I watched the Legend of Korra for the first time last year, after being a huge ATLA fan since I was a kid. I had avoided it for a long time because of the negative reputation it had. I wish I had given it a chance sooner, but I'm sort of glad that I watched it as an adult. I feel like the themes and Korra's character resonated with me more as a young adult trying to figure things out.

@thegoldman25

6 ай бұрын

I couldn't agree more!

@ShadowDashh

6 ай бұрын

No korra is trash and will always be trash

@Cinnamowo

6 ай бұрын

Same! Just finished Korra after trying to start watching it like three times over the years, and I watched ATLA like 12 times, and it was quite the journey

@discobroccoli198

6 ай бұрын

@@ShadowDashhNo one asked you

@anttirintamaki1710

6 ай бұрын

​@@ShadowDashhyou are trash

I think a big factor is Team Avatar basically lived together, every hour of everyday. They were like family

@christopherbennett5858

Ай бұрын

Meanwhile, it feels like Korra’s gang only came about because they were vaguely similar to the previous series’ main characters and the creators rested on their laurels.

Also Vaatu and Ravaa being described as “good vs evil” was the first mistake. Describing them as “order and chaos” would’ve made more sense, and could’ve been used as a better narrative thread for the season.

@caydengarvey657

5 ай бұрын

That is the case though. Vaatu will continue to grow within Ravaa and by extension Korra. Vaatu wants to bring about centuries of chaos.

@LuisGustavoSO

5 ай бұрын

​@@caydengarvey657right. In future reincarnations the writers should explore the Avatar's morals and balance with Vaatu being inside them. I also like the fan theory that once Vaatu is born, the Avatar would be twins (light and dark), it could create a very interesting dynamic.

@icarue993

5 ай бұрын

Another possible use would have been that the avatar has BOTH Ravaa and Vaatu. Both good and evil lies inside the avatar and is the struggle to maintain balance that leads the avatar to be as powerful as they are.

@ottoww289

5 ай бұрын

@@icarue993That could work better if they were order and chaos and maybe when the first Avatar defeated chaos order became to powerful and he needed to take the power of both of them. And maybe Unalock wanted to become a new Avatar with only order rather than just an evil Avatar

@icarue993

5 ай бұрын

@@ottoww289 or maybe they take different extremes with each iteration. Granted, chaos and order fit both Aang and Kora. I'd argue that Aang is more chaotic at the beginning, with Korra being more Lawful, granted, her "laws" but still.

your reasoning for not including suki makes complete sense and that's the thing; every member of team korra feels like suki. they all have connections to korra but none to each other. they feel like coworkers who are around each other because they happen to work at the same place, not because they actually value each others company

@MrKingYuji

5 ай бұрын

Suki is a member of the team but she is not a protagonist: she didn’t have a character arc, a theme or a narrative role. She was just a cool character that Sokka was dating, and she only joined the last four episodes.

@LuisGustavoSO

5 ай бұрын

The thing is that the 5 members of the Gaang are the main characters, in Korra they aren't the only main characters. Tenzin, Lin, Suyin and even Varrick are just as important. It's just a different show, with different dynamics a different focus.

@Rambrus0

5 ай бұрын

@@LuisGustavoSOIf your main character has less importance to a story than Suki then you have a useless character.

@LuisGustavoSO

5 ай бұрын

@@Rambrus0 ? Which main character I mentioned has less importance than Suki?

@Rambrus0

5 ай бұрын

@@LuisGustavoSO Bolin? or how his name is spelled. He only was useful in season 3. Other than that he didnt do anything remotely important, otherthan beeing a not funny Sokka

I kinda like the odd friendship between Bolin and Asami. They hang out with each other the most outside of Mako and Korra respectively, the people they tend to get paired with most frequently. It's not anything super deep, but it provides some nice contrast between their upbringings and leads to some humorous moments

@Ayh3ma

3 ай бұрын

I think that was the closest to toph and sokka that we got

As I got older, I resonated with Korra's inability to move forward from the attempted poisoning, as she dragged her feet through life, holding onto resentment and feeling weak. The idea we're not the same after trauma is true, but we can still relearn strength. Thinking you can't be strong again is precisely what holds you back.

@lainiwakura1776

3 ай бұрын

I mean, she kept getting reset every season, so her being poisoned doesn't mean anything.

@Divisyon474

3 ай бұрын

That’s so true, that why I loved TLOK. I mean.. have you even seen a main character/superhero in a wheel chair? That was powerful. My favorite season is number 4 because of the healing process Korra goes through

@beasdas4799

Ай бұрын

​@@lainiwakura1776 someone who hasn't watched the show comes to give an opinion? Wow

@SatanEnjoyer

12 күн бұрын

​@@lainiwakura1776 🤡

I think something that was awesome about Korra that sets it apart from ATLA is just how intimidating the villains she faces are. Aang always held back when fighting and only really had to go all out against ozai and sometimes azula for the most part, and Amon, Zahir, and Kuvira being arguably the best benders of their respective type was a great thematic way to challenge the Korra as the Avatar, a person usually seen physically unparalleled Edit: my phone always auto corrects Korra’s name to Korea

@dannyphantom3090

6 ай бұрын

Yeah aside from azula or ozai none of aang villains were really threatening and I never really felt like aang life was in danger but korra her villains especially for a nickelodeon show were very menacing and scary.

@LuisGustavoSO

5 ай бұрын

​@@dannyphantom3090Ozai himself was very underwhelming. Azula is amazing though.

@Rambrus0

5 ай бұрын

yeah. But Amon was wasted as fck. They didnt even had to fight him. Amon took a punch from Korra then ran away without a fight and “oh brother i love you so much”… like fck off thats lame and out of the blue.

@neutronalchemist3241

4 ай бұрын

Ozai was not a great villain. Because we've never seen him acting. The only time he fought before the last fight with Aang, his lightning had been redirected by Zuko (who also ostensibly didn't fear him in a non-bending fight), and we know Iroh thought a fight between them would have gone 50-50, so he doesn't give the impression of being such a Juggernaut. One of the reasons why the final agni-kai is so much more satisfying, besides the psychological drama of the fight between brothers, is because we've always seen Azula as invincible. Unfortunately LOK villains lack in the other department. They never grow beyond being cartoonishly "bad guys". Their ideas may have had some merit, but they are only extremists. In this, all of them are "Ozai". While, in ATLA, team Zuko and Team Azula were part of the family. You knew MANY things about their lives, and why they acted like they did. Even Jet was written better than the best villain of LOK. The worse is in the first book. Where the chi-blockers are only an army of faceless minions, led by a masked guy that only in the final episode is revealed to be a never heard before brother of another character (who was revealed to be a bloodbender, son of anoter bloodbender we've never heard before, three episodes before). It cant' be shallower than that. Why should we care of those guys?

@omage3457

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, the villains in TLOK go so hard. Just a shame the main character is so unlikable and garbage.

About the short cuts you mentioned that the writers took in season 4: the writers had to sacrifice one episode (which became the recap episode) because of sudden budget cuts by Nickelodeon. Seriously, Nickelodeon did they best to sabotage TLOK at every turn, not realizing at all what they have with the Avatar Universe.

@literatemax

5 ай бұрын

Yeah it was either make a recap episode or fire animators. They chose not to fire people.

@icarue993

5 ай бұрын

I would have loved Korra so much if it wasn't for Nick. Having a known number of episodes and having more time to develop Korasami (I think back then, same sex couples were a nono in tv) would have made the series maybe even better than ATLA. A well developed cast tackling the mature themes they tackled would have been amazing. Yet again... I was not super happy with Dragon Prince. I feel Korra S3-4 were better than Dragon Prince S1-3.

@sirnetflix7162

4 ай бұрын

@@icarue993 Same sex couples weren't exactly unheard of back then, but the issue for me is that they focused WAY too much on the romance in Korra. Sure, the original series had bits of it here and there and some touching moments, but it was never at the forefront of any plot. At the end of the day, budget cuts or no, bad is bad, and the romance in the show was God awful. Korra bounced partners like nobodies business and it was annoying.

@notthefbi7015

4 ай бұрын

I disagree while Nick's meddling certainly didn't help Korra as a show isn't that good. The characters don't feel like friends, character growth seems to be all over the place with Korra literally learning the same damn lesson every season. The main relationship entirely underdeveloped and a lot of them feeling very one note.

@omage3457

4 ай бұрын

@@sirnetflix7162agreed. I also think her falling in love with Asami is forced because we don’t really see it happen.

LoK is certainly flawed, but I still love so much of it. Season 2 is the only one that I would considered truly subpar, but Season 3 and 4 stepped up quite a bit. Even with Season 2, there's some good stuff, the animation in general, Iroh's scenes, getting to see more of the spirit world. While part of this may be because of the shows somewhat troubled behind the scenes issues, we still have to take the show as it is. While it's not as good as Avatar, I still love the show, and think it gets too much hate not only for its mistakes, but partly because so many people were expecting a show just like Avatar and didn't get that.

@Rambrus0

5 ай бұрын

true. I think the hate comes from tge first two season. I almost stopped watching but i was told the third season is great. So i continoued and season 3 felt like i wacthed ATLA again. It was really great

Damn, it’s been 10 years? I’m old asf

@thegoldman25

6 ай бұрын

closer to 9 technically but 10 years later sounds better

@sgjoyder2890

2 ай бұрын

Well it's been 12 years since it came out but almost 10 years since the last season came out!

I always thought that Korra cries at the end of season 3 because of the resemblance of Jinora and Aang. Like Korra seeing Aang getting congrats, while she has failed over and over and will never accomplished the respect that Aang did.

@thegoldman25

6 ай бұрын

not a bad take

Damn time flys by... how has it been 10 year since korra. I remember being super excited to see a follow up show of avatar finally getting released

@legofishjpeg

4 ай бұрын

i was literally four years old when it came out but somehow i agree with you. i remember being excited to watch the new avatar episodes like it was yesterday but now I'm in high school and disappointed in the new live action adaptation. time is weird.

The first time I saw ‘The Legend of Korra’ on Nickelodeon many years ago, I wasn’t a big fan because it felt different. But now, as an adult and rewatching the entire series, I can genuinely say I love the show.

The idea of Vaatu and Raava isn't even a bad idea and could have played into the themes of everything not being so black and white like you said. Having their be two different spirits each representing a difference in role and personality could have also been a great way to both subvert expectations and helped with Korra's arc of learning that not everything is black and white. When Korra meets Raava and Vaatu for the first time of course sides with Raava because she's supposed to be the embodiment of all good but after working with her for a bit she has a realization that Raava's methods are flawed regardless of how well intention it might be. This would also be a great way to trick the audience inot thinking this is just going to be a classic story between good vs evil but then turns into something more complex. Then she meets Vaatu and has realization that while Vaatu's methods might be cruel and unjust they are a necessary evil and do have some positive outcomes. After working with both of them this could also help in trying to find a balance between the Northern and Southern Water Tribes. And in the final battle between Raava and Vaatu they both try to convince Korra to choose a side but rather than doing that she finds some kind of middle ground that keeps them both of them in balance.

@berengustav7714

6 ай бұрын

"Good and evil are simplistic views,instead see things as Order and Chaos."

@twizms7362

5 ай бұрын

But no lol "dArK aVaTaR"

@hughmungus431

3 ай бұрын

That's exactly how it did play out and you've listened to too many midwits on KZread headcannon something that was never in the show

Amon is a critique of populism and the cult of personality not communism. He doesn’t care about economics or redistribution or the idea of a stateless society. He even teams up with the richest man in Republic City which is not what a communist would do but rather what a populist would do. Mustache Man in WW2 is a great example of this as he had the support of many of the richest men and women in Germany at the time.

@SuhailGanondorf1999Singh

4 ай бұрын

I was trying to figure out a way to explain how Amon is definitely not communist, and you nailed it. Amon very much aligns himself with capital, and the focus on the non-bender/bender dynamic over a class based politics makes it feel more opportunist. Amon definitely uses fair left wing critique of the bending dominated government similar to how the Nazis would use socialist messaging in their propaganda, but by the end of the season, it’s shown that Amon, like the Nazis, did not care about that inherit inequality in the world, he just wanted that to benefit him and his cronies. If Amon is a communist, he’s a very lousy communist

@ZancoIntel

2 ай бұрын

THANK YOU. I was confused at the communism comparison. For some reason, people are focusing on communism, and blaming capitalism for society's hardship. It's some large corporate capitalism, not all capitalism.

@SatanEnjoyer

12 күн бұрын

EXACTLY, the way this writer is so wrong about what he's talking about is a reflection of how western education has failed us

To be fair, Korra couldn't develop relationships because of the limitations in episode number. Last Airbender had so many "filler" episodes in order to do that.

@Rambrus0

5 ай бұрын

yeah but that still doesnt explain things like certain things that were not foreshadowed at all, just happen for the sake of the plot. Atla was well tooght out, a masterclass in writing. While Korra was for the most part mid. Its crazy that the creators were the same. Also it doesnt explain why you resonate with Atla from episode 3, while you need 2 seasons of Korra to not have a Korra carries everything feeling

@Eh.........

5 ай бұрын

still a better relationship bonding than in the Avatar the live action

@Rambrus0

5 ай бұрын

@@Eh......... thats not an argument.

@DJCheese77

5 ай бұрын

atla has only one filler episode tho- The tales of Ba Sing Se

@LaReganto

5 ай бұрын

Filler? ATLA has only 2 filler episodes.

I really like your interpretation on the end of season 3 because when i 1st watched i was also confused on why she's crying i just assumed because of s4 she was reflecting on how all her villains have damaged her and there's even a edited clip on KZread showing that. But yeah it does make sense korra loves being the avatar and even though it wasn't tenzin intention he basically said we don't need you.

@thegoldman25

6 ай бұрын

it cuts deep!

@aalllllllexx

6 ай бұрын

I think too it's probably a combination of a lot of huge conflicting emotions for Korra. She's sad that she's not needed while being happy for jinora while also in pain from what she just experienced. She has this almost wistful smile that makes me think it's a little bit more than just straight sadness.

The main differences between the 2 are that ATLA is a character driven story where Korra is a plot driven story. I wish they had focused more on the characters in Korra, not just the main characters, but also the villians. This is the real reason people don't like Korra as much as they do ATLA. Because things happen simply because the writers say they do and not because we actively see the characters growing, changing and making decisions. The character's choices are plot devices instead of being built upon the character's growth and individual story.

@Unhappytimeaper

4 ай бұрын

It's say this is the biggest thing and partly that's exactly why it fails for so many people. When you're known for doing amazing character arcs and analysis it's really hard to watch it be sidelined for the growth of only the main character [who even then focuses heavily on a lot of flaws that don't often get shown the better side]. I think personally LOK also suffers from having so many characters and their dynamics be at the focus without always trying to do more for it; it's like once establishing that we want to see how generations impact it can very easily become overwhelming to want to include it all which for how short LOK actually is there is a sense where I'd rather have condensed down parts of the growing cast to focus in. Adding in so many romance plots, not focusing on establishing solid character journeys for at least the main cast outside of Korra, and even not fully realizing it plot arcs all the way through [something I think because there was such a good grasp on the characters from the start always made it so outcomes were met, and in LOK things are just resolved because they need to be] all tend to limit LOK in a way that doesn't make it a bad show but holds it back.

I really love the Legend of Korra. Especially because how it adresses depression.

It’s a actually a pretty good show on its own. The problem is it’s hard for people not to compare it to ATLA which I understand but it’s a completely different avatar with a different personality in a different era. I’ll acknowledge the writing isn’t as good but the fight scenes and the choreography are amazing and it has some really great moments. It’s not one cohesive story like ATLA, each season has its own story. I’ve always loved the show having watched it for the first time as a kid and even more now as an adult. I try to separate it from ATLA and not get too hung up on the comparisons.

@thegoldman25

6 ай бұрын

good point. ATLA is one of the best shows of all time. Just because TLoK is not in that conversation doesn't mean it isn't good

@oreohunter7798

5 ай бұрын

It also murders the ATLA canon…

@kolbturtle

4 ай бұрын

I feel like if they did just three things then I wouldn’t hate it as bad. 1 character development, i feel like the characters just don’t change and it felt like if they do it’s a temporary change that doesn’t last. 2 character relationships, if they gave more time with the characters actually doing something other than solely driving plot then the show would immediately be better to me and solve some problems others have with it. 3 not destroying the link to past avatars, past avatars are the most important to me because there are so many stories and wisdom that can be told through them and they are fan favorites and cutting them out of the story felt like the writers didn’t like the previous series and wanted a wall between the new show and previous lore of the world

@racool911

4 ай бұрын

@@oreohunter7798In what way? For the most part it improved the canon

@Name-uv6kz

4 ай бұрын

@@racool911 like the setting? the world building being based on Asian and Arctic aesthetics? the ideologies being based on Taoism and Buddhist teachings? the themes?

I actually really like Korra, not as much as ATLA but I still quite enjoy it. I found season 1, 3, and 4 to be good but I really didn't like season 2, mostly cus I don't like the villain or the main conflicted. I feel like the world in Korra is actually a good progression to the world in ATLA and I love most of the villains. I honestly feel like the only bid down side of legend of Korra is the main group. As you said in your video of ATLA, the relashionships between every single character were very well developed but In Korra the four of them are never together except for when they first meet, plus the whole love triangle really destroyed the group dynamic

@stewhv94

6 ай бұрын

I agree about season 2, but I did really enjoy the two part story about Avatar Wan and the whole origins of bending. And we got to see Iron again. So even the weakest season had some bright spots.

@peteryanes3413

6 ай бұрын

No one like 2 is bad n dumb

@speranzapecchini7001

6 ай бұрын

@@stewhv94 I like Avatar Wan and the way the world used to be, and I even like that there was an entity for light and darkness. I just don't like the whole final fight to be good vs bad, especially after the whole point of ATLA is that it's much more complicated than that

@waynehe8945

6 ай бұрын

This is exactly how I feel!

In my opinion, the first villain of Amon and his thing isn’t about communism, because communism is is an economic stature. Well, there might be subtle hints of the wealth. It doesn’t help that one of the wealthiest people in the world is on the sides of the communist. It’s more like a subtle coup of the status quo but also they need to show more of the oppression to fully get the message across that this is, a rebellion of sorts

@thegoldman25

6 ай бұрын

very good points

@KingKrafted03

6 ай бұрын

I have seen so many reviews of this series where they call it mediocre or terrible with good bits. I am not a critic like others may be I just like content unless it’s not connected or makes sense

@hughmungus431

3 ай бұрын

Communism absolutely is NOT an economic system. It's a moral 1. They make moral judgement upon those who work hard and struggle to achieve opulence while indulging their worst instincts of jealousy and greed. They praise Cain and they heap moral judgement upon Abel in a sick twisted and disgusting inversion of true morality.

At 58:32 You said Korra instead of Kuvira, which is funny since the writers wanted them to be alike, not just in name but in personality, Kuvira is a lot like Korra in season 2, but now Korra isnt like herself in that time.

Verrick aka Tony stark was my favorite character by the end

@thegoldman25

6 ай бұрын

he did a lot of bad shit, but he's still hilarious

@KawaiiJackHonne

4 ай бұрын

​@@thegoldman25 DO THE THING

@segampharos2086

4 ай бұрын

​@@thegoldman25allegedly

Season Two: How great would it have been if Unalaq was increasingly portrayed as a fundamentalist and authoritarian religious type? I mean, that seems to be what the initial concept was? And what if the weird simplistic dualism that creeps in was actually just his interpretation of things-given that fundamentalist religion is generally built on such foundations-that he slowly gets Korra on board with at first, but that she comes to ultimately reject through embracing complexity and dynamic balance. Like, what sold Vatuu, like Heibai, turned out to be Ravva’s lost partner? Who got angry and confused and needs help? And so the Korra ultimately becomes a more complete Avatar by healing Vatuu and bring them back into dynamic relationship with Ravva and… what do you know, there’s the whole theme of romantic relationships, socio-political relationships, etc. creeping back in! And how about, in such healing, she helps Unalaq see that, while his critiques of commodification and lack of discipline or whatever had a point, he was trying to create a static balance instead of a dynamic one? And then to pare that storyline with Korra not having her full bending (except maybe while in the Avatar State) and the beginning-which would also justify her being an asshole to everyone and blowing up her relationships-and Unalaq manipulating her into his dualism with the promises you suggest… yeah, that would’ve been solid!

@jeffmiller6025

6 ай бұрын

And as an addendum: There is “good” and “evil” per se in East Asian yin/yang based philosophies: Dynamic balance is “good” (think rising a skateboard), while static balance (think balanced scales that never change) or static imbalance is “evil.” You see this play out in, for example, Chinese demonology, in which demons (read: evil spirits) are not inherently evil, but evil by virtue of (usually) static imbalance (and occasionally static balance). This was beautifully exemplified in ATLA, while Korra definitely lost the thread. I bring this up, however, to call out an issue in your analysis: There also isn’t “morally grey” in East Asian philosophies, either. There are complexities in how dynamic balance plays out (indeed, one of the chief selling points of such philosophies is how they allow space for such complexities), but “morally grey” as a concept relies heavily on the one-dimensional simplicity of understanding ethics and balance in the image of the “scales of justice” or similar concepts. Such one-dimensionality relies on such a dualistic struggle between ontological good and ontological evil, as exemplified in season two of TLoK.

Bolin has a pretty strong relationship with everyone on the team. Asami and bolin spend lots of time together and even have a convo about mako amd korra. What do you define a deep conversation. Lol also tenzin undergoes a drastic character arc realizing he is not his father nor is meant to be. He had to seperate himself from who he thought he should be.

I wish there had been more nuance with Korra in season 2 because I actually really liked that Korra had a bitch era. She was a teenager unlike Aang so having her be shity for a bit is great in theory. She has uncontrollable hormons and insane amounts of power so there is a fun dynamic to play with there, I just don't think the writers achieved that unfortunately. Great video thanks for all the effort! Gonna go do a Korra rewatch now 😊

@ShadowDashh

6 ай бұрын

and even after the show she never gets better she stays a bitch

What I am most upset about is the idea of Korra disconnecting her past lives of the Avatars, including Aang himself. How can either she or the next reincarnations gain some wisdom from their predecessors? That is what makes me stop watching this show after the end of season 2.

Season 1: I don't know if this was the writers' intention, but I think the Equalists are more comparable with race or other identity politics than they are with Communism. They also illustrate the idea that those who believe themselves marginalized aren't always the good guys. Sometimes those who cry oppression are looking from a skewed perspective, or straight up lying. Aside from the Triads (who are a problem for everyone weaker than them), there is no evidence of systemic non-bender oppression. We don't see them denied jobs, or the right to vote, or due process (until Tarlokk's emergency measures). The Equalists' main argument is "You can bend while we can't, and that's just not fair!" Season 2: I mostly agree with your perspective on this season, but I liked Korra's reconciliation with her father. Not often that you see the hero overwhelmed with relief that they DIDN'T have to beat somebody up. Oh and at 25:38, again you say that the past Avatars told Aang he had to kill Ozai. As I pointed out in the previous video's comment: NONE OF THEM SAID THIS. Sorry to keep harping on this but It's one of my favorite scenes in the series and I hate seeing it misrepresented. Team Avatar: I really hated the soup opera drama with Korra and her TA. And the way she treated Mako, without ever apologizing or even being called out for it, nearly wrecks her character for me. I feel a bit guilty about it now, but my initial thoughts about her going through PTSD was that she really needed a humble pie to the face. Season 3: Nothing to add here, a good season with though-provoking villains. Season 4: Good ideas, but Kuvira was too cartoonish, and also the walking mechs were jumping the shark. I also wish than when Korra got her mojo back, she made up with Mako and apologized for her rotten attitude.

I love that the legend of Korra doesn't retread the same story from the original show. The world building is emphasized more, the villains all have understandable motives but have messed up ways of achieving their goals. Still by the shows conclusion Peace is achieved in a way that amon, unalak, Zaheer, and kaveera All would have probably agreed with. Very cool IMO. Correction: not so much unalak my bad, still love the show though.

@kelleygreengrass

3 ай бұрын

I just started watching it for the first time. The animation is far superior. I'm enjoying it so far.

I personally don't mind the concept of a dark avatar because I believe it would've been a fantastic way to reveal that the Avatar, the ultimate arbiter of balance, was fundamentally out of balance all along. And has been for ten thousand years. Sure, with Raava's vessel at the helm the world had order and relative "peace" - the 100 year war not withstanding, but order and peace came at the cost of progress. Subsequently every nation was kept in a state of relative stagnation. Which could add another underlying element to why Roku was so against Sozen's ambitions to expand. Maybe tweak it so Unalaq's plan to help Korra restore her bending was to have the Avatar merge with Vaatu to force the Avatar spirit back into balance. As for why Vaatu is 'evil' - well, of course he's pissed. Raava is his other half and he got cut off from her. When La lost Tui, he went absolutely berserk and destroyed an entire navy and that was for only a couple minutes at most. Vaatu's been trapped for 10k years! His fury would be unending.

I haven't watched this show in years. But I remember really liking it. I do remember feeling like the second season was so much bigger than seasons 3 and 4 tho. Like subject matter wise. Like the bad guy in season 2's power level was way beyond Season 3 and 4s villains. It would be like Goku going from Frieza to Buu. Then going back to the androids and Cell. It's been awhile tho, so perhaps it's time for a rewatch. Awesome video man.

I wish I liked or enjoyed Korra half as much as I love Avatar: The Last Airbender. There's just too many flaws for me to enjoy. I struggled to just finishing each season. Season three was the best but also has issues and it wasn't enough to make me like the show. Season two Sigh. I hate it! just ruins and breaks too many things. I choice to ignore and act like it didn't happen... Season 4 is good, though I think it rushes through too many things. I could easily go on and on way I didn't like it but will keep it short. I don't mind people liking the show and saying they think its good. Each to their own. I do struggle when people say its great or as good as the Last Airbender. I just don't understand or able to comprehend it. Anyways. Good video. Enjoyed watching and listening to someone point out way they liked the show. I love hearing different views and opinions.

@twizms7362

5 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more. I think season 3 is the best as well other than avatar Wan and the origin of the avatar. I hated that

@kelleygreengrass

3 ай бұрын

I'm watching for the first time. The animation is definitely way better.

This and your 15 year avatar video deserve so many more views, and can see them growing over time. Exceptional and impressive work, keep it up.

@thegoldman25

5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoyed the videos!

I was blessed enough to watch ATLA AND LOK side by side growing up. ATLA would do its reruns at 7 am on weekdays and LOK would air literally at 7:30 so I was blessed to have both shows at once to understand the importance of the chronological timeline of this universe.

Such a well made video, so much of the analysis is very in depth and bringing up ideas that I had never considered even after being a long time fan. One thing is at 47:31. When you say that you don’t think the Earth Kingdom would fall into chaos that quickly. I was thinking that this was showing how weak the Queen’s government was because she was so narcissistic or disconnected that she believed her kingdom was strong when it was far from it. And that there was so much dislike of the Queen that the people just needed that one action for a few people to start the chaos then it exploded exponentially. That being said, the chaos and immediate fires at just about every block do seem very exaggerated. But either way, still great analysis as always 👍

If I can sum up Legend of Korra with one phrase, it would be "missed opportunity". They had a great setup with Amon in Season 1, a great setup with Unalaq in Season 2, a great setup with Kuvira in Season 4, yet failed to properly resolve any of them. The only kinda satisfying ending was with the Red Lotus in Season 3, but even then the heroes weren't really forced to deal with the ideology of their opponents in a real way, which should be the point of villains with "good intentions", but they end up being resolved with a boss fight anyway. Antagonists are there to challenge the hero, either externally, like Sauron or Ozai from ATLA, forcing them to grow and overcome them; or internally, like what they're trying to accomplish with LOK. However, this failure to present the characters with this internal struggle of whether "the antagonist is right" leads to a disconnect between the story and the plot, and leads to most of the character progression feeling forced, or weid, or rushed.

@ezracohen6020

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, every single season has a great premise and then screws it up (3rd excluded), the first season talking about non-bender inequality was good, but it wasn’t shown as much as told, and the one big time we are shown oppression with the curfew is a response to the equalists, and by the end everything is resolved because the leader is a hypocrite so we don’t need to deal with any consequences, also, the entire time it sets up a need for spirituality to airbend and then she unlocks it through selflessness, which is very actively not what we were told she would need, season two I think had the best premise of any season, a civil war between the north and the south, not black and white issues that the avatar might not be able to solve, spirituality in a new world, and how taking no side can be siding with the oppressor, yes please, give me more of all of that, and then the entire thing derails itself, funnily enough I think season three had the worst premise, I don’t like how harmonic convergence just made a new Airbenders and effortlessly undid a genocide but the rest of the season did everything, amazingly, and season four had an ok premise, but then went too far showing how kuvira was evil which took away all nuance and turned the plotline of some of team avatar siding with her from one that could be interesting to one of the characters just being deceived, I also hate the fact that it devolved into a giant mech fight

@ezracohen6020

6 ай бұрын

My biggest issue with the show will always be how they made changes to the world of avatar that often contradicted the original series and felt disrespectful to the original show, but that’s one of the other big ones

@KaiHung-wv3ul

6 ай бұрын

@@ezracohen6020 You're right. Especially with the spirits.

@ezracohen6020

6 ай бұрын

@@KaiHung-wv3ul yeah, everything relating to spirits is the biggest example of that, but there’s also how they broke every single rule established for bloodbending, and a lot of other smaller things throughout the show, even if the legend of Korra was entirely separate from avatar I would dislike the show (there are a whole host of issues that I have with the show), but I certainly wouldn’t hate it as much as I do, a sequel series should build on the world that already exists in ways that makes sense as a continuation from the original, not just change things for the convenience of the story it wants to tell and certainly not doing so in a way that feels disrespectful to the original

@johnnybaxter8078

Ай бұрын

@@ezracohen6020 What rule did they break about bloodbending?

Not only is the fact that a nonbender president replaced the all bender council kind of a copout, *it wasn't even an all bender council* The fact that in season 1 all members of it were benders was a complete coincidence, we see in a flashback that Sokka was once a councilman, in fact he was the chairman of the council. This means that it was entirely possible for nonbenders to gain significant political power in the UR well before Raiko was elected. Sure, you could argue that nonbenders we're necessarily barred from holding office, and instead it was just much harder for them due to systemic bigotry and bias in the voterbase. But I would argue that's a moot point, since it goes completely unaddressed in the text.

@Stahlwald

6 ай бұрын

This is a good analysis Did you agree with his interpretation that the Equalists were an allegory for communism? I think he was way off.

@joshuasgameplays9850

6 ай бұрын

@@Stahlwald I do believe that it's at least partially based on communism, but I'm not very confident the writers ever intended for it to be a 1:1 allegory. If it WAS meant to be a direct allegory, they did a pretty bad job.

@vetarlittorf1807

6 ай бұрын

Actually it was an all bender council after Sokka died.

@joshuasgameplays9850

6 ай бұрын

@@vetarlittorf1807 iPad kid level reading comprehension.

@vetarlittorf1807

6 ай бұрын

@@joshuasgameplays9850 No. You said the council wasn't benders-only, but it was. For all we know, Sokka only got his position because of his connection to Aang.

31:49 I disagree with your take on the group dynamic in LoK. Having a good group dynamic isn’t just about having deep conversations with everyone in the group. In fact I think it’s pretty clear that, that’s not what LoK is going for. LoK focuses more on the characters having fun together and enjoying each others company in different ways rather then all of them trauma dumping on each other. A perfect example of this is Bolin and Asami. They never have a deep conversation but they maintain a good friendship where they both have very different approaches to life and learn from each other. We see this particularly when they were playing Pai-Cho together. Asami says the game is about patience and strategy while Bolin says the game is about being aggressive and moving fast. In the end Asami crushed him in pai-Cho bcs Asami’s approach is better suited for a strategy game but later in the episode the gang gain the trust of some locals thanks to Bolin being a movie star. Which is something that happened because he just kinda jumped at the opportunity without any strategy.

@Rambrus0

5 ай бұрын

you mix real friendships in real life with well written dynamics in story writing

@andrithorkristensson2545

5 ай бұрын

@@Rambrus0 I don’t see how a good dynamic in a story can’t mimic a healthy friendship in real life. Sometimes having characters that just enjoy each other’s company and have each others back without needing to know each others trauma is fine

@michaelthomas9790

4 ай бұрын

My biggest problem with this video is the way in which he talks about the group dynamic. You’re doing from a family-style always together, limited group… to a vast array of characters with all their lives being lived, coming together to accomplish goals. And the way he disregards Korra and Asami’s relationship ignoring that offscreen Korra only wrote to asami because she felt close to her and comfortable enough to talk about everything. But this guy says they weren’t even friends.,,, sure…

LoK wasn't that bad. it was just shafted by the writers with terrible and convoluted writing, that disrespected the original material. it had deep themes too, like the water-bender civil war which was something I was exited to see. only for it to be shit on by the writers thinking 'dark avatar' was a better idea, which ended being absolute shit in every possible way.

@Oceanatornowk

5 ай бұрын

If the writing is bad and terrible then I think we can say the show is bad and terrible. I don’t think the show is completely awful, but bad writing definitely handicaps it a ton.

@zoharshaked726

4 ай бұрын

I don't like how people say "this show disrespects the original material". This IS the original material. It's literally the same crew of writers and people. Sure you can say you don't like it and that's fine, I also think it's very flawed, but it is canon to the world of Avatar, and it is the same crew. It's more "original material" than arguably the Star Wars Sequels.

@nathanaelwaters2509

3 ай бұрын

It wasn't ruined by writers it had major studio tampering

I actually hope that Korra gets to act as a mentor for the next Avatars mission. Wouldn't that be something to see her in a role as a spirit where she can show that she's learned from the past but she still has parts of her personality that we can recognize?

A more interesting explanation as to why the avatar is special and the bridge between the mortal and the spirit realm would have been to make the avatar the valve that helps to regulate the flow of the cosmic/spiritual energy produced by the constant clashing between Vaatu and Raava. And to make this two the actual enbodiments of the trascendent concepts of "order" and "caos", like, not in a black and withe manner. For example, instead of making this two hate eachother, they could have simply stated that the reason they are constantly clashing is not because they hate each other, but because that is the way they are able to conect with each other, plus, in their eyes, the clashing could be actually something closer to ethier rough play or an eternal dance responsable for the constant release and reabsortion of cosmic energy or somethin like that. And in this case, the real reason the avatar is special is because the first avatar saw how outcome of this "cosmic dance" deeply affected everyone, for both good and bad but more impontant, how this whole thing fomented a really instable world for the humans that, as a response, antagonised all spirits. Following this logic, the avatar wold have become the valve of spiritual/cosmic energy to stop the constan conforntation againts spirits, to ensure a more estable and prosper future to humanity and to maintain the balance of the universe without appealing to violence. Making the avatar the representative of both Raava and Vaatu.

My assumption for why they kept the Air Nomads after they got Korra was that they would (assumingely) release them after they ensured Korra was indeed taken out. If Korra somehow broke free, was freed, and got away, the Air Nomads could be a reminder that Korra and Co shouldn’t try anything crazy.

1. Korra getting her bending back never bothered me after 3 seasons of aang learning the elements i honestly wouldn't have been interested in seeing that again i feel that s1 should've had 1 more episode seeing korra trying to navigate the world with only airbending wjth her slowly getting to her lowest point then at the end of the episode have aang show up. 2. I feel like I'm the only person who likes s2 specifically the big kaiju battle i guess I'm a huge superhero fan and love world ending stakes so i guess thats why it's fine. 3. I actually like korra using the avatar state in a petty way because it's a subtle arc through s2 with korra just using the avatar state in every situation because be honest if you could use it whenever you wanted you would. But korra constantly using the avatar state had a consequence with raava being ripped from her and losing the past lives and after she fuses with raava she only uses it twice in s3 one of those instances she was forced to and sparingly in s4.

@thegoldman25

6 ай бұрын

all fair points!

@joshuasgameplays9850

6 ай бұрын

I love kaiju battles too, I just feel like it doesn't belong in Avatar, it's way too wacky and over the top for a mostly grounded fantasy story in my opinion. I like ice cream, I like pizza, but I don't wanna have ice cream on my pizza.

@dannyphantom3090

6 ай бұрын

@joshuasgameplays9850 honestly the reason the kaiju battle didn't bother me was because energybending was never clearly defined so I can believe someone could Astral project using it also it was harmonic convergence where al spiritual energy is at its most powerful so its literally a one time thing that can never happen again.

@jeremybowser7690

6 ай бұрын

Point 1. I agree. Maybe take a few episodes, allow her to become a better and more spiritual air Bender and then gain the Avatar state. Getting it after taking an L seems wrong. Point 2. I disagree. I like Godzilla but that not what I want from Avatar. There is also the world breaking retcons that acompany the spirit Kaiju. Point 3. I half agree. Seeing her be petty is fine, seeing her get the Avatar state without any effort is not. It feels unearned. I hate everything to do with Rava and Vatu.

@vetarlittorf1807

6 ай бұрын

​@@jeremybowser7690There are no retcons.

The best masterpieces are still often flawed, and imo, LoK is a masterpiece. Sadly people had "comparisitis" where they could only compare it to ATLA (which also has plenty of issues on its own but people gloss over those whenever they criticize LoK for some reason), instead of looking at LoK for what it is I'm glad more people are watching/rewatching Korra (especially as adults) and understanding that it has incredible themes and has so much impact if you simply let the show be itself instead of "this isn't ATLA"

@memo57708

5 ай бұрын

While I do agree people tend to gloss over ATLAs flaws It's very, very... ignorant, to dismiss comparisons to ATLA. Korra piggybacks off of ATLA, it references it regularly, uses its characters, affects that story. It is IMPOSSIBLE not to compare them. As for the show itself, the 2 main issues with TLOK compared to ATLA. There's no singular overarching goal that runs in the background. In ATLA you have the final goal, stop the fire nation from taking over the world. The various seasons each have their own separate major plot point, but all of them revolve around that central plot point. The 2nd MAJOR issue with TLOK is the characters compared to ATLA. Team Korra don't have relationships between each other like Team Aang. But even worse than that Korra as a character, her progression will give you whiplash, because it feels like she gets a hard reset every single damn season. So while TLOK is far from a bad show. While ATLA has plenty of flaws. Korra is treated harsher by fans for good reason.

@cameronmilhouse740

4 ай бұрын

@@memo57708i do not think its fair bc of the restriction Nick was putting on the LOK, if they were able to have like 20 episodes per season I think they show which i thought was great wouldn’t been more vastly loved, I will say in the LOK i personally thought Amon and Zaheer were better villains than Ozai, until that final episode they were more relevant during there seasons than Ozai was in any of ATLA and I do think rn if there was a kid who watched ATLA and the LOK he would pick the LOL but my girlfriend who is 21 I convinced her to watch both shows and she liked the LOK way better than ATLA and when I asked her reasoning she said that the LOK felt like a more mature show for her while she still liked ATLA she said she feels like that would capture a child’s attention more easily but the LOK seemed more her vibe bc the age of korra and she also liked how there was a variety of likeable characters, so while my view point might be biased she was someone who hadn’t seen any of these and felt like the LOK defentiley fits an older audience

@sirmenace8161

4 ай бұрын

@@memo57708korra getting a “reset” to her character every season is definitely a stretch. I only felt like that happened during S2 S3-4 her character definitely felt more mature, reasonable & felt like she was growing into her role as an avatar & a leader. Definitely a step up from how she was in S1

Just finished the series two days ago. Impeccable timing before this video uploads! 😊👌

@afattestmerc

6 ай бұрын

whatd you think of it after finishing it?

@wickdaline8668

6 ай бұрын

@@afattestmerc Not as good as TLA but still a blast.

@afattestmerc

6 ай бұрын

@@wickdaline8668 thats about how i felt about it lol

I remember really liking Korra when I first saw it, and then I started absolutely hating it a few years later, but now my view on it is just sorta “Meh”. It’s not the worst thing in the world. It just had a lot of potential that I felt the writers didn’t capitalize on.

Season 3 and Season 4 are my favorite

@thegoldman25

6 ай бұрын

both are great!

@peteryanes3413

6 ай бұрын

My is 1&3 then 4&1

To me, Korra isn't bad it just suffers from wanting to do so much when Nick didn't care to give them that time. A lot of people note that the less episodes really impacts a show and it's true, but the only way to handle that is often to know when to hold back on story elements. I see this in a lot of stories that it's easy to over-add elements because you love the world and it's complexities but not knowing the future means you also run the risk of overburdening what little you have. People often go on about how ATLA had a lot of filler but the answer is it didn't really to me, it just was willing to play with pacing and needed development while understanding where things come from to follow it through to the end because you know where things needed to go and how to get them there. People have pointed out there are only really 4 filler episodes with one being the recap episode yet even those do something to highlight parts of the world; The Great Divide is hated but it does explore Sokka/Katara's differences and how easy it is for communities to split. The Fortuneteller teaches others to not be blindly reliant and that things aren't always to be trusted because we are told, something that comes up in Ba Sing Se in a much more direct way. And the Painted Lady showcases the Fire Nation doesn't necessarily care about it's civilians in favor of the war, it continues to humanize many of the lower class as being victims just as much to greed and war. It would be much more difficult for LOK to use time as just full on character episodes but it wouldn't take much to also look at each episode and plan out how characters had a bigger construal role from point a to b in how they change like Korra by the better shaping of b plots and motivations. It didn't always do things perfectly, but if I look at relationships between the two series for example we can romantic threads being used without often being the sole focus allowing for characters to still act on their own; Sokka has a scene where he is shaped by his time with Yue and what that later means for when Suki is imprisoned. By taking the plot driven approach romance was the key tie to actions but it often felt like characters were lost in the romance aspect beyond their own growth. People say they come off as more of a friendship viable in this setting but then that ignores that the show relies on their relationships to establish them as characters, but then those relationships tend to overall falter because it doesn't care to go more in depth with it's impacts of characters in the long run-- the dynamics of being ex's would have done great into shaping character arcs of needing to be better because romance in involved rather than just showing us scenes of them together.

For me when I watch season 2, I think of the Dark spirits in season 2 as "corrupted" spirits, they are literally infected with the Darkness by an outside force, this is why they look completely different from Spirits like Heibei and the Ocean Spirit when they were Dark Spirits, in that they were just supremely pissed off.

To me, TLOK is actually a gem and there is no need to compare it with ATLA, because from my part, the only thing they have in common is the world (bending, nations, etc) and other than that they are completely different. Korra is an adult series and the protagonists are older as the ones in ATLA, going through early adulthood and their 20s. As a person who has had therapy before in my life, its completely understandable from Korra to evolve but get back to her default behavior when things get bad (say the recrutement of the ignorant airbender). Team avatar from ATLA were early teens who lived together and spent every moment together, factors that strongly contributed to their more rapid changes and evolution. As an adult myself, I have noticed that sometimes pain and suffering is enough for people to bond. You may not have had the most intimate interactions with certain individuals, however the fact that you both went through a tough life experience will always connect you, which is why I believe the team remained loyal to Korra, even if they had nothing to benefit from. Its the true differences in friendship dynamics that escalate in various ways as we age that separate LOK from ATLA and even though I recognise its flaws and parts I dont quite enjoy, it still remains one of my all time favorite series. Thank you for the excellent piece of work, Gold man!

3:17 that she is naive, bratty, and easily manipulated is the one thing each season she struggles with

I absolutely LOVE tlok I think people always try to compare it to atla but the writers did such a great job at separating it from aang’s story, I was afraid that the second show would be repetitive but they introduced us to a completely different era, completely different avater and a show that feels just different enough. Nickelodeon did anything to sabotage this show but it still turned out WAY better than most shows targeted for children

@laylaedry1609

4 ай бұрын

I feel like I need to add that comparing between atla and tlok is pretty much the whole point and im not saying that we shouldn’t do that, what im trying to say is that avatar the last airbander was so much more than just a cartoon you know? It shaped an entire generation and inspired so many good stories, I just dont think its fair to expect korra to have the same impact

A lot of the issues you pointed out in the series is one of the main reasons why I just could never really get into the legend of Korra. I loved the idea of a sequel where we got to see the Avatar after aang and when I heard what type of person Korra was going to be I loved it, but I genuinely felt like the writers fumbled the ball so bad. Season 2 is a prime example of a hard fumble.

I'm a huge fan of TLOK, and I would just like to pin point one thing I noticed. One of the first scenes we see Korra as a kid, her outfit is a very very light blue. Over the seasons, her outfit is getting darker and darker, which could signify how she went from the innocent child, to a person who's growing and experiencing the reality and pain of being the Avatar. It could show the amount of pain and mistakes she wents through and does

I liked the characters from korra for the most part, but I didn't fall in love with them like I did with O.G team avatar. I really felt like even when korra was at her most powerful she just seemed very lack luster as an avatar. Aang even at the age of 12 with no one to guide him at the start of the series felt more competent than korra even though she had basically 17 years of training with the best teachers the world had to offer before the story even starts.

I’ll say this; I think more about the legend of Korra than the legend of aang. I think of Zaher, I think of amon, I’ve pushed season 2 oooout of my head, I think of the world they created from the ruins of the old. I think in parts Korra shined brighter than the last airbender but it was never as consistent.

Really great video, watched it fully and enjoyed every second. Every point was very well made and the structure is neatly put together. Now onto some thoughts, i feel like they messed up writing raava and vaatu, as an idea i think its perfect that the avatar is half spirit, and the plotline made the avatar cycle and reincarnation stuff make sense, the only issue there is, is as you said they mentioned raava to be an all good spirit, while personally i saw that raava wasnt as peaceful as she should’ve been if she was really representing all good, they should’ve went into that way more. The krew is barely given any chances to progress as you said but i feel like korrasami was written well, it was slow with barely any moments but i think thats realistic or atleast from my experiences. Also i think zaheer kept the airbenders hostage just so they wouldn’t resist, the rest of the black lotus had to be present while they poisoned korra because she obviously would be destructive in the avatar state when its out of control, you even see minghua ready for fighting while the poison was distributed, so the airbenders had to stay out of the way I think thats the reason they werent released immediately. As for season 4, the beginning was perfect but it lost me mid season, they barely dug into the motives of kuvira which could’ve been great. So yeah overall i agree with almost everything you said and this video was such a breath of fresh air especially when everyone wants to hate on tlok and “fix” it subjectively trying to make it exactly like Atla. The two are meant to be different and tbh korra has the best character development in both series, some might debate its zuko but i feel like korras development was more clear to see. She is a good character, and the entire show is good even when its bad. Honestly if korra was released immediately after atla maybe people would be more nostalgic towards it and hate it less.

@thegoldman25

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching!

I watched the Legend of Korra for the first time last year, after being a huge ATLA fan since I was a kid. I had avoided it for a long time because of the negative reputation it had. I wish I hadn’t have watched it. I was left utterly disappointed and wish I could’ve liked it, really I wish I could. Her whole character and selfishness really made the show all about her rather than other people she was supposed to be serving and protecting as the avatar. Such a shame, her character had so much potential. I didnt think I could dislike a series more than people disliked the first ATLA movie.

Good video as always, but I take issue with the claim that Amon & the Equalists are intended as a direct critique of communism. I feel like this gets thrown around a lot, and while they're certainly a revolutionary group, and reference communist iconography, the bender/nonbender divide is such a specific concept to the Avatar universe that I really doubt it's intended to just be a direct allegory for communism, especially since the only real character that's a member of the bourgeoisie (Hiroshi) is firmly an Equalist.

Everyone always mischaracterizes Ravaa and Vaatu. The show called them Order and Chaos, not good and evil. it also said that getting rid of one comletely was not possible. they would always regenerate and chaos would always exist. locking vaatu away in the tree didn't stop him. Wan died on a battle field, lamenting that he couldn't bring balance. When Korra dispersed him, the next season she dealt with a military dictator. Vaatu is not evil. He said he existed Millenia before we began our crawl from the mud. he is being that exist so foreign to us, in an extreme inhospitable, he by his very being threatens us.

Is it possible that they make a LoK remake? The one where everything from the characters to the circumstances were fixed? Such as Sokka not dying early or even having an episode that shows what happened to him.

great video man, but i also wanted to hear your opinion on bending and how its changed over the years after the 100 year war, and also what you think about other questionable changes to the bending system

You have no Idea how happy I am you never mentioned "Korra is a Mary sue because she mastered airbending instantly". She spends an entire season working on it and suffers a traumatic experience to even get it. If anyone is a Mary Sue, it's Aang (learning 3 styles in a day each).

@kevinzhang6623

4 ай бұрын

...Learning doesn't mean absolute mastery.

@unprime_laugh

4 ай бұрын

Please elaborate on she using air bending, for the first time ever, after getting energy bended is not a mary sue moment but aang training every day and the show even doing whole episodes on his training and not being able to master anything other than air and (arguably) water is

@katherinemayers6733

4 ай бұрын

Calling Aang a mary sue is something else. Delusional korra stans lol

@thekiwibird37

4 ай бұрын

Yes because giving a toddler casuallyt inherit master-level bending abilities with no previous training isn't nearly as powerful and damaging as having a teenager have to train hard to master all four elements and then struggle to master the Avatar state under immense pressure to do so as fast as possible. Y'all Korra stans are on some good shit.

@darkfire8008

4 ай бұрын

@@unprime_laugh She was blood bended, not energy bended. However, more easily a comparison is Aang "unlocking" the avatar state because he got a little poke to the back. Still doesn't make her, or Aang, a Mary Sue though.

The biggest missed opportunity in the entire show: when the Red Lotus escaped and started to wreak havoc, not one person said "Zaheer is here!" It's not a really big thing, but it would have been funny to hear

For me it is the saddness of lost potential: the interesting plot lines having no resolution, interesting characters having no real growth or change or relationship with others, interesting antagonists with no lessons we should have learned because of them. The biggest letdown for me is Mako, he could be such a good character and then was totally wasted ...

@XEVN7

5 ай бұрын

Summed it right up. Could've been so much better. Shame

Personally, I think Korra dropped the ball hard. Take away the fact that every character aside from Tenzin were underbaked and unmemorable, the story was just subpar at best. It showed potential, but despite trying to tackle darker themes, it manages to deliver them in a very juvenile way, and by far its biggest cardinal sin was trying to explain the magic behind the bending. Thats exactly the reason people didn't like Star Wars Phantom Menace. Even the villains, which the fans swear is the best part are the most unerbaked cookie-cutter villains you could ever make. Sure they were intimidating, they had a personality, but they didn't have character.

@twizms7362

5 ай бұрын

Best way I've ever heard it described was "atla is a show for children written by adults, and korra is a show for adults written by children"

@Cybertechwerewolf

5 ай бұрын

@@twizms7362 I've never read something more accurate in my life lol

@dakai-kun2248

4 ай бұрын

Um it's written by the same people, so that's a crazy diss 😂

@Cybertechwerewolf

4 ай бұрын

@@dakai-kun2248 individual show writers, sure. But the head show writer never came back after ATLA

I love atla for the impact it had on my childhood but I love korra mora because she’s more relatable and she’s trying to figure out her place in the world when everyone is saying she’s not needed anymore. It’s a masterpiece. Korra alone is the best episode in my opinion of the whole avatar franchise.

I think the legend of Korra really resonated with being a good show in terms of connecting with folks who had those issues (depression, PTSD, fear of living in unstable environments). In terms of story continuation, I honestly think season two just wrecked any sort of recovery. It was…a season that absolutely destroyed the continuity that was ATLA. That isn’t to say that I had an issue with the art, because I didn’t! I loved seeing the southern water tribe grow into a beautiful city! Story wise it just disintegrated the story ball. The legend of Korra showed us the struggles of a teenager/young adult avatar. It showed us complexities of society that teens/young adults struggle to comprehend. The last two seasons were very much well done. It made me feel uncomfortable seeing Korra just suffer through chronic illness, and I think, by doing so, has really left an impactful mark as the viewer.

I’ve said this multiple times, but despite how many times people say that the show is garbage, provide good reasons why that I can side with, I can’t bring myself to genuinely dislike the show. I guess all I can say is that the show is a mess, but it’s my mess.

Recently, I watched a video on Kora and how quickly she got over her trauma and that the writers were beating her up for no reason So, seeing someone making the opposite argument is so cool and interesting

Going back to Book 4, I realized that Toph is right about one thing about Korra’s enemies: people like Amon(equality for all) Zaheer (freedom from corrupt/oppressive governments and monarchs) and Kuvira (having no leadership is a bad thing and stability to the Earth Kingdom is important )really think they are the heroes of their own stories. While they are right, Korra’s enemies are totally out of balance and they have taken their political ideologies way too far. They are not your typical baddies as Firelord Ozai or Azula. However, taking ideologies to extreme lengths is basically what happened to Firelord Sozin before and during the 100 year war.

I watched ATLA as a kid and i had a true watching of it 3 years ago. A year later I tried watching Korra and it isn’t a masterpiece like avatar is but mannnn it was a great watch. It is worth watching it. Season 2 was ehhhhhh and season 1 is just solid but season 3 and 4 was greattt

@thegoldman25

6 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more! Except I never had the pleasure of watching either as a kid. I watched both for the first time when i was 21

Bolin is probably much closer to Kora than Mako ever was. Bolin sorta took a step as a pseudo Earth Bending teacher to Kora. It makes sense for him to tag along. Mako literally has no role in the group, and I agree, he shouldn't have been a part of the Team Kora, but he was probably kept due to Bolan. Bolin is literally the only reason for him to continue following. Asami is there as Kora's emotional support. She shouldn't be following closely like she actually does throughout the series, but a better method to include her would have been to use letters between her and Kora to build that intimate relationship as Kora and her describing what is happening between them. Maybe when Kora finds herself lost, we could see Asami visiting her to help her through a tough time, but soon needs to leave for her business. The only role I see Mako feeling is being the common sense of the group.

What an excellent breakdown, I agree with a lot but not all but you raised excellent points that didn’t even occur to me, Season 4 is so real and is my favorite over the great 3. The withdrawal, losing yourself and harming yourself and the haunt were very excellent and if they ever adapt this to Netflix I hope they explore this is even more maturity and adult themes, especially because Avatar Kuruk lived such a debacherous life it suggests, to me at least, there’s more to her getting lost and reflecting her beat up and destroyed was a great way to show the ways we hurt ourselves that a kids show ultimately has to be careful about

@leafygreensmusic

5 ай бұрын

Also enjoyed it a lot more than ATLA, Aang is a bit comical and unrealistic to me but I think the world was so terrible ultimately he’s the perfect response and the perfect person to handle that time and conflict. Korra was a real person. We’ve been Korra (maybe not the creator of the video) or dealt with a Korra, and ultimately we all will share some kind of path Korra had. Aang was a bit like a Superman or something like that, an unrealistic depiction of a perfect hero of sorts.

Waiting for netflix to bring it back would be awesome if they made it grown up now since we've all grown up, but also cause her story needs it I think. Korra I actually liked better than the OS love them both, but I just loved the optical dynamics and moral complexity of Korra more. I'll never forgive Nickelodeon for not letting them show Korra and Asami as a full-on couple.

the irony about the writers attempting to make kuvira an irredeemable racist, fascist is they also tried to make her redeemable. i am supposed to sympathize and feel sorry for a despicable person because her parents abandoned her and she cried a bit? wtf?! she literally placed people in concentration camps based off their ethnic identities

Asami and Korra together felt so unbelievably shoehorned it HURTS. It was like they were just trying get extra funding for another season by claiming they were allies of the LGBT movement...when nothing about their entire show had any indication of that being the case.

I agree with most of what you said here. I really wish they had done something different with Season 2. It damages the series and the lore of the universe in irrevocable ways. If season 2 was decent would have a lot less to criticize.

Actually the meeting between korra and toph is after the isolation. Korra was already isolated on her own after managing to walk on her feet

I remember watching episode 1 of Korra the day it came out outside of my college on a bench with my friend, and when the episode was over, I turned to him and said ‘this is going to be amazing!’ …I quit after Book 3: By then it was too little, too late to get Korra and the others to start caring about the consequences of their actions and them attempting to be friends. Like with Bolin and Asami playing Pai Sho, Bolin says he loves Pai Sho and I said out loud ‘Since when?!’ And before people say ‘Korra didn’t have time for exploring stuff like that’; If you take out the one flashback episode that had to do because of budget cuts, Korra only had 10 less episodes than AtLA. Or like at the end of Book 2, when seeing exactly why Wan decided to close the spirit portals (because humanity was living on the backs of giant turtles and literally just walking in the grass got you killed), Korra decides he was wrong and ‘screw him, I’m opening up the spirit portals!’ Without any input from anyone besides Tenzin who essentially says ‘You’re the Avatar, do what you think is best.’ And then during Book 3 she acts surprised when things are going horribly!

I know that the show isn't perfect and it had some absolutely massive shoes to fill following the Last Airbender and I think that, a few missteps aside (like with the romantic drama), I think that Legend of Korra is a worthy sequel to the Last Airbender and it's nice that you can genuinely see Korra become both a better Avatar and a better person as the season's go on.

I let out an exasperated sigh when Korra ended. I didn’t want to like korra better, yet still somehow I felt more touched by her story.

I liked Legend of Korra. My opinion, but I think people are too harsh on the show

Tbh I think if Korra was a fire bender she would’ve had a personality that made sense. She’s so hot headed and stubborn which is absolutely NOT like the similar element to air in water but absolutely in fire. It feels weird that the creators wanted her to be entirely different from Aang but she’s also of the element that was as close to air as it could be. It’s why Aang struggled with fire bending so much in the first place (though yes earth is technically the elemental opposite of air the personality opposite usually seems to be fire especially compared to Aang).

Wait I thought Bolin convinced Mako to join because they'll be going to Ba Sing Sei where their father's father live

Realistically, i think a big reason why team avatar didnt feel the same here is because of the shortened season length. In ATLA the longer seasons really gave us (and the writers) the opportunity to glimpse into the lives and intricacies of these characters by going on sidequests and having thematically rich stories and conflicts that gave us chances to learn about these characters and watching them grow together. Meanwhile in Korra the character depth takes a backseat to all the bombastic storytelling and world building they wanted to do with the symbolism and ideologies they explored in each season. I think its no surprise that things really came together in season 3 when we finally have built up some sort of understanding and affection for these characters. If Korra had been given atleast 4 more episodes per season i think it would’ve made a difference, imagine if they had 20+ like avatar. All the time that couldve been spent deepening their characters instead of having to make bad story decisions by cramming them in whenever they got the chance and adding characterizations when they could and not building them up like they should. It just makes it seem out of place and i believe Korra wouldve been on par with ATLA if it had the same opportunity it did.

I didn’t really get into this universe until I was in my teens. Korra is way more relatable to me and her show means more to me. When I was at a low point so was Korra. She was an avatar that I needed to see much like I needed to see Superman stay with the girl on the ledge or Spider-man giving a young boy his mask to make the kid feel brave.

The difference between ATLA and TLOK is: ATLA is for everybody TLOK is not for everybody Simple. I enjoyed LOK and she became my best avatar. 👌 I also like Aang thats why i dont argue with Korra haters. because ill need to challenge their love for aang which would be wrong because i love aang too

To be honest Korra getting her bending back at the end of season 1 doesn't bother me because Amon technically wasn't really taking bending away he was using blood bending to chi block people if they had properly explained it I don't think there would have been as much of an issue. The thing is if they had left it blocked it would have been Aang's journey all over again when she already knows the other elements as well as her arc for that season was already completed so I don't know for sure if it would have been as interesting as you may think.

Dude you were able to find the perfect words to describe these ideologies and why the show gets their portrayals wrong. On top of that I always hated how korra's team Avatar have little to no chemistry... I did like a lot of the themes and wanted to like how they portrayed but the execution falls short in many aspects... I still love the show though. Not better than ATLA haha

I disagree with the idea that Korra lacks arcs it’s just not where you 😮would typically expect to find one. instead of the characters and new team avatar having a very deep and powerful arc it’s instead given too the public and the very world around them. I’d give an example or two but honestly I’m drunk and want to go back to chilling so I won’t. But I do suggest going and watching the show with this mental framework and you will see exactly what I’m talking about.

@Cluadiusmaximus

6 ай бұрын

Maybe I’ll come back to this tomorrow and come back to it. Might also finish the video too ☺️

@adeptdamage3669

5 ай бұрын

Nah most of Korra's characters were flat as paper.

Korra didn’t really click with me as a kid, but now that I’m adult and rewatched it, it has it flaws but I love it now because of some themes it covers.

THAT WAS 10 YEARS AGO?!

I feel her so much, the last part got into me mentally.😢

The Legend of Korra is basically the Star Wars sequels all over again. Both of them are criminally underrated, and they both should get the respect they deserve.

@thegoldman25

6 ай бұрын

i think more people like Korra than the Sequels

@Deity_devil

6 ай бұрын

They arent underrated

@cloudyfoam

6 ай бұрын

​@@Deity_devil they are to me.

I believe zeheer keep the air benders but left tenzin because he could then get the gang to hand over tenzin who is the avatars child and the leader of the air nation at this point to turn himself in for another ruler but Could not because korra beat zeheer

@thegoldman25

6 ай бұрын

interesting

I will admit as much as i love legend of korra it did really fumble the bag with team avatar like they never really felt like friends more so a acquaintance. Also i agree with you korrasami is the most forced ship like i can see korra still being friends with mako but I'll never understand how asami became romantically interested in korra like i can see her forgiving korra and becoming frenemies but romance i absolutely refuse to beleieve that.

Regarding Unalaq and the chapter in general: I think that one of the things that Korra should have learned about solving conflicts that aren't black and white is how difficult it is for one person to do it, how they can be swayed by their own personal desires and problems. Keeping Korra as a non-bender for at least the start of the season could have easily been a set-up for it: Her alligning wity Unalaq after he promised to give her a way to get her bending back. Jumping to the end, I think that Unalaq wanting to become the 2nd Avatar by alligning with Vaatu, not becoming The Dark Avatar because he is Dark and Evil, but becoming a second Avatar, by claiming that, as has Korra shown throughout the season, a single person cannot possibly keep the balance, cannot resolve morally grey conflicts. Dunno if what I am saying makes sense, I just genuinly think that the "Dark Avatar" could've been handled well and made for another challenge to Korra's ideology.

I always find if kind of funny when i see peopel say that nobody likes LoK because it has like an 80% at least and anyone who has actually watched the show likes it

@thegoldman25

3 ай бұрын

in my experience most people like Korra

@nathanaelwaters2509

3 ай бұрын

@@thegoldman25 ya. Some people just have a preconceived notion and refuse to change regardless of the actual quality of the show