So if your line snaps or the knot gives above this thing you leave the fish dragging a plastic grappling hook around that could end up killing the fish. The design looks like it could be deadly.

If the day ever comes when I need one of those twig thingies that's the day I stop fishing and take up golf. I firmly believe carp deserve a chance. If they get away with it then so be it. It adds to the challenge and, for me, that is what it's all about.

@Chris_Rog

10 ай бұрын

lol totally agree, totally unnecessary gimmick

@bradleyknell7449

10 ай бұрын

real

@frankeckler1478

9 ай бұрын

Das rig funktioniert aber es sammelt sich Sand im aulösemechanismus und dann klemmt es und löst nicht aus ! Wer also seine montage noch mal nach dem auswerfen straffen will kann Pech haben und es hat sich Sand im rig gesammelt dann hat sich das mit dem auslösen erledigt den die Feder klemmt also noch verbesserungswürdig!

@richardjones9442

4 ай бұрын

Well put sir! I've lost all respect for Ali, the man has turned into a whore for any product with a pound note attached to it. Its all crap we don't need.

@eezxp6843

Ай бұрын

a lot of stuff is a gimmick these days all you need is a lead clip, lead and a hook

So many unanswered and avoided questions. The integrity of OMC appears to be fading. There are too many experienced anglers for this blag to work 😂

Well done mate has to be a record for how many lakes have banned it before release 🤦‍♂️

@stephenmorris4409

11 ай бұрын

Now wounder korda got rid of him.

The lazy carp anglers’ self-hooking device - for those that can’t think outside the box in order to put a few more fish on the bank. Not catching is all part of it - it’s how you learn as an angler and progress. Hopefully, this contraption (and that’s exactly what it is) falls into obscurity. Historic (?) - MY ARSE!

@alexmarkbull7435

11 ай бұрын

Well said mate

@8117hen

11 ай бұрын

I cant see Ali ever backing down on this product. He chucked so much money into it. Probably 25k just on plastic tooling for example. He won't walk away from this device. It could damage his company....

@davidtaylor2978

11 ай бұрын

that will teach him to fish and not to trap fish.

@chrishall2535

11 ай бұрын

Well said.. all about water craft

Is it called the magic twig because you cant see it going off when the carp on the product packet was hooked?

Omc and Ali has really Impressed me with some of their products and prices. How this one got through without any of his team or researchers reading the EA/Government Thames Catchment area rules is beyond me. Clearly states no self hooking devices. Omc should really be letting potential customers know, you can’t fish in certain areas with this.

@captainjack1726

9 ай бұрын

It’s a hook setting device not self hooking

@captainjack1726

9 ай бұрын

Also down to how well you know your waters if u use it

@add-123

20 күн бұрын

Haha same thing ya nod makes no odds be deemed self hooking rig and is banned in Thames area and will be nation wide ​@@captainjack1726

How safe are they ? To me, it looks like something that will increase the risk of snagging and tethering a fish . I haven't seen anything on your uploads. Is there any info on the safety. Many clubs and day tickets i know are banning already

@mathewking7466

11 ай бұрын

My point exactly . Tangle on the cast on the arms 🤔🤔

@tomdurcan9649

11 ай бұрын

Loads of lakes have banned in them already

@joeking57

11 ай бұрын

Thats exactly what it is.... Plus added carp tax and added problems. Uv gota be an absolute numpty to buy these.. But the scary thing is they will.. 😂😂😂

@8117hen

11 ай бұрын

I wonder what about Embryo Lakes🤔 heard nothing from them at all?. The korda boys have been totally silent too, but I do understand they'd normally would on launches anyway.

Does it work with pva bags? For casting? Or isit more of a boat it out or single hook bait and spod up kinda approach. My biggest fish have always come from a midnight cast into oblivion. And a pva bag put on decent 12inch sausage size ones.

Angling Times….. says it all. Questions have also been raised by fishery managers over the product design itself too, with many banning its use because of potential fish safety concerns. And there we go, being banned already

@stephenmorris4409

11 ай бұрын

Well said get it band before fish deaths.

@michaelovery8388

11 ай бұрын

our club has ban from useing it.@@stephenmorris4409

@gf845

11 ай бұрын

Banned

We've moved from skillfully fishing with float, stalking, freelining, and ledgering to various bolt rigs where the fish basically hook themselves to end up now relying on a spring loaded trap that hooks the fish for you. To me... this is the pits. Our Eastern European friends might like them to help with their Sunday lunch though.

I like the concept. Might sell more in North America and Australia,where wild Carp are the target. Fishery owners that have invested money in stocking British and European waters are understandably nervous about the safety aspect.

A point of clarification please......if the device is triggered by the 'forward' weight of force stated on the different packs then I presume you need a greater or equal opposite force (ie the lead or a tight line) to make it trigger?.......so will a 1oz lead on a slack line still trigger the lightest 4.5oz version of device or would that be dependant on the amount of force a fish uses in shaking its head once it feels the hook, ie. would the fish need to exert 4.5 times the force of the 1oz lead to overcome the trigger?......which to my mind means, that the mechanics of the twig are still very much reliant on a sharp hook and decent end rig to make the initial contact, the twig only comes in to play when the hook link is at full stretch ........on a personal note the whole twig looks longer than a lot of rigs I use... EDIT: Some additional thoughts to the above.......Once a fish has pricked its self with sufficient force for the hook to take hold and has moved away for the length of the hook link and then exerted enough force to trigger the twig, how much force is exerted by the recoil of the spring in the twig to set the hook further in to the fish's mouth?......it strikes me that a spring of that size will not have sufficient 'recoil' force to counteract the weight of a moving fish, so driving the hook home is still reliant on the weight of the lead being dragged by the fish via the braided link inside the twig with the spring itself being at full stretch......holding the twig and releasing the hook bait so the spring recoils is all well and good but that isn't what happens in reality......Its more likely that the spring pulls the lead towards the hook rather than the hook towards the lead as the hook end has the weight of the fish in its favour and most Carp definitely weigh more than a lead....

Surely the arms create a snag? Unless they break off easily? Then lakes will soon be full of bits of plastic? I think a casing would finish the product off

How come the device hasn't triggered on the packaging picture? 🤣

The twig hasn’t engaged in that photo of the fish on the packaging. That’s what I don’t get. No hate here at all, just confused me.

@Scottymol

11 ай бұрын

That's what I thought, but surely it has?. On second viewing zooming in, it looks like it hasn't engaged, that's with the carp shaking its head twice but is clearly hooked with no aid from the twig?

@Eightball69

11 ай бұрын

They're total f-ing amateurs, embarrassing 💁

@TOMMII0108

11 ай бұрын

"Side on view" apparently

Tried the heavy twig recently on a private lake with no snags/weed. Wanted the medium setting but sold out everywhere. No bites on the rod with the twig on so cannot comment on the setting the hook side of it. But, retrieving the rig and then casting it out again without PVA tape tied to the twig still didn't activate it so I cannot see how it would ever activate when it should when a carp picked it up?

The carp from the packaging pic was hooked and the device didn’t trigger even when you yourselves pause the clip it’s not triggered, not a hater was intending to buy myself some when they came out but now I’m not convinced. I’ll still watch the other vids coming out and see for myself the proof before I say no

Do you have any underwater footage of it triggering before the fish is hooked? I've watched and rewatched all of the clips I can find, but each time the fish swims away before the twig triggers. Your help is appreciated in advance

@danielmorris3446

11 ай бұрын

They have to be hooked to trigger it, this thing just buries the hook so they can't shake it

@s1opp

11 ай бұрын

@@danielmorris3446 that's what I'm looking for. A fish that tries to shake the lead, and the twig triggers, then the fish rips off. There's a clip in this video of a fish doing that with a normal rig in this video. In the clips with the twig, the fish just move off before the twig reacts

@danielmorris3446

11 ай бұрын

@s1opp yep. Soon as a hook goes in deep enough they usually bolt.. there's also 2 parts of the clip, one where the twig triggers and the Carp takes a few seconds to bolt (exactly as they do with a normal rig) the other the Carp hooked and slowly drifts off

@gymmad86

11 ай бұрын

Exactly what I see....looks like another bad gimmick to me. And no response to the thousands of comment about the failed snapping of the arms in his live feed either. That live feed where he attempted to break the arms was what had people banning it before it came out

@gymmad86

11 ай бұрын

​@@danielmorris3446but thats not how he portrays it. All those clips does not show it activated as they swim off....so what the purpose?

Ali, I'm confused and this is genuine mate, I'm not baiting you but on that footage, the one you took the promo pic from the device hasn't triggered, it's a plain as day. It's still in it's loaded position. Can you please explain that?

@Vypren

11 ай бұрын

You're right. I just noticed it. Oh boy, that is awkward.

@vipernight2

11 ай бұрын

I called that out on last video never got a response.

@sausagepocket

11 ай бұрын

I also noticed it, it would be nice to see a response to that comment 👍

@lennardmeij8763

11 ай бұрын

is not only with that fish. there is also a video that even after the fight while scooping the fish you can see that the legs are still in it. and I also wonder how strong the mechanism is because you are now playing the fish on only a swifel that is no longer attached to your line.

@RebelsRogue

11 ай бұрын

@@lennardmeij8763 I think it's pretty strong as there's a length of 85lb braid between the QC and the swivel. But it doesn't look like it triggers very well. Something is not quite right.

Is there an inline version?

Can’t wait for these come out :) loads of bans for people and more empty lakes for me 😂😂😂

Does it work on a running system?

Why why why I’m fishing the same as I did in the 80s and still catching my target fish

@luciussander8217

10 ай бұрын

Good luck with that if you fished the waters I do.

Ps can it be cast or swung out to say 25 yards without needing taping up ?

Would of liked to see it moulded including lead clip as that would make it far more stable rather than a pin in an existing lead clip?????

Would this work in conjunction with a method feeder?

How does it react in weedy water. I loose a lot of tackle in the river Ouzel due to blasted weed

Is this not classed as an automatic hooking device? In which case it is not permitted under EA rules....

You managed to avoid talking about all the serious issues everyone is talking about.

@loftygaskell8239

11 ай бұрын

Which is 🤔

@Ian-Dixon

11 ай бұрын

​@@loftygaskell8239Fish safety

@fishingsammystyle8682

11 ай бұрын

Safety, and is it unnecessary?

@joeking57

11 ай бұрын

Totally unnecessary.. No matter what all pro"s think😂😂😂, just something else for carp to trail. Very unprofessional to be honest and more stupid than clever

@odannyboy26

11 ай бұрын

My leaders have qc clips on the end!! So now do I need to buy new leaders with different lead clips to take this???

I'm all for new innovative ideas such as this....although the video of the big fish caught looks like the clip has not been released / activated

@sanderreukers3563

11 ай бұрын

No, that fish felt the hook and turned before it activated.

@joeking57

11 ай бұрын

So therefore absolutely pointless😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@aTmospheriKzDnB

11 ай бұрын

@@joeking57 exactly

Is this product aimed at the European market as some UK Fisherys had already started banning this magic twig!

Will it work reversed so the arms point backwards?

How was prunet in France? Kinda left your "prototype" in the lake with 100m of mainline before it was released! So it was only you using that

When does it come out

On a more serious note. Are white underpants a bad idea for session fishing?

@geffthebricky

10 ай бұрын

Camo undies are a must on long sessions as any skid marks just blend in !

When are these out I need some

Yeah I’ve zoomed in and played it through time and time again and it certainly doesn’t look like the device sprung at all?

Ali, as there are so many comments about the carp thats pictured on the packet not been hooked by the magic twig could you comment about it please

@garymorley3476

11 ай бұрын

Same aS the video

@9dicko

11 ай бұрын

He won't the weight of the lead pulling the hook home as all rigs.

Hats off to you Ali for producing a product that gives us anglers an extra edge however, theres a big concern that i like many club waters have which has resulted in the product already being banned... which is, is it safe for the fish? If someone cracks off on cast leaving the entire rig active, if it hooks a fish the lead will drop off but surely that leaves the fish dragging around the open twig system which is then likely to catch on a snag? As much as i like you and the product, fish safety must come first and im yet to see anything from omc covering this with the product

@SwedishEgg1

11 ай бұрын

They have banned a product without even seeing it, all the sensible fisheries have said they will check it out themselves and test it to see if it’s safe or not. I doubt Ali would release a product what hasn’t been extensively tested to be safe.

@niclawrence6637

11 ай бұрын

@@SwedishEgg1 yeah and that was my response to them too. When you think about how the rig would be after a crack off though, surely its like the fish would be hooked and dragging an anchor around so doesn't seem like it would be safe.. which is why omc need to release something to explain how it would react to a crack off

@dubvibes731

11 ай бұрын

@@niclawrence6637 another scenario is fish in the net , open twig system slips through mesh and becomes tangled , when it thrashes the hook rips out leaving damage ?

@spoony4312

11 ай бұрын

Couple of fishery I got have already adjusted the rules for this. It's a no go

@LewOConnell

11 ай бұрын

I made a few comments about this on Facebook Instagram and they all got deleted, I used to like omc but this doesn’t show me they care about carp more than money

This has been banned on every lake in my area within 30miles guessin its the same for most others. How is this safe for a start the arms are going to get caught in the landing net and cause damage to the mouth of the fish. Looking at it the fish can lose the lead and the lead clip but looks like it will still have the hooklink like normal and then it will also have the twig with it whats stopping that from getting caught in weed or other line due to the arms sticking out. Also its got the perfect front cover for it showing the twig dont work as its not even gone off.

Perhaps I am seeing things, but that looks like a bolt fixed rig to me, or am I wrong? My hair rigs have a swivel instead of a loop, how on earth could I attach it to such a device? Not convinced as yet.

Ok, so people banned goo before and then changed after. So i understand fisheries caring for the stock, better to be safe than sorry. But i have a question, if for some reason you get snapped up on the cast a fish then picks it up,the first thing they will do is head for a snag. The arms will get snagged on a branch, how easy will the break if they do get snagged?

Ok I’m convinced it won’t damage fish When’s it in shops .? I’m assuming it’s ok with a straight running lead with no lead clip ?

It's progression, nobody liked bait boat ,but we use them ,boilies after maggot, worms ,sweet corn and bread ,bait and takle move faward, progression 👍👍👍

Looks a grate invention, Impressive just like using alastic as a shock leader

Right back to the spring of 2023....not that far back

@matthewchapman6404

11 ай бұрын

Allllllllll that testing 😂

On the photo on the box, the twig hasn’t even gone off!! And you’re using that as the main advertisement for the product???

That underwater dude pushes the lead into the silt an lays it all out with bait perfectly😂 if you want a self triggering device put a waggler on and strike when it goes under😂

Looks great! Can you fish the lead drop off style with a hybrid lead clip for example?

@gheslop3440

11 ай бұрын

@gwl78 I always drop the lead, especially on weedy waters. The fish comes straight to the top and doesn't hug the deeper water like they tend to with the lead attached. A lot easier to play and land the fish and I haven't had a snagged/lost fish since I started dropping leads

@tonysmall3863

8 ай бұрын

@@gheslop3440isn’t it a tad unnecessary to drop leads if there’s no weed or snags? Surely that’s just a waste of money.

@gheslop3440

8 ай бұрын

@tonysmall3863 I predominantly fish less weedy waters but I find the fish coming straight into the upper layers of the water once the lead has dropped, lands me more fish. I'd rather lose a £2 lead per fish than risk losing a fish by not dropping the lead. Plus, the lakes I fish I'd be lucky to land more than 4 fish in a session so that's not even £10 lost. Worth it in my opinion, each to their own though

@tonysmall3863

8 ай бұрын

@@gheslop3440 dedication that with such a low catch rate. 👏🏻 makes them that more special when they come along.

With bite alarms and auto hooking are you even really fishing anymore?

@sammy000cheese

11 ай бұрын

Bite alarms don’t take away skill poor example, bolt rigs and auto hooking are a better example

Sir I am from India how chould I bye this can share this link

Where can i buy

Thats a shame..i get Ali and Omc are trying to change things up but after reading the comments about it not ativating. I rewatched at low speed and zoomed in...think theres 6 clips and it activates in 2...and not the one on the packet..😢

Can u only use them on a lead system? What about a running rig setup?

@8117hen

11 ай бұрын

Ali will probably say yes 🤷 It's a nightmare product, due to so many variables to consider. Even when you catch a carp, how do you know it actually worked. 🤔

I like it. I still need to see it in thick weed, I can’t see how the arms won’t act a weed catching device when the fish is charging off with the arms open (forget cut offs)

@OMCYouTube

11 ай бұрын

You will see it in snags, heavy weed and many terrains in the brand new series of The Grand Fishing Adventure coming to ITV in October and other content coming imminently! Do you think we would release a product that doesn’t suit all of the crazy places we face when filming?

@neilsaunders5489

11 ай бұрын

@@OMCKZread I don’t think you would at all. I’d still like to see it and it’s good I will. Thanks

In the video, the fish is hooked but I can't see the device go off, the arms are still down aren't they?

Extensive underwater testing we go way way back to the spring of 2023 😂😂 that’s like 3 months ago lmao, I do get the grind I really do, but it’s shit this product

How much will they cost for a packet ?

It will definitely catch a lot of anglers.... job done

@jozefhorvat3625

11 ай бұрын

😂😂😂👍👍👍

I notice that it triggers after the lead is lifted off the bottom, when the line is slack on the real side of the trigger its effectiveness is neutralised as the trigger pulls of the slack real side line as well...!!

Well done

I would prefer build in lead clip, anyways this is insane🎉

Biggest issue you have with it and you need to address it Ali. Is the problem that keeps coming up on why lakes have banned it is the arms that hold the trigger will snag in nets and in weed. I think you must address this to put people mind at ease. I have used a bungee type rig over 30 years ago with no problems. It’s the snag issue that is the problem mate

@vincentbarwell5943

11 ай бұрын

And some lakes ban boillies the point is lake owners can be very fussy with what's allowed in lakes

@dubvibes731

11 ай бұрын

Not only do they not address the issue of snagging , they remove negative comments and skirt around it like a politician , terrible product that's going to cause damage to mouths

@davehutton7635

11 ай бұрын

Correct we used the Bungee rig thirty years ago just another trick of smoke and mirrors.we Old school Carper's have seen it all before.

@pallydude3751

11 ай бұрын

How will he get publicity if he doesn’t give us a few videos of useless information first

Problem is most fisheries in the UK have already put notices up on socials saying its not allowed to be used

loads of lakes are banning it though?

Still not convinced in the slightest. It’s only achievement is causing the carp to bolt. At 4.5oz trigger pressure the fish is already fully hooked by the weight of the lead.

On ever video from under water it don’t even look like it pops open when the fish lifts it up or is that just my eyes ???

I've used something similar for over 2 decades now, an elasticated method feeder stem with braid tied to each end to stop over stretching and acts as a life line.. I don't understand why you need the trigger arms that will obviously be dangerous to fish safety as other folk have already pointed out.. maybe turn the rig upside down with the swivels the other way around to prevent snagging? That's if the arms are that necessary with a spring loaded device..

Looks like a pucka product when can I buy one?

Are you actually going to be use these in England

Right back to the spring of 2023! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

What about on extremely weedy venues? I'm not hearing anything on that subject.

Interesting.

So it's basically a self hooking mechanism? Is that not similar to a bolt rig

@luciussander8217

10 ай бұрын

No

Poachers are gonna love this,you may have invented an injustice Ali

I bet this device would be ace for sea fishing

Would it not be an idea to use a picture on the packet of the product actually working properly, it didn't trigger and didn't aid in hooking that carp.

@Eightball69

11 ай бұрын

Exactly. I can't believe they chose that shot. It's like an April Fools this whole thing 😂

@adammilburn6421

11 ай бұрын

Sure there was an opportunity to use a different shot of the product,be interesting to see where it goes,obviously can't comment on it as I've not used it but I also can't see it going on my rigs.

It doesn’t open in any of the footage?

Right back to the spring of 2023 😂

@thetruth_uk2009

11 ай бұрын

I thought that he was going to say right back to 2019 or something 🤣 still feel like we're in spring

I am convinced this will get more fish on the bank. Curious to see what happens in case of line breakage . Would only be fish safe if the rig line would be the weakest link of the total, so fished with light rigs. As far as I can see the big fish in the video seems to feel the hook and turn away before it activated.

@stephenmorris4409

11 ай бұрын

No dead fish ban it.

@emperium6224

11 ай бұрын

So would shooting them but does not mean you should use this crap

Surely it would be slightly better if the arms open the the other way so they fold in if the fish does bolt through weed ??

@chrislawrence7351

11 ай бұрын

But when you reel the fish in through a weed bed it would act as a rake

@dickstar12

11 ай бұрын

Suppose it doesn't matter they will either get caught going in or coming out. Great concept but it needs to be an enclosed in-line system, I'm sure all tackle companies will be bringing their own versions out

Apparently there's a 50k fine for using these in the Thames area around London in fact quite a area tbh but thing in next 2 years complete ban from what IV heard

Banging

Bought sum yes good idea canot use them at any lakes where i live 🤷‍♂️ after seeing all the tests on youtube put them in the bin

What about safety and tangle aspects ? On the cast will the hook catch the arms ? Then making it unsafe ? Obviously making u fish all night and day with a useless rig ?? But more importantly making a fish teathered if it picks up the tangled rig ? Serious question

Would like to see a mini twig as i feel this is too long and bulky

Hope Steve rayard getting something from this , when I heard about this self hooking device I thought this was invented years ago, but couldn't think who it was , I think he called it the hemit Steve rayard a blast from the past

call it what you want doesn't change the fact the majority of UK lakes have banned it before it launched and in some regions of the UK it will be illegal to use as it is an automatic hooking device

@ragnorremix8426

11 ай бұрын

UK might ban it but rest of the world probably won't , definitely a global product that will make millions

@OMCYouTube

11 ай бұрын

Could you kindly list them all or substantiate your comment? Some of the most popular venues in the land like the world famous Linear Fisheries it’s allowed no issue, Todber Manor another superb busy fishery it’s allowed, so many venues it’s allowed. Please don’t fall for the hate on social and look for facts. 🙏🏽

@TwisTeDRAMPAGE7

11 ай бұрын

@@OMCKZread Farlows, nuddukwood, multiple lakes in France, old mill, majestics and they are just the ones local to me that I saw them personally state it was banned

@andrewtrussler9299

11 ай бұрын

rdaa has also banned it from all its waters

@stevep119

11 ай бұрын

@@OMCKZread just go on the pages for fisheries up and down the country, South west lakes trust banned it on all of their waters, Kernow coarse fishery Banned it, Ladywood Lakes banned it, kingsbury water park banned it, farlows banned it, Coking farm banned it, the conahs quay angling club banned it on all their waters, Moss nook lake banned it, Roseau carp fishery banned it, Moss nook banned it, Bathampton Angling Association banned it on all their waters, Wentworth Fisheries banned it, Legendia in france banned it, Glehias in france banned it and the list could keep going. I'm not saying they are right to ban it just the fact lots of fisheries have banned it before it got launched. Also putting out the fact that certain regions of the UK have bylaws that ban the use of automatic hooking devices. which is the anglers responsibility to check local by laws.

Can't wait to see the amount of people who self hook them self's even more now hahaha

Lmfao I died at pva cable tie 💀🤣

I like it !!!!! Good work!

As from a couple of days ago SW Water have banned these on ALL their waters.

How can i order to Germany?

@paulstratton5147

11 ай бұрын

Sorry but you can't, EU customs will confiscate it & melt it down for humane reasons 😊

If you ever feel useless remember someone decided to make this product

He must of thought about the back lash it would receive with the splins sticking of, why did it not be in reverse so the splines are the opposite way round and made smaller.

How much 🤔

One question I have is can this work with inline leads as thats my preferred fishing method?

@stephenmorris4409

11 ай бұрын

No.

just ordered the leadclip version, when is the heli version out al? cheers

Ali, could this be used on a heli setup ?