The Madness of Social Housing in the United Kingdom

Ep.10. The Madness of Social Housing in the United Kingdom
An in depth look at the truth and madness that lies behind social housing in the United Kingdom.
Sources:
Dwelling Statistics by Local Authority:
assets.publishing.service.gov...
Social Housing Statistics for Local Authority Housing:
www.gov.uk/government/uploads...
Social housing Statistics for Housing Association Housing:
www.gov.uk/government/statist...
Housing Benefit Claim statistics (incl.by Local Authority, whether in Social Housing and average weekly cost of tenure):
www.gov.uk/government/uploads...
Waiting Lists by Local Authority:
www.gov.uk/government/uploads...
Proportion of Social Housing Benefit Recipients and Household Savings :
English Housing Survey - Annex Table 2.6 and 2.14
www.gov.uk/government/uploads...
Estimate of high earning social housing tenants:
"High Income Social Tenants Pay to Stay" Consultation paper:
assets.publishing.service.gov...
Re-letting rate and discount to market rent of social housing by local authority:
assets.publishing.service.gov...
(see CORE data for more general information on social housing lettings)
www.gov.uk/government/statist...
Historical Rate of social housing lettings:
CORE Summary data: assets.publishing.service.gov...
Historical Propotions of Social Housing:
Live Table 102 DCHLG: assets.publishing.service.gov...
Historical Data on Right to Buy by Local Authority:
Live Table 685 DCHLG: assets.publishing.service.gov...
Good article outlining history of 2010 social housing funding changes:
www.insidehousing.co.uk/insig...
New Social Housing Construction by funding scheme:
Live Table 1000 DCHLG :assets.publishing.service.gov...
Change to level of Section 106 demand:
Savills: Affordable Housing: Building through cycles
pdf.euro.savills.co.uk/uk/res...

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  • @tormon506
    @tormon5064 жыл бұрын

    if I rented on the private market, I would have to get benefits. I would not be able to afford that. Just being in a low cost house with no benefits doesn't mean you don't deserve the house.

  • @Amelia-qg9po

    @Amelia-qg9po

    3 жыл бұрын

    You tend to get better houses on private market, that’s why there more expensive. You get bigger ones in better areas and condition

  • @abjolm22

    @abjolm22

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Amelia, You may be partially correct. Though I believe the average case shows that private rental homes lead in metrics surrounding faliure to reach a “decent” home standard, central heating, and having no damp. You could be correct if one uses floor space as the general metric. Private rental tenures entertain marginally higher area, yet has seen a plummeting size between 1996 and 2015, and as prices rebound, this will probably continue to go down.

  • @flashclynes
    @flashclynes4 жыл бұрын

    The reason I don’t need to claim benefits is because I live in a social home. If I freed up the house for somebody on the waiting list I’d have to rent privately and pay the market rate. Witch I couldn’t afford and I’d have to claim housing benefit. There for I’d be eligible for social housing. Circular logic FYI I’m saving for a mortgage

  • @hobbabobba7912

    @hobbabobba7912

    2 жыл бұрын

    I get that however, that doesn't mean you should be in a social house, if I were the government I would prefer that you pay rent in the private sector and maybe claim a bit in benefits and free up that house for someone more in need.

  • @jaredgarbo3679

    @jaredgarbo3679

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hobbabobba7912 Or they could have it that those not claiming HB but live in docile housing will pay market rates.

  • @mart2611

    @mart2611

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@jaredgarbo3679 and if you move into private rented you'll potentially be moving every couple of years. Successive moving costs and outrageous deposits. No thanks

  • @unoperatic2800
    @unoperatic28004 жыл бұрын

    Interestingly, you can't claim benefits if you've got more than £16k in savings but not own a house but you can absolutely do so if you own a castle.

  • @missredumbrella

    @missredumbrella

    2 жыл бұрын

    rich get richer, poor get poorer

  • @tanatribe

    @tanatribe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can’t have more then £6000

  • @meshezza

    @meshezza

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can, but it’s calculated with your benefits. £6000 is disregarded, over £6000-16000 is calculated with benefits and over £16000 you can’t claim universal credit

  • @Bogna1

    @Bogna1

    Жыл бұрын

    The story of my life. I am on low income, working full time on law wages but always have too much savings to claim anything. I always manage my budget smartly and never spent more than I earned.

  • @Bogna1

    @Bogna1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@meshezza I couldn't get covid grant because of having too much savings while my colleague with the same wage got it easily. Not sure if they checked just my classic or saving account too.

  • @BensWorkshop
    @BensWorkshop5 жыл бұрын

    People who get into social housing have a provable need. If you force them to move out because their situation improves then they will make sure their situation doesn't improve. Also you appear to criticise people who have built savings etc. for a rainy day. It is also worth pointing out that not being able to claim benefits isn't the same as being able to afford local rent near to where you have built your life to earn enough to get off benefits.

  • @showdonttell2859

    @showdonttell2859

    5 жыл бұрын

    Obviously there is no issue with people with provable need living in social housing. Your arguments is ultimately about where we draw the (arbitrary) line about when people could be assessed as no longer in need of social housing. As I try and illustrate with the income, savings and tenancy statistics, for a very sizable number of people a social home has become a personal asset rather than a communal benefit, and many people are suffering as a result of this attitude and policy.

  • @BensWorkshop

    @BensWorkshop

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@showdonttell2859 Need changes. You can start out needing social housing and then your circumstances may improve. If you say to people that they will lose their provision as a matter of law if their circumstances improve then many will ensure that their circumstances stay just below the limit. The bigger issues is lack of building housing in general and social housing in particular and also sub letting which is larger than the figures suggest as they don't look very hard for it.

  • @hpsauce1078

    @hpsauce1078

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@showdonttell2859 He has a good point, because if the policies you suggest here were implemented you would probably be criticising how social housing causes people to keep themselves in self induced poverty out of fear of losing their current residence.

  • @showdonttell2859

    @showdonttell2859

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't beleive I advocated any specific policy other than pointing out the simple facts of the current situation, and how egrigiously inefficient its outcomes are. I absolutely agree that if you draw a line somewhere, people will try and manoever to remain below it, however this is true of any system of taxation that contains allowances, and has never been so strong an argument to oppose the imposition of taxes. The idea that a council house is so valuable that someone would choose to live an unemployed or impoverished lifestyle when they could enjoy a more prosperous life, I find either unlikely or a powerful statement about the remarkable monetary value that must be attached to some social housing.

  • @BensWorkshop

    @BensWorkshop

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@showdonttell2859 I think you misunderstand the way both housing benefit works (and in particular how it can be a trap) and how social housing works together with things like overtime. Lets say for example, I qualify for social housing and indeed housing benefit. I then get a job which allows me to skill up. I do but it's a line of work that has intermittent earnings like for example, the building trade. I'd be nuts to move out until I could afford to actually buy a house. In fact, there is a high chance I'd buy the one I was in particularly if I had invested in it by way of DIY (some social tenants do, most don't). In any case I am not going to trade social rent for private rent. I'd also point out that you don't need to be earning much to no longer qualify for housing benefit. The big issue is lack of total housing. Of all sorts.

  • @malterwitty5433
    @malterwitty54333 жыл бұрын

    Social housing used to be looked down on, now especially since the 90’s it became a very sought after option where lots who get a social home in fact don’t need it . It’s ruined

  • @sharonbutler7388
    @sharonbutler73883 жыл бұрын

    They stopped lifetime tenancy a few years back so after that date it changed to ten years then you are reviewed to see if you still need that size property or if you have enough money saved to put a deposit down on your own place. If we didn’t have council home and private rented we would have to claim housing benefit, and also don’t forget the housing benefit is paid out of our taxes we earn by working. So the more people who pay their own full rents means the less is used from our taxes.

  • @raymondwhitehouse9922
    @raymondwhitehouse99224 жыл бұрын

    Why are over 80%of MPs private landlords?

  • @BlackTeethMedia

    @BlackTeethMedia

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's a decent way to keep your money safe and a good investment

  • @Tom-pe4iw

    @Tom-pe4iw

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nearly every middle-upper class people are private landlords. I am a private landlord it a good investment

  • @raymondwhitehouse9922
    @raymondwhitehouse99224 жыл бұрын

    Why do I qualify to pay for social housing but don't qualify to receive social housing... Is it because I work for a living and put my name on my sons birth certificate?

  • @sasablink

    @sasablink

    4 жыл бұрын

    No because in the eye of the law and society you perfectly capable of making a living without added help. If life turns around which i don't wish that upon you, you will qualify. Helping the less fortunate forces them out of perpetuating poverty, helping the society progress more in the long run, as the cumulative potential of all individuals is expanded. Helping the less fortunate is also morally sound. Feel free to escape a country with (few) socialistic beliefs and migrate to one with even less.

  • @GuillermoLG552
    @GuillermoLG5525 жыл бұрын

    If Council house/Social house rent was set at one third of gross household income (like people in the private market pay) those on high incomes would pay their fair share or move. Those on the lowest incomes would have their rents reduced. Homes for the needy not for the greedy!

  • @abjolm22

    @abjolm22

    3 жыл бұрын

    This was recently introduced by the replacement of social rented housing with “affordable rent” I believe. And the opposition negotiated a temporary taper up to 15% of income. I love your idea in theory, but if deployed wrong it can lead to a disincentive to earn more potentially. It also doesn’t do much to eradicate the issue of supply of social housing.

  • @dude44045

    @dude44045

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is a very good idea

  • @kristinesharp6286

    @kristinesharp6286

    2 жыл бұрын

    It used to be 50 years ago half of all homes were council homes. I don’t think vilifying the 17%-20% that are in it or would like it makes much sense given many of them grew up in social homes. Also the reason more don’t need social housing is the inherited home of those who did right to buy. For the generations in social housing they have a child or grandchild in that property. It’s those new to social housing being called greedy.

  • @mks8172
    @mks81723 жыл бұрын

    Build more social housing and 4 bed houses as building it would make living cheaper.

  • @slippin_jimmy
    @slippin_jimmy4 жыл бұрын

    Being unable to afford to buy a home and being trapped handing over virtually all your earnings each month to greedy private landlords is the modern-day equivalent of slavery. Why would any tenant not want to escape that? The housing crisis is the result of unrestricted capitalism under a Conservative government, with the rules designed to maximize income for private landlords. Clearly the guy who made this video has no understanding of what it's like to be a private tenant, having no security and never knowing where you'll be living one year to the next.

  • @carlverledge2687

    @carlverledge2687

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly very well put also to add its a well known fact that some of the highest paid landlords in the country are M.P's.

  • @jacquelineithell307

    @jacquelineithell307

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes it all went to pot under what was her name yes thats it WICKED WITCH MARGARET THATCHER FACT

  • @TheMirrorGuy

    @TheMirrorGuy

    Жыл бұрын

    I think social housing rent should be the same cost as the market value. Then make sure wages and benefits pay enough to cover these costs. Social rents in my opinion are unfair and drive down wages.

  • @BensWorkshop
    @BensWorkshop5 жыл бұрын

    It's also worth pointing out that housing associations are not allowed to make a profit, this despite renting out houses for 60% of their original purchase cost per year. Most social housing stock is old not new (which is fine because quite a lot is reasonably well built). Instead they seem to piss money up the wall on executive pay. Also new affordable housing doesn't cost what new housing costs because: 1. Fixtures and fittings are not as expensive. 2. Social housing is built on cursed land, that is, as a planning requirement to build social housing there particularly as a condition of building private housing. The overall answer is of course to build more houses.

  • @juniorlinden7030
    @juniorlinden70303 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see how this looks for 2021 - I have to do a similar project for my final year at Uni - where did you gather all your data?

  • @abdelazizhamouda4363
    @abdelazizhamouda43632 жыл бұрын

    The problem with social housing .is that there are people who were given large houses when they had a large family .after their children grow up and move out .these selfish people don't want to move to smaller houses. And give the chance to others . We are a family of six people me my wife three daughters and a son. Living in a two bedroom flat .while a few of my neighbours .one of them is a single lady living on her own in a four rooms house. She doesn't to move out because she says she has good memories there. The social housing laws have to be changed. If people are told move out to a smaller house or risk being evicted from your home .they would move out .giving others the chance . People are selfish. And they behave as of they own the homes they were offered by the council.

  • @eps200
    @eps2005 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly the video ive been after. Will be sharing this for months.

  • @susanelliott2287
    @susanelliott22874 жыл бұрын

    Why should people who are not wealthy i.e working give up social housing just to let in irresponsible people who for instance have loads of children even when they have nowhere to take them and cannot really afford them.. Then there are people who pay nothing into the system at all but expect the taxpayer to pay for everything for them. I am not saying all the people on the waiting list are like this but there are a lot who are. The honest and decent people who do not call into these categories have my sympathy and I hope you Get a nice place soon.

  • @TheMirrorGuy

    @TheMirrorGuy

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree, and believe that social housing pushes down wages. It is a totally unfair discount. Look at how higher energy costs are making headlines, yet the difference in social rents compared to private renting or mortgages, is so much greater. This is unfair on those on low wages.

  • @guardian100

    @guardian100

    Жыл бұрын

    There is a lot of reasons, anger won't get you far.

  • @nc7590
    @nc75904 жыл бұрын

    Something is missed to be mentioned in this video: after the gov rules being made in a way to promoting the increase in price, the councils BUY ex council flats at market price to house the social Housing tenants. So again it is tax payers affording the SELL cheap BUY expensively.

  • @slavmarin7827
    @slavmarin78273 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! great video!

  • @galluses
    @galluses4 жыл бұрын

    Not one mention of a fair rent act. Also the cost of building housing is dependent on absurdly inflated land values. Rents and mortgages are far higher than they were before financial deregulation by Thatcher's govt. Why shouldn't tenants in the private or council/housing assoc. have security of tenure? If they're paying their rent and being good neighbours that is all that counts. Britain has very poor quality housing, its ridiculously expensive and the only country in Western Europe that doesn't have minimum size regulations for properties. So tenants and homeowners of crappy new builds are paying fortunes to the rich to live in shoe boxes that are tomorrows slums.

  • @birthcertificate7223
    @birthcertificate72234 жыл бұрын

    homeless shelter where i stayed charged 240 per week, to stay i had to claim HB of 800 per month

  • @PsycInColour

    @PsycInColour

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow 😩

  • @michaelplank8966
    @michaelplank89663 жыл бұрын

    A simple question how do you run a country with to many people or over crowding thats why prices are so high supply and demand its so simple now i would live in my van a house is out of the question

  • @moltitrader
    @moltitrader3 жыл бұрын

    BORRIS JOHNSON ruined Renting scheme by introducing (affordable rent) which is double the price of social rent. How do you manage to call something twice the price affordable. I call it (BORRIS RENT) so people relate better to it. I rent a housing association 1 bed for £220 at newly created (affordable rent) a month but previous tenants paid £110 at (social rent). BORRIS doubled the price literally. BORRIS is after all the land lord class, what does he know about working class.

  • @andrewl8514
    @andrewl85144 жыл бұрын

    What does section 106 dictate for housing associations? What is the % of social homes they need to build vs affordable homes? I can't find this

  • @stevenhull5025
    @stevenhull5025 Жыл бұрын

    Some years back when I lived in West London I knew of an Indian doctor and his wife (also a doctor) plus their two daughters who had a three bed council estate flat which they rented out. In the meantime, they owned (and lived in) a three bed semi near the hospital where they both worked. The rent from their council flat was paying their mortgage on their semi. As I am no snitch I kept all this to myself. I sometimes ask myself how many other scam artists are out there doing the exact same thing. I bet it is a considerable as our councils, being cash poor, no doubt have difficulty checking up on the financials of every single council tenant.

  • @desbest4
    @desbest43 жыл бұрын

    The Conservative government already tried to get people in social housing to swap houses with people more needy than them with the Bedroom Tax. People found by the government to have spare bedrooms were made to downsize to smaller homes while households that were overcrowding gained the bigger house. What you are proposing is that people should be evicted from social housing once their income no longer qualifies them for Housing Benefit. This is a bad idea as it overlooks in-work poverty, and a lot of people who work full time cannot afford rent in the private sector, so they are dependent on social housing with below market rate rent to survive.

  • @fercarcolin
    @fercarcolin2 жыл бұрын

    Hi, this was super interesting. I am writing a paper about the theme, is there any chance you could recommend me some bibliography on the subject? I would just like to justify why it would be important, sustainable and more affordable to conserve what already exists.

  • @EnorMouseUK
    @EnorMouseUK5 жыл бұрын

    Taxpayer Assistance with Housing Costs is a complete mess. Take for example a new development by a major builder with two identical properties, one purchased by a social housing organisation for 'Affordable' letting and one purchased by a private landlord for renting at the market rent. Lets say that the properties are around the 50% decile, that is half the properties in the area rent out for more and half for less and the market rent is £1,000 per month. The Housing Association is able to buy the property at a discounted price, due to S106 and receives a capital grant from the Government on top. Due to this it charges £800 rent per month and the tenant can claim £800 Housing Benefit. The Private Landlord's purchase price will in fact be slightly inflated due to having to contribute to the developers S106 obligations. They charge the tenant the full £1,000 per month market rent but will not be able to obtain tax relief on the mortgage interest they pay, unlike the Housing Association. Whilst the tenant pays the full £1,000 rent, their Housing Benefit, as a Private Tenant, is capped at the 30% decile so may be only £850. This means that the tenant, despite being entitled to full Housing Benefit, has to find £150 per month from their own resources to rent an identical property simply because they were lower down the waiting list. This is clearly unfair. The Government needs to claw back all previous Capital Grants and convert them into interest bearing loans. S106 should be repealed and potentially reversed. All notion of reduced rents for 'Social' and 'Affordable' housing should be scrapped and the full market rent charged at all times (with the possible exception of special needs housing). There should be a single fair system of Housing Benefit, incorporating the Universal Credit maxim that a person who works and claims benefit should be better off than one who just claims benefit. Paying Housing Benefit on full market rents compared to previous 'Social' and 'Affordable' rents will of course cost the Government more, however they will get the benefit of the interest on the reversal of the previous capital grants to offset against this. One advantage of doing things this way is that the entire process is a lot more transparent. Both 'Social' and 'Private' landlords are treated the same as providers of rented property. There are no hidden subsidies and market rents charged across the board, so all tenants pay the fair rent. The Housing Benefit system reflects the full cost of TAwHC and ensures that such support is provided to those that currently need it. @Show Don't Tell @Benedict White

  • @mattw8332
    @mattw83325 жыл бұрын

    Maybe those social housing tenants with a few thousand pounds saved up are hoping to buy a house?

  • @lewismcdonald9691

    @lewismcdonald9691

    4 жыл бұрын

    Then they should buy one then

  • @Amelia-qg9po

    @Amelia-qg9po

    3 жыл бұрын

    Manly, the jobless scruffs who are happy to live their life off benefits all day and smoke weed live in council houses

  • @IdK-pv4pn

    @IdK-pv4pn

    3 жыл бұрын

    As somebody who works 34 hours a week and Lives in a council home; It’s quite hard as I’m on Roughly £38,000 a year; We struggle and my daughter doesn’t even have a bed, So we try and for @Amelia, We aren’t all scruffs; But their are a few Minga’s 🤣 xx

  • @JFP1988

    @JFP1988

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@IdK-pv4pn you struggle on 38k a year lol. Right and how many kids do you have? No way you get 38k a year and work only 34 hrs a week and you're struggling.

  • @IdK-pv4pn

    @IdK-pv4pn

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JFP1988 Im A supply teacher in a secondary school, Have 3 Beautiful kids, And in debt from my student loan.

  • @user-eo8jx7jq4u
    @user-eo8jx7jq4u5 жыл бұрын

    My social worker complained about being made to wait years on the list for her council house! Its only just occurred to me now how bizarre this is. She has a secure Norwich city council job, can afford to rent privately, buy or use buy to let schemes. With her partner also earning, I cannot understand NORWICH city council justifying this family with grown up children, taking a low rent social house away from a homeless family. HOW MANY OTHER FAMILIES ARE THEIR IN NORWICH, RESIDING IN DESPERATELY NEEDED HOUSING YEAR IN YEAR OUT, BEING WAY BEYOND THE PERSONAL AND FINANCIAL NEEDS OF HOMELESS POVERTY STRICKEN LOCAL PEOPLE? THIS IS CORRUPTION OF THE POOREST, PEOPLE SHOULD BE MEANS TESTED EVERY TEN YEARS.

  • @beninglis8097

    @beninglis8097

    5 жыл бұрын

    rachael m, we both know that didnt happen... they don’t just give social housing to employed couples.

  • @racheltaaffe8357

    @racheltaaffe8357

    5 жыл бұрын

    I agree! I have a sister suffering from debilitating mental health issues since she was a child and she is forced to live in an abusive environment because the council says she's not in need. It baffles me that members of the immigrant community cannot understand why native English people would feel upset at having been left behind when refugees come flooding into the country and are supplied with housing, most of which is free. The immigrant community needs to understand why some sectors of the British public feel aggrieved by this. Otherwise, integration becomes less likely and racisim is fuelled. People who feel this way are not horrible people but are people who are experiencing difficulties also and feel abandoned. Everyone looks to their own situation first before offering an altruistic hand. That's just human nature.

  • @mattw8332

    @mattw8332

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have been a tenant of Norwich City Council since late 2017, having rented privately. My flat was subject to a 'sensitive let' condition, I was chosen for it despite being 'low priority'. I was paying 47% of my net income to my last landlord whereas I am now paying around 25%. I can save up a lot more money in paying less rent and continue to be a good tenant. My goal is to save up for a deposit to buy a modest house. I have no intention to 'right to buy' on my current flat. Perhaps your social worker has a similar aim to mine? At least she had to wait for her council house like others and wasn't given one off the bat. In my case was a little surprised the the housing officers didn't ask for my proof of income before signing the tenancy. However, if they ever were to change their rules and serve me notice on the grounds that my income is too high (I earn below the national average for the Norwich City area), I will accept their decision and move into a private dwelling.

  • @sadiqrahman2526
    @sadiqrahman25263 жыл бұрын

    Do you also review train stations by any chance?

  • @oneeleven9832
    @oneeleven98322 жыл бұрын

    The council should be able to buy land at farm land prices…re designate land for housing. Put roads & infrastructure in and sell plots to a variety of builders big & small & self builders (at there cost)…there you go problem solved….get rid of all schemes & that will save on all the administration as well..

  • @jayrider2726
    @jayrider27264 жыл бұрын

    I pay 1500usd Dollars a month for a studio apartment in Queens. I sure wish I could move to the UK and only pay a percentage of my income.

  • @andrewl8514

    @andrewl8514

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's not that easy, first you need to be in a situation to qualify for social housing, which most people never will. Then you need to be in this situation long enough to forego the waiting list. Basically endure 2 yrs poverty to enjoy half rent for life.

  • @Kedda486

    @Kedda486

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's it 2 yrs I'm down i been in NYC slm my life whats 2 yrs nothing . I wanna move to the UK 2

  • @desbest4

    @desbest4

    3 жыл бұрын

    Most British people don't qualify for council housing as they don't have enough points or would be given zero points so they aren't eligible. So the chances of you qualifying is very small.

  • @christianhunter9061
    @christianhunter90616 ай бұрын

    Illegally subletting a social home at market rent in London is an atrocious act!

  • @kendavis5686
    @kendavis56863 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much Thomas. Of course what the pandemic has now highlighted is the equal absurdity of job availability in the south-east because many workers do not now need to commute any where near as much if at all. Because of the huge imbalance in land costs many people can indeed now work from low cost areas. All the government has to do is change corporation tax to reward firms that locate in places where land is cheap and/or houses are empty (or come to that based on how many workers move to such areas), while penalising firms that stay in high housing demand/cost areas. Karl Marx must actually be turning in his grave because the means of production is no longer making stuff or digging holes in the ground, but intelligence. Not only can most of us get it if we want but it is also highly transportable because of the internet. I moved to much cheaper housing on the coast many years ago.

  • @kendavis5686
    @kendavis56863 жыл бұрын

    This little story is now well out of date of course. The times they are a changing. There are two main things wrong with social housing which have been entirely missed here. Firstly, it was a bad idea in the first; subsidising housing was only ever a way of avoiding paying people a proper wage. Secondly, absurd capital limits (and the view that the poor only deserve poor housing) reduced the quality of housing so pushing up maintenance costs and contributing to health costs, time off work etc. What is forgotten in this sad story, created by well meaning but mis-informed politicians, is that a powerful force in creating your family is the drive to create your own nest. Secondly, the cost of land is often a ridiculous proportion of the actual development cost in areas where people want to live. And people want to live mainly where they can find a job. The answer therefore, and even more so now, is to tax employers based on where jobs are created i.e jobs in high land cost areas have lower corporate costs and vice versa. Easy peasy.

  • @thomaschristopher1513

    @thomaschristopher1513

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your point about social housing being a way of avoiding paying decent wages is really insightful

  • @asasderend
    @asasderend4 жыл бұрын

    Point one: this initiative is for those who need benefits. Point two: they elect who needs benefits.

  • @ShootingStar466
    @ShootingStar4664 жыл бұрын

    This could also be a result of increased homelessness in the UK. The Housing Act 1996 does not include any provision to bar people from homeless assistance because of income. A lot of working families who have been served with a valid Section 21 Notice end up getting an allocation from the housing register even though they could afford to rent privately, or even buy a house. I think due to instability in economy and jobs people are avoiding taking on buy a house or renting privately if they can. No matter, as with the government's proposal to have Local Hosuing Companies (local authorities owning a private housing management company) soon most tenants will rent from the Local Housing Company of their Council at 85% more of the price. Happy days all round!

  • @desbest4
    @desbest43 жыл бұрын

    We can't build much new houses because virtually all of the flatland in the city has been built on and we can't build in the countryside because of the green belt.

  • @user-db7dt1xu7k
    @user-db7dt1xu7k3 ай бұрын

    I hate benefits and social housing. No one should be forced into this.

  • @dog-ez2nu
    @dog-ez2nu5 жыл бұрын

    I would recommend drawing a line is what actually qualifies someone for social housing. I mean the problem with social housing is that as a location, you shouldn't have to force people out of homes because they earn too much or are earning a lot and saving to afford a private house. I'd recommend having the occupied housing lose its discounted rate depending (more liberally for me, personally) with savings and income situation taken into account. With the house then regaining its usual rate when there's a new tenant. I would approach it case by case honestly, no-one should have to be punished for actually making a reasonable living. What about giving the tenant a temporary discount on moving to private housing?

  • @guardian100
    @guardian100 Жыл бұрын

    One person, destroyed the social housing, and that was Margret Thatcher.

  • @nagoranerides3150
    @nagoranerides31503 жыл бұрын

    Social housing in the UK was devastated by Thatcher and has never recovered. It was the absolute textbook example of socialising risk and privatising profit. The Tories will always be the party of the landlord; everyone else is there to be fleeced.

  • @janetteedwards4866
    @janetteedwards486611 ай бұрын

    I don’t claim housing benefit, but could never afford to rent privately or buy. A lot of Tenants work, please don’t assume that residents are on benefits, or if working can afford to buy or rent privately!

  • @reubenyoung70
    @reubenyoung703 жыл бұрын

    The state of this video. The stigmatisation of social tenants here is awful.

  • @dratheart
    @dratheart5 жыл бұрын

    This is good information but goodness you really turn it into a maths quiz in parts of it! I'm overwhelmed by all the numbers; it would be easier to understand if you had interviews or clips of people who represent those math problems rather than just spew numbers at us.

  • @2081dwillis
    @2081dwillis Жыл бұрын

    If you really want to know how things got as bad as they are, I seriously recommend "The Welfare State We're in" by James Bartholomew. It's a real eye-opener regarding the history of Social Security, the NHS, the Education system, UK Housing system, UK Parenting habits and standards, the UK Pension system, and UK Taxation. If nothing else, this book will clue you in to the appalling rhetoric that politicians keep spouting time and time again because they think you're stupid and ignorant.

  • @vandalsavage2074
    @vandalsavage20744 жыл бұрын

    Is this the british projects?

  • @PsycInColour

    @PsycInColour

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @thornbird6768
    @thornbird67683 жыл бұрын

    Most tenants who are in employment but are in social housing are foreign mate and you well know it !! Middle class my ass with 16 grand in savings !! Do more research !!

  • @-3-5-7-
    @-3-5-7-5 жыл бұрын

    Social homes are 17% of the total housing market - the video is 17 min long niiice

  • @johnwatson4961
    @johnwatson49612 жыл бұрын

    i need social housing i am on universal credit ad want to move to sheltrerd accomodation,,,,im 63 and quite sick ,,can anyone help for real

  • @elgorrion52
    @elgorrion52 Жыл бұрын

    There just isn't enough social housing. Market rents are a rip-off

  • @dog-ez2nu
    @dog-ez2nu4 жыл бұрын

    I think the idea of expanding social housing beyond just the poorest should be the aim long term; but matching rates to income should be very important. Plus, I take the angle that there is an alternative to state and private housing; by allowing for more co-op and community trust housing that can be owned collectively by the people who rent in the first place. Also let's be real, the majority of these problems are caused by an INSANELY HIGH RENT housing market and the councils being caught in a social dilemma of protecting people from those super high rates or trying to bring more new people into social housing. Especially in the cities.

  • @MappingAmy

    @MappingAmy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Expand social housing beyond the poorest? To what aim? Some kind of imaginary equal structure? As if Bill Gates or the Queen would ever choose to live equally lol

  • @dog-ez2nu

    @dog-ez2nu

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MappingAmy I would like you to look at other countries where a lot of the middle class live in high quality council housing. Also, yes, creating a housing option not based on a housing 'market' would help a lot of people and encourage the development of less sprawly car dependent suburbs if done properly. And I never said anything about willingly Hehehehehehehe. Jk. Kinda.

  • @anniejones5204
    @anniejones52042 жыл бұрын

    I live In sh, my rent has gone up £58 a month, that's £690 extra a year!! I don't have any benefits as I work, it's a lot. I rang th e housing office and they said it was a 7% rise due to the government guidelines, its a lot a month.

  • @lynnleigha580
    @lynnleigha5802 жыл бұрын

    And I definitely don't understand why they can own a home and yet get a council house, wouldn't that be them purposely making themselves homeless and or above the income threshold

  • @Aminaplayyz
    @Aminaplayyz2 жыл бұрын

    Safer Housing for All. Help with disrepair. We believe a safe and well maintained home is a basic human right for every individual and family. Unfortunately, many Council Housing and Housing Associations are failing their tenants in maintaining their homes to an acceptable level. Common issues reported to us are; mould, damp, leaks, faulty boilers, rats infestation. Your landlord has a duty of care to fix these issues asap, without any cost to you. Most people do not know their rights regarding this and the process to speed up the repairs. If your health has been affected by the disrepairs, you are also entitled to compensation. We are a community organisation here to help those who have been let down by their Council or Housing Associations. If you have had any of these issues or know anybody who may need help and advise, please feel free to send us a message.

  • @MsK-xm7vw
    @MsK-xm7vw2 жыл бұрын

    In Canada, there is no such thing as council housing, little if any renter protections, and an abundance of slumlords. Affordable housing hasn't been built here in over thirty years while one Gov't level passes the buck to the next. Seniors, the disabled, families, and everyone in between are living 'hard' on the streets of Canada (yes, even in -30c winters) while numerous 'focus groups' earn money as high-paid 'Board Officials' studying the problem so they can repeatedly come up with recommendations to be ignored by Municipal, Provincial, and the Federal Govt...for over 30 years! Last year in Calgary, Alberta alone, there were 100,000+ seniors and disabled sleeping in homeless shelters, and dying in them. It has gotten so bad that many of the workers in these shelters are acting as Palliative Care Nurses while these seniors spend their final days among criminals, junkies, and abuse. Now that we, like Britain, are in a housing crisis, those numbers can be expected to triple before winter. Britain's Social Housing may be far from perfect; but, any Social Housing we have here is through severely abusive private management companies that treat both tenants and landlords beyond appallingly, while of course raking it in from the taxpayers. There are no hostels or hotels for those priced out of housing here; it's called a homeless shelter with criminals and junkies, or a cardboard box on the street with continual wake-up calls from the police telling them they can't sleep when they're homeless and to move on! Of course, those that can afford normal rents shouldn't be in Social Housing; but, at least you have social housing. You have a waiting list. You have homecare. Your Gov't. obviously needs to make some serious changes to the system that should be fought for; but, at least they're trying to help their citizens. Here, we're disposable refuse. They put you in hostels and hotels with heat and a roof over your heads, here, even if you can sleep in a shelter with the worst of the worst, you're kicked out at 6am and have to survive on the streets until you line up for a spot the next night. I think they allow them inside at -30c (but I could be wrong as I see them trying to huddle near any form of warmth on the streets). I also see a huge amount of abuse portrayed against the most vulnerable by the authorities here; whereas they seem to treat everyone at least like humans there. I know your Housing Program has problems; but, it's still superior to anywhere/everywhere else in the world, including 'not-so-nice' nice countries like Canada (our veil is dropping and the truth is finally showing). Fight for reform of a system in need of refining, but be extremely grateful you have it at all!

  • @kristinesharp6286
    @kristinesharp62862 жыл бұрын

    Most people in temp accommodation are there cause their private landlords took back their properties or elected to increase the rent. There are no floors in council and social housing. A lot of properties have lard yards to tend to and other large expenses and time and upkeep on them. Of course you should not lose it if your partner gets a job throwing your income higher. Social housing was meant to settle people. People settled can just go on living their lives and are better citizens. In 30 years time the home will more than be paid for. The gov controls who can build and where. Declare a certain number of quality social builds in exchange for the builds that are for the top end of the market. England is becoming South Korea where only one location matters much. That is a serious problem. Lots of housing cheaper outside London. Given work from home why can’t people live in Newcastle for a London tech firm? The country closed down a lot of industry in other parts of the country and didn’t replace it. The bedroom tax terrible. This is not Russia, your spare room is not another stranger’s apartment. The government can build 3 bd (2 double and 1 single) 2 story terraced homes with a parking space and tiny garden for a reasonable amount of money. They will collect enough from people for it. Or they can insulate older units in the market and refurbish them. It would seems just building 1-2 million units and terraced homes would do the trick.

  • @billijomaynard8924
    @billijomaynard89243 жыл бұрын

    No other minority group in the UK is discriminated against more then people on benefits. If a landlord refused to rent a property to someone based on their skin color, religious beliefs or sexual identity i suspect they would be criminally charged. But landlords are allowed with impunity to discriminate against those who are struggling and the disabled since people with serious disabilities are more likely to be on benefits through no fault of their own. If a tenant on benefits has a good record of paying their rent and bills and can afford what the landlord is asking i see absolutely no reason why landlords should be allowed to get away with this behavior.

  • @R.-.
    @R.-.5 жыл бұрын

    An interesting an well-researched video. One positive thing the government has done that you don't mention are measures to discourage buy-to-letters profiteering from people who can't afford their own homes. The housing benefit system really needs to become a graduated means-tested benefit. If all housing was private and benefits were paid to those most in need, there wouldn't be a pressure to move higher earners out of social housing, or an incentive for anyone to stay on housing benefit. To combat greedy developers, the government should favour non-profit housing associations to help keep rents affordable. Non-profits should have first pick of development land in locations where key workers are most in demand.

  • @stavdev7408

    @stavdev7408

    4 жыл бұрын

    It is means tested , the government doesn't give a shit where I live is now air bnb and students utter nightmare thanks to government

  • @michaeldonovan231
    @michaeldonovan2312 жыл бұрын

    I think the council's housing in big city is far worse than it is in towns because I live in a town I love my council house I have it looking really good and no problems just had a new bath and toilets suite and know waiting for a new kitchen which is great because the last one had was only put in about ten years ago

  • @clkhushus
    @clkhushus3 жыл бұрын

    There are many people abusing the system, like sub letting and living in somewhere else ( possibly in their other property ) how's that justifiable. the punishment on illegal sub letting is almost nothing and lots of people are doing it as a result peopel really waiting to be placed are getting nothing for long time. Authorities must change their methods to combat with illegal social housing problems. I have reported a case for more than a month to a council unfortunately nothing has been done so far, isn't that ridiculous ??

  • @ashtongrist
    @ashtongrist3 жыл бұрын

    whats the difference between social housing and scientology... this isn't a joke... scientology is voluntary

  • @alhassanmahmood9134
    @alhassanmahmood9134 Жыл бұрын

    There is too much population and not enough houses After ww2 the population keeps and keeps on rising

  • @girlgotstyle
    @girlgotstyle2 жыл бұрын

    Its rubbish in social housing! They won’t do repairs! Our roof fell in & we nearly died! Plus I’ve paid the original asking price three times over in rent, if it was a mortgage I would of paid it off by now! And I don’t know anyone who sub lets! I think you are seeing this from a middle class point of view & basically you are wrong! You have no idea! Sorry just being honest.

  • @buccleuch7621
    @buccleuch76214 жыл бұрын

    An interesting video. Thank you. But allow me one criticism and one observation. You claim that it is perfectly legal to own a second home while renting a social home. Some mistake surely? Which is why the Audit Commission estimates tenancy fraud at 5%in some areas - this is people subletting and living in either their own second home or with relatives/friends. There is a simple solution to the unaffordable rents in the private sector in London and the Home Counties, introduce an additional purchase tax (20-30%) on foreign property investors who are using the overheated housing market as a hedge against inflation (or worse). Property prices go down and rents with them. Time was mortgages were based on 2 or 3 times annual income. 2 or 3 times median average salary today in SE England would not buy pram shed! Perhaps we need to get away from the race to the bottom that social housing has become and recognise housing (shelter) as a basic human need, as ennunciated by Maslow. Just sayin

  • @JeckLV
    @JeckLV5 жыл бұрын

    A good video, but I find it a bit blamey on the current tenants. Social housing was not originally designed to be a safety net. It was seen as a way to build a better society. It's only with the gutting from Conservative and sadly neglect from other parties that it was re-invented as part of a safety net system. The blame entirely lies on the government for not building more and not for people choosing to stay in it, which you do say later in the video. It's tough times at the moment when stock is limited and waiting lists are crazy long but if you start pressuring people to move if or when their circumstances improve then it's setting bad precedent and will further the stigma that social housing is for poor people, and potentially uproot them from their current life. On both sides it's unfair and the solution is just mass social housing building. Again though, good video, and I'll be sharing this with my group. What future videos have you got lined up?

  • @showdonttell2859

    @showdonttell2859

    5 жыл бұрын

    "Social housing was not originally designed to be a safety net. It was seen as a way to build a better society. It's only with the gutting from Conservative and sadly neglect from other parties that it was re-invented as part of a safety net system." I never put much weight into “tradition” or “80 years ago we intended” arguments because it’s ultimately “the 2nd Amendment says, so we can’t question it”. When social housing was formed in the 1950s Britain was still recovering from the war and social housing was an element of a larger programme of slum clearances, I don’t believe changing its outcome to reflect the changing society and economy should be taboo and beyond debate. "It's tough times at the moment when stock is limited and waiting lists are crazy long but if you start pressuring people to move if or when their circumstances improve then it's setting bad precedent and will further the stigma that social housing is for poor people… the solution is just mass social housing building." Well forgive me for mocking this argument in the video but I find it offensive that you would refuse to allow poor people into social housing because “it’s too embarrassing”. I thought the graph of reletting rates was clear enough, but perhaps the significance wasn’t apparent: Even if we tripled social housing construction from 40,000 to 120,000 the net new available housing would still be short of where we were in 2014, because the re-letting rate of 4.1m existing social homes built over 70 years will always dwarf the amount of new construction. It seems many people draw a line between existing social housing (for the good un’s) and new social housing (for the bad un’s). I believe a social house is a social house, and all should be made available for the communal good. It’s entirely my mistake that I failed to highlight the suffering of people in hostels or temporary accommodation. I watched several such videos in order to make my own and believed that with the general awareness about foodbanks and poverty there would be common support for encouraging middle class social housing tenants to live on the private market so those in greatest poverty would have the opportunity and benefit of a decent home. You talk negatively about the Conservatives but I consider it makes no sense that people on “the left” should favour excluding impoverished families from social housing while favouring "the right sort" of residents who require no other assistance from the state. It seems a belief more naturally at home on the right?

  • @Just-Ignore-It_88
    @Just-Ignore-It_883 жыл бұрын

    The council wants to see people be poor and suffer rather them to see them live. That's how vile they are.

  • @deanbrandt2748
    @deanbrandt27483 жыл бұрын

    Social housing is a disgrace in England. I just want peace and quiet and a decent flat but that is to much to ask unfortunately. Great Britain my ass. 🤔 They don’t care about you if you are poor or are a vulnerable adult maybe. Disgusting. 😡

  • @kac1160
    @kac11604 жыл бұрын

    Well funded social housing actually works for the tenant. It also enables the less fortunate to participate in society in an equitable fashion. It is both well intentioned and economically sound. Social housing should never be sold.

  • @melokc7257
    @melokc7257 Жыл бұрын

    Why does the UK have all these council houses instead of people making their own way in life. It's disgusting to watch the UK citizens that grub to live this way. No self respect.

  • @anonymousanonymous870

    @anonymousanonymous870

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't know where you live, but people living in council houses some of them are working ,some of them don't claim benefit. Who know the future maybe you might end up like these people you are talking about or even worse

  • @marwoodrobinson673
    @marwoodrobinson673 Жыл бұрын

    Ha! Ha! Suckers! I have a two bedroom social housing property which I pay £500 a month in leafy North London and it’s a lifetime tenancy! I’m loving it all that money I’m saving on my £55,000 salary!

  • @SrimanArcharyaJBC
    @SrimanArcharyaJBC2 жыл бұрын

    Social placed permanent housed people renting from the Government are totally different from people that find private homes and claim housing benefits and are also different from private renters that do not receive benefits. 🤴🏽🕉🔺➕

  • @neonskyline1
    @neonskyline14 жыл бұрын

    If British people are forced to pay 80 quid for a passport, that should tell you what is going on there, not to mention paying the same road tax for a car somebody with the same car uses 100 times more than you

  • @ashtongrist
    @ashtongrist3 жыл бұрын

    you can't free up a home ITS MUSICAL FUCKING CHAIRS!!

  • @inyourgenes
    @inyourgenes2 жыл бұрын

    Too many people.

  • @ellismeah5127
    @ellismeah51273 жыл бұрын

    To many people in the country, ,nearly 70 million population, with more people arriving daily

  • @johnalver
    @johnalver2 жыл бұрын

    Well at least your social programs are diverse, look at the welfare state in the USA

  • @michaelstyczynski4833
    @michaelstyczynski48334 жыл бұрын

    Full time working families should be entitled to council, good quality homes, cos they pay for that through tax. But system here protect business and council housing is provide partially to keep control over society. people in need like those who are disabled, single mothers, pensioners ..etc. But this country is completely fu...ed

  • @Amelia-qg9po

    @Amelia-qg9po

    3 жыл бұрын

    They don’t, if you was the top business man and your wife had a top business job too, they’d still offer you the shit places because it’s the cheaper option to do

  • @amirbukhsh5628
    @amirbukhsh56283 жыл бұрын

    Brutish council help me please i have brutish documents pakistani government dont help documents i m pakistani U Request is Boris Johnson help me

  • @raymondwhitehouse9922
    @raymondwhitehouse99224 жыл бұрын

    Why do people who have social housing get discount on buying it when the taxpayer's pay there rent?

  • @sasablink

    @sasablink

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because this way you give the option to someone poor get ahead on creating wealth (hence change his/her family tree and espace poverty rather than multiplying it) and build on quality of life and less stress, while you can ask for more money than you actually make on rent. (rents are 50-60% percent the original price while selling price is 60-80% the market price) also tax payers pay for that to guarantee a unified baseline of living (quality and opportunity wise) that overall and overtime elevates the earning potential and progress of the society as a whole. Other countries have a less socialistic and humanitarian approach to that others have even more. Morally there is no doubt this policy is how things should be, i guess it's a matter of how it is managed and applied.

  • @malterwitty5433

    @malterwitty5433

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not all social housing tenants are on benefits, they work and pay rent

  • @susanelliott2287
    @susanelliott22874 жыл бұрын

    Please do not assume as this video obviously does that all people living in social housing and do not receive housing benefit are rich. My husband and I have always worked until we became disabled and therefore have a small private pension. However and this is the big revelation . After paying our rent as we Get £8 too much for benefit we are left with less than a person on benefit despite that we count as one of the rich taking up social housing, therefore do not believe all you hear on this loony lefty video. Finally I am not prepared to vacate my house ( not that I can afford to ) for someone too lazy to work who bums around all their life having loads of kids at the taxpayer like myself expense.

  • @michaelplank8966
    @michaelplank89663 жыл бұрын

    Its craxy nothing going to happen your all be on the streets they let to many people in why thats the question as enock powell said where are they all going to live so did i i feel sorry for all of you npwonder people drink so much theres no anser exept build tower blocks amd nigell farage says there still letting people in absolute madness

  • @amirbukhsh5628
    @amirbukhsh56283 жыл бұрын

    Amir jan please boris Johnson help me British government give me land i have brutish documents 1917 my Grandfather is Worker in British Grex Salt and Maripur Salts lessed document 1927my Grandfather name Noora Slo Peer Dad

  • @mike-xt7qi
    @mike-xt7qi3 жыл бұрын

    What a totally misleading video. Grow up!

  • @christopher9727
    @christopher97273 жыл бұрын

    Jesus is the hope John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

  • @girlgotstyle
    @girlgotstyle2 жыл бұрын

    Bull shit!

  • @AtticusBleep
    @AtticusBleep3 жыл бұрын

    The only reason for the housing and land shortage (and hence tiny houses being built) is mass immigration and rambling on for twelve minutes without hammering this home is disingenuous to say the least.