The Man in Monty's Shadow - Claude Auchinleck - WW2 Biography Special

Claude Auchinleck put military matters over that of politics. Although this angered some, mainly Churchill, Auchinleck still found himself in India, and later facing down Rommel in North Africa.
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  • @WorldWarTwo
    @WorldWarTwo3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to Lennart Visser for researching this episode. He's a Dutch-based historian who's written a paper on how Siemens dealt with the insecurity caused by World War I and the Russian Civil War - bit of a different topic to Auchinleck, but good reading to anyone interested in the interwar period: www.globalhistories.com/index.php/GHSJ/article/view/245 . In so many ways, it is our community who keep TimeGhost going. If you want to be part of this then join the TimeGhost Army on www.patreon.com/timeghosthistory or timeghost.tv . Please let us know what other Bios you'd like to see. And if you have a question about the war you're dying to have answered, submit it for our Q&A series, Out of the Foxholes at: community.timeghost.tv/c/Out-of-the-Foxholes-Qs . Before you comment, read our rules of conduct: community.timeghost.tv/t/rules-of-conduct/4518

  • @TheAdamGore

    @TheAdamGore

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love this channel .

  • @alex4w112

    @alex4w112

    3 жыл бұрын

    First few

  • @omarharoon1436

    @omarharoon1436

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheAdamGore So do I

  • @merdiolu

    @merdiolu

    3 жыл бұрын

    I did but I do not agree with your summary at all. You were too kind to Auchinleck

  • @t5ruxlee210

    @t5ruxlee210

    3 жыл бұрын

    Once Monty got the appointment, he knew he was more or less fire proof and had Churchill over a barrel for at least the immediate future. He promptly refused to budge until he received all the equipment and more that "the Auk" had been denied. Even with the huge demands he made being fulfilled, the Battle of el Alamein victory he delivered was a very close call indeed.

  • @loetzcollector466
    @loetzcollector4663 жыл бұрын

    My history professor once told me: "As Doctors of history, we have to constantly remind ourselves that nothing which happened in the past was unavoidable or preordained...except German counterattack."

  • @hannahskipper2764

    @hannahskipper2764

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great quote!! 😂😂

  • @Purvis-dw4qf
    @Purvis-dw4qf3 жыл бұрын

    Auchinleck's victory at the First Battle of El Alamein was the most important battle of the campaign and is very much overlooked.

  • @nickdanger3802
    @nickdanger38023 жыл бұрын

    "He (Montgomery) was threatened with legal action by Field Marshal Auchinleck for suggesting that Auchinleck had intended to retreat from the Alamein position if attacked again, and had to give a radio broadcast (20 November 1958) expressing his gratitude to Auchinleck for having stabilised the front at the First Battle of Alamein." Baxter, Field Marshal Bernard Law Montgomery, 1887-1976: A Selected Bibliography.

  • @dovetonsturdee7033

    @dovetonsturdee7033

    3 жыл бұрын

    His autobiography also had to be amended, as well.

  • @connorllewellyn6289
    @connorllewellyn62893 жыл бұрын

    Another capable general under Montgomery's shadow field Marshal William joseph slim had this to say of the Auc's command of India. It was a good day for us when he [Auchinleck] took command of India, our main base, recruiting area and training ground. The Fourteenth Army, from its birth to its final victory, owed much to his unselfish support and never-failing understanding. Without him and what he and the Army of India did for us we could not have existed, let alone conquered

  • @SuperLusername

    @SuperLusername

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes, the Slim's 14th "Forgotten army"

  • @merdiolu

    @merdiolu

    3 жыл бұрын

    Slim was true gentelman's soldier , very talented and even better he learned from his previous mistakes to come back much better

  • @merdiolu

    @merdiolu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Perkelenaattori I heard about that but these were never proven and remained as allegations I believe

  • @theblackprince1346

    @theblackprince1346

    3 жыл бұрын

    Slim in my personal opinion was Britain's best general in WW2.

  • @jonroberts8396

    @jonroberts8396

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@theblackprince1346 agreed, arguably the greatest British general of all time.

  • @CivilWarWeekByWeek
    @CivilWarWeekByWeek3 жыл бұрын

    I believe that this man had a picture of Monty and threw darts at it for catharsis

  • @Tadicuslegion78

    @Tadicuslegion78

    3 жыл бұрын

    New Staffer for the Auk: Why does the General have so many photos of Monty? I thought he hated his guts? Old Staffer: Oh he does..but since he can't shoot the real Monty this is the next best thing.

  • @Anglomachian

    @Anglomachian

    3 жыл бұрын

    Patton: of, cool. Not just me then.

  • @KeithHearnPlus

    @KeithHearnPlus

    3 жыл бұрын

    I suspect Monty was pleasantly surprised at how many people wanted his pictures. Clueless git.

  • @nicholasconder4703

    @nicholasconder4703

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Xen You are right about Montgomery on all counts here. His biggest issue was his overweening ego, which after the war led him to treat subordinates like de Guingand and Horrocks like crap, not to mention Eisenhower, among others. That said, he was an excellent general. People often forget it was he, not Eisenhower, not Bradley, who was in charge of the Battle of Normandy from D-Day until September 1, at which time the Allies were knocking on the German border. He also pushed Rommel back to Tunisia, often on a shoestring, improvising ways to keep his troops supplied. Granted, he didn't have Churchill and the Imperial General Staff grabbing troops for Greece or the Far East when he reached El Agheila, but logistics prevented him from deploying large numbers of troops until he captured Tripoli, which he did by suckering Rommel with a beautiful piece of subterfuge (Battle of Homs) that most people are completely unaware of. As for Market Garden, it was indeed a risky plan, but I think just about everyone figured that the Wehrmacht was still off balance and didn't have the resources to stabilize the front. And, if TIK is correct in his assumption, the actual goal of Market Garden was NOT the Ruhr, but the Zuider Zee at the Issel River (i.e. Montgomery's ego caused him to rewrite history). Such an offensive would have pretty much trapped the German 15th Army in Holland, and may have not only opened the Scheldt (and Antwerp) to shipping as early as October 1944, but also liberated Rotterdam and given the Allies the two largest ports in western Europe to supply their armies. TIK does make some compelling arguments for this, and it is an argument that makes strategic sense based on the forces available to Montgomery at the time. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mGttrcmKhq-ZfbA.html

  • @211212112

    @211212112

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nicholasconder4703 I disagree. Monty was obviously a good general, but he got a lot of things from politics. Eisenhower gave the command of D-Day to Monty to appease Monty and the British. Eisenhower was not a battlefield general. He was a politician general selected cause he was good at charming people, making compromises, and committed to making the alliance work. He once sent an officer home for calling a British officer a British SOB. It wasn’t the SOB part that got the officer in trouble. While in Europe Monty’s forces were given priority when oil ran low. Patton’s 3rd army was outpacing all others significantly till their oil was literal cut off to send extra to Monty and also to slow down Patton. Market garden was called stupid by many generals at the time. It was unnecessary, risky, and complexity to an already strained supply situation. In Africa it was Auch who saw them threw the worst of it. He is the one that inherited an army/general ( Cunningham) who was ready to run. He stabilized the front. He kept pressure on the axis forces decreasing then threw attrition due to their worse supply situation. He is the one that turned the tide. Monty came in to cleanup and take credit.

  • @j.m.f5451
    @j.m.f54513 жыл бұрын

    When I hear Claude Auchinleck my mind immediately jumps to Hearts of Iron 4 where he is, literally, the best general in all of the UK's staff you can pick from.

  • @gabrielsistonamoca6963

    @gabrielsistonamoca6963

    3 жыл бұрын

    mine is Miles Dimpsey

  • @mikereger1186
    @mikereger11863 жыл бұрын

    Monty might have won the second battle of Alamein, but the first battle was Auchinleck’s achievement. Notice that not only was The Auk ex Indian Army, but so was “Uncle Bill” Slim, who also never gets the credit he deserves.

  • @johnburns4017

    @johnburns4017

    3 жыл бұрын

    Monty's first defeat of Rommel was at Alem al Halfa, where he outfoxed Rommel with a slightly inferior force, with Rommel having enough fuel to get to the Suez Canal.

  • @stc3145

    @stc3145

    3 жыл бұрын

    Many regard Bill Slim as one of the best British generals in WW2. I hope we get a bio video on him later

  • @Tadicuslegion78

    @Tadicuslegion78

    3 жыл бұрын

    British Pompous Snobs sipping tea: Only losers and poor people become generals in the Indian Army. Real Gentlemen Generals earn it the right way by being friends with the Monarchy.

  • @Activated_Complex

    @Activated_Complex

    3 жыл бұрын

    And the second battle of Alamein was fought with a plan that was largely Auchinleck’s. Though it was put into practice well by Monty. That’s one of two nice things I’ll say about Montgomery. The other being that he resisted Churchill’s demands for an immediate, hasty, unwise attack once he had replaced The Auk. Which took some courage, given that his predecessor was fired largely for doing just that. Will reserve my criticism for when we get into the Falaise Pocket and Market-Garden.

  • @ChristopherNFP

    @ChristopherNFP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Uncle Bill... who was made Governor General of Australia after the War. 🙁 Because ....cultural inferiority.

  • @diegos1325
    @diegos13253 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes, the leader of Her Majesty's Most Loyal Resistance

  • @brickmatt6776

    @brickmatt6776

    3 жыл бұрын

    Was looking for this 😂

  • @emporerpalpastein2240

    @emporerpalpastein2240

    3 жыл бұрын

    YEA TNO GANG IS HERE!

  • @jordengg3629

    @jordengg3629

    3 жыл бұрын

    That was literally the first thing i thought of when i saw that name

  • @matthiasbindl7085

    @matthiasbindl7085

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jordengg3629 me too

  • @tomassanz2003

    @tomassanz2003

    3 жыл бұрын

    What’s all this about I’m intrigued

  • @adamban9452
    @adamban94523 жыл бұрын

    "The British couldn't have come through both wars (World War I and II) if they hadn't had the Indian Army."- Field Marshal Sir Claude Auchinleck #RIP The Auck..

  • @oreroundpvp896
    @oreroundpvp8963 жыл бұрын

    Auckinleck was an absolute chad, and it's a shame that he did not get as much glory as Monty did. However it seems as though Auchinleck himself didn't mind so much in the end.

  • @kyriakospentheides

    @kyriakospentheides

    2 жыл бұрын

    Like William Slim, he wasn't very ''ego'' at all.

  • @johnburns4017
    @johnburns40173 жыл бұрын

    The Auk, was interviewed by Johnathan Dimbley at his home in Morocco, where he retired. He said _"history got it right"._

  • @ScienceChap
    @ScienceChap3 жыл бұрын

    I have a 5 rupee note signed by Auchinleck and his senior staff.

  • @chancephillips7975

    @chancephillips7975

    3 жыл бұрын

    that's so cool!!!

  • @HistoryTeacherSteve

    @HistoryTeacherSteve

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can you add a pic of it to imgur and share here? That's awesome

  • @benjamindover2601
    @benjamindover26013 жыл бұрын

    Gifted working class man overshadowed by mediocre upper class superior, that’s the story of my country.

  • @veseyvonveitinghof7088

    @veseyvonveitinghof7088

    3 жыл бұрын

    Auchinleck was indeed gifted as a military man, as was Churchill as a political man. Class distinctions had nothing to do with the problems that arose. Sad that you have such a low opinion of your country. A detailed study of the events involved give far better understanding of the issues. Class distinctions were not at issue, just your simplistic views.......and indeed, you left a useless comment.....

  • @BeingFireRetardant

    @BeingFireRetardant

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@veseyvonveitinghof7088 He was talking about Monty you dumbass... It is you who left the useless comment. Also, class distinctions were in fact an issue, but you would not know that, being from an entirely different country and culture, yet you had the audacity to scold someone about that which you know not. The very definition of pedantic sophomoric egalitarianism. In other words a douchebag...

  • @unnefer001

    @unnefer001

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@veseyvonveitinghof7088 So arrogantly wrong. It's astounding really.

  • @veseyvonveitinghof7088

    @veseyvonveitinghof7088

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BeingFireRetardant ....First of all, Auk was replaced by Churchill, Montgomery was the choice to replace him. Secondly, Montgomery was not from the upper class, thirdly he was'nt superior in rank to Auchinleck.Auk was replaced for percieved military reasons and had nothing to do with class. Considering your ill informed comment , it's clear to me who the real douchbag and dumbass is.........please show documented evidence that Auk was replaced because of class..........

  • @veseyvonveitinghof7088

    @veseyvonveitinghof7088

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@unnefer001 ....I agree, "useless comment" is arrogantly wrong.............

  • @etsija12341234
    @etsija123412343 жыл бұрын

    In would like to see a WW2 biography special about Finnish military leader Marshal Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim.

  • @nicholasconder4703

    @nicholasconder4703

    3 жыл бұрын

    YES!

  • @artoriastheabysswalker

    @artoriastheabysswalker

    3 жыл бұрын

    And while they are on it also include his 'Auc', Karl Lennart Oesch

  • @ameerosamakhan8599
    @ameerosamakhan85993 жыл бұрын

    Finally "The Auk". Without a doubt the most underrated General.

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones43213 жыл бұрын

    Another man overshadowed by Monty is Brian Horrocks, he deserves a bio episode. I highly recommend it!

  • @lomax343

    @lomax343

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also Dempsey.

  • @alanbrener2718

    @alanbrener2718

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have big doubt about Horrocks. His handling of XXX was often poor (see Rhineland campaign and the battles for Cleve and the areas around it). Much better was Auk’s chief of staff, Eric Dorman Smith, at the first battle of El Alamein. I also agree that Slim was outstanding and I still use his post war speeches and other writings.

  • @indianajones4321

    @indianajones4321

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Alan Brener yes there were blunders (most notably Market Garden) but he was on of Monty’s best in North Africa and his tanks advanced with great haste through France and Belgium (up until Market Garden). It is also worth noting his WW1 service as well

  • @MrOllievirus

    @MrOllievirus

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@alanbrener2718 Was the it during the Rhineland campaign that he was recovering from having been shot by a German 109?

  • @nicholasconder4703

    @nicholasconder4703

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@indianajones4321 Yes, I particularly liked the story about the British sergeant who, during the race across France from the Seine to the Belgium border, had commandeered a steamroller, of all things, to keep the offensive "rolling". Beats walking, I guess.

  • @saltmerchant749
    @saltmerchant7493 жыл бұрын

    Auchinleck's swap with Wavell wasn't just Churchill favouring "The Auk", it was a means of punishing and removing Wavell who had fallen out of favour with Churchill due to the emerging crisis in the Western Desert theatre as a result of Churchill's own disastrous decision to divert troops from the Western Desert Force to Greece.

  • @Perkelenaattori

    @Perkelenaattori

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly true. Wavell had to juggle around 5 theaters at once with extremely limited resources. It was only after Barbarossa started that Winston realized that they need to make Africa into such a front that it's a drain on German resources.

  • @saltmerchant749

    @saltmerchant749

    3 жыл бұрын

    @The Colonel I must respectfully disagree that it was "hardly disastrous". It was disastrous in that it leads to significant losses of the commonwealth and British troops both killed and captured, deals a huge morale blow to our own forces in the Mediterranean, and allowed an Axis resurgence in Libya with the arrival of Rommel and the Afrika Korps. Before this, General O'Connor and the Western Desert Force had shattered the Italian forces under Graziani from Egypt to Libya in Operation Compass and if allowed to finish their work, the Afrika Korps would not have been in a position to disembark and subsequently push all the way back to Egypt. Churchill's folly in Greece cost time, equipment, and tens of thousands of fighting men.

  • @nicholasconder4703

    @nicholasconder4703

    3 жыл бұрын

    @The Colonel But, the Germans were planning to do it anyway. Hitler remembered that it was the Balkans Front that caused the collapse of the Central Powers in WWI. He didn't want a repeat. If anything really had far-reaching consequences for Germany, it was Crete, the graveyard of the German airborne troops.

  • @nicholasconder4703

    @nicholasconder4703

    3 жыл бұрын

    If anyone is an underrated British general, it is probably Wavell. I don't think any commander ever had to juggle so many conflicting fronts and priorities with so few troops and STILL pull if off. With the exception of the Western Desert after Rommel showed up. I mean, let's face it, how many armies with 30,000 men have defeated and taken prisoner around 7x their own number of enemy soldiers?

  • @saltmerchant749

    @saltmerchant749

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nicholasconder4703 Unsurprisingly, Auk spoke very highly of Wavell's performance and foundations put in place upon assuming the role of C-in-C ME. They also corresponded extensively advising each other on their respective new area of operation.

  • @gianniverschueren870
    @gianniverschueren8703 жыл бұрын

    I've had a genuinely, truly horrific day capping off a few dreadful weeks, and this tie is just what I needed. Astrid, Indy, Spartacus and the rest: Thank you all. 5/5

  • @Southsideindy

    @Southsideindy

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's the hints of blue that win, right? Thats what I love the most.

  • @eldorados_lost_searcher

    @eldorados_lost_searcher

    3 жыл бұрын

    Made me think of "What a Wonderful World" by Louis Armstrong. Hope your days improve, Gianni!

  • @Hollywood2021

    @Hollywood2021

    3 жыл бұрын

    lol I knew you were gonna like that tie

  • @mooseman5156

    @mooseman5156

    3 жыл бұрын

    You should have a song like bill nye, “Gianni the Tie Guy”

  • @gianniverschueren870

    @gianniverschueren870

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Taso Aifantis That's my permanent state tbf

  • @tuomasvainionpaa8361
    @tuomasvainionpaa83613 жыл бұрын

    My brain somehow read the title as ”The Man in MONTY PYTHON’S Shadow” and I was like wtf, this seems interesting. Something completely different, I might even say.

  • @eldorados_lost_searcher

    @eldorados_lost_searcher

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly wasn't expecting that.

  • @JustSomeCanuck

    @JustSomeCanuck

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@eldorados_lost_searcher Is there anything else you weren't expecting - something Spanish, perhaps? :D

  • @spudpud-T67

    @spudpud-T67

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JustSomeCanuck No one expects that.

  • @KeithHearnPlus

    @KeithHearnPlus

    3 жыл бұрын

    How to recognise different British generals from quite a long way away. No. 1 The Auk

  • @angels2online
    @angels2online3 жыл бұрын

    Super interesting guy. But it makes me wish you also did one For Richard O'Connor now.

  • @Ismet44

    @Ismet44

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, O'Connor suffered a few indignations due to Montgomery during the war and postwar. When he was commanding VIII corps in Normandy under Monty, he wasn't truly in his element as Monty insisted that his subordinates follow his plans/way and O'Connor was more of an independent commander.

  • @maolankar
    @maolankar3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Indy and crew!! Love your work! ... however I must strongly protest Indy’s interpretation of Claude Auchinleck’s post North Africa career, I can confidently say that his work laid the foundations for any success that the post independence Indian army has enjoyed! As such he is still widely respected within certain circles of the Indian Army in 2020! I do understand that in the context of ww2 he might not have played as decisive a role as a certain Mr Slim in Burma, but I still maintain that credit is due to the man himself

  • @WorldWarTwo

    @WorldWarTwo

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Angad, thanks for the kind words! Yes, Indy was just assessing his later career in the context of WW2 (that's what our channel is all about to be fair). You're right that he goes on to be an important historical figure. Maybe if TimeGhost ever do a post-war series, he may crop up again!

  • @johnzeszutko5661
    @johnzeszutko56613 жыл бұрын

    Credit to Monty - he knew that it was going to be tough to defeat Rommel in a mobile battle. He gathered strength knowing that he could "bull-doze" the Germans and Italians.

  • @nicholasconder4703

    @nicholasconder4703

    3 жыл бұрын

    As you say, Montgomery realized early in the planning for "Lightfoot" that his armoured divisions were not going to be able to defeat their German counterparts. This is why he fought El Alamein the way he did, to separate the Axis infantry from their armour and damage them to such an extent the Germans would have to respond, and get hit by British anti-tank guns. He said as much before the battle began; he said it would take 10-14 days to win, and it took 14 days of hard, attritional fighting to pull off.

  • @johnzeszutko5661

    @johnzeszutko5661

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nicholasconder4703 Yes he played to his strengths.

  • @Bullet-Tooth-Tony-

    @Bullet-Tooth-Tony-

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nicholasconder4703 Yeah, Monty's strategies were never about maneouver warfare. They were about creating a fissure in enemy lines and exploiting that fissure with a powerful breakthrough. He did use feints though.

  • @nicholasconder4703

    @nicholasconder4703

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- Not that he had much choice. His armoured divisions didn't seem to get the knack of handling maneouver warfare. They acted rather like the cavaliers did in the English Civil War, or the British cavalry during the Napoleonic Wars, always dashing around with great verve and elan, but not coordinating with everyone else properly to win the battle. Monty's few attempts to try maneouver warfare tended to come up short, mostly because of errors made by subordinates trained in the faulty British armour doctrine of the 1920s and 1930s.

  • @Bullet-Tooth-Tony-

    @Bullet-Tooth-Tony-

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nicholasconder4703 Geoffry Scoones, Miles Dempsey and Richard O Connor were solid commanders at combined operations though

  • @emporerpalpastein2240
    @emporerpalpastein22403 жыл бұрын

    TNO gang unite! FOR HIS MAJESTY MOST LOYAL RESTISTANCE!

  • @TotalTryFails

    @TotalTryFails

    3 жыл бұрын

    Down with the collaborators! Sterling's boys are with us!

  • @yourstruly4817

    @yourstruly4817

    3 жыл бұрын

    TNO = ?

  • @ShladTheTonkLover

    @ShladTheTonkLover

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yours Truly “The New Order” is a mod for the game Hearts of Iron 4.

  • @yourstruly4817

    @yourstruly4817

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ShladTheTonkLover Thanks!

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    @unitedstatesofamerica4987

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yourstruly4817 Great mod. Hope You like reading

  • @peteroneill5426
    @peteroneill54263 жыл бұрын

    Everytime I see the Norwegian Campaign, I just make happy Adrian Carton De Wiart noises! My favourite military autobiography is still Happy Odyssey by the mighty Belgian!

  • @peglegpeete9122
    @peglegpeete91223 жыл бұрын

    PLEASE do a segment on Hank Porter. He was in charge of the Disney PR unit that made the combat unit insignias. Of the over 2000 Disney made during the war, Hand did about 1500 of them, while still doing most of the promotional art that went to newspapers, magazines and other places. He is an unheard of giant. If he had not died young, Disney would have 10, not 9 Old Men.

  • @alexkudzin4980
    @alexkudzin49803 жыл бұрын

    Can you please cover the polish forces in the North Africa campaign? My grandfather was part of 4th Armored Regiment "Scorpion" at Monte Cassino, I'm not sure about when he was in North Africa, so I would like to know more.

  • @sashauriarte8602
    @sashauriarte86023 жыл бұрын

    In HOI4 i always promote Auchinleck to Field Marshall so that he leads the BEF and the Eight Army

  • @AndyM_323YYY
    @AndyM_323YYY3 жыл бұрын

    From what I have read of Monty he too was not so good at politics. But he had the support and confidence of Alanbrooke who was Churchill's closest military adviser.

  • @rosiehawtrey

    @rosiehawtrey

    3 жыл бұрын

    Even Alanbrook ended up hating his guts. Montgomery didn't have a single good side to his character - to the point that many refused to work with him post war.

  • @nicholasconder4703

    @nicholasconder4703

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rosiehawtrey Which is probably why Montgomery gets so much negative press. People love to hate him, and since many of them wrote the histories of battles like Normandy, they deny him the kudos he deserves for his victories, and find any little fault to criticize him on. I think Montgomery was a great general, but his personality and the enemies he made have tended to obliterate his accomplishments.

  • @SuperLusername
    @SuperLusername3 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: Claude Auchinleck in early 1936 was a General, however by the end of the year he was promoted by Stanley Baldwin to the rank of Field Marshall so that he could command 5 armies, 120 divisions in total. Auchinleck also had a bit better stats than most of his peers. He was especially skilled in defense.

  • @phinix250

    @phinix250

    3 жыл бұрын

    you have been playing too much HoI 4

  • @SuperLusername

    @SuperLusername

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@phinix250 too much doesnt even begin to describe it

  • @stuartwhigham7146

    @stuartwhigham7146

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact, there's only one 'l' in Field Marshal!

  • @_ArsNova
    @_ArsNova3 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate this video especially, I've always been much more curious about the lesser known general officers of the war, such as Auchinleck. Ones that don't have the bombastic personas or reputations that precede like with Rommel, Montgomery, Patton, etc.

  • @gordybing1727
    @gordybing17273 жыл бұрын

    Hi All, During the period of this story, there was a man named William Langer, from North Dakota. There is a self published biography of him called The Dakota Maverick by Agnes Geelan. I have not read it, but if you are wondering what was happening when the shooting wasn't going on, this might help. India in 1942-1944 had as many people as lived in all of Europe, more or less. Command there can not be discounted. Thanks for your time, take care.

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un3 жыл бұрын

    Hope you talk about my grandpa, he played a role in WW2 as he was part of the Northeast Anti-Japanese United Army in Manchuria

  • @diarradunlap9337

    @diarradunlap9337

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Mark Gaiennie Didn't you know? They fought in all THREE Punic Wars, the Cimbric War, the Social War, and all of the civil wars of the late Roman Republic. 😄

  • @stevekaczynski3793

    @stevekaczynski3793

    3 жыл бұрын

    One photo I have seen of Kim Il-Sung and other Koreans taken around 1941 shows them wearing Red Army greatcoats and the pointed budyonovka cap. Most of the greatcoats are a little too large-sized. Kim Il-Sung spent most if not all of WW2 in the USSR.

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican3 жыл бұрын

    Ottomans: I fear no man, but that thing *T H E A U K* Ottomans: it scares me

  • @mammuchan8923

    @mammuchan8923

    3 жыл бұрын

    Love it, that evoked a proper belly 😂

  • @ashketchum351
    @ashketchum3513 жыл бұрын

    By Jove! I say, splendid video squire! Jolly good show! Carry on, carry on!

  • @Perkelenaattori

    @Perkelenaattori

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd say that The Auk gave the gerries a good old rodgering.

  • @theeaselrider4032
    @theeaselrider40323 жыл бұрын

    I think these little Bio episodes have become my favourites. Excellent job - thanks.

  • @libertylionofjudah
    @libertylionofjudah3 жыл бұрын

    I'm learning more from you guys than what I learn from my two different High schools. Thank you, (God bless you) and the keep up Historic work of greatness.

  • @WorldWarTwo

    @WorldWarTwo

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @lambertw13_27
    @lambertw13_273 жыл бұрын

    At least he formed HMMLR lol

  • @jordengg3629

    @jordengg3629

    3 жыл бұрын

    TNO GANG!!!!!

  • @MrGoldenV
    @MrGoldenV3 жыл бұрын

    I've been really looking forward to the North Africa content.

  • @okneves9512
    @okneves95123 жыл бұрын

    Great video and especially great tie this time.

  • @WorldWarTwo

    @WorldWarTwo

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @rogerhinman5427
    @rogerhinman54273 жыл бұрын

    Field Marshall Auchinleck is an officer I would have happily served for. I had too many commanders who were politicians and not leaders.

  • @CrimsonDragon15
    @CrimsonDragon153 жыл бұрын

    Politics did almost as much damage to the British Army as German attacks did.

  • @keithorbell8946
    @keithorbell89463 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, first for pronouncing “Lieutenant” the British/British Empire way, and second for high lighting the fact the Monty stood on other men’s greatness. One factor in British General officers that I have picked up is that they were highly professional, and wanted to concentrate on the job in hand. The problem was, the political side was anathema to most of them. Only a few, like Monty, whose narcissism made him believe his own boasts, understood that they had to play up to their political masters. An anecdote I remember is about Churchill visiting 8th Army first under Auchinleck. His presence was seen as an annoyance, disturbing the smooth running of the campaign and he was seen at campaign HQ in the middle of the desert with no comforts provided. Under Monty, Churchill was taken to the coast, wined and dined, and generally shown a good time. Wavelength, The Auk, Slim (can’t wait for your special on Uncle Bill) even Alexander only had eyes on conduct of the War, I believe Monty only had eyes on his career.

  • @alexy590
    @alexy5903 жыл бұрын

    I hope you make many more short biographies, they are by far my favorite specials.

  • @paulbeesley8283
    @paulbeesley82832 ай бұрын

    In the early '60s, at the western end of Board Street, in Birmingham, a shopping centre was built. It was named Auchinleck Square, and it contained a statue of the General. It was pulled down about 10 years ago (it was, despite warnings, built over a rat-infested area,) A new development was built and the stature survived, and can still be seen on the south side of Broad Street, just before the entrance to Five Ways Concourse.

  • @Kevin-mx1vi
    @Kevin-mx1vi3 жыл бұрын

    Auchinleck was a first class general, Montgomery a first class self-publicist. We know how that turned out.

  • @lovablesnowman

    @lovablesnowman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Monty was still better

  • @nicholasconder4703

    @nicholasconder4703

    3 жыл бұрын

    Auchinleck tended to be a poor at selecting Corps and divisional commanders. Montgomery was much better at this. And if you think Auchinleck was a first class general, watch the first class mess that is Crusader.

  • @Brahmdagh

    @Brahmdagh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nicholasconder4703 blame chuchill

  • @nicholasconder4703

    @nicholasconder4703

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Brahmdagh I think you should watch TIK's 9 hour video on Crusader. You might change your mind.You should also read up on his mishandling of El Gazala and the mess that was First El Alamein. None of these battles suggest he was really in control, rather he appeared to flail out at whatever looked good at the time. Churchill was to blame for putting political pressure on him to start Crusader before he should have, but the plan was doomed to failure anyway. It was rather like the Japanese plan for Midway, our enemy will react exactly as we predict. Only they didn't.

  • @vitabricksnailslime8273
    @vitabricksnailslime82733 жыл бұрын

    Churchill to Wavell, "Attack the enemy with everything you've got and destroy him". Wavell to Churchill, "Actually, what we've got is insufficient for the purpose" (proceeds to get the best possible use out of what he actually has). Churchill to Wavell, "You have proven to be a total loser and have failed to use your overwhelming superiority. You will be replaced by Auchinleck who will show you how it should be done". Churchill to Auchinleck, "Now destroy the enemy"! Auchinleck to Churchill, "Actually, what we have is insufficient for the purpose" (proceeds to get the best possible use out of what he actually has). Churchill to Auchinleck, "You have proven to be a total loser and have failed to use your overwhelming superiority. You will be replaced by Montgomery (who will also get all of the men and materiel both you and Wavell have requested). He will show you just how this thing should be done". Montgomery to the world, "See how great I am"! Churchill to the world, "See what a great strategist and judge of men I am. The world will soon see (at my third attempt) just how soft the underbelly of Europe really is, vindicating me for all time".

  • @SirDamned
    @SirDamned3 жыл бұрын

    The suit dazzles and amazes and also from the right angle, excites.

  • @erikgranqvist3680
    @erikgranqvist36803 жыл бұрын

    TIK has the best deep dive into Crusader I have ever seen. For those who want to look it up here on the KZread, be warned: the documentary is over 9 hours long. Its comprehensive, covering the battle in astounding dept and is in no way a concurent toThe Great War Channel.

  • @oreroundpvp896

    @oreroundpvp896

    3 жыл бұрын

    TIK is great, if you're a military history buff you'll love his channel.

  • @Southsideindy

    @Southsideindy

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Great War Channel? Whats that?

  • @erikgranqvist3680

    @erikgranqvist3680

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Southsideindy its a new parfume. Kind of old school. Engkish is by no means my first language, so I am bound to get it wrong from time to time.

  • @pz3j
    @pz3j3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting episode. Lots of food for thought. Thanks. P.S. You're great Indy!!!

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion783 жыл бұрын

    By the way, when you get further along for this biography section, would you consider doing some on Japanese figures like Hajime Sugiyama or Shunroku Hata? Seems like with Japan and WW2 it's a black hole of knowledge in regards to Japan and the rest of Asia in ww2

  • @patmctallica3522
    @patmctallica35223 жыл бұрын

    Indy on it`s best! That one (episode) could be my favorite up today! WOW! Ty Indy! (and your team)!

  • @hannahskipper2764
    @hannahskipper27643 жыл бұрын

    Auchinleck: what's that boss music? Oh, wait, Monty is following me from post to post.

  • @merdiolu

    @merdiolu

    3 жыл бұрын

    where was Auchinleck when Montgomery served from Second Battle of Alamein 1942 to Northern Germany 1945 where he accepted sureender of German Army , oh yes sent to India Command to staff command

  • @hannahskipper2764

    @hannahskipper2764

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@merdiolu oh well 😂😂

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones43213 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @ltmentle5293
    @ltmentle52933 жыл бұрын

    Let's see if there'll be any TNO references in the comments.

  • @lukejohns5900

    @lukejohns5900

    3 жыл бұрын

    Finally I found one!

  • @primkup

    @primkup

    3 жыл бұрын

    Praise our blessed boss Chad Auchinleck, for he shall reclaim our home and punish the traitors by right. Down with the traitor king! Avenge the fallen!

  • @basinz123

    @basinz123

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Chad Auck is here to save HMMLR

  • @merdwardo2085
    @merdwardo20853 жыл бұрын

    You should do one on miles Dempsey who was quite successful and very liked by Montgomery and othe generals

  • @mrmaje1
    @mrmaje13 жыл бұрын

    Brown Indy....one can never overdo brown. You are autumn in living form.

  • @kuoseis
    @kuoseis3 жыл бұрын

    Thats a very nice tie you got there Indy

  • @mariandumitru8891
    @mariandumitru88913 жыл бұрын

    Please Indy do a Biografy special about Conducator Ion Antonescu , about his military work ... we learn here in Romania only about the bad things he did!

  • @lukejohns5900
    @lukejohns59003 жыл бұрын

    He also brought back English democracy back in 1963... so pretty cool

  • @aeigdiusflaviusquintus1337

    @aeigdiusflaviusquintus1337

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ahh yes, the Chad Auk! Led the HMMLR to victory over the English Govt!

  • @CaptainHarlock-kv4zt
    @CaptainHarlock-kv4zt3 жыл бұрын

    I love biography's episodes the most.

  • @kevinpascual
    @kevinpascual3 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to learn more about that tie, Indy.

  • @DiggingForFacts
    @DiggingForFacts3 жыл бұрын

    It's the tragedy of the modern age over and over again. Auchinleck was a man who worked had, saw reason, managed to be well liked by people around him AND fully understood the capabilities and limitations of what he was given. The only significant reason politicians had to doubt or discredit him was to have a scapegoat when their high-flying plans based in prejudice and assumption went wrong. The Auck probably wouldn't have been any less effective than Montgomery, but he had the uncommon nerve to say "I'll not needlessly risk my men if I don't believe them to be fit for the task."

  • @merdiolu

    @merdiolu

    3 жыл бұрын

    He risked Tobruk garrison unnecessarily in June 1942 when he was well aware that its defences were neglected and in disrepair. As a result 35.000 Allied troops were lost (33.000 POWs) and vast quantity of material and supplies were captured by Axis and Auchinleck's blunder made promoted Rommel to Field Marshal...Thank you Auchinleck for "working hard, seeing reason , managing to be well liked by people around you AND fully understanding the capabilities and limitations of what you were given. Also thank you also fr losing Benghazi before and losing Mersa Matruh after that in the latter alone losing anıother 6.500 Allied troops to Axis POW Camps.

  • @omarharoon1436
    @omarharoon14363 жыл бұрын

    Last time I was this early Poland still existed BTW Amazing work guys

  • @michimatsch5862

    @michimatsch5862

    3 жыл бұрын

    Omar Haroon Poland is not yet lost. Powstaje Warszawa!

  • @mammuchan8923

    @mammuchan8923

    3 жыл бұрын

    1794?

  • @omarharoon1436

    @omarharoon1436

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michimatsch5862 WARSAW RISE *uprising intensifies*

  • @photoisca7386

    @photoisca7386

    3 жыл бұрын

    Spoiler alert! Poland does exist and is doing quite nicely. They are also leading the resistance to the 4th Reich.

  • @maxmullen6337
    @maxmullen63373 жыл бұрын

    Nonsense. It’s now known that the Americans were inadvertently giving away the position of every British soldier, every tank and every gun. That’s how Rommel gained the reputation as the “Desert Fox”. He seemed to outwit the British at every turn. The British were telling the Americans everything about the North African war. And the Americans were transmitted that information to Washington. Unfortunately the Germans had cracked the American code. And the information was of unprecedented detail. Normal code breakers, like Ultra for instance, provided only general information, movement of troops perhaps but not exactly their plans and intentions. Rommel was given everything. As General Horrocks remarked. We didn’t win a battle while the Germans were reading American radio transmissions and we didn’t lose a battle after we found out about it.

  • @thewhiteknightman

    @thewhiteknightman

    Жыл бұрын

    Source?

  • @solsdadio
    @solsdadio3 жыл бұрын

    A professional soldier who got there through ability.

  • @Britton_Thompson
    @Britton_Thompson3 жыл бұрын

    "What really lets Auchinleck down is his absolute commitment to placing military matters above politics." That's a misnomer. All use of military force is political. Combat itself is just one of the mechanisms states can use to resolve political disputes.

  • @benwilson6145

    @benwilson6145

    3 жыл бұрын

    What let Auchinleck down was the people he appointed as Commanders of the 8th Army. First Cunningham who was already worn out fro his command in East Africa, then replaced him with his Chief of Staff Ritchie who was too inexperienced and junior. This allowed a total chaos to break out as as each commander did there own thing to the total determent of the Army.

  • @dovetonsturdee7033

    @dovetonsturdee7033

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@benwilson6145 Probably true. Auchinleck was from the Indian army and didn't know enough about the (predominantly, British & Commonwealth) officers who served as his subordinates. Ritchie was only intended to be a temporary appointment, until Churchill announced him as the new commander of 8th Army. That had never been the Auk's intention.

  • @benwilson6145

    @benwilson6145

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dovetonsturdee7033 Auk put him there and did not protest. Cunningham was his appointment.

  • @nicholasconder4703

    @nicholasconder4703

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@benwilson6145 Agreed. The Auk was not a bad general, but he didn't pick good Army or Corps commanders.

  • @basichistory
    @basichistory3 жыл бұрын

    Montgomery wouldn't listen to advice in 1944 and ordered an attack into The Netherlands which cost the lives of thousands of British soldiers. The book A Bridge too Far is well worth reading.

  • @wilmerholmqvist8705
    @wilmerholmqvist87053 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why but I am the biggest Auchinleck fanboy

  • @pedrohpires1
    @pedrohpires13 жыл бұрын

    The man who saved Enlgand from foreign occupation and the traitors in London

  • @ericjohnson1289
    @ericjohnson12893 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting bio -special.

  • @bluthammer1442
    @bluthammer14423 жыл бұрын

    every episode makes me wiser.

  • @bruceboyer8187
    @bruceboyer8187 Жыл бұрын

    The Auk wins the initial battles of El Alamein and stops the AK. He sits up the 8th Army to achieve victory.

  • @MrJoshua1875
    @MrJoshua18753 жыл бұрын

    A legend of a man.

  • @peterdavy6110
    @peterdavy61103 жыл бұрын

    Field Marshal Alanbrooke said in his diaries that the Auk's worst failing was that he was an awful picker of men. Some of his N Africa appointments, in Alanbrooke's view, were dire. The Auk died as senior Field Marshal of the British Army.

  • @GeneralSmitty91
    @GeneralSmitty913 жыл бұрын

    Auch reminds me a bit of Patton minus the ego. Patton didn't care much for politics either and just wanted to fight.

  • @flyforce16
    @flyforce163 жыл бұрын

    Amazing sartorial look from Indy today!

  • @christophe5954
    @christophe59543 жыл бұрын

    Great to hear about this Soldier

  • @kyriakospentheides
    @kyriakospentheides2 жыл бұрын

    Auchinleck has to be one of the most, if not the most, underrated commanders in the British army. Not only was he a very interesting man with a fascinating life outside of politics, but his integrity and skills meant that he could focus on great defensive strategies at El Alamein. Likewise, his support of William Slim (another candidate for most underrated British commander; a man who arguably deserves to be at least part of a ensemble movie) and his 14th Army (the ''Forgotten Army'') led to the successful liberation of much of South East Asia and the defence of India itself.

  • @gsomers248
    @gsomers2483 жыл бұрын

    That is one helluva tie - and yet somehow Indie pulls it off.

  • @yochaiwyss3843
    @yochaiwyss38433 жыл бұрын

    TIK Battlestorm Series Represent!

  • @rhysgriffiths3544
    @rhysgriffiths35443 жыл бұрын

    I clicked this video immediately knowing that it was on one of my favourite Hoi4 generals

  • @vasakvasa2929
    @vasakvasa29293 жыл бұрын

    Would be cool if you did one for Johan Rabe

  • @sandybarnes887
    @sandybarnes8873 жыл бұрын

    Great. I was wondering when North Africa would make a coverage return

  • @oreroundpvp896

    @oreroundpvp896

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lots more battles to come in North Africa, but as said in this video, the British and German/Italian armies were preparing as the logistical situtation in the North African desert was a mess.

  • @wadejustanamerican1201
    @wadejustanamerican12013 жыл бұрын

    Okay, I do want to know when that tie goes up for auction.

  • @milankolarski8876
    @milankolarski88763 жыл бұрын

    So this is real Major Richard Sharpe, played by Sean Bean. :D

  • @stevenguyen5965
    @stevenguyen59653 жыл бұрын

    I've just read "Odd Man Out: The Story of the Singapore Traitor" and I wonder will Indy and Team do an episode on Captain Patrick Stanley Vaughan Heenan, the Singapore Traitor?

  • @paulbarthol8372
    @paulbarthol83723 жыл бұрын

    Love the WWI Suez film clips showing Sten and Bren Guns.

  • @michaelwhiles5282
    @michaelwhiles52822 жыл бұрын

    Used to be a large bronze stature at 5 Ways in Birmingham, England. It was removed several years ago when the site was redeveloped. I have no idea where he/ it is now.

  • @WorldWarTwo

    @WorldWarTwo

    2 жыл бұрын

    I found this bit about the statue: "The statue of Sir Claude Auchinleck (1884-1981) has returned to Birmingham, after having been sent off on covert operations whilst the Five Ways Shopping Centre was re-developed. The statue has moved a 100 yards or so north, so it is now on the pavement on Broad Street looking towards the car park that was once a piazza, named after him, but has ceased to exist and is now a car park for the new Park Regis hotel. The statue was commissioned and paid for by the Murrayfield Real Estate Company Ltd., the developers of Five Ways Shopping Centre. The Field Marshal, was a distinguished officer in the First and Second World Wars, having been Commander-in-Chief of the Indian Army on two occasions and had been the chairman of Murrayfield’s since 1958. The statue was unveiled by Auk himself, on 27th April 1965."

  • @Professor_sckinnctn
    @Professor_sckinnctn3 жыл бұрын

    What a tie!

  • @matthewwicht1541
    @matthewwicht15413 жыл бұрын

    Are you going to do a video on Jan Smuts?

  • @jcdenton7891
    @jcdenton78913 жыл бұрын

    When will you guys cover tank and plane aces?

  • @billymule961
    @billymule9613 жыл бұрын

    Britain had Auchinleck, the US had Patton. Perhaps they should have let these guys run things.

  • @kalle911
    @kalle9113 жыл бұрын

    Ever since I played Hearts of Iron 2 I wondered about all those commanders I assigned to my divisions. Luckily a lot of them have an article on wikipedia.

  • @vonhipperwild2009
    @vonhipperwild20093 жыл бұрын

    it is a damn shame that those who play politics and less about military matters are always remembered. that is why i have never liked Monty nor Churchill simply because, they like politics and do not let military commanders who know what there doing and saying do their jobs. i have never liked people who brown nose to get ahead, but in the end Monty got is reward and was never knight and was largely forgotten after the war.

  • @randyherbrechtsmeier4796
    @randyherbrechtsmeier47963 жыл бұрын

    Wow Flashy Tie!!!!

  • @JohnCampbell-rn8rz
    @JohnCampbell-rn8rz3 жыл бұрын

    There is a lot of criticism here of Churchill for interfering with his generals and picking personal favourites to command his armies. Fair enough, but remember, generals generally tend to be ambitious men with big egos, in all armies. Wars are their times to shine and seek promotion and fame and there are very few with the humility of an Auchinleck who refuse to seek the accolades of the politicians at the expense of the armies they command.

  • @gilanbarona9814
    @gilanbarona98143 жыл бұрын

    I read somewhere that the Auk was one of WW2's most under-appreciated generals. It's not fair to him, though. He won the first battle of El Alamein, and most people seem to think it was all Monty's credit. Eventually, he made Field Marshal, but only after the war in 1946. If it had been my time, I would have proudly served under the Auk.

  • @jon-paulfilkins7820
    @jon-paulfilkins78203 жыл бұрын

    The Great Auk, military service tarnished by Churchills interference, hampered by the large area he had to command. But look at who he picked to do stuff for him, Stirling, O'Conner, Wingate, Slim. My he could pick them!

  • @edward9674
    @edward96743 жыл бұрын

    Are you gonna do a video on Stillwell when the time comes?