If you enjoy this video, don't forget to purchase Witch on the Holy Night. Doing so will encourage Aniplex and Type Moon to release more of their content in English!

@meinsternes4148

Жыл бұрын

Done 👍🏼

@lordphinix3

Жыл бұрын

Done launch day.

@zero72knight

Жыл бұрын

Ok I’m about to get into fate so which one should I watch first OtakuDaiKun have any idea

@lordphinix3

Жыл бұрын

@@zero72knight Zero

@ShinJack_

Жыл бұрын

@@zero72knight not watch, but read

"What happens when two mage sisters take their rivalry too far." Brother, this is the Nasuverse. There's no such thing as 'too far.'

@ZeroRequiemDX

Жыл бұрын

(Looks at the Lostbelts, especially at 7's ORT partial awakening) Me: You know what, I absolutely agree with you ☺️

Imagine if Touko was the one who inherited the 5th magic. would there be anyone able to stop her at that point? She's already basically immortal so giving her god level magic on top of that would be so much worse. At that point I think she would give Zelretch a run for his money.

@aidenharris5296

6 ай бұрын

Adding on to that if she still does the captive mages thing she could take away mages bad memories in exchange for personal experience she would be crazy

How many more years do we have to wait before these characters get referenced or dropped into FGO. We’ll still waiting for Shiki Tohno to get into FGO

@Hyperslayer_X

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, it’s clear that the only way a human or mage can be implemented into FGO as a playable character is to make them pseudo servants. In the case of Aoko or Shiki Tohno, I would at least hope that they are implemented similarly to Shiki Ryougi, Prisma Ilya, Kuro, and Miyu. Basically just make them servant incarnations of themselves rather than have them be vessels for deities.

@Asura_ig

Жыл бұрын

I’ve been waiting for someone else to say this

@tonyinfinite5174

Жыл бұрын

@@Hyperslayer_X Aoko is famous enough to be in the throne of heroes she's the successor of fifth magic even the country bumpkin Arc herself knows her The real issue is that Aoko herself is alive

@madambutterfly1997

Жыл бұрын

@Tony Infinite and she's not on the same level of Selflessness like Emiya

@KhangNguyen-qn4bh

Жыл бұрын

@@tonyinfinite5174 did you forget the throne of heroes exist out of time…

Yep, my favourite VN of all time. Specifically, the fights are the best, the soundtrack the CG everything! + we are getting an anime adapation as well. Sojirou is literally the reason Aoko survived her sister that boy is precious

Personally, I feel like having that picture of her in a bunny suit would be more like blackmailing

Glad I gave this one a shot. I think the VN format is a huge strength as it fits with scenarios like uncomfortable silence and surreal fights.

I kinda want to see this animated now. A no holds barred duel between the Aozaki Sisters on screen in full HD? Beautiful.

@WildArtistsl

Жыл бұрын

We are getting an adaption soon after fake strange

@yaboigamerdouji7573

Жыл бұрын

@@WildArtistsl And I am now happier for this wonderful news

@aidenharris5296

7 ай бұрын

It’s going to happen just wait your prayer we’re answers just a little bit later

Why do I get the feeling Merlin is involved in witch on the holy night like he created the whole event to watch it for his amusement while eating popcorn.

Going have to save this for another time buying this game next week great work dai keep up the good work

Haven't watched this vid yet already know this will be good, been waiting for this

I hope we can see more about Aoko in one of the next arcs for Tsukihime Remake, there's a lot of mistery about what she has done since Mahoyo, mostly in those years after meeting Shiki for the first time until he meets Arcueid.

Awesome video man. It looks like a great visual novel 😃

Very nice long and educational video otakudaikun 😌

One correction about Yumina, she had obtained the First Magic at the turn from BC to AD

nice video, the aoko and touko sisters always had such a big impact on most of the nasu-verse so it's pretty cool knowing more about them.

At last this video is out, finally people can see this beautiful story, truly a masterpiece

I’m waiting for the physical version to come out at the end of January. I’m not gonna watch the whole thing now, but just here to support Dai. I’ll come back after I finish the VN.

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

That's totally fine. Apparently the physical release just got postponed till early February.

It was a great lore video and I didn't knew it had an "gag epilogue" that was so crazy,it gives me a stronger urge to earn enough money to buy the visual novel.

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

Yes, playing it yourself is the real deal.

Cant wait for this series!

1:01:41 Touma Kamijou:First time?

What a great VN. The characters, animation and music were really top notch. What really stood out for me was that it managed to tell a pretty small scale story compared to other Nasu works, which I think made the story easier to follow and gave the characters more time to just chill and show the different facets of their personalities.

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

Well, it feels small scale (since it is presented as just a pair of mages quarreling over land ownership) but when you dig in you realize it is actually a huge deal (it’s a fight over True Magic after all) and presents new concepts. Nasu just managed to tell a very high stakes story while making it feel like a small stakes one.

I love this!!😊

If Aoko and Alice were around during Tsukihime how would it go?

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

Aoko would cause chaos like in Melty Blood.

Sojirou hitting Beo with that two-piece combo was my favorite moment my jaw was wide open seeing that happen it was one of the coolest things I have ever seen and I hope that when it's eventually animated it gets the justice it deserves

15:06 - Can anyone make their circuits spin? 20:04 - Kirei's predecessor as the villain posing as a servant of God. 21:00 - I wonder if Ritsuka Fujimaru was named after her. 22:22 - Since Dolls are Mystic Codes & Shirou specializes in building things, could Shirou Emiya benefit from training under her?

@armandomendoza7371

Жыл бұрын

No ide to the first, second is most likely although we don't know if he will end up being a villain, third is probably a coincidence but i who knows, last one is no why would he, dolls and tracing are completely different to the point there is no actual comparison between them

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

No, not everyone's circuits can spin. Its possible Shirou could learn a lot from Touko, or even help her quite a bit. He's kinda into swords more though lol

@insanemakaioshin

Жыл бұрын

@@otakudaikun True, but his heritage as a Muramasa & his habit of repairing broken devices makes him perfect for creating Mystic Codes, like Puppets.

Can't wait for the movie......

Wow I actually saw more of this story than I thought when the non official stuff was translated. I got up to right before touko was formally introduced but knew the stuff after the epilogue somewhat Yeah I love this story a lot and wish it was an anime instead but my guess is that's going to be reserved for tsukuhime as like ubw it's an introduction to an entire franchise and mahoyo is not as big to both knk and tsukuhime. Surprised you didn't bring up the way aoko acts around people which like Rin makes senses to how they treat shirou and sojurou and normal people being magus and it made me like the story more as it's basically a good way to show even while close magus have to put up barriers between them and humans. Hopefully like Nero chaos we can see these characters in part 3 of fgo if they go different universe way instead of timeline what ifs Instead. I'd love a whole alice aoko sequel storyline. Also don't know why but i always enjoy the arc/illya pose takeuchi and nasu seemingly love on most characters

I wonder, which would win in a confrontation between Aoko bearing the full power of the Fifth Magic vs Goetia wielding the full force of Ars Almadel Salomonis, since they both operate under the pretense of manipulating/altering time via extreme heat values.

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

It would be a confusing battle for sure.

For reals, Touko is sick AF...

@adraxer1365

Жыл бұрын

That woman HAVE THE CURVES here, i remember her from Kara no Kyoukai before, and i didn't recognize her as the same person lol 👀

@7empest884

Жыл бұрын

@@adraxer1365 NOT what I meant, but I won't argue with that...

@acceleratorjokerdarkness238

3 ай бұрын

@@adraxer1365they’re the same woman. She is a puppet master who is scary as fuck with how hard it is to tell the difference between the Touko and her puppets. So they could have been puppets of her.

@adraxer1365

3 ай бұрын

@@acceleratorjokerdarkness238 XD imagine Touko going like: IT'S PERFECT! exactly EQUAL to the Original... But... IT CAN BE BETTER! Just slap two huge bonkers to the doll. 😆

@acceleratorjokerdarkness238

3 ай бұрын

@@adraxer1365 I just spat out my soup XD

I put off watching this until i finished reading it for myself. Took me over a year to get around to it, but you're my first stop afterward. Loved the story, Aoko might have reached Waifu level, and now i suddenly have opinions about when they add her to FGO.

I desperately need this game.

I'm kinda biased for Touko because I feel like she deserves the Win due to all that impressive grit, preparation and determination to become one of the top mages in the world. But of course, because she is Not the protagonist the story automatically flips a misfortunate loss on her. What I am more curious about is how do the Aozaki sister finally resolve their tension in the near-future since the Extra-verse timelines spoilt a possibility of them somewhat getting along. Soujuro is one of the most bizarre existences of all, so being out of touch from modern society makes anyone capable of harming a nigh-invulnerable wolf spirit?

@markgilberk6248

Жыл бұрын

well in clocl tower 2015 it does seems those two buried the hatchet

I played this game like few months back. One of the best VN from type-moon. Also, Aoko best girl indeed. - Started this game on january 2023. - Finished the story on march-april 2023 but didn't finished the epilogue due to FGO NA/JP colab shenanigans. - Finally finished the epilogue (bad ending then good ending), while waiting for LB 6 part 3 on NA on july.

Ma year in combat is a year of life long bonding.

I genuinely appreciate that Nasu gave Aoko magic bullets instead of Gandr shots like Rin.

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

I mean, her specialty is super charged magical beams. Rin’s specialty is jewel magecraft and Druid curses (the last only because her family stole it from the Edelfelt family). Though Rin’s Gandr are closer to the more lethal version.

@eclipsewaves

Жыл бұрын

Gandr Shots and magical devices and weapons has always been the Tohsaka family's specialty. Even more when the ancestors from Tohsakas have VERY close relationship with the wielder of Second Magic, Zelretch. Hence why Rin can project the Zelretch Sword at the end of Heaven's Feel because Zelretch left a blueprint of the same exact weapon.

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

@@eclipsewaves They are not Rune magecraft users, they stole that technique. It is an Edelfelt specialty that the Tohsaka added to their arsenal after the third war. If the Tohsaka knew actual rune magecraft they would have more than the Gandr curse.

Good lord, I'm messed up, I almost read that one as The Lore of "A Witch On Night Of Revenge".

I enjoyed this story a ton. It was a nice world to build up on and a semi prequel to both knk and tsukuhime but honestly I enjoyed it as much as knk. I really hope the movie is split into parts as ufotable will need the time as even hf had to cut so many corners despite being in 3.

@caster269

Жыл бұрын

In regard to Heaven's Feel, they actually said they explicitly chose to do it as a cinematic production, rather than a fleshed out story, in order to go all in on budget for every iconic fight and moment. UBW and Zero were meant an introduction for those new to the Fate series, but the HF movies were done as a love letter to fans of the VN.

@ivanbluecool

Жыл бұрын

@@caster269 ubw was both a love letter to the fans and good introduction at the same time I mean only real fans would have appreciated the epilogue as it's basically canon material to ha and a good connection to zero anime as those two got so much work done. Even the ova material is done well with sunny days and the grail Kun explained with taiga Hf is just lacking in substance being more set pieces and forcing Sakura on screen when it contradicts the entire point of how the story went so I'm worried on how mahoyo is going to go by that logic being a movie.

@ShinJack_

Жыл бұрын

Just some trivia, Mahoyo can't happened in knk timeline... Why? Because according to knk timeline, aoko was younger in the knk timeline for some reason...

@ivanbluecool

Жыл бұрын

@@ShinJack_ honestly I just chalk it up to being like zero where it's a "past" that is sorta what happens as nasu isn't good at being consistent. I mean zero and fsn wouldn't connect with a lot of little things like what is said Kerry did vs what actually happened same with the fsn vn to El melloi due to medeas master not being the blonde guy in the ubw anime yet he is in El melloi

@ShinJack_

Жыл бұрын

@@ivanbluecool found the source > Nasu: Other than that... oh, right, there's Aoko's age. If Rakkyo and Tsukihime were the same world then Aoko would only be a little bit older than Tohno Shiki. The Aoko in Rakkyo has not yet gained the title of "Miss Blue", and is still training in Misaki Town. From the KnK movie pamphlet Q&A.

Snowy winter nights remind me of a peculiar person who is also connected to The Root

Omg omg omg omg omg omg omg it’s happening. He’s doing it. He’s doing it.

Soujuro, could no- MIGHT be the first user of the legendary skill that is Harem Protagonist EX, well Harem Protagonist A+ at least. I mean to pull both Alice and Aoko is just too godly.

@justasoulsfan9805

Жыл бұрын

Except he didn't pull them at all.

@alzingafagan7501

Жыл бұрын

@@justasoulsfan9805 true. I guess he restricted it so that he would survive getting killed by them and have them gain tolerance for his existence.

@personagrand5674

Жыл бұрын

It was probably EX+ but the Root thought he had too much power, thus restricted it to like a C or something

@eclipsewaves

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't much a harem or so. He's not even a main protagonist; he's a secondary protagonist. Aoko take that place as well as Touko. Soujuro is just merely a human plot device so the story between Aoko and Touko could continue on.

Ok, if i ever want to play a VN, is have to be like this, just the last bit at the end amuse me to no end XD Btw, what was the deal whit the child drawing bits? a litter context of that So this was the prolog before all ...man she a badass ..wait so only she can make thos glass give to the MC in Tsukifime ?

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

Alice has a set of short segments talking about her ploys in the VN. They're meant to be all cutesy like that.

23:49 She's almost a servant herself with all those traits. If she ever got to the Throne of Heroes, she would be a total menace to deal with!

@PotterManiac344

3 ай бұрын

This comment aged like fine wine.

FINALLY!!!!!!!

Finally my best girl Aoko getting the spoylight after so long Again i hope it gets enough success for a TsukiRe translation and sequels, so that TM knows we care bout VN, coz im waiting for Mahoyo 2 and 3 way more than whatever's happening on FGO

I bought this game on ps4 the day it came out!😊

Wish we had a anime or manga.

Just finished it and I loved every bit of it; which was why I waited to watch this video. Awesome recap btw! I was first introduced to Touko in Kara No Kyoukai so it was a bit new to me to see her as the villain in this Visual Novel; still one of my favorite characters of all time though. Does this story take place in the same continuity as Kara No Kyoukai or is it another universe?

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

We… are still unsure. Nasu claims that the events of Mahoyo are a blueprint to the basis of the rest of the works. But the events are slightly different in all timelines. For example, the year does not fit with the Tsukihime world any longer, and it never fit KnK.

@abarr2951

Жыл бұрын

I see; thank you for answering

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

@@abarr2951 Might I add he has renewed his mention of wanting to write the Mahotsukai sequel, so we may get a better grasp of how it fits then (Nasu likes releasing side material that clears up things like that).

If I have to pick two favorite moments it would be the following: - Soujirou taking of his shirt… I mean come on! He’s ripped af, I always wondered before why he’s so bloody sexy. But now with his past revealed, it makes sense. (My BL Horny levels are rising.) - Alice’s deployment of “Flat Snark, Oil of the Moon”: not only was it a marvel to look at, but how the reality marble create an endless amount of mystery which also transform structures into animate units for combat.

@twistedsword8612

Жыл бұрын

Nah fr, Soujuurou was beyond jacked, had Aoko, Alice, and myself staring. And the fight in the amusement park was also my favorite (I have a heavy Alice bias so seeing her fight and creating the whimsical world with Flat Snark was gorgeous)

@tonyinfinite5174

Жыл бұрын

Yep him and his clanbro Kuzuki are sexy as hell oh newsflash him Souichirou from Fate are canonical as relative's as in come from the same village as they're fighting styles are exactly the same actually

@armandomendoza7371

Жыл бұрын

Mine is Aoko and Soujuurou's convo in chapter 11, Aoko showing her confidence despite her current state and everything she and Alice had againts them was incredible but the best part was, without a doubt, Soujuurou, his response it's what makes him my favorite protagonist "I know you just said something beautiful, but i don't understand" pure peak

How exactly do you play the chapter 🤔 with the characters visiting Alice house

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

It's in the archive after completing the main story. There's actually a lot of content that can only be accessed from the archive.

Wait so aoko is literally old enough to be my mom that's kinda wild wasn't expecting that

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

She's probably around 27 by the time of Tsukihime and Melty.

@MentalOutlvl6

Жыл бұрын

@@otakudaikun when Tsukihime came out I was literally a toddler 😩

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

@@MentalOutlvl6 I was 11.

@armandomendoza7371

Жыл бұрын

@@otakudaikun If it's original Tsukihime the yes, but in Remake she is like 42

@MentalOutlvl6

Жыл бұрын

@@otakudaikun I was 5 when lunar legend Tsukihime came out in JPN

Nice

53:41 She's the legendary super saiyan

Can we have the next fate grand order lore and probably if we ever get to see the new beast threat which is beast 4 or beast 6

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

I cover FGO lore as it releases in NA.

52:12 oh shit!

So basically me and my brother if we had magic

I'm kinda curious how Alice would interact with the servent Nursery Rhyme

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

They would probably get along.

@SadBoy-pe5oq

Жыл бұрын

@@otakudaikun oh I know that for sure but I'm kinda curious if Nursery could empower Alice's witchcraft like essentially making them be akin to a noble phantasm or is that something that would be impossible? I'm just curious how their powers would interact

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

@@SadBoy-pe5oq They could be one helluva team for sure!

Would you consider replaying it when the game comes out officially I honestly think it's worth it I would replay it again a excellent game in terms of writing

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

It is out officially, just digital only till they ship pre orders. I can't stream any further because of guidelines set by Aniplex.

@MentalOutlvl6

Жыл бұрын

@@otakudaikun will that change once the physical version comes out

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

@@MentalOutlvl6 No, sadly.

Was the Switch/PS4 version any different than the one that was released like a decade ago? (Besides the fact that it has an actual english translation and voice patch)

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

It displays in full HD now and has voice acting.

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

One major change for sone reason is that they deleted one scene. No idea the reasoning behind it though.

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

@@lenleon3699 What scene was that?

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

@@otakudaikun It’s in the chapter around the big final exams part. If I recall it served as the follow up to Alice visiting the library and it centered around Alice noticing Shizuki cleaning the yard. This led to a discussion about his views on nature and the value of life. The scene also had a portion dedicated to Alice’s backstory and how her family venerated unicorns or something like that (and that his dad and grandfather where, as per usual for mages, just jizz banks to create a heir). Honestly, I have no idea why the scene was removed, other than maybe Nasu retconned it.

Don't want to spoil myself so I promise I'll be back to watch once I finish the game. Edit: I'm back.

What I know before watching the video: Aoko Aozaki is a young magus who was chosen to succeed her grandfather as the inheritor of the Aozaki family magic crest. Her elder sister Touko was enraged to be passed over and was believed to have murdered Grandpa Aozaki in retaliation but that was actually a friend of Touko’s. Aoko lives with a witch named Alice Kuonji, who uses strange magical traps called Ploys, some of which are alive in a sense. Aoko’s magecraft is witnessed by a young man named Soujuurou who Aoko and Alice attempt to capture to erase his memories. When Aoko and Alice come to disagree on how to progress, Alice traps Aoko and Soujuurou in an amusement park with one of the strongest of her Ploys called Flat Snark. Aoko eventually realizes that Flat Snark has impersonated the full moon and they are in danger of being annihilated by its massive strike. In desperation, Aoko calls upon hidden reserves of strength and unconsciously channels the Fifth Magic. After this, Aoko and Alice agree to host Soujuurou temporarily while researching a method of removing his memories. Aoko is attacked by a frightful doll that bears a resemblance to her, and it is revealed at the climax that Touko sent it to try to kill her. Touko herself attacks using a massive array of magic crests taken from other magi with the aid of a powerful Elemental named Lugh Beowulf, who is NOT a werewolf but similar to one. Soujuurou reveals he is a practitioner of “Snake,” the same martial art used by Souichirou Kuzuki and deals Lugh a devastating (but non fatal) defeat, the first he’s ever experienced. Touko murders Soujuurou in retaliation and Aoko properly uses the Fifth Magic to save Soujuurou then defeats and curses Touko so she cannot attack again for many years. I don’t believe they mentioned it in the story but Touko weaseled out of the curse by killing herself and swapping into another of her doll bodies. Aoko eventually finds a memory removing spell but chooses not to use it and presumably stays friends with Soujuurou. I’m sure I missed quite a bit, but let me know how much.

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

Soujuuro never says what his style is in the actual VN.

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

@@otakudaikun because he never completed the training. He got smuggled out of the mountain because he was beginning to question things.

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

@@lenleon3699 It's still not 100% confirmed as far as I know.

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

@@otakudaikun I mean, it likely felt like something they wanted to explore later. That said Aoko literally all but muses to herself that all Shizuki told her sounded just like indoctrination and training (which is funny because mages do the same thing).

So... Touko is like her student with the multiple personalities or somesuch

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

Similar but not as extreme. Shiki's personalities are rather unique.

can someone give me examples as to when the counter force actively opposed and successfully prevented a mage from reaching the root

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

Presumably the vast majority of times. We only hear about the successes, but that implies there are plenty of failures.

@King--JD

Жыл бұрын

@@otakudaikun I understand. I'm asking about specific example. I'm curious as to the main way the counter force opposes mages other than servants

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

@@King--JD I know, but they honestly don't show examples. Presumably it's rather stealthy about it.

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

@@King--JD there are no examples. Mahoyo itself implies that mages just “vanish” in most tries. And the whole specter that threatened to murder Aoko every tine she attempted to use her magic is pretty much implied to be the Counter Force. So yes, we can only showcase successes, and the amount is so small we can only assume the rest ended in failure regardless of the reason.

soujiro is like tarzan

Anga banga huh...classic

Hey man, I have a question. It's true that most Magus don't train to protect themselves from guns and normal weapons made by man? If it's true then why they don't do this?

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

They do. There are ways for mages to endure or dodge bullets.

@extremeotakugamer

Жыл бұрын

@@otakudaikun Good, or not. Hey, If there was a war between mages and normal humans which one do you think would win?

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

@@extremeotakugamer That's really hard to say. I'd assume mages would win if they used Atlas superweapons. Those are supposed to end the world.

the church have a class in killing mentors or it is something that they know when born?

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

I highly suspect it's another case of Nasu reusing ideas. Some of Eiri must have bled into Kirei.

I just finished the main story on new year's eve and imho it indeed is the BEST STORY Nasu has ever written. It serves as a good introduction for the Nasuverse and benefits a lot from its simplicity. Nasu managed to avoid the pitfalls he falls victim to in his other works. No forced romance (although it feels like Nasu intended to ship Soujuurou with the "witches" but restrained himself at the last minute), no overly long lore and info dumps, no badly written hentai scenes, no pretentious rambling over ideals, no edgelord-moments for the sake of being edgy. Just Aoko, Alice & Soujuurou being themselves and interacting with each other & the support cast. I also liked Touko as a villain. Idk why people claimed that MahoYo made them look at Touko in a different way regarding how she was portrayed in KnK. In both works Touko has the exact same personality. It's just that her rivalry with Aoko comes into play here. That being said, Aoko is easily the best Type Moon protagonist (sry not sorry Shirou-stans) and is the best TM "tsundere" too. There I said it. She's essentially Rin, but even meaner at times. With her only being good at destruction and how she's treated as this feared student council president, her very outgoing/energetic and downright aggressive attitude makes her stand out much more compared to the rather reserved protagonists Nasu usually writes. It kinda reminds me of how Falcom wrote Estelle Bright in the Kiseki series. Alice on the other hand is just precious. Both were wholesome female leads. The biggest surprise for me was the church father though. Eiri Fumizuka was so based. Imagine Kirei but more bi-shounen. His dialogue with Soujuurou in Chapter 11 was one of my favorite scenes. MahoYo also has my favorite ending. Soujuurou and Aoko just talk and wonder over the future, ending with Soujuurou's "happy new year". And then the supercell song kicks in. I really liked the underlying theme of the story (the uncertain march into the future). The fights between the magicians were good as well. Not as over the top as FSN or TsukiRE but you can follow what happens. For me, Mahou Tsukai no Yoru is easily Nasu's magnum opus. MahoYo stays consistently good while his other works have higher highs but infuriating lows at times. Now I'm interested in the sequels.

@armandomendoza7371

Жыл бұрын

Finally, someone who appreciates Fumizuka like me, can't wait to learn about him in the sequels

@jkosch

Жыл бұрын

I think Mahoyo "avoids" all the pitfalls because it was originally written completely free of any thoughts about selling it or even fan appeal. The original version was published in 1996 (2 years before even the original release of KnK as a web novel on the original Bamboo Broom website) and all the "books" released were a few made at copy shop. Tsukihime was written to sold at a convention as a fan project, and even KnK was put up on a website to represent Nasu and Takeuchi. I guess the original Mahoyo was the most "pure" of Nasu's works to be completed [not talking about the Old Fate ideas developed even earlier as that was never completed before Type Moon returned to it], given that it lacked additional years of exposure to the anime/manga fandom and it's trends (though I won't deny that Nasu had already some experience when the wrote the original Mahoyo in his early 20s). And I guess Nasu wanted to really capture that same feeling with the released VN version. That being said, I do like the more recent works as well, so I don't think Nasu's writing has really been "spoiled" by those additional experiences. I enjoy the new Tsukihime as well, and honestly, to me it is just as good (albeit different) from Mahoyo - all that it lacks is the ingenious directing of Tsukuri Monoji who made practically every shoot in Mahoyo looking like a CG even even it was using sprites.

@justasoulsfan9805

Жыл бұрын

@@jkosch Well that's the difference between you and me. Unlike you, I don't like Nasu's recent works at all. If anything I think he got significantly worse or tries too hard to cater to the modern anime/manga fandom. Especially FGO and Tsukihime Remake are guilty of that. It hurts even more if one has read the original Tsukihime and sees what TM did to it and Melty Blood. Although I'm interested in the MahoYo sequels I expect them to be very similar to Tsukihime Remake. At least I can safely ignore them in that case and treat MahoYo 1 as a self contained story.

@eclipsewaves

Жыл бұрын

Shirou ( and Fujimaru ) is the worst protagonists in TYPE-MOON, for me. The whole idea of Shirou in the VN ( pulling humans and a Servant as harem is like the idea of a beginner mangaka who is trying to write a unintentionally generic isekai story with the MC being an edgelord and have hidden power and could overpower Servants when the freaking Rin Tohsaka ( the direct descendant from the three families that created the Holy Grail War, have a specialty in Jewel Magecraft that could be used as an offensive or defensive weapons and have access to Gandr Shots that is absolutely destructive and is similar to Aoko's Destruction Magic and could literally project the freaking sword of Zelretch, a weapon created by the wielder of Second Magic himself and almost defeated Angra Mainyu + Greater Grail Corrupted Sakura who is said to have reached a TRILLION Magical Units during the final fight of Heaven's Feel route if it weren't for her intentionally lowering her guard down ) couldn't do the same shit as Shirou can do. He's an edge-lord, a reincarnation of those mediocre and trash male MC from generic isekai anime who is "i'M wEaK, bUt tHerE's a hIddEn tAleNt iNsiDe mE tHat cAn mAke mE sO pOweRfUl iT can aTtrAct hArem aNd dO whAt tHe briGhtEst mAge iN mY eNtIrE fReaKinG gEnerAtIon of mAgUseS cAn't dO". Thankfully Kara no Kyoukai and Witch on The Holy Night is there to show that female MCs can be more competent and doesn't need to be a fantasy-derived cringe edgelord who is "tHe hErO oF jUstiCe". Cringe at the max.

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

@@eclipsewaves … what?

5th magic definitely can do more than that right?

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

Maybe? We never really see beyond that.

I thought nameless woods didnt work on Soujyuro bcz they said he was dumb?

@huealter3366

3 ай бұрын

They THOUGHT it was 'cause Soujuurou is dumb but as it was revealed later, even sister Yuika whose senses are enchanced could not sense him. Probally because of his training in the mountain which made him almost "nothing" before he gained a "self" for some reasons.

@unignorance7736

3 ай бұрын

@@huealter3366 damn, thanks

Question: did Mahoyo happen before Touko start mass killing Prelati

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

Uhhhh... probably?

@yahikopain7220

Жыл бұрын

F/SF timeline tho

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

@@yahikopain7220 I still need to experience Strange Fake.

@yahikopain7220

Жыл бұрын

@@otakudaikun sir I mean, that touko vs prelati fight did not happen in mahoyo timeline but in strange fake timeline

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

@@yahikopain7220 I see. I guess that's my bad and I hope to learn more.

Why Salomon have Clairvoyance, i can understand why Gilgamesh he is the ,,observator of humanity". Merlin Clairvoyance is realited to his role as an observator to the end of time as the prisoner of Avalon, but why Salomon?

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

He was blessed by God's knowledge. One could argue he's a better mage than Merlin.

@Nasah-uy6ep

Жыл бұрын

@@otakudaikun Thanks.

@armandomendoza7371

Жыл бұрын

@@otakudaikun Couldn't he realistically strip Merlin from his magecraft with the 10 rings? WIth them there literally is no mage that can fight him (except magicians)

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

@@armandomendoza7371 he could, but the whole point of Solomonnis that he was so powerful that he declined to use his power. So basically he can, but he won’t.

Is this the mage of Magdalene?

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

I've never heard of that.

She only has one bluebird as a body double? I’d prefer Ashiya Dōman’s shikigami clones.

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

She's got one robin, but it doesn't necessarily die when it takes the hit for you. It just has this rule where it can only impersonate any given person one time.

Avalon Le Fae Lostbelt explained when?

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

When it comes out in NA.

@RussianGuyBro

Жыл бұрын

@@otakudaikun but they already have full translations on KZread

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

@@RussianGuyBro I know, but I honestly have enough type Moon stuff to cover in the meantime.

So far the second and third true magic are the only ones worth having. Kaleidoscope and Heaven’s Feel.

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

Well the 5th certainly helped out here.

@adamsabra2683

Жыл бұрын

Technically touko achieved heaven's feel , which is a win :p

51:30

No point of erasing his memory after everything's he has done

I wonder how Rin would stack up against some of these characters.

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

She would not be able to compete. The mages of Mahoyo are an actual Magician, a Witch from an Age of Gods clan who descends from a Magician, and a Mage who is considered one of the strongest in the Clock Tower.

@cyacyi779

Жыл бұрын

​@@lenleon3699 Rin has a Zelretch sword, like the one used in heavens feel against dark Sakura. Rin can be on par with this magician

@cyacyi779

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/a22bpaOyfsXUoMo.html

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

@@cyacyi779 Every Zelretch student has one, as it is the final test of Zelretch for them to recreate it from scratch. Rin has an incomplete recreation she was working on after the Grail War (the one Shirou makes gets destroyed by magical backlash) and even the sword itself is considered to be an application of the Kaleidoscope, not the full scope of the Magic. Full disclosure, Zelretch failed Rin as a disciple and refused to take her (his reasoning was vague but had to do with her fate being elsewhere). Instead she got taught SOME of his techniques.

I really like this VN. Touko is one of my favorite characters. I just don't like soujuro.

Hmm...better world building some of fgo events enjoyed it,worth ur time.

@eclipsewaves

Жыл бұрын

Okay, I know you people hated FGO, but this is just pure bias. FGO introduced the whole thing about the Pan-Human History and it's reverse element, which is one of the biggest element in the TYPE-MOON. 95% of the events from Age of God is introduced in FGO ( alongside Fate/Extra ) and we wouldn't have gotten idea of the ancient worlds from TYPE-MOON like Babylonia, Camelot, India, Scandinavia, Russia, Olympus, Atlantis, Japan, Britain and how would they function as a part of TYPE-MOON universe and how important were them for the modern world to happen. Sorry, but FGO is the biggest world-building creator in TYPE-MOON now.

@pranavshinde4472

Жыл бұрын

@@eclipsewaves edit:I misplace some of with most of my bad I'm sorry I myself am an fgo player and got into it due to the plot going over my head due to the anime so in simple words curiosity killed the cat oh!and the events that I dislike pls,we all know how annoying Halloween is in fgo I just got a taste of it with the cursed eli challenge quest in saber wars trust me,if u can handle that ur one heck of a player

So this visual novel has no romance in it oh well still good story nonetheless.

i'm kind of not into visual novels (falls right into that pit of "too boring to be a videogame, not practical enough to be a manga") but i would have given it a trial for you... *IF ONLY IT WAS ON STEAM* !!! Aaaah companies and management... If only you guys were gamers, you would rule the world...

@maniau

10 ай бұрын

well, its coming to steam

Last time I was so early only about half of Mahou Tsukai no Yoru had been translated into English. Last time I was so early Touko had a different hair length ... Last time I was so early Assassins raised in the mountains were more likely to team up with Greek instead of "Japanese" "witches".

Sojirou is BUSTED! He takes a lot of sh*t in the story and is still unrelented 🗿💯💪

Am I the only one who likes Touko more? But I mean I reeeeeally like KnK so I think that makes me biased

@lenleon3699

Жыл бұрын

That is just bias. Remember, even if Mahoyo does not fit 1 to 1 with all timelines, Nasu did imply young Touko and Aoko were always the same. So we can assume she was not exactly the nicest of people in her youth, regardless of timeline.

Man if only the translation was better... Well at least it's not as atrocious as Chaos Head

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

It's not too bad. I'm more bothered by the typos. It's like nobody proofread it in the game itself.

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So... Having seen all of it now This came with its own fandisc built in huh

@otakudaikun

Жыл бұрын

Kinda, yeah.

Ew…Tsundere. If Aoko is Tsundere and Toko is generally two faced, how is Aoko the protagonist here?

Am I the only one that didn't like the official translation?

@otakudaikun

6 ай бұрын

No, I've been hearing that.