earned a loyal subscriber :)

Great documentary keep em coming

The Quality of this video is insane. SO CRIMINAL that you have so little subscribers. Hope all the best for you!

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. It's humbling seeing comments like these. Making these videos is a long process and the motivation isn't always there, but seeing comments like these is exactly the drive I need every now and then. All the best

@DocuEnigmaYT

Жыл бұрын

@@banditoyt im not trying to self- promote or anything, but seeing this video made me want to work on a video of my own. thank you for fueling a drive to create that i haven't had in a long time (If you do consider this self-promo then you can take it down by all means!)

Wicked video mate! Greetings from UK! Keep it up.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. Appreciate the support.

@tombaugh7638

Жыл бұрын

Looking forward to the next one boss! Merry Christmas!

Only just discovered your videos and your channel. Please keep doing your thing, you are one of youtube's hidden gems.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. That is very kind.

I find myself watching this a lot...ha! It's just so well done!

Amazing!!! Will you make more videos?

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Already working on the next video👀

Idk how i keep finding these amazing undeservedly small channels with such premium quality i wish you great luck and i pray for you that the youtube algorithm god will make you blow up

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate it. I received the email about an hour ago that I have been accepted into the KZread Partner Program, so it's all moving quite fast for me already😅

@genzphilosoph-e

Жыл бұрын

Wish you the best and id say to just make content you love rather then what the masses want

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

@@genzphilosoph-e Thank you. Hopefully, this is just the beginning👊

This really scratched my LEMMiNO itch. Thank you! Please keep pumpning out videos like this 🤩

Please keep posting this is amazing

You sir have done a great job with this zodiac video. Think your channel will go viral with this type of content 👍🏻🙂👏🏻👏🏻

Excellent presentation. Never tire of the Zodiac

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking time to watch it

@pyewackett5

Жыл бұрын

@@banditoyt Hey, thankYOU. Have seen many many docs/films on Zodiac & yours was top rate. Far more memorable than most. Incidently , I've always found Darlene's first husband Jim Phillip Crabtree an interesting character. Darlene probably met her 'stalker' thru Jim.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words. The Zodiac case is quite intriguing and quite special. I have read comments both here, and on Reddit, and it's fascinating to see how many theories and suspects there really are. In the video I chose to focus on my personal prefered suspect, and two more "obscure" ones. But ultimately, the goal of the video was not to make anyone agree with my conclussion, but instead to present the facts, give some personal insight, and allow the viewer to be inspired to form their own conclusions, or to do their own research. So it is motivating seeing so many, including yourself, throw out your own prefered suspects and theories. Absolutely love it.

@pyewackett5

Жыл бұрын

@@banditoyt I fully agree . It's a fascinating & unusual case. Looking forward to yr future productions !

Not only was this interesting as a documentary, it was a beautiful cinematic experience. Bravo.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much.

I swear bro I love crime channels with great visuals like this you just earned a new subscriber bro .

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that

Amazing video! Thank you for putting hard work into this.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

And thank you for watching it. I appreciate it so much.

A strange case, you have a killer who lets two of his victims survive and another live for two days before succumbing, lets one escape completely and uses a .22. One who doesn't wear a mask to kill, but then decides to for the third killing. But not any old mask..... He has a gun but decides to stab, which he obviously wasn't very good at. Kills very/ young couples and threatens school kids....but then kills a cab driver. He definitely had more energy for killing the females and it seems he almost killed the male through necessity. also.... he goes to a killing scene wearing a mask and glasses ( disguise), then doesn't kill either of them before leaving them for dead... so the victims can give a description of him. It's almost like he wanted them to survive .To me this suggests a man who was out of luck with the ladies at high school, didn't fit in at school and wanted to hurt the world like it had hurt him. I could also see it being like th ABC point story where perhaps Darlene is the target . He may well have been murder for hire, at least to an extent, but also liked doing it.

genuinely shocked you dont have at least 100k subs, excellent video dude

i’m 30 seconds in and i’m already impressed, will update when i finish. Update: Fantastically paced and well-written. Incredible work and you’ve earned my subscription. Keep it up

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. That's very kind

And just when the world needed him most - he vanished. This was incredible, hope you continue making content

please keep doing these

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Already have the next video in the works

laaaas go more good documentaries to watch, got bored of rewatching lemmino videos.keep up the good work ma man

Outstanding presentation of this case. Subscribed!

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated. Hopefully I can keep improving from here on out.

This is surprisingly good for how small your channel is. Kind of reminds me of Lemmino. Edit: I mean that as a compliment

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

No worries, I took it as such. And I do appreciate it. LEMMiNO was the inspiration behind this entire video and the channel, so the comparison is a massive compliment. Thank you.

Wow! This is very well done! And even contained information I didn't know about despite being interested in this case for yours! I'm convinced Arthur isn't the Zodiac Killer, personally.And I thought that the driver had threatened to kill the woman and throw her baby out the window? Either way, great video, you earned a subscriber!

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I appreciate it. My first time warching the Zldiac movie was after doing research for this video, and I found it interesting that they had the driver threaten Johns. Probably just for dramatic effect.

@aova687

Жыл бұрын

@@banditoyt I see, but I heard it from other sources as well. The lack of consistency about this case in my eyes is as fascinating as it is frustrating.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Completely agree with you. This video was shared on the Zodiac Killer subreddit, and even there people had misconceptions, at least, that is in regards to my research. Most of my research was done using the police reports from the cases, and I have noticed many of the disputed facts are in cases where the noted person, or someone close to them, disputed it after the fact. So when even the involved people are somewhat changing their stories, getting the correct one is difficult.

Amazing work!

Very well made video, thank you for posting it

@banditoyt

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching it.

This is an excellent video, probably the best rundown of the probative evidence in the case I've seen. It was probably a wise decision to keep the discussion over the ciphers to a minimum, as well as the various literary references (real or imagined) that appear in his letters. From what I've seen, those topics tend to invite a lot of extraneous speculation that goes nowhere and makes an otherwise fairly straightforward canon of crimes needlessly complicated. There has never been new _real_ evidence that has come from that line of inquiry. I know that it's out of LEMMINO's bag of tricks, but rendering the layout of the crime scenes and the locations of witnesses is an excellent edition that I have not seen done well in any other documentary and that alone, in my opinion, would make me recommend this video first to anyone interested in the case. There are only a few things I would say could have been useful inclusions (not that you're remaking this just because some genius writes a comment). First, a clearer overview of the neighborhood of Pacific Heights and the immediate area around Washington and Cherry, up to the Presidio (the area of the Stine murder), as well as the cab route that Stine took, beginning I believe at the downtown theater district. I think it's sort of important to understand that since you bring up where Lawrence Kane was living at the time and that it was relatively close to the pick-up point. Of note, it was A) a major population center that was the central hub of the entire region, so a lot of people lived there and B) the killer departed the scene heading north and away from central SF towards the Golden Gate bridge, and that's also the direction of all the other canonical crimes. Whether he actually left SF or stayed in the Presidio is an open question, but I do believe that whole area was searched with dogs that night, so it's not a trivial point when we're trying to geo-locate the killer. Second, if I remember correctly, there are some nagging issues with Kathleen John's story that get lost in the mythology. I am not well read on that story but I'm aware of some of the controversy, so I'm relying on Richard Grinnell's website. I don't think there were any witnesses of her abandoned car prior to it being set on fire, and she appears to have given some conflicting reports about the timeline of that day if you include Graysmith's book (obviously could be a classic Graysmith problem of course). I think she also said that the people who rescued her from a vineyard next to a highway offramp just dropped her off at the police station so she went in by herself. I'm not sure these people were identified and I don't think she could remember their names, only that they were from Missouri, so unless I'm mistaken there aren't any statements from them, although I'm happy to be proven wrong on that point. Finally, whereas we have two separate witnesses who heard Zodiac's voice and described it in fairly specific detail (Hartnell and Nancy Slover) here you have someone who spends 2 hours in a car with the guy who is clearly having a conversation with her since he "evades and changes the subject" and yet I don't think she ever managed to describe his voice much less anything specific he talked about. Add to that the letter from Zodiac describing this event (like with Cheri Jo Bates) was completely without detail that couldn't have easily been sourced from the paper. It's still ambiguous and could go either way, but when you compare the amount of effort and _planning_ that he put into proving he was the perpetrator of Lake Herman Rd., Blue Rock Springs, Presidio Heights and (at the scene) Lake Berryessa, it is very much an outlier and deserves some serious skepticism. Exactly the same for Donna Lass, and exactly the same for Cheri Jo Bates. This is why the letters are as much a curse as they are important pieces of evidence; they are full of bullshit as well as the truth. circumstantial

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the compliments, and thank you even more for the criticism. You make a great point about how I presented the Stine case in relation to location and the implications thereof. Adding the route would not have been a major inclusion at first sight, but I do think it would have added value for the viewer. The Johns case was also one of the harder cases since details surrounding it are both scarce and somewhat contradictory. Most of the information in that particular case came from a newspaper article.

@violinmerchant

Жыл бұрын

@@banditoyt I've got a lot of respect for the person who eschews the mythmaking impulse of True Crime. There were multiple times I was watching this video waiting for you to bring up things like the phone call to the dispatcher Nancy Slover, and the way the dude said, "goodbye", which are completely useless from an evidentiary standpoint, and frankly pretty cringe, in order to make the case seem creepier than it is, and you never did that so I knew I was watching something serious. I am subscribed and eagerly looking forward to more content that takes that approach.

@banditoyt

Жыл бұрын

The goal of the video was always to pack as much useful information into an as compact video as possible, so minor details such as the exact tone Zodiac used in his phone calls was somewhat irrelevant to me. This is also the reason I chose to cut the call to the TV Show. It makes for quite the dramatic scene, but ultimately, it does not add much more than that. Hopefully I can only improve from here on out and produce even better content in the coming months. And if all goes well, I might even be able to do this as a full time job eventually, which is the dream.