The star system was a way to try and clarify the SBMM of hunt and to reduce frustrations for some newer players, although it can have the opposite effect sometimes. I hover between 4 and 5 stars and I think that’s a fun and exciting bracket to be in so I’m happy :)

@froozenzitroone3915

Жыл бұрын

True, you have fun the way you play boss 👍 I'm in high 5 star and it isn't fun sometimes

@ZePinkie

Жыл бұрын

@@froozenzitroone3915 Even low ish 5 stars play like everymap were night + fog map.

@gregorh.3919

Жыл бұрын

good for you mate :D Im almost every match on 5-6 stars with my buddies and they're as mentioned in the video... cockroaches sitting in dirt waiting for someone to pass by

@ZePinkie

Жыл бұрын

@@gregorh.3919 Yeah that's it. It's so boring to play that way...

@xObscureMars

Жыл бұрын

@@gregorh.3919 Bs most 5-6 stars are agressive, and don't just sit around.

Skill based mm isn't ment to be a ranking system that you try to climb, it's ment to pair people on simmilar skill level for best experience for everybody. Bush crouchers are product of thinking that 6 stars is something worth going out of your way for

@nathandingy

Жыл бұрын

honestly mmr should be hidden to players only screw themselves in the end and people who have 100 kills with 7000 hours can stop saying how good they are because they are 6 star

@mattroks101

Жыл бұрын

People really don't seem to understand that SBMM is to make sure that veterans don't stomp newbies. It mainly exists to benefit the normal to low skilled players so that even if they suck at the game, they're at least paired with people who also suck at the game close enough to their level so that it's a fair fight. Kills vs deaths makes sense for that. The system isn't judging you at how good you are at running away with the bounty or avoiding fights, it's judging you at how good you are actually fighting other people. It wants to pair you with people who are about as good of an aim as you, have about as good of map knowledge as you, kill and get killed about on par with you, and I think the system works really well for that. Thanks to shadowplay there's a recording of each kill I've gotten since I bought the game in 2021 and if new player me had to fight me now I would have uninstalled the game immediately. SBMM is almost certainly responsible for how much fun I was having when I got into the game because everyone else I was fighting against was just as bad as I was. The biggest issue the SBMM system has in my opinion is that it's possible pretty easily to derank yourself on purpose to get down into a lower bracket. I don't have a good solution for this personally, but at the very least the SBMM system seems to be aggressive enough to put you back into a high rank after a game or two of wiping the map. If I go on a losing streak and get put down in the MMR 4 bracket, I usually only have to wipe the map, at most twice to get put back into the MMR 5/6 bracket again.

I'm a 4 to hight 5 star player, and I have to say the 4 star is by far the most fun MMR matchmaking. 5 star up is a cesspool of wanna be tryhards whose aim is usually lacking, but they can sure hold completely still looking at that window or down that hallway till you walk into there sights. Then instead of using this pressure they will camp that body for 40 min, because why would you ever push when every person I run into is running label and Uppercut/ uppercut slate/ Crown and King, etc. Just sit back and watch a movie, because everyone knows whoever pushes first is gonna need a lot of lube from what's about to happen to them

You summed it up very nicely. I will just add that I have had conversations about problems with current SBMM with devs on the official discord. Well, they think it's working flawlessly and it doesn't need any changes. Personally I cheer when I drop down to 5 stars as I am mostly 6 star even though I rush everywhere and never camp. But I am getting punished for doing well. The lower your mmr, the more fun you have.

@froozenzitroone3915

Жыл бұрын

They also think there are no bugs in the game xD

@logictom7254

Жыл бұрын

@@froozenzitroone3915 They never said that

@retromario96

Жыл бұрын

I swear, game devs are never capable of admitting fault or simply being wrong.

good luck with your goal :3

Im mostly 5-6 star mmr i respect your gameplay in almost all my games everyone is hiding in the compound without having any fight just holding angles with shotguns and trapping up everything,

@lockofmetal8894

Жыл бұрын

Can say it's the same in 3-4star mmr aswell. Been in a group with 2x 3star & everygame we have 4stars, maybe one 5 star. And they all camp. So it's the same in lower to dude.

@montana2806

Жыл бұрын

@@lockofmetal8894 i watch a streamer who plays at 3 stars theres almost never a stalemate situation like i have

@lockofmetal8894

Жыл бұрын

@@montana2806 Right, so it's all personal experience & not a "fact."

@montana2806

Жыл бұрын

@@lockofmetal8894 Everyone knows 3-4 star mmr is better experience than 5-6 star mmr and thats not a personal experience

@montana2806

Жыл бұрын

@@strelokstalker212 true some people enjoy camping the compound

on console the pop is so low you can be a 3 and end up in back to back 6 star lobbys

6:57 it's just hard to look at, everyone jokes about how 6star games are aids but actually seeing it is something else. good vid glad you're done with the painful grind :D

@somanyfnbananas2774

Жыл бұрын

And that is one of the better rounds in my experience since they're not all camping in bushes with sniper scopes 200m away from the boss lair

I'm actually really enjoying 5-6 star SBMM. Both my random teammates as well as enemies being paired against are providing good level of fun. I find Quick Play rather frustrating precisely because it's usually clubbing baby seals with 0.5kdr which leads you into false sense of security as you unknowingly stumble onto 3.0kdr terminator. I don't enjoy kicking a puppy nor being curb stomped. People have extremely misguided view on MMR, perhaps stemming from MOBA where higher MMR = more good. This is not the case - it doesn't exist to measure the length of your e-penis, rather than to settle you in a place where you will encounter enemies similar to yourself. This isn't exactly an easy task because you can't quantify "skill" in an FPS game based on stats. There are many more esoteric factors that can't be easily tracked hence why most games reduce the judgement to following few simple stats which is better than nothing for the purpose of matchmaking. Good player knows when it's time to play fast and loud and where to make an ambush. If one likes playing reckless 100% of the time, running and gunning, if your aim is half-decent you can easily have loads of fun at 5 star MMR. At 6 star you do encounter a lot of people playing it safe but you also encounter a lot of people who will bum-rush you while plinking and consistently hit scanning you through covers giving you no space to breathe. If someone only sits waiting in ambush it's roughly an equivalent of someone purposefully tanking their MMR - they're gaming the system to end up in a place they don't belong to. If MMR was to represent "skill" it would need to take significantly more stats into account and it would still be unable to accurately judge someone's "game sense". FPS skill doesn't come down to aiming alone - positioning, movement, planning your engagements and capitalizing on your strengths while mitigating your weaknesses are significantly more important skills as a player than having excellent eye-hand coordination. TL;DR: To get the most out of MMR just play however you find it fun. Don't stress on how many stars you have because it doesn't matter. If your playstyle ranks you at 3 stars or 5 stars so be it. Just be yourself and you will have whole lot more fun than trying to "climb the MMR". Don't try to get to place you don't belong at and then complain that you have to tryhard and are not having fun. You're doing it to yourself.

"I'd rather commit Sudoku" lol it's Seppuku but none the less i absolutely loved watching this series and the rest of your videos. I've only just discovered your content so i'm going through all the old stuff. keep it up, you're a legend

@mr.muffintime6442

11 ай бұрын

that was the joke

@Jhosk95

10 ай бұрын

its bukkake actually

We run into the same. Its even worse on console as the playerbase is much smaller at 5 and 6 stars. Our group is low 6*, mid/high 5*. The skill difference between the other players is huge, and with this few players, we often end up getting dunked on by the top50 players game after game. The elongated system makes it you don't lose that much elo when someone higher than you kills you, but you do gain a lot when you kill them. Effectively making 1 kill worth as much as 4 or 5 loses in a row (lucky frag keeping you in there...). The moment we drop enough, we have 1 or 2 decent matches and we're up again. Sbmm doesn't work in a game which has 1v1v1v1 (4 teams of 3). It works in a clear 1 team v 1 team. Something should be added that each consecutive win/loss should increase the loss/gain of mmr after an initial xx losses. Something like overwatch does that it adjusts you rank/bracket based on the last 7 games or so. In hunt it moves up to fast (but you go down really slow). Or just no SBMM at all. Looking at the graph, you can,just dilute the high people in with the rest...

I have to agree, started somewhat about month ago been to couple games in star 5 and really do not want to go past that or even to that point.

I agree. My buddys and I are continuously coming into 6 star territory and it´s just not fun if you want to play like a normal human being. lower 4-5 star is the best experience imo. You still have a challenge but it feels soo satisfying if you win.

Yeah the MMR/star system isnt perfect and I think thats totally fine. I think the only reason why for some people its actually horrible is because they give a shit about their own MMR rating. If you just play the game for the round and not for your overall MMR its fine. It lets you have pretty balanced and fair fights and thats all it needs to do atleast in my opinion

10:49 reminds me of a Battlefield Hardline fun reloads

3-4 star matches are the most fun whether you win or lose! The fights are all Shoot outs like in the movies and how the game is meant to be payed , I legit either turn the game off or purposely play stupid to drop my rating when it gets to high I hate the play style of the sweat lords and the bushwookies/crouch across the map aids shit they all do it . Not to mention 5-6 star is where I find 1/3 games will have a aim botter or wall script kiddie in it

11:40 actually murdered god damn

its like that graph meme where the graph goes high from low and then goes back into low again with a dumb guy on first low end and the crying nerd guy on the other. you get bush men in 3 star mmr, and get them again in 6. 4-4.5 mmr is def high end of the graph

@logictom7254

Жыл бұрын

I dont find any bush men in 3 stars lol

I honestly thought MMR was based on wins/kills/KD/and deaths not just death vs kills in a match and I didn't know deaths weighed so much heavier against you!

@lockofmetal8894

Жыл бұрын

It all depends on who you kill or die to. If you're 4 star & kill a 6 star, you're immediatly bumped to 5 star. If you're 6 star who dies to a 3 star, thats an insta 5 star. It's insanely punishing & rewarding. No one stays at the same rank for long, because you fly up & down so damn quickly. Normal competitive games like R6 siege or csgo etc. They have you first 10 games be up & down, you'll fly to gold, silver to bronze etc until the games like "aight we think you should be here." And then for another 20 games, the points you make/lose is still high but it gradually goes down. Until the point you gain/lose is very low, THAT is when the game has found your skillrank. And you need to gitgud to climb. Hunt doesn't have that. Ever kill is like a placement match. It will toss you all over the mmr all the time. I can go from bottom 5 star to mid 6 star to bottom 5 star to 6 star to mid 5 star in 1 day.

@Avellar3000

Жыл бұрын

@@lockofmetal8894 the system overreacts way too fast. Moving people up too soon and people down faster than it should. There really should be a time scale that it works on rather than just "Your star is this now, nope changed our mind this now" after each match

@jaxxpot179

Жыл бұрын

No win à game change nothing to the mmr

This is why I prefer 4-5s. 6s are mostly bushwookies, and oddly enough 3s has a lot as well trying desperately to camp their way out of 3s. I'd rather have fights.

@freaki0734

Жыл бұрын

3 stars don't know what they are doing so they are scared

@SampleT3xT_

Жыл бұрын

The problem that I usually die to bush camper or a crab walker somewhere

Im a 5-6 star Shotgun main and ngl bushwookies are very annoying but if i push across an open field and some of these no hands cant hit a single shot with mosin spitzer cause im a moving target. Theres nothing more satisfying when i finally tbag them 🥳

In it's concept the MMR system in Hunt works better than in many other games. You kill people with high MMR - you get better MMR. But obviously this game doesn't regard if you extract with double bounty, or that you died to a random headshot, or because your teammate revived you, while someone camped, or trapped your dead body. So you get 2-3 deaths and the game thinks you are bad, but in case you probably did nothing really wrong. So this game should also include the bounty to MMR. Because I often meet 6 star players who have a KD of 3.5 or something, but when I look at the stats, they extracted like 10 bountys in their whole HUNT carreer. Sometimes I even feel like I'm the only 6 star player who actually does the objective and doesn't camp in bushes for half an hour.

My Hunt Showdown playing cycle goes like : play a lot of Hunt, climb MMR, reach 5 stars, from there get only into sweatlord territory where people cosplay as salads, and get bored of the game. I go play something else and when I finally feel like playing some Hunt again, MMR decay gets me back in fun zone...

I feel you man. Had 5 stars and only bushwookies than deranked a lot when i played alone for the event and now the people are moving like what?

@lockofmetal8894

Жыл бұрын

This is just copium snorting. 4 stars camp just as much, even more most of the time. Example: Faced a team in Healing waters. 2 4stars 1 5star. 5 star pushed us with shotgun, he died. Burnt his body. His 2 teammates sat in tower + in the house with shotgun. Non of them moved an inch. I unfortunately walked into him & died. So ye, they camp just as much, it happens equally in all ranks. People who lose alot tend to make up reasons.

@lynxxlynxx

Жыл бұрын

@@lockofmetal8894 i can confirm that. I have much more action in 5 star mmr than in 4 star where no one seems to take a risk. And on another day, it was the other way around.

I hover between 5 and 6 star and honestly wish I was 3-4 stars instead. My aim is not good or anything and most of the time my shots just come down to luck but I still somehow keep climbing up to 6 star. It is quite miserable getting 1 tapped by ADHD Sugar-Rush Andy over and over again or 3 teams camping at the edge of the boss lair for 20 minutes or until they hear someone die.

System never worked properly, to be fair: it's so easy to meet people of both 0.6 kda and 1.75-3+ in the same lobby.

True. I dropped more kills in 3-4 stars but i can only play snipper in 5 stars lobby

Yeah, every time I reach 5-6 star im starting to be miserable, I cant play for fun and need a warmup and full tryhard instead. I need to derank, maybe solo with constant self res will work xD

Perfectly balanced as all things should be! Dw though we'll have new cosmetics soon!

Stars are imaginary. Once you get that in your head you will have fun in this game and that comes from my experience with over 2000 hours and 8k kills. All these numbers dont matter because i still play this game, there was a time when i got frustrated alot because i was tryharding and constantly chasing that 6 star mmr, but once i got deep into it i realised it is not worth it. So enjoy the game people and try to be happy

the fact you lose mmr for dying more than once is really the dumbest part, the chances of dying again basically increase exponentially every time you get downed so chasing those stars encourages to just quit and try again (especially with randoms).

Yeah I stopped checking that box after 5 stars

These are just my personal thoughts on how to line up the MMR system around normalized gameplay, kind of spur of the moment so feel free to share your thoughts(obviously numbers and multipliers are spitball): Increases MMR: Downing players: Trivial boost Bounty extraction: Standard boost & Bounty Booster bonus. Bounty Booster: Multiplies downed player boost(Single Bounty mission: 5x for 1 bounty token/Double Bounty mission: 4x for 1 bounty token & 7x for 2 bounty tokens) Decreases MMR: Match loss caused by enemy players or AI: Standard loss I have had games where my team gets the bounty and immediately head to extraction for the daily extract bonus but had nobody opposed us so we got no kills. We technically won the objective but it was kind of an unsatisfying empty feeling. On the flip side my duo team has had games where we wipe 2-3 other duo squads but we weren't able to catch up to the bounty holders and they extracted, coming out the victor in those fights was awesome, no doubt, but it still felt like we let true victory slip through our finger tips. The game kind of gives that feeling after awhile that if you don't get the bounty extract and some kills to boot you haven't really won. I feel like this may make for a pretty good MMR System as it feels more aligned with the Win conditions of the game and what give the most feeling of accomplishment while making it so people who are good at pushing the objective and gaining kills are raised higher in MMR so that they get more of those action packed fights while the lower MMR players hone their skills. EDIT: Remove Bounty Token Extracts giving MMR themselves but keep the multiplier as it helps steer MMR back towards organic gameplay. Add a slight bonus to MMR gain when you kill an enemy Hunter who is holding a Bounty Token, this way those who show up late to the objective can still gain a good amount of MMR if they win as those who have the bounty tokens have a higher likelihood of getting kills do to having a target on theit back. Maybe gain slightly more MMR when killing an enemy Hunter if you're holding a Bounty Token.

@lockofmetal8894

Жыл бұрын

Problem here is that you could always focus on small bounty, play off hours & you'd be 6 star without seeing a single player. Then you actually get players & you're sniped by a winfield at 120m with ironsight. And now you're being stomped for the next 10 games until you derank to a rank where you feel like you're able to compete. Heres how it should work in my opinion. Any kill/Death will remove/add the exact same mmr. So lets just divide up ranks in an easy way. 1-1000 1 star 1001-2000 2 star 2001 - 3000 3 star 3001 - 4000 4 star 4001 - 5000 5star 5001 - 6000 6star Each death adds lets say 150mmr. This is regardless of the other players mmr. So even if you're 6 star if you die by a 3 star, first death is 150mmr. If this 3 star kills you again, it would add a multiplier based on the mmr difference. Perhaps 0.5x increase for each star difference. Which means next death would be 300 mmr loss. Now kills is where it would work differently. If the guy is lower mmr, you gain less, the multiplier would be added immediatly. Because logically it's more likely that you kill him than he kills you. But if you kill a higher mmr, you still only gain 150, you don't gain any multiplier here. Unless you kill a second 6 star. Then it would add a multiplier. So if you're 3 star, it would give you 300mr on next 6star kill. And even if you kill a 6 star then 5 star, you'd gain 150 first then 225. My reasoning for this, is that if you die to a lower ranked, you don't immediatly drop a star, vice versa if you kill a high star, you don't immediatly fly up. Since the game has no diminishing returns after x kills like normal competitive games with X games for placement matches & after playing long in a season. This would make most sense.

@yefremjr

Жыл бұрын

​@@lockofmetal8894 you're right and it would be easy to farm intentionally. On another hand though not rewarding bounty is also not great. I have 2 thoughts here: - MMR is meant to give you similar skill PLAYERS, not bosses so it's ok when it's no affected by PvE part. Initially rating was not meant to be public and maybe it should not be to avoid discussions like this - if we actually want reward bounty, we need to lower the chances of empty server and removing double bounty would be a good step here. Too often I appear on a smaller bounty side of the map and no one comes to fight me/ And even if I wanted to fight, starting a quest for another boss after the first one is done feels like too much effort

@lockofmetal8894

Жыл бұрын

@@yefremjr My point was that bounty shouldn't affect mmr at all. Because how good you are is not based on how many extractions you have. If a solo manages to kill 9 players but a duo took bounty & left. That duo did nothing worthy of increasing their mmr. Theres no "skill" in taking bounty & avoiding combat. mmr was shown to remove confusion on why people felt like they got ownd so often & everytime they saw an up arrow, they assumed that guy had played the game for 15k hours with 100k kills & never sleeps. But instead it caused more confusion & it exposed how horrible the sbmm actually is.

@yefremjr

Жыл бұрын

@@lockofmetal8894 I see your point but can only partially agree. Objective is PvE and does is not technically related to your PvP skill but chasing it changes the way you play the game. Sitting in a bush with a sniper and never coming closer than 150m to the boss is also easier than actually trying to take it and extract. If we are concerned that people will pick bounty, avoid combat and leave (which is a very real concern too), we should make it harder to avoid combat while taking the bounty. The game already tries to do this by exposing bounty position on the map but it does not always work and other players don't always "cooperate" And honestly I don't think SBMM is horrible. I only play occasionally at 3 stars but all the complains I've heard can boiled down to "game rewards certain playstyle I don't like". Which is valid but not directly realted to SBMM itself

@lockofmetal8894

Жыл бұрын

@@yefremjr It doesn't reward certain playstyles. You can be fucked or rewarded regardless of how you play. Example: Yesterday before i played with my friend i had lost & died alot. So i was close to 4star at 3.5 solo mmr. 3star solo mmr is 4 & 5 star border. After killing 6 people i was 6 star. All because 2 of them happened to be 6 stars. That is not a good mmr system. That is horrible. You're getting hundreds of mmr points for killing 1 6star. Vice versa, if i had died once to a 3 star as a 6star, i would be mid 5 star immediatly. Losing hundreds of points in 1 death. And it doesn't even mean he 150-0 you. You can be hit by a poison sparks by a 6star, he just crouches around & taps you once with nagant silencer & his mmr is what the kill is based on. The pve is ONLY there to attract pvp . That is the only purpose. Now it also helps you being able to buy more loadouts . But the whole idea is that they slap on a common goal to get people to fight eachother. So that is what the mmr should be balanced around. It's just a means to an end. You can't punish bounty holders even more. The moment they stick their head out, 5 other teams will shoot at them. The extraction works fine as it is now with bounties. No mmr balance should be revolved around bounties. As it wouldn't make any sense.

Always fun fights at 4 stars

i think the system is pretty good , and its amazing that yo u cant turn it off, so people value more their life, also that the spirit of hunt , like you are hunting and being hunted you dont wanna die . as far as i see it : is it fair to loose more mmr if you kill 3 and die once , the answer is yes . because if you go solo vs trios , you are usually being match with people that are 1.5 stars below or 1 vs duos , so you still have the advantage you want an easy game an increase your kda , play solo , if you want a fair game , play trios , im not saying you wont die vs 2-3 stars, but you will manage to get at least 3 kills per match if yo u are 5 stars .

holy fuck i lost it at the clown´s horn

About to have to start my own ranking up extravaganza. I went from a solid 5 star solo hunter and have slowly been losing rank down to 3 last night. The only change I've made is playing with friends. Gotta spend some time back in solo to get back in the groove of things

@J.B.90

Жыл бұрын

Solo will generally match you against worse teams to create a "fair" fight. So it creates a false sense of being good against hunters of equal skill I think.

As somebody who sat in 6 star lobbies for months I can say there is a very small chance you will get into a good fight where people are actually playing the game

Games get better when you reach 5.5* match MMR. I think the 4.5* MMR has lots of players that tryhard to get to 6* which leads to boring and stale gameplay. However, in higher ELO games, people play more confident.

Im always on 5-6 stars very very rarely on 4 for one match. I dont sit in bushes, i love shotguns, and i dont snipe with Long ammo. Even as a solo Player I reach 6 stars without trying or caring about it.

I usually hover between 5 and 6 star MMR and let me tell you....nothing wants me to not play more than sitting in a 5-6 star lobby. When my friends and I start getting in the higher MMR matches, the constant sentiment is "Alright, time to go play quickplay and hopefully die to some 2 star MMR players!" We just go in, shoot in the sky in the middle of the field and hope to get head shotted. The MMR system in this game does not balance gameplay and objective based play. Any time I see anyone who is 6 star, I assume they will be sitting in a bush most of the game. That's why I don't hang out there for long.

For me it is the same feeling but different... because every time i enter the '6 stars realm' there is lots of avtomats and nitros trash-talk sweatlords... most of them using macros for canceling the avto's recoil and 3rd party programs with "crosshair generators" for Nitros... i admit... i rather lose MMR to have fun, and most of times i low my rank on purpose.

@froozenzitroone3915

Жыл бұрын

Oof... When I here that, I'm happy to play on console

@kevvdo2851

Жыл бұрын

@@froozenzitroone3915 Mate got 6 star today and it's the same on console avto everywhere is fucking annoying wished they deleted that gun

New year new subscriber, doing my part in getting you to 100k

Good vid man, hopefully it reaches the devs.

I noticed on console the higher you climb mmr the more explosive crossbow you see. Very funny.

Hunt's MMR system is so incredibly fucked. I hover between 4 and 5 stars, and when I want to play with newer friends, our match MMR usually sits at 3,5. Plenty of times we get matched against teams with two 5 stars and one 6 stars, or two 6 stars and one 5 stars. Absolute nightmare to play.

wdym I got to six star twice, that shit is kinda easy to get if you don't suck, just go for every bounty that got banished and preferable go to where you heard shots

Man, i am a 4 star that regularly hits 5 stars and each it happens i get killed by some sniper trio or bush warriors. It's so obnoxious that being the high mmr makes game WORSE and you as a player don't feel like it gives a satisfaction of becoming better at the game.

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My experiences with matchmaking off have been just as toxic and punishing as 6 star lobbies

@logictom7254

Жыл бұрын

Especially since a three star could be fighting a 6 star in sbmm.

10:35 what them fingers do though...

Now my take on this is: who want's to even stay at high star level? The game is more fun at 3-4 star, where there are less pro-players headtapping you the moment they see you.

I don't even play with mmr in mind, I play for the bounty. I feel like if you play for mmr the game isn't as fun, adds unnecessary stress

Turning off SBMM will still match you with people in your MMR range it just adds lower MMR if you can't find people in your range problem is majority of players are around mid 4 star to low 5 star so if that is your MMR it won't change anything.

@lemondruid2783

Жыл бұрын

Not fair for people who are sitting lower though

Such a familiar nickname. I think I played with you a couple of times.

I honestly find more bushwookies in 3-4* than 5-6*

Nooooo, feeling bad for the awesome trademark thumbnails

Nice

(talking about the mini rant) i think the best way to fix this is to make it so getting downed and ressed "stores" the mmr loss and either reduces/discards it if you aren't redskulled if you are you suffer the full mmr penalty and dying in anyway other then getting teamkilled should obviously reduce mmr

@TheAnnoyedOne

Жыл бұрын

I'll probably make a vid where i give an actual rank system idea that makes sense for this game

I don't really know how MMR works tbh, a few days ago in a match where I didn't kill anyone or have any assists or die, I went from 5 stars to 6 stars, so God knoes what's this all about

I play since 2018 and the sbmm makes every game like the one before. I like to be mixed with good and bad players cause it makes the encounters more unpredictable. Why not have a ranked sbmm and a casual without......

@lockofmetal8894

Жыл бұрын

Because you can't in Hunt. This game doesn't work like r6siege or csgo. Not even Tarkov has "ranked" queues.

@TheAnnoyedOne

Жыл бұрын

You absolutely can make ranked in Hunt. Hunt is not a game focused on loot like Tarkov. I'll be talking about 2 different ranked queues that make sense in a future video (1 for quickplay, 1 for bounty hunt)

@lockofmetal8894

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAnnoyedOne Hunt doesn't have "loot" but it still has money. You could might aswell replace the loot in tarkov with pouches for example. And in hunt you have equipment to buy. Why would people play ranked? And ranked would suck ass, nothing but meta weapons xd. No one would move in fear of being shot or sniped. The game would be filled to the brim with campers.

@TheAnnoyedOne

Жыл бұрын

@@lockofmetal8894 I see that you never played tarkov if you think loot there can be replaced with pouches. Hunt is already filled with meta slaves anyway in high MMR. I'll make a vid about it, then you'll notice it takes 5 minutes of actively using your brain to figure out a good ranked system for hunt

@lockofmetal8894

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAnnoyedOne Or you're just naive to think that the game can have one. But ye guess im just incapable of using my brain. And ye i do not play Tarkov. But the games arn't vastly different either. Both work on a extraction shooter. Tarkov a bit more punishing, afaik you cannot revive people. But Hunt would not work with a ranked/casual system. Would just be simpler if they added how mmr works in other games & applied it to Hunt. I posted a long text in another comment. But tldr was just to have a fixed mmr you lose upon death, that doesn't immediatly toss you down the gutter if you die to a lower ranked. Nor does it take you to high heavens if you kill a higher ranked.

Sure theres a group in 5/6 that play for KD and do the typical bush rat strategies. There are a lot of players in that bracket that do not play like that, they reach 5/6 just because they play the game well.

I'm usually a 5-6 star just because of being good at the game, I can never hold 6 for long because it's just either spam frags or sitting in bushes. When I play for fun my mmr naturally goes up. I disagree abt the 4 star thing, most of them are bold but don't know what they are doing (atleast on console) I can never fall to a 4 star, no matter how bad my games get. Holding 6 star longer than 2 weeks is hard for me because there isn't enough 6 stars on console in daytime it's usually 4-5's mmr. To become a solid 6 star you need to kill 6 stars. Or kill lots of 5's which usually leaves you at 4 and a half for awhile. Mmr system is..confusing 😓

Please explain better how you see your real mmr! (i was solo vs 3 6* and all my enemies were 6* as well

They should introduce Objective MMR and put it next to PVP MMR (Original MMR)

rip your awesome thumbnails. they were a big reason how I found you, but I get it.

i like to rush... so its works 70/30 and im just 3-4 star

ppl in 3-star still have 1.7 KDa's so it's just about whether you're a more boring person specifically hunting MMr rather than playing the game normally.

People talking so much about ranked, but no one takes the region to account. Ive been recently testing US EAST - EUROPE - RUSSIA servers back and forth and there is enormous difference, im hovering between 5 and 4 stars and US EAST (granted for me has a bit of ping since I live in europe) is the most fun. Russia is full of bush cockroaches and plenty hackers, Europe has sweatlords if you go above 4 stars. US EAST is fun and joyful through ranks 4 and 5, it gets a bit tryhard at 6 stars on US but its not as insane as on russia or europe

@TouruZen

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And then there is Oceana where the servers are so dead you could load into a bounty hunt or quickplay by yourself and just have the map to yourself. Or you could meet some fun people. But yeah there is a clear difference in the servers as well. I play with a friend from Europe and a friend from the US and when I do we go to EU or US east and both feel vastly different to each other in terms of play-style like you said.

Thank you, finally someone says it...

Hunt Showdown *Crouch Walk Editon*

Nice.

@TheAnnoyedOne

Жыл бұрын

Nice.

4 stars is much better than 5 star lobbies my opinion and I'm a regular 5 but I choose to derank to 4 too have more fun and meet people...because in 5 for some reason people tend not to hardly chat like they to focused or too serious F knows tbh but that's my experience.

IBH, 4-5 star is pretty fun, everyone knows the game and is playing like a normal person…. 6 Stars are *Good* but a lot of them play the game in weird ways that doesn’t look like it’s even fun for them, like Lebel Spitzer sniping. Also seen a lot of rage mongers that use recoil macros.

What are your settings? I like to see in the dark too!

@TheAnnoyedOne

Жыл бұрын

There's a vid on my channel with settings

If they would just fix the left peek advantage and all the head glitches. The mmr would not be an issue.

HOLY SHIT! THAT WAS ME ON THE STAIRS!

Honestly MMR needs to be focused around kills AND bounty. The objective of the game should award MMR enough to make up for a couple times you get downed achieving it. Also four star is best star cus melee doesn't get you instantly headshotted even if you surprise someone tbh. The amount of bomb lance kills from flashes and bees I get or just ambushes is so funny Medium ammo needs a couple buffs and long needs a couple nerfs. Simple as. Also remove avtomat. I get consistently two tapped by it at ridiculous ranges, like 40-50m + sometimes. Or make it compact ammo

How do you know your exact MMR?

2:52 If by saying "the last time I ever touch SBMM" you are talking about the SBMM check box in the menu, you ought to look up what that actually does. It doesn't actually turn SBMM off.

@TheAnnoyedOne

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Yeah i noticed that recently, makes no sense why it works this way. Everytime a game is boring and full of campers it turns out we're the only ones with SBMM disabled... What's even the point of the checkbox

@jehree9850

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@@TheAnnoyedOne The point of the checkbox is to decrease queue time/ try and go against higher mmr people to rank up faster. I agree its naming is a bit wack though. It's basically an option that says "I don't mind if the game I queue into is balanced or not." It will still TRY to balance it though, it will just prioritize queueing you with others with the box unchecked first.

nooo not the thumbnails

Going to miss the sexy thumbnails.. they truly was works of art. Great series dude. keep it up

Please no, you dont understand. I push, I rush, I do wacky shit, but I can't get out of 5Star hell unless I deliberately get myself killed, which feels pretty shite tbh. Every once in a blue moon the game will put me back to 4stars, and I proceed to have a really fun game but Oop, right back up to 5 stars. I swear I'm not even that fucking good lmao

Im 100% agreed with you. When i was on 5-6 MMR, i suffered from the boring long-ammo-meta gameplay and forcing to camping. But when i started drop my MMR to 4-5, the gameplay become really funny and challenging. Every 2nd player pushing you without fear to lose some abstract cifers in stats, literally everybody plays more active and the game really become western-style shooter instead of sniper duels. I realised that most of 5-6 MMR are forgot how to have fun from game and drowned into stats-fapping. Cyberathletes should not rule the games.

that hand clip man I almost cried XD

Cowboi shootin

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its strange you made this video, i have been thinking the same as well. i sit similarly to you concerning stars and just decided to only solo any time i had a bad streak id go down to 4/low 5 and i swear the people i was going against would spend like 15 minutes in a compound for no reason at all. i actually was able to banish the bosses three times, kill myself and see where everyone is and they would all be at like their second or third compound. what i like about higher mmr is that these guys are going straight to shots and straight to objectives so they will either be at the nearest fight or nearest boss within like 60 seconds. so many times id find some guy in a random ass spot, kill him and wonder why the fuck he was here or even entire teams, lower mmr may be "more fun" if you like just killing people, but i prefer killing people who have a real goal in mind and are as dangerous as i am

@Mr-HaZe

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I agree man, leave beginners so they can get good lol

@lockofmetal8894

Жыл бұрын

This, 100% agree. GameswithDeath or whatever that guy is called who also streams. He made a video regarding SBMM that it was bad, because now him & his 6 star buddies no longer can face 3 stars. And it will make the game more sweaty for them. People who QQ that high mmr is difficult & wants 4 star, only wants it so they can stomp on bad players. And i said that to them aswell, you just want to kill bad players & they're like "naah, we just don't want super sweaty games all the time." Like ye, it's because you PLAY sweaty that you end up there in the first place. Just look at the highlight videos on KZread. You see streamers killing these absolutely clueless players. It's entertaining to watch. But thats them killing 3-4stars who are still new to the game. Downraking in QP is super popular, just because of this reason.

I hate being stuck at 5* its just way less fun

The ranking system is not supposed to be a progression system

I hate 6stars it’s all long range ammo and no one pushes for 45 min. 5 stars is nuanced enough that you get a variety of gameplays. 4 stars is fun af. Anything lower is fish in a barrel

Prestige 0 and under lvl100 - that the reason they crouch walking

I haven't had a problem w/ SBMM for 4 and 5 star except at very specific times, usually around event/twitch drop time. That's when all the super-sweaty kids come out to play it seems. "off-season" hasn't really been a problem for me. That being said I'm also a fucking madman and play SBMM w/ trio randoms lol You haven't lived until you've SBMM random'd as a 4 star in a 5-star lobby with two other 6-star players, Or vice versa, You're the 5-star and getting pulled down into 3-star because of other two players.

the amount of times i have been killed by people just sitting in bushes in high mmr still makes me want to off myself

5-6 star is absolutely brutal and not fun at all. low 5-star can be fun, but the most fun will always be in 4-stars. 6-star is the worst don’t hate yourself enough to go there.

That weird hand glitch had me in tears laughing

someone can give me link to this film with mmr?

I was consistently a high 5 to 6 star mmr player on good days, played the game for nearly 600 hours and this skill based system has made me quit playing the game. It’s just not fun to play against passive long ammo players all game for 30 minutes for a couple of kills

With that sistem ill rather gonna try to get 100 pres than 6 star....