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@APlusRussian

Жыл бұрын

I see you decided NOT to make it ambiguous in the thumbnail 😉 Or, is there a "B" version that will be like that? 🤔🤔

@nixter888

Жыл бұрын

The Etruscan alphabet derived from the Euboean alphabet used in the Greek colonies in southern Italy... Why don't you mention that? Are you trying to underrate the Greeks?

@misssiddle5023

Жыл бұрын

I learnt Latin with free OU courses and with Duolingo during lockdown. I’m fascinated by how languages have developed and think they should teach Latin in primary schools as compulsory just like BSL.

@johndorilag4129

Жыл бұрын

When I visited the Philippines, Catholic seminarians and priests were studying and practicing Latin. Some of them were actually able to carry conversations with it. Latin used to be part of the curriculum in Catholic universities in the Philippines.

@alkante2962

Жыл бұрын

The old english biais that nothing good could come from France and the French... unless it has some german in it, of course! (Too bad Hitler was this bad...)

I mean, the Romance languages are the Latin that wasn't frozen in time and that kept and keeps evolving.

@smalls5001

Жыл бұрын

parlez normalement svp

@desanipt

Жыл бұрын

@@smalls5001 Les langues latines sont le latin qui n'a été pas arrêté dans le temps et qui a continué et continue a évoluer.

@smalls5001

Жыл бұрын

@@desanipt Oui continue a évoluer mais pas le latin classique

@ghrtfhfgdfnfg

Жыл бұрын

@@smalls5001 it is still Latin

@smalls5001

Жыл бұрын

@@ghrtfhfgdfnfg no it turned into other languages

I don't speak Latin but there is an interesting story about one of my favorite English authors. C. S. Lewis had one of his books, "The Screwtape Letters", translated into Italian and a Priest in Verona read it. But the Priest didn't know English and Lewis didn't know Italian, but they both knew Latin because of their Classical education, so they were able to write letters to each other in Latin over a period from Sept. 1, 1947-Dec.5, 1954.

@BGM16

Ай бұрын

I guess English is your first language, interesting what you said in your comment. Let's not forget that 65% of the English vocabulary comes from Latin, the only Germanic language where this happens. Btw, my first language is Spanish, that's why is easy for me to pinpoint the Latin words in English, so going back to your comment, I think you know some Latin more than you'd think. Best regards.

In Italy, in most high schools it's mandatory to learn Latin. I remember that at a point I was dreaming in Latin. The same thing occurred when I was learning English.

@simianto9957

Жыл бұрын

In the Netherlands, it is common to learn Latin and ancient Greek in high school too.

@rossialessandro2334

Жыл бұрын

@@simianto9957 good to know, but I think that in the Netherlands you study less Latin. For example, my mother is Polish and, in high school, had little Latin compared to me. I don't know what the level is in the Netherlands.

@simianto9957

Жыл бұрын

@@rossialessandro2334 True, you learn it for 6 years with the goal of understanding basic poetry.

@CLOS5001

Жыл бұрын

@@simianto9957 Only in the Gymnasium or the Lyceum, i.e., selective prep schools for universities. All other high schools don't teach it in The Netherlands.

@simianto9957

Жыл бұрын

@@CLOS5001 Correct

The romance languages are what's left of Latin. We could say that Latin didn't die, it just evolved into the romance languages. When you hear people speaking Spanish or Italian or French, you are hearing 21st century Latin.

@smalls5001

Жыл бұрын

you mean vulgar latin

@ijansk

Жыл бұрын

No, Romance languages are their own thing. Just because they stem from Latin doesn't make them a form of Latin. As a native Spanish speaker I don't speak Latin; I speak Spanish.

@smalls5001

Жыл бұрын

@@ijansk Latin turned into Spanish

@ghrtfhfgdfnfg

Жыл бұрын

@@ijansk nobody is saying you speak Latin as that still refers to a specific language that is now no longer spoken natively. Romance languages ARE Latin only in the sense that they share the very obvious root language. Not sure how far you can take this though. Are Norwegians speaking Old Norse? No. Just like Italians aren’t speaking Latin.

@bofbob1

Жыл бұрын

Right. Kind of like if someone promised to show you a live dinosaur, then showed you a sparrow and said it was a 21th-century dinosaur. Technically true, but still kind of disappointing ^^

To us Catholics of the Latin Rite , Latin is very alive! We worship and pray in Latin every Sunday!

@shishinonaito

Жыл бұрын

I wish Catholic religion would have stayed the fuck away from Latin.

@kathrynellis5313

Жыл бұрын

Yes!!

@ashtonshelton8584

Жыл бұрын

That’s so cool I didn’t know that was done today!

@danim2897

Жыл бұрын

@@ashtonshelton8584 there are Latin masses in almost every major city in the US. You can search on the internet for one near you

@ashtonshelton8584

Жыл бұрын

@@danim2897 thank you for the tip!!

I took a look at Latin once , to try to understand why French grammar was so complicated . To my horror ; I saw that the French had greatly simplified Latin grammar in evolving into French . A committee of experts could not have designed anything more difficult .

@calebp6114

Жыл бұрын

You should try Greek lol, it’s wayyy worse

@Novumvir

Жыл бұрын

@@pia_mater They didn't "decide". It was a subconscious process over generations, where every new generation made and deleted new alophones until we ended up with latin. Every language evolves through alophones created or deleted.

@martinwallace5734

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@TheMDJ2000

Жыл бұрын

Try Portuguese...

@hoi-polloi1863

Жыл бұрын

They did it on purpose. They were all, "Hey! We're Indo-Europeans. We're *supposed* to have insane amounts of verb conjugations and noun declensions!"

Luke is so amazing, I wish I had had him as a Latin teacher at school 😎

@storylearning

Жыл бұрын

I know right!!

@Romanophonie

Жыл бұрын

Lūcius optimus est!

@euanthomas3423

Жыл бұрын

Lucius stella est

@Ebs72PJ95

Жыл бұрын

Lucas est peritissimus et quasi magnus magister videtur. I am sure people will enjoy working with him. 👍Wish he could have been my Latin teacher in school. Although, I must say I have been lucky to have an amazing teacher back then who built a linguistic basis strong enough to make it through 5 years of Latin. I still remember my very first chapter by heart. 🤣

Olly and Luke teaming up for a Latin course? Yes, please.

@storylearning

Жыл бұрын

Voilà:)

There's a radio station in Finland that broadcasts in Latin! The reason Sardinian is still close to Latin is that its speakers live on an island that's long been isolated and little affected by the outside world's changes. (For the same reason, the Appalachian dialect of hillbillies is closer to what Shakespeare spoke than most other versions of today's English.)

@Unbrutal_Rawr

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the program came to an end just a month over 3 years ago.

@notcrediblesolipsism3851

Жыл бұрын

I've heard that story that some American dialects are closer to late middle ages English than the English spoken in England today and I just don't buy it. In England there are many different accents that have gradually homogenised due to mass media, in the late middle ages they would have been much more diverse and sometimes mutually incomprehensible. There wasn't one English to sound like.

I learned Latin in high school and it was seriously one of the most fun classes I ever had in any school. You learn so much about history and culture, art, literature of ancient Rome, and more. Western culture is based on Latin in so many ways, I think everyone should learn at least some basics. And it's super useful if you ever decide to study any romance languages.

@peregrination3643

Жыл бұрын

Was it a Catholic school? I've never heard of Latin (or Ancient Greek) taught in a high school until recently. I have a friend who learned it at a religious college, so I thought maybe Christian private schools taught it like how Churches used to use it.

@LetoDK

Жыл бұрын

@@peregrination3643 in Denmark it's taught at a low level in all general high schools.

@anabellik

Жыл бұрын

I'm from Poland and Latin is taught in high schools here, it's not very common, but not unheard of. Some of these are private and/or Catholic schools, but regular (non-religious) public schools teach Latin as well, either as a third foreign language, elective or extracurricular. If you pick a school that offers a program focusing on humanities, history, or biology, and plan to become a lawyer/doctor/historian etc., it makes sense to study Latin early. The particular school I went to was a Catholic public school. EDIT: I heard some schools also do Ancient Greek, but I've never personally met anyone who studied it in high school.

@grewdpastor

Жыл бұрын

@Peregrination : Latin and Ancient Greek are taught in non-religious colleges (called Gymnasia) in the Netherlands and I believe that is also the case in Germany. Once Latin was the scientific language in Europe (before English became so dominant ).

@fedbat2199

Жыл бұрын

@@peregrination3643 We do that in Italy too. Italy we have several types of high schools and the students decide what high school to attend. In the scientific high school people study latin and in the classical (?) high school they study latin and ancient greek

I learned Latin in school, and almost every time I explain some Latin word to my friend who speaks Spanish he realizes at some point what the word is in Spanish. Doesn’t always recognize the pronunciation at first.

Yup was sold on the course as soon as you said Luke would be teaching it.

I learned Latin as an American high school student in California. I took two years of it, but wasn't very diligent and got very poor grades. However, as an adult in my 40s I moved to Iceland several years ago and began learning Icelandic, which also has gender and case systems like Latin's. That Latin study as a teenager, in addition to helping build my English vocabulary, has made it a lot easier to pick up basics of Icelandic grammar. In retrospect, taking those Latin classes, painful and unproductive though they felt at the time, has had huge ongoing value in my life.

Perfect timing for this video. As someone who has gotten obsessed with language this past year- and has been studying Spanish hard- my dad recommended learning Latin in order to better understand all the Romance languages and to have a “kick-a*% vocabulary” haha. So wish me luck guys. Thanks for the vide Olly

@headstanding_Penguin

Жыл бұрын

latin grammar will also help you with german, as it teaches you to understand the gramatical causus system

@AUGUSTIN-MUSIC

Жыл бұрын

@@headstanding_Penguin awesome!

I've always been a fan of learning languages, but Latin fascinates me. Thank you for such a great video!

@javifontalva7752

Жыл бұрын

You can learn Latin on my channel.

@SmallSpoonBrigade

Жыл бұрын

Latin is a wonderful and very beautiful language if you don't mind the hassle of declensions and conjugations. Personally, I had issues with that, but it is a language worth learning anyways.

Been watching Luke for a long time, the guy is a genius.

Latin is still taught as one of the second languages you can learn at school in Germany. And everyone who wants to study theology has to learn Latin and Ancient Greek.

@danielaortiz8946

Жыл бұрын

Hi. ¿What are the other 2nd languages?

@claudiakarl7888

Жыл бұрын

In most schools it’s French. But some schools also offer Spanish.

@marcusyaun9465

Жыл бұрын

Interesting when I was I school we didn’t learn Greek or Latin, maybe a little bit the only two languages available were Spanish and French….

@claudiakarl7888

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusyaun9465 Where did you go to school?

@zimriel

9 ай бұрын

For theologians I'd drop Latin and instead demand a Semitic language, probably Hebrew but I'll allow Syriac.

I just have to say how much I love this channel. Another brilliant video. Thank you.

@FlamingBasketballClub

Жыл бұрын

You watch Olly Richards videos? Who knew?

Current Latin name: Occitan

Coptic is the same way, Coptic is known as a dead language but there are many people that speak it colloquially as a second language. Coptic is making a slow but true comeback.

@zimriel

9 ай бұрын

Bohairic, I assume? Sahidic was the literary language of Late Antiquity, but the Bohairic church had more people so it became the default. Students of Late Antiquity and Egyptian literature under early Islam are better off learning Sahidic.

Brother Casmire James (RIP) tried his mightiest to teach me Latin for 3 years. I confess it did not take. Bless you Brother my Teacher. I learned much more than You ever thought. Bless you Old Brother. Best

Heus!! ("Hey" in Latin), I found this video through Luke, and it appears that you've got an extremely interesting channel - and a new subscriber :-) So happy you're going to collaborate and combine spoken Latin and history! Although I'm a Latinist, I've been always having difficulties with understanding and particularly memorizing history. However, you explained it in such a vivid way that I watched the whole video, although I was planning to see the first 5 minutes, as it's way beyond bedtime. Then, of course, I appreciate it a lot that you brought up the subject of Latin being a language spoken today: I'm more than happy being part of this amazing community! Thanks your this video, which I will absolutely share with my friends!! Gratias ago pro ista pulcherrima pellicula, quam omni pacto cum amicis meis compertiar! Te saluto ex Germania, Marina.

@storylearning

Жыл бұрын

Wonderful comment thank you!

Well, I celebrated a traditional Latin Mass just today, so I'm not sure that I'd call Latin "dead."

@gemoftheocean

Жыл бұрын

I priest I knew studied in Rome in the 50s. He had classes which were given in Latin. When exam time came around he had to verbally answer in Latin. Stupid misguided Vatican II changed all that.

@doctorj6030

Жыл бұрын

I still occasionally attend the Latin Mass that I loved when I was young. The church has kept Latin alive , even though it is not universally used in the Catholic Church.

@nealgrey6485

9 ай бұрын

This is sarcasm. How do you feel that almost no one knows what you are saying? But perhaps this is not a public church but a school where the students DO know Latin?

@fallingcrane1986

7 ай бұрын

Deo gratias! (Day-oh grah-tsee-ahs!)

@johndorilag4129

7 ай бұрын

​@@nealgrey6485Heck, even in California, I cannot even understand the English spoken by Americans

I studied Scots Law which is based on Roman Law and had to read the Institutes of Gaius and Justinian in Latin. Being from different periods, I could see the language changing.

I’m keen to do that Classical Latin course. I speak French, German, Italian and Spanish, and I studied Latin for six years in school, so I’d really like to recoup the knowledge of it that I’ve lost over the years.

You can easily realize how important Latin is, when you have to learn the scientific names of plants and animals at university. After 4 ys of high school Latin it was not challenging me, but most of my schoolmates had difficulties with that.

This is a fantastic video. When I started learning Italian I fell down a language rabbit hole of sorts. You and Luke are my favorites, so to see you guys collaborate is a real treat.

@storylearning

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much

@quercus5398

Жыл бұрын

For those learning Italian,remember propably 95% ends in vowels,anything female ends in “A” Anything male ends in “O”...........Figlia....Daughter. Figlio......Son.

I started learning Latin and I got so excited when I could understand the audio snippet in the beginning of this video! Count me in 🙃

😎 Cool way to thread SO many languages that SO many of us speak RIGHT back to Latin 🧵

@storylearning

Жыл бұрын

Glad you noticed!

Wow, this is amazing! I love Luke and his work, he's taught me so much!

"Palat" = "Palace" in Romanian (Latin Palatium). I think that out of all languages, Romanian preserves this word most accurately.

@gabyradu8266

Жыл бұрын

Romanian don't come from Latin. No matter how much , we Romanians, brag about this ....romanian language don't come from latin. The children's of Roman elites had to learn latin and greek.

@3dwardcullen69

Жыл бұрын

@@gabyradu8266 Please cut the bs. You're making us look like uneducated crackpots.

@daciaromana2396

Жыл бұрын

@@gabyradu8266 This is misinformation.

@malarobo

Жыл бұрын

@@gabyradu8266 And from where come the Romanian?

@gabyradu8266

Жыл бұрын

@@malarobo Oh...that's easy to answer. Genetics evolved and gave us the answer. We are a genetic mix of old cultures ( Hamangia , Boian , Cucuteni , Turdas-Vincia) that lived 6000-8000 yrs ago(haplogroup i2 30%) and a relatively recent culture , Getae (R1 haplogroup 36%) that came from north -east 3500-4000 yrs ago. And E1B 10-20% that came from Africa. In Europe didn't came any new DNA in last 4000 yrs. I mean , did came . But under 4-5% and it was assimilated in the larger European DNA pool. Hungarians , Finish , Slavs , Visigoths , Ostrogoths , Cumans , Tartars , Bulgars, Mongols etc etc. They were ruler classes and they were assimilates in few generations. After 10 generations or so they looked very Europeans. If you refer to Romanian language ...where did it came from , its even more simple. Romanian language didnt came from Latin. It came from an older language ...From this primordial language came all the European languages. Not Hungarian and Finish languages.

I am glad to see this video, I love Latin and have been learning it for about 10 years now and I can speak it. I have some friends who are also friends with Luca Ranieri. :)

If I had to guess, I’d say that there are about 20 to 30 thousand fluent speakers of Latin still around today, as well as many thousands who have been trained to be able to read it, just not speak or be capable of hearing it.

@simianto9957

Жыл бұрын

It's actually way less, estimated to be around a 100.

@SmallSpoonBrigade

Жыл бұрын

@@simianto9957 That sounds about what I would expect. These days, the vast majority of the people who are conversant or fluent in Latin learn it as teenagers or adults for use in religious studies. There's also a very small amount of materials being produced in Latin, which just makes it harder to learn and retain the language. Compare that to the production quantity of even less common languages, and it's particularly apparent.

@TheOnlyRaichuu

Жыл бұрын

I had learnt Latin for a total of 8 years in school. They never really teach you to speak Latin, instead you're only taught to read, understand and analyse Latin texts, especially poetry. To be fair, poetry in Latin is astonishing and highly interesting. The grammar allows for such wonderful poetry, I love it. Yet after all these years of learning Latin, I can't fully comprehend what the guy in the video is saying when spoken live. Neither can I speak Latin properly, though I can read it with the proper pronunciation. Just like you said, I bet there are many more thousands who can read it but just not speak or hear it

@FantasmaOlvidado1

Жыл бұрын

@@simianto9957 1000 according to wikishit.

I'm a history buff so I throughly enjoyed this video! I've never really explored Latin or recognized if I had an interest in it but the fact that it is such a well-preserved relic from the past definitely encourages me to learn it to take a look into history. Currently learning French but once I reach my goal, I'll head to Latin and try out your program. Nice to add a dead language to my arsenal (English, Spanish, French)

@storylearning

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting Courtnee!

@chibiromano5631

Жыл бұрын

Latin the first Esperanto...(tl) 1 govt, 1 language, 1 raza , 1 religion.. i smell neoh liberalitzm/cul tl martz sm tziguised as psuedo historical/ lingui acedmia,

@marcusyaun9465

Жыл бұрын

I always wanted to learn French, but instead due to where I live. I though Spanish would be a better fit since the people I live around all speak Spanish, giving me more opportunities to practice speaking Spanish…

Latin had a huge influence in my life. We could choose it as an optional course in high school and besides the language itself, I learned so much about history, mythology, religion and philosophy that I went on to study medieval history at university. It even helped me to get my current employment as an archivist describing medieval documents as a speciality. And while I already forgot so much of the finer points of grammar over the years, it generally deepened my understanding of so many elements of European culture, history, etymology and current European languages that I’m still grateful to this day that I took the opportunity to learn it in the first place.

@bofbob1

Жыл бұрын

That sounds like a fascinating job!

@peregrination3643

Жыл бұрын

What kind of high school did you go to that would offer Latin? I'm surprised to see a few people here in the comments saying that.

@marmotarchivist

Жыл бұрын

@@peregrination3643 A normal one? We don't really have different kinds in my country (good private vs. bad public, catholic etc. if that's what you're asking). Not every high school in the country offers latin or the exact same curriculum. It depends on the teachers they have. It just so happened that the one nearest to me offered it. In addition, our high schools are hard to get into, with good grades or entrance exams, so only about 40% of people attend them and later go to uni, the rest take the apprenticeship careerpath.

@bofbob1

Жыл бұрын

​@@peregrination3643 In France in the late 90s / early aughts I had an optional Latin class from junior high onwards (all public school). It started in "5e". Not sure what the equivalent grade name is in other countries, but it's your 7th year of mandatory education and students would be around 12 years old (unless they skipped or failed a year). I don't think my school had Ancient Greek though. It just depended on availability of teachers. Unless things have changed since then, in France you have two mandatory foreign languages, and one of them has to be English (which sucked in my case, because I grew up bilingual speaking English at home but I still had to attend beginner English classes lol). The other mandatory language can be whatever, but it's overwhelmingly Spanish or German. And then you can take optional classes in a third language. And there it really depends who they have on staff. "Districting" isn't all that strict and you can apply to go to another public school if they teach the language you're looking for and the one in your immediate area doesn't. For instance a friend of mine ended up going to a public school about a 90min bus ride further away than ours because she really wanted to learn Japanese and our school didn't teach it. I think Latin is fairly widely available though. More than Japanese for sure.

@marmotarchivist

Жыл бұрын

@@bofbob1 Beeing an archivist really is a fascinating job. I love to work with older documents, which have such an innate beauty in the language, materials and appearance, even if the content itself is quite mundane. In Switzerland, we also learn two additional languages during mandatory education, French and English in my case. And I didn’t mention it in detail before, but I started Latin classes in grade 7 on a voluntary basis and took it as an official subject in high school (grades 9-12), so I luckily didn’t have to do the “murder crash course” at university, where you learned all the basics required for majors like ancient and medieval history, philology or religion studies in one semester. And my condolences for having to take beginners English in France as a bilingual English speaker. My French and English are by no means perfect, both in grammar and accent, but French people speaking English... let's just say it helps if you know some French as well😅

Thank You Olly for making such a GREAT Video! I was woundering when You will talk about Latin!

No I’m learning Latin and Love it. Love luc so much

1:55 Why is Romanian not in the Italic chart?? It’s a Latin language too, even if it doesn’t immediately come to mind.

Appreciate you are giving credit to Luke Ranieri 🙂👏🙏

Two channels I thoroughly enjoy collaborating together 😃

Have you ever read books by Mario Pei? I started his books at age 13 in 1964, and I read them all. You remind me of him a little bit in your enthusiasm for language.

Great video Olly, very interesting !!!

This is great, Olly! Hopefully this video will promote the study of this pulcherrima lingua! 😀😀

I learned Latin from a young age. My father made us. I also love that KZread channel you mention and watch him constantly.

Very nice content, half an hour packed of stuff but never boring. And it must have taken some planning and research effort to build this puzzle of a video! Just one question... you'll be out with a storylearning course on a dead language but nothing on Swahili?? 😥 Cheers!

I took two years of classical Latin and a semester of medieval Latin in college over thirty years ago. Most of it has faded since then, of course, but I'd love to relearn it. I'm totally onboard with this course! Now, when are you going to create a similar course on 5th Century B.C. Attic Greek? I'm not kidding; I'd actually love a course on that!

@storylearning

Жыл бұрын

Haha, I’m imagining creating a resurgence in ancient languages here on KZread now…

One of my music professors, an organist born in Switzerland in 1942, once told of how when he was researching historic organs in Spain in the 1970s, he visited one church where the priest insisted that he didn't speak Castilian Spanish, rather only Catalan... or Latin! My teacher, who had studied classical Latin (and for the matter, Greek) in his Swiss school upbringing, then proceeded to converse with this priest in Latin the entire time!

My daughter took years of Latin in High School (including AP) because she wants to be a doctor. Latin has helped her in innumerable ways in college. My son is in high school now, and he takes Latin as well. Funny thing is, they attend/attended a normal public high school (not a charter school, not a private school - a regular public school) - which blows peoples minds.

@annarboriter

Жыл бұрын

While I was working towards my teaching certification, the school district was trying to drop Latin as an elective because it created too much of an appearance of elitism. Which made me laugh because I was told that even after 4 years of following the HS Latin program, the same students were very often placed at university into Latin 101

I'm a native Sardinian speaker, and i use the same variety spoken by the old lady in the video, but this is not the closest to latin, you should have looked for a 'nuorese' sample, the towns in the central area of the island preserved better phonetics and lexicon due the isolation.

@miv6770

Жыл бұрын

That's a treasure. Please consider recording conversations with people in that town, go talk with people. Why not upload them on yt, to remain in the memory of internet? Their language must be a hidden treasure...

@michelefrau6072

Жыл бұрын

@@miv6770 on yt there are many samples of Sardinian speech and dialects, there is a channel 'language quirks' , with a video about why sardinian is closer to latin than other romance languages, I won't put the direct link because yt seems to disdain this, even if it's an internal link

We need to keep this language alive

@simianto9957

Жыл бұрын

Working on it

@simianto9957

Жыл бұрын

@@austrakaiser4793 Lingua sine fine et sine morte

@austrakaiser4793

Жыл бұрын

Latinum est aeternum

Thank you, great subject

Salve, This is a very informative introduction. I would hope that the "case and declension" system for nouns and the "verb conjugations" will eventually be addressed, because they add to the precision of the Latin language. Gratis! P.S. "Arma virumque Cano Trojae in primus aboris." (Virgil's Aeniad, Line 1, Canto 1) "Quo unque tandem abutere Catalina patientia nostra?" (Line 1, Cicero's Oration on the Cataline Conspiracy) "Galia divisa in partes tres est." (Commenterri Bello Gallico)

As a classics major, this makes me very happy.

Here enters the philosophical question: when we should say that a language has died? Is really Latin a dead language while it has several dozens natural Roman continuers? Is ancient Greek a dead language or merely one of multiple phases of development of one single tongue which has led as to the modern Greek language? Personally I think that we cannot even say that Proto-Indo-European is dead because this language still 'secretly' lives in almost every word that we use. Meanwhile the languages like Hettitic, Hattic or Summerian are really dead, because they have left absolutely no descendants, neither they persist to these days...

@bofbob1

Жыл бұрын

What if some of those "really dead" languages left a few loan words? Reminds of pre-contact dogs in the Americas: they all went extinct, except their genetic lineage survived in a form of transmissible canine cancer that still exists today. So are the pre-contact dogs really dead? ^^

@mareksagrak9527

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@@bofbob1 Ha, that's a good question. Especially because a lot of ancient languages really became substratum for different modern languages. In Armenian language there still exist some Urartian borrowings, in French we can find some Gallic remnants and Ancient Greek language absorbed a lot of "pre-greek" (Pelasgian?) words which are still used in the Greek language, etc etc. However IMHO the core of every language from which we can roughly assume whether it still "exists" (as well as identify its origin) is its distinctive grammar and core vocabulary. You know such a relativist style of thinking can lead to different exaggerations. For instance this is now a widely known fact that neandertals were mixing with homo sapiens so that we have some of their genes. However it would be quite risky to state that because of that Neandertals still partially live. 😅 (But maybe right indeed?) And what to tell about some particular dinosaur species whose descendants are modern birds?

@SmallSpoonBrigade

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Generally, you go based on native speakers and whether it's being adapted to cover the needs of those speakers. If those two things are happening, the language is definitely alive, but might be in danger if it's a small community. Typically, if you've got native speakers, the language will continue to be adapted and evolved to remain useful. Even if there were still native speakers of some of those other languages of the Italian peninsula, if the languages aren't being updated, it would be a stretch to suggest that they weren't dead.

@SmallSpoonBrigade

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@@bofbob1 Pretty much every language will leave fossils in the languages that are in use in regions that the speakers contact. The main exception would be if the only words that are unique to the language don't reflect things that are needed in those languages. So, if the word for Interest were to be imported into a language like Arabic where most of the speakers don't believe in paying it, then there's a poor chance of it being preserved through Arabic. But, if it gets passed through a language that does concern itself with interest, or more likely comes to, then there's a good chance of it being preserved there. As opposed to situations where the word does reflect a useful concept, but already has a word for it. The words may still find use anyway, Beef and Cow, Chicken and Poultry, Pig and Pork all are able to coexist in English, but it wasn't a given.

Arma virumque cano.....I took 4 yrs of Latin 50 yrs ago.and it was just wonderful to hear ur guest speaking in Latin. Thanks!

Vraiment fascinante cette vidéo! Merci mille fois!

That thumbnail made me realize they need to make a videogame with Roman zombie legions

First :)) I love your videos, I became fluent in English thanks to you!!

@douaabm9179

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Can you tell me how can I acheive the advanced level in english? I felt like I'm stuck in the intermmediate level Yesterday I did a level test and I got B1

@thaissa382

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@@douaabm9179 You should try to immerse yourself as much as you can: think in English, read in English, watch movies in English, practice talking with english speakers... It's what worked for me :) good luck!

@douaabm9179

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@@thaissa382 thank you so mush I try to do all of them everyday

Amazing story!!

Fascinating and delightful, thank you.

Love your vids man! i started my love of lang from your vids! really helps with my first conlang i'm making :D, Ðandryn

Hi, I am your big fan and the level of knowledge that you possess is extraordinary... I request you to make a video on Tamil (Tamizh) language spoken in India, Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Singapore and other parts of the world...

Thanks for the video I think I’ll start learning Latin again

very good video! i admire luke quite a lot, what an interesting man

That was really interesting because I studied 'O' level Latin at school and got a B !

Lingua Latīna optima est! Grātiās tibi! Lūcius bonus magister est!

I like your videos, and also that weird Hokusai ramen bowl t-shirt in this particular video. Did you know there is a daily Latin language news broadcast in the Finnish public radio service since the late seventies. Nuntii Latini.

Really good! Bravo!

Latin is used every day in churches where the traditional Latin mass is offered.

I find fascinating how Ecclesiastical Latin evolved from Vulgar Latin over time. I’m no linguist, but I think Romans in the 1st or 2nd Centuries would probably struggle with understanding Ecclesiastical Latin. Akin to us Modern English speakers struggling with the Late Middle English spoken by Shakespeare (albeit in reverse).

I recently started learning Sanskrit, and encouraged by your inspiring channel I started looking for easy Stories in Sanskrit and actually found quite a few very good and accessible, besides huge channels with hours of Sanskrit stories read aloud... Now, seeing this video on Latin, I am wondering what is more alive: Sanskrit or Latin? There are also news in Sanskrit and people who raise their children speaking Sanskrit. There is some movement towards making Sanskrit more accessible than the traditional teaching (torturing?). I actually started my studies with a Spoken Sanskrit course and all the "terrors" of tables is far from being terror for me now... Wouldn't it be an interesting topic for another video to cover what's happening with Sanskrit?

LOL 26:28 I was taught "In Taberna" and parts of Carmina Burana in my high school choir!

The romance languages are Neo-Latin. Italian and Spanish are the closest to vulgar latin in many ways. Romanian is also close.

@ironinquisitor3656

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Sardinian is pretty conservative too.

first!!!! Olly, you are the best!!!

@storylearning

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First!

When I saw the part about Roman poetry and the syllabic-based meter, it totally reminded me of Ottoman Court Poetry. There was a similar pattern called the Aruz meter based on long and short syllables. It's apparently a popular meter in the poetry of the greater Middle East too. Seeing this was really interesting.

Luke Ranieri and Olly Richards collaborating together on a Latin course?I am most certainly looking forward to it!

Still crazy about Latin. Luckily, I was able to take 2 yrs of it in HS + a modern language. I still haven’t used the Algebra though. 😈

Yes!! Finally it’s out!!

0:36 why did you have to word that so beautifully

Quoting from the Sister Jamie episode in The Bionic Woman: “donec procituro tom veritas non oretur”.

I don't get why you don't have Romanian in the Latin language tree. It s spoken by almost 30 million people in 2 countries and in diasporas around the world. Not to mention one of the biggest linguistic mystery, considering the geographic location of Romania. Moreover, still the closest to original latin in many cotidian expressions.

@LoicLerminiaux

11 ай бұрын

Also the video mentions that no romance language has kept neutral.

Thinking about it, Latin no longer being in common use is probably why it is so commonly used for magic systems in fantasy/ modern fantasy stories. That would be my guess. I've been considering using it for my modern fantasy magic system.

Excellent!

“Roaming the streets”. Nice.

Here in the Philippines, seminaries teach basic Latin to their aspirants. Although I have yet to meet one fluent in the language, I am sure that it is taught to a few, my cousin included. They used to use the book "Ars Latina".

@ricoaranilla5949

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yung ibang matatanda marunong mag latin

in France, it is usually possible to learn some Latin at school, even though the thing is not as popular as in the past, most collèges (high schools) propose at least one or two hours of Latin a week. I studied Latin for five years, and it proved incredibly useful to understand how Latin words evolved into French. First, since French is a language with a terrible case of homophones (sang, sans, cent, sent or sain, sein, ceint, seing or banc, ban), the problem was solved with keeping the original latin word as a model. So knowing some latin proved quite useful to write my own language. Second, I could go backward and understand how Latin could have evolved in Italian or in Spanish, which helped me a lot deciphering these languages when I was in Italy or in Spain. For instance, when you have the spelling "au" in French, it usually an "al" sound in old French that was lost in time, but which is still very alive in Spanish or Italian: chauve -> calvo. The same for the sound "ch", which is still a "c" in Italian or in Spanish. château -> castello. The "â" is French, which denotes the presence of an "s" in old French: pâte -> pasta. And so on and so forth.

i absolutely love that you did not use bce or ce. make up your own time frame if you want to change it. we are in 10 ce? love you)))

Hi Olly, I have a quick question. I bought the 30 French Short Stories for Complete Beginners on the kindle version. If I want to listen to the audio, do I have to buy the book again through audible to have access? Thank you I really enjoy the books so far. Thank you for making learning languages so fun, accessible, and affordable! Cheers

@storylearning

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I believe that’s the case, yes, although we keep the kindle version as cheap as possible. We can’t control the pricing of the audiobook unfortunately.

I read somewhere (I can’t recall where) that Romanian has retained more things from Latin (or has evolved to a somewhat lesser degree grammar-wise) when compared to the other Romance languages. This makes sense since they are geographically more isolated from the rest of the Latin language descendants. So if you wanted to, you could test the waters by trying Romanian first.

@zimriel

9 ай бұрын

I've heard this too but it is a bit overblown. Western Romance was a baseline of Western Vulgar Latin, with much colloquial Gaulish and Germanic, and also influence from the Church which fed in Greek koine as spoken in western Anatolia. Romanian didn't have a lot of that - not even from Greek since it's north of the Jiricek line - but what Romanian did have was a lot of Slavic neighbours. (And when the Slavs were Christian *those* Slavs had some Greek influence, but later Byzantine Greek.)

Are you gonna make a short stories book for Hebrew?

@storylearning

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Id love to!

2:47 Romanian: palat. 1:54 You made the typical mistake. Romania has the most latin language of all despite slavic influences. We have the statue of Romulus and Remus with the wolf in front of public administration building in the small town in which I live and many more latin symbols.

Where can I buy your shirt, where did you get it olly, I love it

Great work. As a former Latin teacher, much appreciated. Only one small criticism, the delivery was WAY too fast for my generation (70s)

@dwaynekeenum1916

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That means he’s a better speaker

There's a young girl named Iulia who grows up speaking Latin and sometimes shows up with her father in the Latin chat. Etruscan has a relative, Lemnian. The language family they belong to is called Tyrrhenian. Did you mean that "window" is from Etruscan (it's from Norse), or that "fenestra" is? A few other words that are (probably) derived from Etruscan: belt, April, satellite.

@annarboriter

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Yeah, that example makes no sense at all. Other than place names, I don't think Etruscan contributed anything to modern languages

@malarobo

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@@annarboriter In this video it is not clearly stated that "finestra" is used in modern Romance languages ​​such as Italian and French (fenêtre) , not in English where "window" is germanic, but many italian words derived from etruscan via latin: persona (person) from etruscan persona=mask* atrio (hall) from athre=wide space autunno (fall, autumn) from autumnu mondo (world) from muth=hole popolo (people) from puplu arena (ring) from arena=sand calta (a type of plant) istrione (great actor) from hister=actor finestra (window) from fenestra milite, militare (soldier) from miles=attendant via latin miles=soldier taverna (tavern) from taberna catena (chain) from cathna vino (wine) from uinu avvoltoio (vulture) from vultriu cerimonia (ceremony) from the etruscan city of Caere (today Cerveteri) classe (class) asse (axis) sporco (dirty) from sporcu naso (nose) from nasu probably even pari (even) from pare saetta (arrow, lighting bolt) from sagitta raggio (ray) from rahdia=spike asino (donkey) mulo (mule) some of these words are used even in english and other modern european languages. * the actors wore masks in roman theater, then persona went to mean a character, a theatrical role and then a man or woman in general

@annarboriter

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@@malarobo I have no idea what source exists that contends that this word list includes Latin borrowings of Etruscan words. A few are cognates with Greek so that rules out an Etruscan origin. Furthermore, what is the point of citing modern Italian vocabulary to then compare them with Latin borrowings of possible Etruscan origin? It's just as likely that Etruscans borrowed vocabulary from both Latin and Greek speakers. The first test to know whether this vocabulary is from Etruscan is determining whether it has PIE roots and then one can speculate whether the original source is Etruscan. Both nasus and vinum, for example, have clearly established PIE roots that I didn't even need to look up

@malarobo

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@@annarboriter That list is get from various sources: The “Treccani” encyclopedia (the most prestigious for the italian language), “Thesaurus Linguae Etruscae” (1978) “La lingua etrusca - Grammatica e lessico” (1997 by M. Pittau) “Dictionnaire étimologique de la langue latine” (1985, A. Enout) ”Dizionario etimologico della lingua italiana” (1979, M. Cortellazzo) ”Etruskisches sprachgut im lateinischen unter ausschluss des spezifisch onomastischen” (1993, H. Rix) ”Dizionario etimologico italiano” (1950, C. Battisti) ”Avviamento all’etimologia italiana” (1968, G. Devoto) In those sources the etymologies are indicated as etruscan into latin, not vice versa (no PIE root). In some cases there are names or family names of Etruscan origin that refer to these words: atrane, atru, atrunia (linked to “atrio”), pupla, pupli, puplie (linked to “popolo”) see also the etruscan city of Populonia. There are even etymologies indicated by latin writers: Varro in “De lingua latina” wrote “atrium appellatum ab atriatibus tuscis” = “hall is named by etruscans of Atria” (Atria is a city, the roman Adria). The halls in Pompei were named “tuscanicum”, another recall to etruscans. In greek atrion means “calm” then it isn’t a correct etymology, but a random homophony because the semantics is very different.

@malarobo

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@@annarboriter For the word “vino (wine)” according to Treccani encyclopedia is a word of mediterranean origin then it’s a pre-indoeuropean word, not a PIE word. Latin taken this word from etruscan. Perhaps it’s a native etruscan word or a loanword from greek to etruscan, but of pre-greek origin (minoan? Lemnian - a language similar to etruscan?). In any case, if today in italian and english we use that word it is because the latin took it from the etruscan. For the word “naso (nose)” you are right, the root is indo-european, but there is an etruscan cognomen (name of the gens=clan name) Nasu. It's way it is in the list (I should have put them on the list of uncertain items).

I did Latin for one year in Grammar School and by making me aware of grammatical inflection which English lacked, I think it helped me when I started to learn German the following year. On a linguistic note I once caused the Latin master to correct his original assessment of a sentence I wrote as for a joke I used the 'Est mihi' construction for 'I have' and all the following words from various declensions just happened to end in 'ae' as a result and had a certain appeal. Marking it, he grunted and underlined these endings as errors in my presence as I smiled. He got to the end of the sentence realised what I'd done, said 'Ah' and went back scribbling out his previous underlining.

@antoinemozart243

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Latin and german have a lot in common.

I want this man and Lucien teaching the classics at major universities in US and UK!

Latin is making a comeback. Quick! Everybody go buy the book "Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata" by Orberg

And if you are a Catholic, Latin will open the doors to the great treasures of the Roman Catholic Church. So, that's another great reason to learn the language.

@gemoftheocean

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Agree. Also All Christians learning Latin can readily find the texts of the New testament in Latin on line. Great for practice. If you are familiar with the New Testament in your own language, try picking up a new testament written in Latin. At random read from the gospels. Chances are good to excellent if you know the bible fairly well, you can make pretty good deductions as to meaning. Phrases are often repeated. Sometimes I can virtually understand it all without having to look up too many words. It's great to practice on the fly reading comprehension this was.

@nasugbubatangas

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@@gemoftheocean And the Vatican City maintains its website where all its Latin documents are available.

Are you going to release a Storylearning book for Latin in the future?