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@bfmcarparts

8 ай бұрын

The B-29 actually did operate during WW2 in Europe. This subject has been covered in one of KZread's Histoy Guy or Mark Felton sites. At one point, the USAAF sent 3-4 B-29s to the UK ( an early prototype and a few YB-29s) as a PROPAGANDA ploy to make the Germans THINK the B-29 was coming into the European theatre. They flew a few 'easy' missions and returned to the US. The B-29s did not return until the late 1940s/early 1950s when the RAF operated a squadron of B-29 'Washingtons'. The B-29 was/is a very complex aircraft to support. The UK bases struggled with Lancasters and Lincolns .There wasn't enough technicians to maitain the pressurization system, remote gun controls etc in two theatres As for unreliable powerplants, lets say the CAF were very proficient with operating a 3-engine B-29.until they upgraded to newer model powerplants about 10 years ago How did the German military behave to this B-29 threat? Just look squandered resources of design time ,bickering aircraft companies, models that did not 'do'.. The USAAF got thei money's worth with this propagand.

@williamzk9083

8 ай бұрын

- Excellent video. I'd just like to add that History of the German night fighter force, 1917-1945 by Aders, Gebhard mentions that the British also tried to mislead the Germans into thinking that they would be bombing from the stratosphere at night in order to misdirect German efforts. The night fighter that resulted from that was probably the Ju 388J1 with BMW 8101TJ-1, TJ-2 or TQ engines. Service ceiling about 44,000ft. There was also the Ju 88J3 with Jumo 222E/F (back on the production program) with a speed of over 430-444 (depending on radar) but at slightly lower service ceiling. The Ju 88G7 due to its two stage supercharged Jumo 213E engines also had capability. -In regard to the The Me 109 ground looping problem you mentioned. It was solved in early-mid 1944 when aircraft with extended tail yokes began to appear. In the 3 point sitting attitude of 13.5 degrees propeller circulation caused and p-factor caused one wing to stall ahead of the other causing ground looping. The extended yoke changed the angle to about 12 degrees. It appeared in retractoable form on the Me 109K4 but was common in Me 109G10, G14 and even G6 since it was interchangeable. -With the BV.155 service ceiling of 55,565ft the B-29A, B36A were all within the interception envelope. The B-29 operated its first missions in June 4 1944 so the only thing the Germans had in service at that time was the Me 109G6ASM and Me 109G14AS with increased size super chargers. These had the performance needed to intercept a B-29 but it was still hard. -The Ta 152H could intercept the B-29 easily but it was a Feb 1945 aircraft. Me 262 as well.

@mycosys

8 ай бұрын

dont sweat the haters, all engagement is good engagement as far as the algorithm is concerned.

@RJM1011

8 ай бұрын

I think your choice of words could have been better at the start of the video. Most people only watch the first 30 seconds and start bitching ! Watching the whole video it makes sense. Thank you.

@steveshoemaker6347

8 ай бұрын

EXCELLENT look at B-29 Killer.....Thanks from an very Old fighter pilot....Shoe

Blohm & Voss never fail to amaze me with their insane designs.

@gratefulguy4130

8 ай бұрын

Somebody was sabotaging the war effort.. there's no way they were serious.

@dallesamllhals9161

8 ай бұрын

..keep studying, kind...

@Charlesputnam-bn9zy

8 ай бұрын

But their seaplanes were amazing.

@benstark2065

8 ай бұрын

Factssss

@beyondrecall9446

8 ай бұрын

Whenever I see a B&V design, I just say "Yesss" and don't try to bother to ask.. Just kidding, love the designs

You've got to hand it to Blohm & Voss. Sometimes they thought outside the box, sometimes they couldn't even FIND the box.

@feathermerchant

7 ай бұрын

Blohm & Voss is apparently german for Stranger & Weirder.

@The_Curious_Cat

4 ай бұрын

And after finding the weirdest box possible, they say they need to redesign the box because the previous one doesn't work.

@jakobquick6875

4 ай бұрын

Typical..they built ships..so..like britains tanks designed by locomotive bolt and rivet heavy-handed engineers, u get crazy bat shit crazy, looney toon idea, most times, but what a child would imagine ideas😂blohm and Voss musta let the children play while the adults meth’d away considering their looney ideas near 44/45 trying to avoid the front, I wudda thought bat shit too😊

The graff spee was what was known as a pocket battle ship which was scuttled near Montevideo after being hunted down by the Royal navy and not an aircraft carrier, the graff zeppelin was the intended aircraft carrier which was partially completed when the project was scrapped , it later fell into Russian hands, towed out to sea and used for target practice.

@tombarilich4800

8 ай бұрын

That's what I was thinking too. Your comment beat me to it.

@jamesellis2784

8 ай бұрын

Bikini island . ….. a nice place too …

@SA-qm3bp

5 ай бұрын

Let’s not forget the cretinous pronunciation of “Spee”

@petersoerent2554

5 ай бұрын

Messing up one Graf (count) with another Graf.... 😅

@A.G.798

2 ай бұрын

Die Admiral Graf Spee, ein Panzerschiff hat sich auf Befehl ihres Kommandanten Kapitän zur See Hans Langsdorff selbst Versenkt.

It's forgotten as a B-29 killer because it didn't kill any B-29s. The Sopwith Camel is also forgotten as a B-29 killer.

@sirfrancis9619

5 күн бұрын

The camel was never designed as a B-29 killer...unlike the BV155

The Ta 152 was actually the high altitude fighter that was made for B-29 attacks.The plane had a service ceiling of 48,550 feet and was very manueverable at high altitudes. It was assigned to the Gruppe III of JG 301 although only approximately 35 were delivered due to destruction of storage sites. The P47 N and M versions were its contemporary allied aircraft, but had lower service ceilings.

@williamzk9083

8 ай бұрын

The Ta 152 H0 and H1 used the Jumo 213E1 engine and the Fw 190D12/13 used the Jumo 213F engine which was the same engine apart from the lack of inter-cooler and he need to use higher octane C3 fuel. the Jumo 213EB had intercooling and could be fitted to both the Ta 152H and Fw 190D12/13. With this engine the Fw 190D12/D13 EB was expected to achieved 488mph and the Ta 152H EB 472mph but without needing GM-1 nitrous oxide.

@laurencek.1580

7 ай бұрын

Not to mention the 152 had a 30 mm cannon with two 20 mm. The Smithsonian Air and Space museum has a Ta 152 on display.

@robertbruce1887

7 ай бұрын

The Ta 152 , with its high speed & high altitude capability could have been a serious contender against Allied planes, but as usual for the Luftwaffe at this stage of the war, came out too late & in too small a numbers.

@barfuss2007

5 ай бұрын

furthermore the Bf 109 H. 14.000 meters.

@manofchaitea6904

4 ай бұрын

@@laurencek.1580 its not on display now.

Blohm & Voss has been Germany's leading shipyard, not surprisingly also the birthplace of the "Bismarck". The yard still excels with great products; world's largest superyacht ("Eclipse") was built there. I worked with B+V as a Class Surveyor and I keep lots of nice memories.

@mikearakelian6368

2 ай бұрын

Still has armor plates in yard for Bismark

Having just recently come across your channel, I find myself absolutely spellbound by your content. Your attention to technical details and animation is just great. What sets you apart, in my view, is your attention to language. Whether it be pronunciation of names or radio-communication, you really put a lot of effort into it. If no one else appreciate it, I'll have you know, that I certainly do..! But, I'm sure I'm not the only one.. Thank you.

@aviationdeepdive

8 ай бұрын

That really means a lot, I appreciate that!

@user-tr2pz4nn6u

Ай бұрын

I agree with those compliments! Good pronunciation, clear speech, good tempo. Very easy to understand, even for a Swede like me. Interesting subject, too ! One comment: To the best of my knowledge, V in German is pronounced like F in English. 15:56 15:56

Bloom und Voss's weird and wonderful aircraft designs are fascinating . The BV 155 is such a sleek and beautiful design that still looks dangerous and imposing . Their WW2 jet prototypes were just as interesting

@BoopSnoot

2 ай бұрын

Technology aside though, can you imagine emotionally the burden put on German interceptor pilots? They knew they were massively outnumbered, but since those bombers were almost always going after civilian rather than military targets, every bomber that you let through is going to be dropping bombs on women and children down below. It must have been nerve wracking as there really was no way to "win" as even one bomber that makes it through is one too many. :(

@catsooey

4 күн бұрын

@@BoopSnoot I know, as far as nations go, there were no “good guys” in WW2. All sides participated in horrific and inhuman military campaigns and if the war had gone the other way, the Allies would have been charged as war criminals. I don’t want to think about what the world would have looked like had the Axis powers won, but there was more than enough blood on everybody’s hands to go around. Of course if Trump is able to jerrymander his way into office again (with the help of the sickest and most comically corrupt Supreme Court this country has ever seen - just recently they rolled back “protected” status on our nations wetlands, which are already endangered) with an electoral win/popular loss we may see what that world might have looked like. Only with him and Putin instead of Hitler and Mussolini.

The carrier was the Graf Zeppelin. Graf Spee was a Panzerschiff (CAish)

@dallesamllhals9161

8 ай бұрын

AHA! So JUST an amored boat Graf Spee was.... Naaah...do better - pølsetysker 😛 NB There was no carrier!

@Augenstreifschuss

8 ай бұрын

…right, Graf Zeppelin was not completed. Not sure what your comment regarding Graf Spee means.. Panzerschiff is the German designation for the class

@dallesamllhals9161

8 ай бұрын

@@pegamini7582 Why - Thank you :-) Was it: "Pølsetysker" you didn't get?

@EllieMaes-Grandad

8 ай бұрын

Makes you wonder what else the narrator got wrong . . .

@aviationdeepdive

8 ай бұрын

If you pay attention very carefully, when I mistakenly say Graf Spee an enormous text comes on screen saying *Graf Zeppelin.

This was a great video on a plane I did not even know existed. Hopefully some day you can do one on the Ta-152.

@aviationdeepdive

8 ай бұрын

Definitely, I'll pop the 152 on the list!

@dannynye1731

8 ай бұрын

The BV155 is in storage at the Smith Air and Space

Great video as always. Well researched. Looking forward to more videos.

@aviationdeepdive

8 ай бұрын

Thankyou!

Apart from two that briefly stopped in britain , the B29 was never in the European theatre and definitely never raided Berlin.

Another masterpiece! Great video. Congrats!

I don't think that B 29's were ever used in Europe but perhaps they might have been had the War dragged on?The ranges covered were far less than that needed to attack Japan since they only had to fly from England which is almost next door to Germany so I don't think that the USAAF would have committed B 29's when B 17's, Liberators, Lancaster's, Halifax's and Stirling's were more than adequate.

@ronaldtillberry3253

8 ай бұрын

You are right!! The B 29s were only used over Japan during the war. That's why I stopped watching at 0:26.

@aviationdeepdive

8 ай бұрын

Look at the pinned comment, or my response to other 10 comments say this. I never NEVER said that B-29s were used in Europe, only that the Germans THOUGHT they would be. Please actually watch the video before making such comments.@@ronaldtillberry3253

@stevekolarik2857

8 ай бұрын

Actually, there were four in England, showing the high commands. B-29 was technically going to replaced the B-17 but B-17 was showing better results in bombing missions. Interesting, while these B-29s at one air field, a German aero photo reconnaissance photo capture the B-29 by accident. Germany had no idea what they were looking but knew that B-29 where huge.

@aviationdeepdive

8 ай бұрын

The B-29s in England in 1944 were put there to make the Germans think they were about to be used in Europe. This was not the event that introduced the B-29 to the Germans, they had known about it since late 1942, as well as some rough performance estimates. Regardless, this information was important, and therefore many people in the Luftwaffe would not have been aware of it. The reconnaissance pilot who photographed them likely didn't know what they were.@@stevekolarik2857

@gwaithwyr

5 ай бұрын

I believe some B-29s were sent to Europe a couple of years after the war, maybe at the time of the Berlin blockade.

Nice work with the war-thunder filming! :3

Awesome German voice-over, really authentic!

@cosmoray9750

8 ай бұрын

Unfortunately the narrator has difficulty differentiate between the number Zero and the letter o. 1o9 or 109 ? Sounds like he has been watching one too many Hollywood movies.

Well done presentation about innovative aircraft. The Luftwaffe might also have considered that turbojets can attain and work in high altitudes.

A very interesting video with a lot of information. Warm greetings from Germany. Torsten

Yes B29s were sent to Europe, they were even painted OD green but it was only 4 and , I don’t think that they ever performed a combat mission.

@knoll9812

3 ай бұрын

Smoke and mirrors

Appreciate the content!

Great video

I did NOT Know of this! Good Job!

Regarding the simulator pictures: German airfields during WW2 did not have dedicated runways. they mostly where square field of gras so the taildraggers could take off from any direction against the prevailing winds.

@robertbruce1887

7 ай бұрын

I doubt if the airfields were any where near the width they are depicted in the simulator videos.

Super interesting! Well done

Great work on bringing us this video! B&V were certainly fantastic innovators if nothing else. This could have been a potent aircraft but for the tendency to over-engineer everything. Navalised Stukas and the Me-155 could have been a nightmare in some situations, where air power could have been projected practically anywhere. With hindsight we know that carriers were vulnerable though.

@EneTheGene

8 ай бұрын

A situation similiar to Bismarck may have occured, where the ship could have achieved some decent feat only to be destroyed by an overwhelming response.

@williamzk9083

8 ай бұрын

- I'd just like to add that History of the German night fighter force, 1917-1945 by Aders, Gebhard mentions that the British also tried to mislead the Germans into thinking that they would be bombing from the stratosphere at night in order to misdirect German efforts. The night fighter that resulted from that was probably the Ju 388J1 with BMW 8101TJ-1, TJ-2 or TQ engines. Service ceiling about 44,000ft. There was also the Ju 88J3 with Jumo 222E/F (back on the production program) with a speed of over 430-444 (depending on radar) but at slightly lower service ceiling. The Ju 88G7 due to its two stage supercharged Jumo 213E engines also had capability. -In regard to the The Me 109 ground looping problem you mentioned. It was solved in early-mid 1944 when aircraft with extended tail yokes began to appear. In the 3 point sitting attitude of 13.5 degrees propeller circulation caused and p-factor caused one wing to stall ahead of the other causing ground looping. The extended yoke changed the angle to about 12 degrees. It appeared in retractoable form on the Me 109K4 but was common in Me 109G10, G14 and even G6 since it was interchangeable. -With the BV.155 service ceiling of 55,565ft the B-29A, B36A were all within the interception envelope. The B-29 operated its first missions in June 4 1944 so the only thing the Germans had in service at that time was the Me 109G6ASM and Me 109G14AS with increased size super chargers. These had the performance needed to intercept a B-29 but it was still hard. -The Ta 152H could intercept the B-29 easily but it was a Feb 1945 aircraft. Me 262 as well.

The B17 was used in great numbers over Germany, but the B29 was only used against Japan. The Ju87 had a fixed and spatted undercarriage, totally unsuitable for a fighter.

One of the merriad of designs, many of which prototypes were cancelled even before construction. Goering also did not want the Kriegsmarine to get aircraft. The problem with the designs being updated so often was to slow production to implement the design changes.

That radiator looks like it inspired the intake of the X-32

Wow! Something from Blohm & Voss that doesn't look crazy or like the designer didn't overuse the drugs. Really unconventional design compared to others from B&V.

Thank you for sharing.

The amazing thing about Germany in WWII is the innovation and wonderful machines that were designed and built under the worst conditions. The war output of Germany was at its greatest at the end of the war, amazing.

Blohm and voss are my fav aircraft designers

Blohm&Voss made something symetric??????

A very excellent video and I have just subscribed!

@aviationdeepdive

8 ай бұрын

Thanks and welcome!

"we need a high altitude interceptor in service right now, here BV, produce this ready-made design" BV: "ok, Messerschmitt is dumb so we're going to start development on an entirely new airframe" "...what"

You make entertaining videos with nice production. You would benefit greatly from citations to back up things that sound sensational, like the potential threat of b29s over europe, and the accurate use of established technical terminology. I look forward to your future videos.

@aviationdeepdive

8 ай бұрын

Ok, we really need to clear things up. The US never planned to use B-29s over Europe, and I never said as such. People are misinterpreting the video, what I said is that the Germans THOUGHT that it was to be used over Europe, hence why they felt the need to urgently develop a modern interceptor. I do have citations, in the description, which back up this point. The reason the 155 was developed was because the Luftwaffe thought the B-29 was going to be used to bomb Germany. In terms of saying a turbocharger was mechanically drive, this was a mistake on my part. Thanks for the comment and support.

@mbryson2899

8 ай бұрын

​@@aviationdeepdiveYou are likely to find wartime and just-post wartime sources using the term "supercharger" in reference to both exhaust driven and mechanically driven units. Throw in translation errors or preferences and you can only get so accurate. Thank you for sharing your video, I found it to be clear and informative.

@aviationdeepdive

8 ай бұрын

Thankyou, I appreciate that @@mbryson2899

@Mishn0

7 ай бұрын

@@aviationdeepdive The US actually sent a B-29 to England with the express purpose of scaring the Germans into thinking it was going to be used in Europe in the hope that they'd waste money and precious development hours working on a defense against that. This occurred on March 11, 1944 at Glatton.

He 100 and He112 were rare fighters.

Die B&V 155 , sieht wie eine modifizierte Version der Stuka Ju 87 aus,nur ohne Knickflügel und einziebaren Fahrwerk !

Now this plane goes hard.

@JM-nm3bg

8 ай бұрын

Har, har, har, that’s a snorter but it’s plane to see hart was in the right place. 😂

Service Ceiling of a B-29 31,850 ft Service Ceiling of me262 38,000 ft. I know what b-29 killer I would rather have been in

@jenniferkelly6931

8 ай бұрын

Good data.

@onenote6619

25 күн бұрын

Yeah, but the Me262 engines generally fell apart somewhere between 10 and 50 hours from being built. If you throttled them hard, that number dropped drastically. And 'fell apart' sometimes got rather explosive.

Mate the GRAF SPEE was a pocket battleship, the GRAF ZEPPELIN was a never finished aircraft carrier 1938

The Aircraftcarrier was named GRAF ZEPPELIN not GRAF SPEE. The GRAF SPEE is in the area of the port of Montevideo sunk by her own Crew.

@rayslockish5047

8 ай бұрын

Perhaps all u ppl talkn about details shud start ur own site m spew correct details every time u post an article

@stefanrath664

4 ай бұрын

Und war ein Schlachtschiff.

@volkergluth3428

4 ай бұрын

Panzerkreuzer oder schwerer Kreuzer@@stefanrath664

@justaplayer94

2 ай бұрын

@@stefanrath664 Panzerschiff.

0:31 Turbochargers are not mechanically driven. Superchargers are. Turbochargers are exhaust-gas driven. Turbo-superchargers are a compound system with both a mechanical supercharger element and an exhaust turbocharger element.

@aviationdeepdive

8 ай бұрын

Sorry for the mistake, thanks for the clarification.

Damn that’s one very forgotten warbird.

@tauncfester3022

8 ай бұрын

You know that's not a "warbird" It's a joke, it never saw any operational service, It wouldn't even exist in War Thnuder if it wasn't for Ito Kazunori's series of Luft '46 models in MSFS2004. These oddities, which like most of these one off's, static models and paper designs, will only fly in hyperbole sims.

Excellent.

Me-155 insert just gave a essence to this documentary movie.

Only a couple B29's were sent to the European Theater for evaluation and to confuse the Germans. They were then withdrawn.

Perfectly timed Discord notification 13:29

@aviationdeepdive

8 ай бұрын

No idea how that one got past me... 😆

This is the most normal looking B+V plane I've ever seen.

I think the carrier was the Graf Zeppelin; Graf Spee was a pocket battleship that was scuttled off Argentina.

There was one B-29 raid on Germany that landed in Russia, with the intent to refuel and continue to the CBI theatre to fight against Japan. The Russians, however, were so impressed with the aircraft that they were impounded and copied, rivet for rivet, to produce the TU-4 'Bull'!

@robmclaughjr

2 ай бұрын

That B-29 was bombing Japan and landed on Sakhalen island USSR

If it’s mechanically driven, then isn’t it a supercharger? These distinctions have always bothered me.

@aviationdeepdive

8 ай бұрын

Yes you're right, silly technical error on my part.

@allangibson8494

8 ай бұрын

Unless you’re Napier - who coupled the turbocharger turbine to the crankshaft to extract more power to drive the propeller…

@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus

8 ай бұрын

​@@allangibson8494 Wright did that as well on the R-3350. It was called a Power Recovery Turbine.

@allangibson8494

8 ай бұрын

@@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus The Napier Nomad didn’t have a gear between the compressor and the power turbine (it was basically a single shaft axial flow turboprop engine with the combustor replaced with a piston engine) but the concept was similar.

@martinricardo4503

8 ай бұрын

Supercharging is simply the effect of increasing airflow to the engine to boost performance at altitude. A supercharger can be mechanically driven or by a turbo or any combination thereof.

Did anyone ever think to mention to Blohm and Voss that there was a war on?

Similar thinking going on in Britain to counter German HAA bombers. Westland Welkin as one example. Interestingly, the B & V company was merged with M to become MBB.

Fascinating

Wonderful video! I'm a bit biased of course ;-) The Messerschmitt design proposals that were precursors to the BV 155 I saw for the first time here, very interesting. My favourite though is the BV 155 C with that terrific shark mouth!

@aviationdeepdive

8 ай бұрын

Thank you very much, your voice lines add a lot to the video! I agree, the 155C is quite interesting - some people online have actually made models of it which you can find, I think it looks quite cool - albeit very unusual. But of course being a 155 it'd be remiss if it didn't :)

That's it .... I knew there was something wrong with this Blohm & Voss plane. It has a symmetrical design.

13:29 discord notification is on the BV155 is a standard feature

B-29's were used in the Pacific against the Japanese.

New subscriber! Like what you're doing here and looking forward to catching up. What flight Sim are you using?

@aviationdeepdive

8 ай бұрын

Thanks! I have used War Thunder so far, but will also use IL2

The Bf 109 H and the Ta 152 would have also been able to climb at B 29 altitudes

@rorycraft5453

5 ай бұрын

That is what I was also thinking.

A beautifull aircraft. However the ME 262 was already flying in 1941. With 4 30mm cannons she was lethal against any allied bomber. Developing that further for higher altitudes would have been a more logical solution.

the german ac was called graf zeppelin graf spee sank at the river plate

Rare and very interesting.

Vogt had such a beautiful mind

How did work on the Me-155 affect or was affected by the work on the Bf-109H? Why would Messerschmidt work on two high altitude versions of the 109? Good video, by the way.

all those 30mm cannons would have been a bomber killer for sure.

@BerndFelsche

8 ай бұрын

Muzzle velocity too low. Had to get very close and risk fire from the bombers. Less of a problem for the Me262 which'd whoosh past, but with just a few seconds to aim and fire. Me262 had many shortcomings... lack of speed brakes understandably unforeseen until first combats. And the engines were immature, not really reliable (actually dangerous) until the Jumo004B. But the 155 was a waste of engineering effort. Not just because the B29 wasn't a thing for Europe. Turbojets would outpace, not just in speed but also in terms of manufacture, being far less complex... and not demanding such high quality fuels.

One wonders why Messerschmitt didn't employ the improved undercarriage design that they had done for the aircraft carrier aircraft? Might have prevented a lot of landing and take-off accidents due to the narrow undercarriage of the me 109...

From looking at the data I don’t think it would have had the climb rate and speed to intercept b-29s unless it left from an airfield in front of the route of b-29s. The BV-155 had engine overheating issues on sustained MCP setting. Such an interesting aircraft though.

Excellent commentary. I love this aircraft. Wish the Smithsonian would do a restoration/ rebuild.

@JasonMcCord-qk3yb

8 ай бұрын

At least a cosmetic rebuild. It’ll never be safe to fly ever again, but a 1 of 1 , 80 year old prototype really shouldn’t be flown anyway…

@masterofreality.o0o.535

8 ай бұрын

Absolutely, just want to see it in all its glory, not tucked away gathering dust!!! Rather like the Ta152....Another absolute favourite. Just do the cosmetic and show it's grace and elegance. I'm sure some people would say no to a rebuild but what purpose do they serve rotting away unseen?

@masterofreality.o0o.535

8 ай бұрын

I'd really rather not!!!!

Since the international convention for commercial aircraft today is FEET, please state distances in meters as well as feet. You can't otherwise convert .

Looks a right dog's dinner, can't see why the Me 262 couldn't do the same job better.

By this time, the Germans already possesed the Me 262. To able to down the B-29 easily, it required rockets or 30mm cannon.

Not sure what was bizarre about this design. Amazed thT b&v got this in the air a year after getting contract. Appears to me that they were an underused resource.

Brings to mind the Pershing, M-46, M-47, M-48 tank debacle.

@TheSaturnV

5 ай бұрын

Patton-Patton-Patton 🤪

@stevetwede9901

5 ай бұрын

The Pershing is the Pershing@@TheSaturnV

@stevetwede9901

4 ай бұрын

@@TheSaturnV Pershing Pershing Pershing !

I thought Admiral Graf Spee was a pocket battleship and the planned aircraft carrier was Graf Zeppelin

@aviationdeepdive

8 ай бұрын

It is, hence the huge letters *Graf Zeppelin on screen when I mistakenly said Graf Spee

It's the "forgotten B-29 killer" because it didn't kill any B-29s.

@steveperreira5850

18 күн бұрын

I wish the video producers would be somewhat honest and more careful with the production of their videos

Didn’t matter what they made at that point All their experienced pilots were dead or captured

Um…the B29 never saw the sky’s above Germany in WW2,

Yes, rather insane with the Me(Bf) 262 becoming operational.

@420JackG

8 ай бұрын

Me 262 ain't fighting at 16,000 meters.

@weirdshibainu

8 ай бұрын

The 262 was brilliant but suffered from a lot of issues and would have been difficult to scale, particularly late in the war.

@RockinRedRover

6 ай бұрын

"rather insane" sums up the whole German approach to the war - makes you wonder how people renowned for good organisation etc got so screwed - but hang-on, Hitler was "in charge"... oops

B-29s were used only in the Pacific war due to the great flying distances needed to bomb Japan. In Europe this distances were much the B=17 and B=24 Liberator were used In addition the B-29 dod not come out for Nass production until late 1943.

But I thought we only briefly sent a few B-29s to Europe and that they didn't see combat there.

Discord notification when the BV-155 lands.

The Graf Spee was at the bottom of the River Plate when all this was going on

What about the Ta 152?

8:47 wow, what's all those 190s doing in that warehouse? We're they taking parts from them to service their remaining fleet?

Aircraft carrier was called Graff Zepplin.

I wish the war had carried on a few years more. Imagine the weapons we could be watching on YT: Panzer XI, Messerschmitt ME 910 4 engine America bomber, V8. It is a shame, I feel.

@aviationdeepdive

Ай бұрын

Seems quite a bizarre take to 'wish' the war had continued, it would have resulted in the death and suffering of millions more people.

@MrNaKillshots

Ай бұрын

@@aviationdeepdive Get back to me when you find your sense of humour.

How much faster would it have been with swept back wings?

I see you use warthunder to its max potential ;)

What did those radiators under the wings?

This is what happens when bureaucrats try to tell engineers what to do.

Oh look, it's yet again one of those "have to head back to" or "get back to the beginning" kind of videos.

@aviationdeepdive

2 ай бұрын

You're right, instead of actually understanding the politics or situation of what created this aircraft, it should be a 30 second clip saying "They flew it a few times and it failed"

The only circumstance where B29’s would have been assigned to the European Theater of Operations from bases in Iceland. This was only possible if British bases were unsuitable due to enemy attacks. This didn’t happen.

@k75romeofive

8 ай бұрын

I cannot document this, but Some where I saw or read the the US intentionally sent at least one B29 to England to get the Germans to spent time ,effort, money, material on just such a fighter as is discussed here.

@aviationdeepdive

8 ай бұрын

I have lost count of the comments that have made this point so I'm copy and pasting this response to all of them: I never said the B-29 was used over Europe, I said the Germans THOUGHT that it would be used over Europe, and it was developed to counter the B-29 bombing raids that they THOUGHT were coming. 4:34 , 11:57

Extreme Design to Overcome Extreme Design 😅

I've seen Software Projects like that, feature creep and engineers losing sight of the objective, rather than delivering realistic completed work, when importantly, it is needed most!

Why did the program continue after it was apparent that the B-29 threat wasn't real? Because if they weren't working on an active program a transfer to the Eastern Front was looming.

Small slip, the carrier was intended to be named 'Graf Zeppelin', not 'Graf Spee', sry ...

They got reports about the B-29? You mean four B-29 were accidentally captured on a photo reconnaissance in Britain air based. They had no idea what they were looking at. As soon as they figure out the size, they start looking into more what they might see flying over Germany.

@aviationdeepdive

8 ай бұрын

The B-29s sent to Europe in March 1944 were meant to trick the Germans that they were about to be employed. This was NOT the event that caused the Germans to be aware of the B-29s existence. They had known the B-29 existed since late 1942, and had some rough performance estimates about it that scared them enough to prompt development of the interceptor. It's important to remember the Luftwaffe knew about the B-29 when they saw it in 1944, the purpose of that stunt was to make them think they were about to be used.