Thank you Daedalic for providing that nostalgic terrible licensed game feel!

@stuporman

Жыл бұрын

it's like an LJN game back in the day

@theprofessor2062

Жыл бұрын

go to hell! Did you play Gollum to say that? This is a great game for great people.

@Mr_APeezy

Жыл бұрын

@@stuporman ehhh, at least LJN had some quality games like Spider-Man & Venom in Maximum Carnage, a good deal of the WWF games, and Alien 3 based off what I remember

@MelindaSordinoIsLiterallyMe

Жыл бұрын

Don't care, Daedalic Entertainment's first title was Edna and Harvey: The Breakout, one of the best games I have ever played. Don't care at all about Lord of the Rings.

@strangestecho5088

Жыл бұрын

It would have been a great pack-in game for cereal!

Tom is probably the only man in youtube that can calmly explain what a doo doo of a game Gollum is

@Saif0412

Жыл бұрын

Yeah he was very polite 😅

@vaulttraveler3478

Жыл бұрын

He is probably the only adult on youtube

@giannis_tar

Жыл бұрын

He is professional. His job is to perform technical analysis, not rant

@Dohvakiiin

Жыл бұрын

"Doo Doo" 🤣

@Day_Reezy

Жыл бұрын

​@@Dohvakiiin straight DOOKIE 💩 😂

Can't wait for the horror story behind this game to drop in a decade or so. It'll be.. precious.

@nathandts3401

Жыл бұрын

​@girayneIt's the biggest scale game they've made. The developer is a shovelware house. The reason this is a failure is they were too overambitious. They likely didn't have the staff.

@arbiter787

Жыл бұрын

@@nathandts3401 Daedalic is well known for quite high-quality point-and-click adventure games. They were far from a shovelware house, but definitely unequipped to handle anything of this scale.

@nathandts3401

Жыл бұрын

@@arbiter787 In my experience, older women are the primary audience for simple point and clicks. Shovelware feels like it's the appropriate word.

@pferreira1983

6 ай бұрын

@@nathandts3401 Shovelware how? Feel free to look them and and feel they're shovelware. 😆

The fact that Gollum from 2014’s Shadow of Mordor looks better than him in 2023 is crazy

@DragonOfTheMortalKombat

Жыл бұрын

Your comment sums up majority of modern AAA games.

@yancgc5098

Жыл бұрын

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Sadly

Nice DF Retro episode for this classic PS2 title.

@offspringfan89

Жыл бұрын

😂

@DragonOfTheMortalKombat

Жыл бұрын

Running via emulation with RT mod..................................................wait a minute.

Gollum is a perfect metaphor for the torture of terrible PC ports that Alex has had to endure this year

@3komma141592653

Жыл бұрын

I remember when people wrote that PS5 is more powerful than most PCs,.. and now when i see this game and how bad it performs, holly hell. How and why do people actually spend money on this garbage game. Even some cut scenes look like 10..15 years old.

@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE

Жыл бұрын

@@3komma141592653 But the PS5 is more powerful than 99% of PCs on the planet. Yes, this game is a disaster though.

@kiisseli1337

Жыл бұрын

@@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE It sure is not

@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE

Жыл бұрын

@@kiisseli1337 Do you realise the specs of the average PC?

@theguest103

Жыл бұрын

​@@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE 😅 logically, the Nintendo switch is also more powerful than about 90% of PCs on earth. Doesn't change the fact they're both glorified leapfrogs with wifi

the very least the developers can do at this point is to put together a post mortem video documentary that explains what happened here

@vanivan5202

Жыл бұрын

Publisher greed and incompetence of a team who never worked with this genre, that's in short.

@Prelmable

Жыл бұрын

Unfamiliarity with UE, new genre, pandemic. Their writing is still good, Gollums monologues are great.

@MelindaSordinoIsLiterallyMe

Жыл бұрын

Don't care, Daedalic Entertainment's first title was Edna and Harvey: The Breakout, one of the best games I have ever played. Don't care at all about Lord of the Rings.

@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE

Жыл бұрын

@@MelindaSordinoIsLiterallyMe You don't care, or they didn't care? Grammar, please.

@ftrunks2k

Жыл бұрын

@@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE he's just copy/pasting into each negative comment smh.

I was recently watching someone on Twitch playing this game on pc and everry time they died the fps got worse for some reason until it was looking like a PowerPoint presentation. This is truly one of the games of all time

@fearedjames

Жыл бұрын

It means when the game reloads itself its not properly garbage handling something.

Wow I had no idea it was THIS bad. I've mostly just skimmed through reviews on Steam but this is another level.

@Psythik

Жыл бұрын

It blows my mind that modern consoles *still* struggle to run games at 60 FPS @ 1440p. Meanwhile I'm enjoying a solid 120+ FPS at 4K in nearly *every* game on my PC! If I can't get at *least* 90 FPS on a PC game @ 4K, then I won't even waste my time on it. Can't believe that console games are coming out on a freaking PS5 and *still* struggle to maintain even 30 FPS with ray tracing! Pathetic! What happened to optimization?

@KrazzeeKane

Жыл бұрын

@Psythik there are a crapton of amazing PC new releases that won't run at a solid 90+ fps at 4k lol, you are full of crap and being extremely hyperbolic. Even with the best intel or AMD processor and a 4090, there's plenty of games that won't even get 60 at 4k, it's simply too taxing. If you need 90+ fps at 4k to play anything, then you must only be playing older games and twitch shooters and such, because most solid rpgs and such nowadays can't do 90+fps at 4k with the best of pc hardware available right now

@materialburst983

Жыл бұрын

You had yes idea though.

@rsuarez1991

Жыл бұрын

​​@@Psythikis your pc worth $500? are you running native 4k? are you using a midrange amd gpu like the consoles? you're right to question optimization, it's a fact most developers nowadays are garbage at it regardless of it being almost inevitable because stockholders are rushing them to release unfinished products. gamers have to stop paying to be alpha testers if they want to make those greedy publishers understand they're not turning a profit unless games are polished upon launch.

@nathandts3401

Жыл бұрын

​@@PsythikThe entire consoles cost less than a high end graphics card. It's not too surprising that 1440p is the best they can do at 60fps. You buy a console and you're paying for convenience and the first party exclusives.

I'm so excited for the Switch version of this game, just because of all the fun videos that's going to produce.

@theprofessor2062

Жыл бұрын

This amazing game will work amazingly when it comes out on Switch, the developers have already apologized and are hard at work on patches. In a couple of months, all gamers in the world will be playing it with great pleasure. Mark my words.

@lostpattern9407

Жыл бұрын

@@theprofessor2062 New to gaming ?

@cptninja7890

Жыл бұрын

@@lostpattern9407 😂😂 i think he is and the way he spoke seems like these words are comming from a kid

@EVPointMaster

Жыл бұрын

@@theprofessor2062 you forgot the /s

@idith7403

Жыл бұрын

@@EVPointMaster doesn’t need it, it’s obvious enough

I think Sony should take it off the Market like they did with Cyberpunk 2077.

@ttghhgg1918

Жыл бұрын

Cyberpunk was a technical feat of a game it’s Sonys fault they can’t feed the peasants with high end hardware while charging 200$

@dustojnikhummer

Жыл бұрын

​@@ttghhgg1918 No, it was CDPR releasing Cyberpunk two years too early

@fernando_alfradique

Жыл бұрын

​@Tt Ghhgg nah that game was broken on every platform, PC included. Just a buggy mess with a bland gameplay. Story was cool, I'll give you that, but that's as good as it gets.

@bradhaines3142

Жыл бұрын

​@@ttghhgg1918 it's fine now, so clearly it was the games fault, not sonys. though for 200 you're right that you cant expect much lol

@reiresonance4643

Жыл бұрын

None of the platform holders, especially Sony care in what messy state something on their platform releases as long as they dont compromise security of their platform or have really troublesome content for them. Sony only did that to Cyberpunk because it had a huge opening and hype around it, leading to angry mobs wanting their money back and bothering their customer services too much. So it was simply easier to deal with by just tempoary remove it. Sony wouldnt care for Cyberpunk if it had the same interest (basically none) as this. Sony is happily advertising Life of Black Tiger after all. So basically dont expect platform holders to take action unless they feel forced to.

One thing to also note about this game: Gollum cannot kill orcs wearing a helmet

I feel like I’m in a twilight zone episode with all of these poor game releases.

@joshuaDstarks

Жыл бұрын

It would be the Twilight Zone if they didn’t exist.

@eliack95

Жыл бұрын

Never expect much from these studios that just exploit huge IPs

@Berssange55

Жыл бұрын

In Night Springs!

@T0asty-

Жыл бұрын

Were in the dark time line

@sopcannon

Жыл бұрын

but dlss and frame generation will save the pc version- nvidia probably

I love the positive thing you found about the game: "Plus the concept art included in the Deluxe edition does give a fascinating insight into what could have been." :D

@fghjxcvb

Жыл бұрын

That itself, is a feat.

Looks like Daedalic punched way above their own weight with this one. It's cool that they explore new territories, but this is just awful. I really hope they will recover from this because their point & click adventure games are usually fantastic and they play a significant part in the adventure revival. It's true what they say: Schuster, bleib bei deinem Leisten.

@chrisbent5734

Жыл бұрын

Ich stimme dir voll und ganz zu, mein Bruder in Christus.

@Robert-zc5be

Жыл бұрын

Well, my only experience with Deadalic was Deponia on PC and I couldn't finish it because of bugs. Many people experienced the same problem and the developers couldn't fix it, they just uploaded a save allowing players to bypass the problematic section. So it's not like the company has a great track record.

@Speedkomodo

Жыл бұрын

Nearly all of the people responsible for their point and click adventures are already no longer at daedalic. They all left since the buyout from nacon. Even Poki, one of the devs who wrote many of their games, voiced characters and sang the songs, left three years ago.

@IkesDaddelbox

Жыл бұрын

@@Speedkomodo I did not know that. So basically the quality already started to drop, and Gollum is the peak of it all.

@frankbasile3662

Жыл бұрын

Only encountered on bug in my 10 plus hour through on ps5 and no stuttering at all.Its actually a good parkour focused adventure game,with good dialogue between Gollum and other characters.Decent stealth and puzzles.The art style and level variety is well done as are certain set pieces.Its not nearly as bad as people claim and was actually pretty good.Seems people expected something different then an adventure game,where upset with the shitty PC version and dlc bullcrap,or just jumped on the hate bandwagon watching a few vids instead of playing post patch update.Easy 7 out of ten for me ,will put it on the shelf with my hundred of other games to enjoy in future playthroughs...Much Respect to the studio for their unique vision and experience playing as Gollum..

The audacity for this game to describe anything as “quality mode”

In Shadow of Mordor PS3's defense, despite all the cutbacks and poor performance, it was a valiant effort porting it to an aging console known for being difficult to work with. This game, however, is inexcusable.

@SuperFriendBFG

Жыл бұрын

Frankly, the last gen ports should never have been made. I think WB Games did realize that after the fact but hindsight is 20/20.

@WH250398

Жыл бұрын

Valliant effort? Wouldn't say so. Didn't seem to have much effort behind it at all. Metal Gear Solid 5 was done better on last gen.

@Highwaysonyfan87

Жыл бұрын

@@WH250398 MGS 5 was built with ps3/Xbox 360 in mind unlike shadow of Mordor which was built with ps4/Xbox one first in mind. Not the same situation at all.

@raresmacovei8382

Жыл бұрын

No. Shadow of Mordor is a thoroughly 7th gen looking game with some upgrades for 8th gen. It should have not run that disastrously on PS3/X360. Whoever did the port or WB didn't bother with actually putting out a great port.

@TheBean87

Жыл бұрын

The 360 version ran pretty good despite the 30 seconds menu loading every time you pushed the start button

Seeing all these closeups of Gollum's bug-eyed freaking out face is hilarious

I really want a PS1 demake of this, it'd be a genuine improvement.

@jamesgravil9162

Жыл бұрын

You could probably just port it over to PS1 and not see a difference.

@moister3727

Жыл бұрын

Just wait for the Switch version to come out

How dare anyone release a game in a state like this?!?!

@davewills6121

Жыл бұрын

You have it the wrong way round, there all released close to this condition, its finding one that isn't...well Zelda TOTK takes that prize.

@bluestar5812

Жыл бұрын

Because these games are targeting general audiences and casuals. People that don't follow gaming or tech news and usually plays like 1 or 2 games a year. They see LotR name in the cover in the retail store and they buy.

@oliverdavis4642

Жыл бұрын

​@@bluestar5812 there are movies that target general audiences and casuals film goers, but a film as bad as this game is just doesn't release.

@theprofessor2062

Жыл бұрын

You mean so masterpiece? I agree, people don't deserve that kind of gold.

@Lackooo84

Жыл бұрын

@@theprofessor2062 lul

I love how all the questions he ask already were answered with the footage in the background🤣

@Egurius3

Жыл бұрын

Well to be fair, that is usually the case with Tom's videos. Whenever he asks these questions, you usually get the broad answer by looking at the footage.

"I had to delete my PS5 save and start all over again, which isn't great.' Tom, master of understatement!

At Forspoken launch: this is obviously the worst game of the year. At Redfall launch: This is obviously the worst game of the year. At Gollum launch: This is definitely the worst game of the year?

@Mickice

Жыл бұрын

Forspoken redeemed. 😂

@lordspalse0062

Жыл бұрын

It's a 'from frying pan to fire' generation 😂😂

@Vsevolod3788

Жыл бұрын

At Starfield launch: here it is!

@OrtadragoonX

Жыл бұрын

@@Vsevolod3788 In Starfield’s case I think that’ll blow over pretty smoothly because people expect an obscene level of jank and bugginess in an internal Bethesda project. I vividly remember Skyrim on PS3. And that was an absolute nightmare of a port. Still better than New Vegas on PS3. It’s my favorite Fallout game, but I had the misfortune of playing it on PS3. I was so jealous of my friends on 360 and PC because their versions were just mildly janky. My version was full on disaster.

@BenoHourglass

Жыл бұрын

@@OrtadragoonX They spent an additional 10 months working on it; you'd hope that the significant bugs would be fixed at that point (though they may keep in some "fun" ones because that's what people expect at this point).

What I dont get is that if you want to make a LOTR game featuring Gollum.... Why on earth not from the time when he still had the ring? With the ring you could have made stealth sections that made actual sense... Also, with the ring Gollum would have been able to fight creatures much stronger than him. You could make interesting mechanics, like the more you use the ring, the crazier Gollum gets, with like weird hallucinations or something. Or perhaps introduce special beings from the spirit realm like the wraiths who can only see him when he has the ring on, forcing you to switch between both worlds. Knowing when to use the ring or when absolutely not to and look for another solution, sounds like a very solid gameplay foundation for an adventure game with platforming and stealth elements. Also it would allow us, as players, to use the actual freaking ring and play around with its awesome power... I mean... it sounds like a no-brainer to me... And it would have made total sense within the Tolkien canon... Gollum had the ring for a long time and did all sorts of crazy stuff during that time. You could start the game with him finding the ring and killing his brother Deagol and end the game in the cave with Bilbo, so perfectly framed within the bigger story. Also from a narrative perspective it would have been great... We could have seen a original take of how someone goes insane, as the ring slowly takes over Smeagols mind and turns him in to Gollum... Perhaps to tell a more universal tale beyond the character about the phenomenon insanity in general. From that perspective the story would have been just as much about the ring itself as about Gollum, surely a much more interesting proposition for any LOTR fan. The only reason why Gollum is a part of the story and why he is even interesting as a character is because he had the ring for so long anyway. Gollum could have been the narrative vehicle through we, as players, could have experienced what it must have been like to hold a ring of power with its terrible influence. Gollum would have been perfect for that because he isnt a Nazgul or great Elven Lord or anything... He could have been anyone so perfectly suited for this role.

@jamesgravil9162

Жыл бұрын

"Why on earth not from the time when he still had the ring? With the ring you could have made stealth sections that made actual sense..." It's a good idea, but it flies in the face of canon. We are told that the reason Gollum didn't turn into a wraith, despite possessing the Ring for so many years, is that he *didn't* use the Ring often after his banishment. But more than that, I think turning the One Ring into a gameplay device cheapens it - unless it comes with some kind of risk/reward system. For example, using the Ring too frequently should result in damage to Gollum's stats (maybe it lowers his endurance?), while you get bonuses for completing sections without resorting to the Ring. Basically, the Ring is so overpowered that you should use it as little as possible.

@ageoflove1980

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesgravil9162 Yeah thats what I tried to think about. Using the ring might attract wraits or something, or cause like weird hallucinations, or speeds up the transition from Smeagol to Gollum which comes with potential downsides. Basically, like a sort of super buff that you can only use for a short time. I mean, thats not not-cannon and offers a lot of possibilities gameplay-wise. Sounds a lot better than anything the actual game does right? :P

Gollum in the thumbnail: "No bitches?"

People tend to say the graphics of this game are PS3 level or whatever but tbh, I could name over 100 PS3 games that are actually quite beautiful and even have better textures. Like you cant tell me Gollum is on par with Killzone 2.

@yewtewbstew547

Жыл бұрын

Certainly most of the major first party ones I can think of. Metal Gear Solid 4. God of War 3. Heavenly Sword. And yeah I get it, first party AAA vs third party AA, unfair comparison. But... all of those games we just mentioned are over 12 years old lol. It's also just no excuse. Go look at gameplay of Styx: Shards of Darkness, and compare it to this. That's a similarly themed Unreal Engine 4 game from 5 years ago. Also made by a AA studio with budget constraints. Even just from KZread videos you can see that game is leagues ahead of Gollum both in terms of visuals and performance. UE4 might be a spotty engine, especially in terms of the visual fidelity to performance ratio, but plenty of smaller studios have made it work.

@fearedjames

Жыл бұрын

It reminds me a lot of Styx Master of Shadows, which was an awful indie stealth game from the early 8th gen.

This developer is mostly known for point and click adventure games. I don't understand why they didn't just make a telltale/life is strange style adventure game in a 3D space instead of a weird platformer/stealth game.

I'm sorry you had to endure so much of this monstrosity. You're doing the lord's work.

@RetroJack

Жыл бұрын

What's religion got to do with it?

@takkun169

Жыл бұрын

@@RetroJack relax chief, it's a fuckin goof

@pierreo33

Жыл бұрын

@@RetroJack What's love got to do, got to do with it?

@frankbasile3662

Жыл бұрын

Ran great on PS5,..absolutely not stuttering and only one bug at chapter 3.Was a very enjoyable parkour focused adventure game,not nearly as bad as people pretend

@takkun169

Жыл бұрын

@@frankbasile3662 this says more about your standards than it does about the quality of the game.

I actually just got a pre-roll advert for this game lmao

Testing this game must truly felt like going to mordor.

@uncleshadow3127

Жыл бұрын

Best comment in history

@ericwalker6477

Жыл бұрын

Looks like it was never tested.

@Justforvisit

Жыл бұрын

@@ericwalker6477 Like simply walking into Mordor!

@ericwalker6477

Жыл бұрын

@@Justforvisit ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY TEST

"Deep down here by the dark water lived old Gollum, a small slimy creature" 😉

Developing game (for many people) became ONLY connecting colored blocks and mark checkboxes in a game engine. It explains many issues in performance. It has a price.

@JukaDominator

Жыл бұрын

AI gotta step it up

I wonder if alex will be forced to play this nightmare on PC? 😅

@RealHero101111

Жыл бұрын

more interested into ps4 version

This game should have been either cancelled or sold for 20$.

@notoriouspomegranate5612

Жыл бұрын

20 dollars is still a lot. 5-10 would be more appropriate.

@MERCERENiTY

Жыл бұрын

Maybe.?.... $1.99 instead.

@victorko9627

Жыл бұрын

F2P with Microtransactions, like hairstyles for Gollum

@joshuaDstarks

Жыл бұрын

I’m waiting for the $4.99 sale myself. They will not get a penny more from me.

@noradrenaline7920

Жыл бұрын

2$

>"But you need 24gb 450w GPUs and 300w CPUs to play latest and greatest releases just so you can match the consoles" >Meanwhile here's how "Latest and Greatest Releases" look and run

I've noticed that KZread is zooming thumbnails in such that part of the title text is getting cut off. It might be a good idea to add a 10% "no-go zone" around the border of thumbnails for text to avoid that.

I don't know...is it just my selective view, or are we really in a period of time where Games don't really look that great but still can't manage acceptable performance, even on high-end PCs? Sometimes even Hardware several generations newer than the Game itself can't run certain titles at a solid 60...with GPUs that cost a small fortune...

@i3l4ckskillzz79

Жыл бұрын

I feel that

@MrMich1lol

Жыл бұрын

It's the obsession with ray tracing in most games. It requires $5k computers to run smoothly but barely makes a graphical difference. Not talking about this game tho, it's just an unfinished piece of trash.

@lordspalse0062

Жыл бұрын

That's why I stopped bothering with buying games. PS plus extra is all I'm comfortable with for now.

@fearedjames

Жыл бұрын

I said this in 2021. For the graphic improvements people want, the hardware does not currently exist. We didn't need a new console generation, and we are playing with software tech that isn't usable yet. This is the only reason upscaling tech is so focused on right now. Because without it graphics needed to stagnate for a while. The problem is, AAA developers have for the most part made garbage for years with only a few standouts, and Nvidia has to fund software tech advances to sell their graphics cards. Reasonably, games need to start focusing less on graphics and more on what they can do with their power. But most AAA games have game designers who know nothing about game design. The industry is reliant on novelty and is running out, so its pushing itself into a crash.

@igorthelight

Жыл бұрын

Hardware is not the problem here ;-)

I thought Gollum would be the type of story that would change depending on your choices In the trailer when confronted by orcs Smeagol wants to hide but Gollum chooses to fight I assumed that you would have the option to choose certain paths like a Smeagol route and a Gollum route and it would change key points throughout the game

10:11 truly a mordor experience

Haven’t seen PS3 graphics like this since Final Fantasy Stranger of Paradise.

Ironically even though it has that PS2 cheap license game feel to it the actual gameplay reminds me of nothing but bland AAA games from the 360/PS3 era. Super on rails and the stealth and platforming lack any depth whatsoever. Even if it wasn't a buggy mess there would be nothing fun about it unless you're really into that style of game we've thankfully long since moved past.

This game was the game of all time. The characters did some things. There was action. Gollum was in it. There was gameplay. The music played. Dialogue was spoken. Score/10

@DEWGOFFICIAL

Жыл бұрын

I was looking for this comment.

@kurtwinter4422

Жыл бұрын

But for $dollars more, you can hear dialog spoken better. Will you please give more $dollars?

Tom, I cackled when you included "convince SMEAGOL to kill the beetle and hide!" just so, so funny

I genuinely think this game was the developer biting off more than they could chew. Dadelic had never done anything this ambitious or with this kind of scope before, and I think that lack of experience resulted in games that look and feel unfinished on every platform.

@BoyProdigyBaby

Жыл бұрын

Yeah me too. TBH I pity them. This is perhaps standard case of bad management and decisions.

@iHaveTheDocuments

Жыл бұрын

​@@BoyProdigyBabyI pity the regular ppl that saved money so they could buy this $60 "game"

@IHeart16Bit

Жыл бұрын

What’s ambitious about it? When he said it’s designed like a PS2 movie tie in he wasn’t kidding.

@RedPillAlways

Жыл бұрын

​​@@iHaveTheDocuments who the hell would save money for this.. I can't think of anyone who wanted this. Let alone willing to pay $60

@AstroDK

Жыл бұрын

How is this game ambitious? This game looks like a DS lite game from 2007, and I hope Dadelic never make another game again. I cant believe they managed to produce a bigger dump than Redfall.

Gameplay wise it *looks* a lot like a generic Tomb Raider game. The difference is that the Tomb Raiders games sometimes have good puzzles, and the levels generally give you some idea of where you should be going. Not always, I'll grant you, but most of the time. From a technical point of view, I hope the develeopers can carry on optimising the game, and get enough of a frame rate boost that they can bring back the raytraced shadows, It does look halfway decent with those shadows enabled, we just need to get a decent framerate.

@CYB3R2K

Жыл бұрын

Plus Lara on tight pants or shorts

@AFourEyedGeek

Жыл бұрын

@@CYB3R2K Gollum is showing a lot of skin, that might do it for you.

@christianwilliam1167

Жыл бұрын

@@AFourEyedGeek smack that Gollum ass

@SlayerMasterPWI

Жыл бұрын

Glad I'm not the only one that thought Tomb Raider.

@GameslordXY

Жыл бұрын

You mean Tomb Raider games hold your hand? As soon as game doesn't hold your hand,then it's bad?🤔

Been gaming over 30 years and I never experienced such a pityfull state of affairs.

@davewills6121

Жыл бұрын

Where have you been lately?

@p0k314COM

Жыл бұрын

Agree.

Also Digital Foundry should absolutely make "Frametime, hitches!" T-shirts. (I'll see myself out.)

2:14 Huh, I've seen a lot of people playing this who didn't like it, but thought the climbing parts were TOO obvious, not hard to see. It looks like everywhere you need to go is painted on way too obviously.

A lot more effort was put into this coverage than the game itself!

Sméagol convinced the developers not to kill the bugs

@igorthelight

Жыл бұрын

Nice one!

Have you seen that No Man's Sky has been officially released for Macs? I'm really curious about the performance and the MetalFX upscailing, I would love a video from you guys

@bradhaines3142

Жыл бұрын

thats actually super interesting

@davewills6121

Жыл бұрын

Gaming on a MAC.....what will they think of next?

@MarkTheCat

Жыл бұрын

@@davewills6121 gaming on mac is perfectly fine. Now, with MetalFX it’s even better and easier for developers than ever.

I'm sad Gollum turned out this way. Gollum's story had good potential for a sympathetic villain, and the platforming could've been cool if it was well executed

@SuperNova-py1ec

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I have always been interested in what happened to Gollum before the Lord of the Rings. I think the books mentioned this in one line. It looks what we have here is greedy bosses forcing a game release when it is clearly in an alpha stage at best. Charging £60 for this rubbish is an insult and will hopefully punish them for their poor greedy reason for releasing this when clearly the game is no where near close to being released.

Kind of sad actually. I’ve always considered the Lord of the ring games to be very visually beautiful. So I assumed that this was going to be the case for this game. So I was shocked at how horrible it looked on post glance. I was really looking forward to the game. Because again, the Lord of the ring games had a pretty good storyline. I really liked Gollum. And was looking forward to playing it. Oh well.

@LionMob

Жыл бұрын

Man, those games are made by different developers. Gollum developer bought the rights and made their own, it doesn't have anything to do with the older LOTR games.

@Food4thought1234

Жыл бұрын

@@LionMob I didn’t say they were the same developers. I’m saying the franchise has a history of producing good games.

I think Lichdom: Battlemage has finally found its match.

@igorthelight

Жыл бұрын

But it looked better - just had performance issues! Or am I remembering it wrong?

Oh man, Tom took one for the team there, hopefully he enjoys his time with Street Fighter 6. I was never going to buy this game, but it’s still a damn shame, I hope Daedalic will recover.

Gollum in the Thumbnail: "No Precious?"

I just saw what is being reviewed and thought: "Damn, that's gonna be a blood bath. Why even beat a dead horse?". So sad that Daedalic wasn't able to make a good game out of it.

@Secret_Takodachi

Жыл бұрын

We can't just celebrate successes & ignore failures. That's not how learning happens. Gotta analyze mistakes if you want to avoid them in the future!

You can save 20 minutes. The answer is yes, yes it is a total disaster.

@Ben-kh7wh

Жыл бұрын

Nah I want to enjoy the disaster breakdown :)

@thefreemonk6938

Жыл бұрын

@@Ben-kh7wh same

@pierreo33

Жыл бұрын

Fun at parties

Some game devs don't even bother testing there games before releasing it full price

Don't Sony and MS have some sort of quality control for what they put on their respective stores? Who thought that this disaster was acceptable for release?

Tom is so good. Best in DF.

@SaigonBrit

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Hands down the best.

My eyes cannot bear all this beauty🙄

If they had stuck to their Point & Click expertise, they could have made a real good story driven game out of this with a nice drawn look to explore Gollums world. Why they went completely out of their field of experience with a big license like this is beyond me.

I doubt there's a community for it, but it's interesting to imagine hobbyists taking this over and turning it into something decent.

@komred64

Жыл бұрын

LOTR Gollum speedrun be like open game and hit exit in the main menu lol

@MrSkyl1ne

Жыл бұрын

I think that if you took Barbie horseback riding for PS2 as a base game and developed it further, you'd have a better game than this piece of fecal matter.

@starstruckjoker

Жыл бұрын

Hobbyists ? Did you mean to say Hobbits?

@bobtom1495

Жыл бұрын

I liked this game...

@christianwilliam1167

Жыл бұрын

@@bobtom1495 Do you like eating trash too or just putting it into your brain?

It's kind of hilarious looking back before the PlayStation 5 in series x were even announce that this was everyone's rumored preview into what next gen would look and be like. Considering the amount of programming nightmare failures that happened, maybe it's a little too prophetic.

@evostu7814

Жыл бұрын

These were supposed to be 4k 60fps machines lol for aaa releases.

@jordanwhite352

Жыл бұрын

@@evostu7814 No amount of power can mad eup for poor management and shitty coding.

@yewtewbstew547

Жыл бұрын

@@evostu7814 In terms of hardware they technically _should_ be capable of that assuming the game in question is well optimized and not wasting a ton of resources on frivolous effects. iirc the PS5 and Series X are both running about the equivalent of a Radeon 6600XT an Ryzen 3700x. Meanwhile the series S has a weaker GPU (I'm not sure what that one compares with), but the same CPU. Problem we've got right now is that optimization and properly managing the effects budget of game engines (especially UE4 and Unity) is basically just not a concept most game developers seem to be capable of grasping right now. And it has been that way for a few years now. Things are bad on PC too, worse even in many cases, but at least on PC you can brute force your way through most of these issues with powerful enough hardware. You absolutely should not have to though. Realistically this Gollum game, if it was actually made well, should be running 120fps+ max settings without raytracing on anything above a RTX 3060 and Ryzen 5600. Without hitching or stuttering.

@mancuniangamecat8288

Жыл бұрын

Golum, the first true next gen title. 😂

@BenoHourglass

Жыл бұрын

@@yewtewbstew547 The PS5 is about a RX 6700 non XT, while the Series X is more like a 6700 XT in terms of teraflops. They've stated that the Series S is on par with the Xbox One X, so about an RX 580.

KZread served up a Gollum ad before this video. Someone is wasting their marketing dollars 😅

The Digital Foundry crew are awesome, and Tom is one of the OG MVPs!

We should all appreciate Tom for suffering through this game so we don't have to. PS: Is the thumbnail a reference to that megamind meme or just a coincidence?

@HylianWindRider

Жыл бұрын

No framerate?

@jorgemartinez42069

Жыл бұрын

I just wanted to say that your picture is one of the best albums ever. I randomly discovered Milton Nascimento a few years ago and Clube de Esquina No 2 has moved me to tears multiple times from it's sheer beauty. I don't even understand the language, the music is enough.

You have to wonder how both Sony and Microsoft respectively cleared the game for release given the significant technical issues.

@USA92

Жыл бұрын

Nope. The process is known. Look it up!

@Th3Fly1ngCow

Жыл бұрын

They cleared cyberjunk 2077 so nothing shocks me

@Ayoul

Жыл бұрын

@@Th3Fly1ngCow Cyberpunk did get a "pass" for its pedigree, they promised they would fix the issues and because it was such a massive release. It's the kind of release that if only one platform has it, the other stands to lose a lot. Gollum is mostly just a bad game. It's not up to MS and Sony to stop bad games from releasing since they don't have anything to lose with smaller scale releases.

@Durwood71

Жыл бұрын

Money, baby!

@Th3Fly1ngCow

Жыл бұрын

@@Ayoul dude their is no pass for bad it was on ps3 it got delisted from the store lolz

Whenever I hear Gollum's _"Potatoes?"_ line in the movie I'll chuckle and think of the textures in this game.

Couldn't wait for this review to come out

The game looks like they was struggling to develop it, and didn’t know how to finish on time because they got not much time

UE4 has had capsule shadows since UE 4.7, they're not even present on an UE 4.27 game, pfft.

Developer to employees: Hey, great news, we got the license approval to make a Lord of the Rings game based on Gollum. Employees: Horray! Developer: What's our actual talent level to know what type of game we can actually aim for? Employees: We can give you slightly better quality visuals than the Spawn movie from the 90s and we don't mean the cool cape parts. Developer: We're doomed.

Funny starting the review with that mention because this reminds me of an early PS4 game basically a PS3 version with higher resolution and better texture filtering but nothing else thats a gen ahead and the character modeling and animation is just strange

When the developers asked themselves how they could match Shadow of Mordor they played the ps3 version. I'd say they succeeded in matching that version especially on series s.

I suspect the story here is how complex game development is today, it's a fine line to walk to make A or AA games.

@DragonOfTheMortalKombat

Жыл бұрын

Bruhh making games like this one is easier than ever. It uses Unreal engine which is open. Visuals look like trash as if only free assets were used that too not properly, game is laden with bugs. RT and SSR don't require much effort compared to rasterization. Simply blaming game development= complex is making fool of yourself. WE have had much better games in terms of graphics, physics, stability, un-bugginess in the past. The problem isn't game development, the problem is soulless studios and management.

Quality without RT and just 1440p. Gosh, what a distaster for a PS2 looking game.

And the people saying ubisoft games are badly optimized ? 🤣🤣

@daserfomalhaut9809

Жыл бұрын

Ubisoft games aren't badly optimized. They're just bad.

@bradhaines3142

Жыл бұрын

the engine is the problem with ubisoft

@darkking615

Жыл бұрын

@@daserfomalhaut9809 At least playable

@darkking615

Жыл бұрын

@@bradhaines3142 Well i can't say no to that but it's gets the job done

@lordspalse0062

Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised they got the spelling of the Character' s name right.

Everything about this game just baffles and amuses me. Genuinely curious how this got made.

@ChrissoWiper93

Жыл бұрын

1.) Be a 50 man 2D point and click game studio in germany. 2.) Be past yur prime 3.) Get bought out by shady publisher. 4.) Get forced to make a 3D AAA Lord of the rings game with just a 5 milion budget and no expirience

Why is it that DF keeps bringing up teraflops when the PS5 has shown time and time again that it’s not the whole story? The series s has issues that extend beyond “teraflops”. It’s just a slow, low res machine that needs crazy optimization and cutbacks

I am glad you do this work so gamers know exactly what they are in for before dropping $60 on the game. I know Steam has a return policy as long as you haven’t played the game too many hours. Not sure if Sony and Microsoft have a similar policy for digital purchases? I’m fortunate to never have felt so disappointed in a game I’ve sought out a way to return it.

@mononoke721

Жыл бұрын

They do not have such a return policy, but they clearly should given how so many games these days are releasing in unacceptable states.

With the Ring's of Power and now this: LoTR has taken a massive hit as of late🤣

Tried this on PC and was able to brute force my way through performance issues thankfully getting 150fps with RT enabled. Good thing too cause it showed me I needed to uninstall it. I knew it was going to be bad just 5 minutes in when I saw a nicely ray traced reflection in a puddle that was _on a slope._ I told my wife this looks like a PS4 game, only to find out later that's exactly what it was. I try to ignore reviews and spoilers for many games when today's pessimistic gamer always wants to burn new releases at the stake cause it doesn't run at 4k/120 on their 2070 super. I have a strong enough system to use raytracing when it's available so I'm usually immune to performance issues. I'm quite forgiving on games as I don't care about bugs and poor graphics as long as there's solid gameplay. And this is where Gollum's _REAL_ weakness lies. Gameplay is so laughably dull and linear. I'm fine with linear if they're holding your hand through having fun, but this was a slog through 2002 mediocrity. No amount of patches and optimization can save this dumpster fire when the core gameplay is deeply flawed and uninspiring. I wouldn't play this again if I could run it at 4k/360 with RT maxed. It truly deserves the terrible reviews it's gotten and more reviews need to focus on the game itself rather than the shitty performance, because that aspect isn't getting any better.

@EfecanYSL

Жыл бұрын

Calling this a PS4 game is an insult to beautifully made PS4 games like Arkham Knight, GoW, Spider-Man, TLOU2, GoT, Horizon, RDR2

@zodwraith5745

Жыл бұрын

@@EfecanYSL See that's one of the weird things about this game. Some assets look _really_ good while others are deep in PS4 territory. It's like they had 2 separate teams working on PS4 and next gen, and the next gen team ran out of time so they plugged in the models they didn't finish from the PS4 version to shove it out the door. The character models are especially bad when they should be the highest priority.

I was looking forward to this video :D.

Do we really need raytracing for reflections on flat surfaces like water and puddles? Half-Life 2 could do water reflections back in 2004. And what about that spartan hair simulation? Prince of Persia could do something as convincing way back in 2003. I'm getting the feeling developers are overenginering things these days.

@fearedjames

Жыл бұрын

Half Life 2 reflections are less a good example of good and more the stuff they got with Source 2. Almost as efficient, drastically better, and almost as good as ray tracing. Ray tracing is a comically wasteful tech achieving a minor effect that could much better be achieved with cheap technologies and good visual design. The problem is that those take a lot of work, why ray tracing is really easy and quick to implement (if you dont care to optimise)

Great analysis and no punches pulled. I feel bad for developers knowing their game is going to be put under a microscope like this while their execs want the game to release

@IHeart16Bit

Жыл бұрын

I feel much more sorry for people who handed over their hard earned cash for it.

@TylerHNothing

Жыл бұрын

@@caseypenk people need to work. Sucks when you’re at a company you like and you’re doing something you don’t believe in but want to feed your family

@TylerHNothing

Жыл бұрын

@@IHeart16Bit consumers should know better than to preorder. The reviews and gameplay is enough to conclude this is not for most people. Developers are however trying to make a living

@TylerHNothing

Жыл бұрын

@@caseypenk also there were surely some bad devs on the game. I feel bad for a good dev who has to work with people who don’t know what they’re doing, and bad management

@modermonkula

Жыл бұрын

I don't think anyone on the team had an ounce of passion to put into this game, very sad

2023 - the year of incredibly optimised games.... Said no one ever

Maybe an silly question, but I've never had a console. I know current gen consoles support VRR, but does the game have to support it too or it works on all the games?

I feel sorry for you, played this game how many times to capture all this? Good Job for the effort haha

Would love to know the development story behind this one

@pipgoesthepossum

Жыл бұрын

Team that's never done anything like this pushed to do it/being too ambitious, plus publisher pushing heavy advertising and full price for what should be a $20-30 title max.

@bluestar5812

Жыл бұрын

90% of budget to get the LotR license and characters, 9% marketing, 1% for the actual game. Maybe that's why the game was made by a borderline indie studio that only prior experience are point and click games.

@Krymzonnet

Жыл бұрын

It was a grab for government handouts. They got millions from Germany's budget, so they don't need to care whether gamers like it or pay for it

This is a nice warmup preparing for the inevitable Starfield analysis. Can’t wait to see how choppy and broken that game is.

@TheBean87

Жыл бұрын

And when it comes out swinging you’ll just go back in your cave.

@Marty6804

Жыл бұрын

There’s literally no reason to believe it will.

@kishaloyb.7937

Жыл бұрын

Why expect/hope for the negative?? Hope that Starfield is good, so that everyone gets to play and enjoy a new game.

@mysteriousm1

Жыл бұрын

@@Marty6804 apart from literally every Bethesda studio release ever. Of course those games were great, but from a technical perspective they were buggy af

@cliverosfield69

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBean87 u wish😏

Tom is back. All is good 😀

What about the PC port? How does it compare? Did they also remove RT shadows like they did with PS5?

@igorthelight

Жыл бұрын

It's better but still shit ;-) Source: all over the Internet xD

It seems that developers are having a hard time with the new machines.

@offspringfan89

Жыл бұрын

New machines? They are already 2.5 years old.

@xtr.7662

Жыл бұрын

its not because of that its due to games being too rushed and being fixed a year later through patches

Gollum is going to be Game of the Year 2023!!! Facts!!!

@theprofessor2062

Жыл бұрын

Fuck Yeah!!!!!111

@Mitch93636

Жыл бұрын

@@theprofessor2062 I’m actually being serious.

@theprofessor2062

Жыл бұрын

@@Mitch93636 Me too!!!

@Lyaagato

Жыл бұрын

GOTY LETS GOO!!! (garbage of the year)

@theprofessor2062

Жыл бұрын

@@Lyaagato you can laugh! The developers will release patches and all players in the world will play Gollum all year long. And then we will ask you: WHO IS LAUGHING NOW???!!!

This really feels like a retro game, like trying to run an old 2005 game on my awful 2003 pc with a cheap celeron processor.

Hey DF, why are you doing a full review on such an early build in this game’s developme…. Oh… Jokes aside, I appreciate your approach to this review. All done.

I'm surprised you covered this. Props for putting yourself through that for our benefit.

I've said this before but Gollum is if the gaming industry suddenly forgot more than 20 years of experience

@theprofessor2062

Жыл бұрын

I've said it before but Gollum is 20 years ahead of his time. The next generation of gamers will appreciate this masterpiece

@unoriginalname771

Жыл бұрын

@@theprofessor2062 nice joke