My dad always preached “Love is no excuse to get married”. Friendship must be established with trust and common values.

@AnnO-qk8ep

7 ай бұрын

Works for some. Others get friend zoned

I think if you're in an arranged marriage, there's family pressure to get married and stay in it (divorce isn't an option). Over time, you convince yourself to be "happy" because what other choice do you have? People can convince themselves of anything over time. If your only option is to live in a van down by the river, you might hate it at first but you get tired of living in misery so eventually learn to change your perspective and over time, it becomes familiar so you find "happiness" in it.

@Boyofway

7 ай бұрын

So happiness is like adaptation, although it also smells like resignation. I liked that point about... "make it work"

@coolbreeze5683

7 ай бұрын

@@VforVanity10 it's not about getting it right or wrong. It's called having an opinion. There's a principle in social psychology that proves people come to love what they have suffered for. That then begs the question "what is love anyway?". Is it something positive, negative or both? If it comes from suffering, is that attachment through trauma and familiarity to that trauma over time? What were the circumstances of the people who answered the questionnaires? Are the marriages based on financial gain? Over time, financial gain increases for couples so that could contribute to feelings of "happiness". Not necessarily love for their partners but due to the betterment of their lifestyles. True love can be confused for many things. It's more complicated than stated in this video.

@coolbreeze5683

7 ай бұрын

@@Boyofway I think that's a part of it. Adaptation and familiarity. Some people like the resignation of not having choices so they're happier by having a path set out for them.

@coolbreeze5683

7 ай бұрын

@@VforVanity10 I said my comment is my opinion. There's no such thing as fact when it comes to relationships. There is no formula as to what will work and what will not due to the fickle nature of humans. I never trust anyone who talks about how educated they are since I know how flawed academic research can be compared to reality.

@ariyuh

7 ай бұрын

Exactly. I'm the daughter of an arranged marriage. My aunt had one, my uncles had them, my grandmother had one, etc. They all stay together not because they want to, but rather because they have to. Which is why when studying this concept it's important to actually investigate into why the couples stay together or don't.

Thank you. I loved the four questions. Falling in love feels like abandoning all your criteria and replacing it with intense attachment and a need for reciprocation. That's madness. I love MV Summers advice on this: _So the next time you are tempted to want to be in love with someone who you probably don’t know at all, ask yourself, “Am I willing to go through a lot of disappointment over this?” And better at the outset than 20 years later._ ... I'm sure I'm not the only one here burned...

Basically wait till after infatuation stage to make proper and sane choice to marry.

Ive been a therapist for 12 years. Couples' problems are always the same: A) Courting period, first 60 days of relationship, he leaves dishes in the sink, she leaves clothes on the bathroom floor and stuff all over counter. Neither partner cares and willingly and happily helps the other clean the area. Tolerance level scale 1-10=10. B) 2 years into relationship, both partners start arguments. She yells at him for leaving dishes in sink. He yells at her for leaving stuff all over the bathroom. Tolerance level scale 1-10=2. The problem is now easily identified. The male and female are shown their nonsensical behaviors and it is up to the couple now to realize if they live each other, all they must do is tolerate each other's shortcomings and be willing to help/love each other after 2 years as they helped/loved each other in the first 60 days. The individual flaws differ from couple to couple, but these 2 flaws i used are easy to understand. If couples are willing to use this treatment method of learning tolerance, they can be much more considerate and thoughtful towards each other and their lives improve and i love to hear them tell me they felt silly for not being able to identify that problem and figure out how to fix themselves when it was such an easy fix.

@andy764

7 ай бұрын

I would add a few more points to this. It is [very] important to look and see right at the problem at the beginning rather than bury it under "love": the dishes in the sink, the clothes on the bathroom floor. Instead of tolerating it, have a conversation about it and try to arrive at an agreement which both can live with. Tolerance has its limit and any issue, small or big, might be the last straw on the camel's back. Consequently, it is (also very) important to grow and improve yourself along the way with your relationship, rather than merely relying on it. If it's your dishes, put them into the washer, if it's your clothes, put them into the washing machine; that's care and that's how you keep your home in order. Family can only be your home and your sanctuary when you build it, together.

@alexadellastella5247

3 ай бұрын

Sad then .... nothi g like this with my partner. This is so childish! We have issues since we are neurodivergent but we talk and try to understand and find solutions then... and we have been together for 13 years

There are Different Kinds (..almost degrees and stages) of Love

Couldn't have been a better time for this talk to come out. I'll be making a more informed decision. Thank you!

If the goal is to prevent divorce, don't get married. 100% efficacy rate.

@someutubchannel69

7 ай бұрын

You're not wrong at all!!!!

@mg79277

7 ай бұрын

All depends on what your core beliefs are on marriage

@bestbehave

7 ай бұрын

@@mg79277no it doesn’t. The OP stated the precise, “if the goal is to prevent divorce” Your core beliefs matter not one jot, apart from anything they change over time, and they’re highly unlikely to start and then grow along the same path as the other person

This is amazing information. Definitely something to really consider with such an important choice in your life.

With my husband 4 years before marriage. Married now almost 18 years and raising 2 kids together.

The illusion of love is parallel to the illusion of free will, which is why you can't control who you find attractive or not.

Strong, instilled beliefs can also be a factor for arranged marriages like a religious or political view you are brought up into to.

Superb, thank you.

Bear in mind that arranged marriages- modern or not - are less likely to end in divorce due to stigma.

'tis better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all.

My advice was always to live with the person for three years then decide. The bad traits cannot be changed either learn to live with those faults or don’t marry.,

Many thanks for your useful sharings to all. All the best!

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Interesting, does this factor in that leaving an arranged marriage can result in being ostricised by family. Also what about the fear of honour killings.

Thank you for Talk!Romantic and Marriage as HONEY!But as can we to mix Honey,...and we go till in divorce🙏

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7 ай бұрын

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@reyfairburn5023

7 ай бұрын

Marriage is not religious for everyone. Just because you're religious doesn't mean your worldview is somehow more correct or superior than others. I've seen religious marriages fail and non-religious marriages thrive. Didn't your holy book say not to judge others?

He’s comparing data from 3rd world countries and cultures where religious and societal mores force people into relationships which prioritise material inheritance preservation with societies which prioritise freedom of choice and love.

@ahmedmaniyaruni4300

7 ай бұрын

I am from one such country. This might have been the norm before but now there is only an unspoken social and societal pressure for a couple to stay together and I don't see that as a bad thing. There are avenues for divorce, and people do divorce but it's simply highly discouraged. Force is almost never involved. I am from a conservative muslim family. We certainly don't prioritise anything material. We prioritise the wellbeing of each partner, children, and overall societal stability. I personally think that western cultures trust freedom of choice too much. People are idiots. We simply prefer to trust God, family, and time-honored institutions instead. Personal choice is important, and marriage is never done without consent or mutual attraction, but it's not overemphasised like it is in the west.

What does it mean - no gender?

He Keeps talking about the benefit of waiting longer to make a commitment but if having kids is a main goal, the woman's reproductive clock must also be taken into account .

@Sotanath86q

7 ай бұрын

not really, rushing into ruining kids lives by bringing them into a relationship that isn't ready, is simply selfish

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