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@danielsantiagourtado3430

10 ай бұрын

This channel rocks

@ignitionfrn2223

Ай бұрын

I encourage you to look for *Essai sur le duel* by Louis Alfred Le Blanc de Chatauvillard There is all the rules for the 3 mains types of duel (Épée , Sabre & pistol)

I saw a very realistic duel in the movie The Duelists (1977) where the main takeaway from the scene was _"Notice how both men are trying very hard not to get stabbed"_ . Rather than an 80s action movie scene where the hero fights with reckless abandon, both actors are making every effort to extend their swords to maximum reach and to try to stretch every bit of their bodies away from the other sword. Each move is timed and deliberate, and the fight plays out more like a chess game mixed with sniper school - you might even call it boring, but reality often can be.

@samsignorelli

10 ай бұрын

Yeah....th4e first one in that film is probably the most realistic duel on film ever, especially in the case where one combatant is highly skilled and the other is a noob.

@mingodingo

10 ай бұрын

I know that scene, and while I *appreciate* it for being perhaps the most realistic sword duel scene ever made... it was boring to watch and should be enlightening to anyone who says, "but dats unrealistic!" when watching a swordfight in a movie

@MaaZeus

10 ай бұрын

@@mingodingo There can be happy medium though. Check channel Adorea Olomouc. They create sword fighting videos where they use actual historical fighting techniques (I guess they are all HEMA practitioners) but with a little cinematic flare on top to keep things interesting and engaging for the viewer. Obviously this requires actors to actually learn some coreography instead of relying on jump cuts and shaky cams, practice that seems to be a dying art in modern CGI ridden movie making.

@midshipman8654

10 ай бұрын

Well, I think both ways can happen. sometime rushdowns do occur. “the wait is worse than the act” sort of thing. Maybe one thinks hes outclassed so tries to test his luck with a bull rush. double hits where far from unknown in historical duels. depends on tempo and where the peoples mindsets are at. maybe somes a bit more angry then trepidatious, maybe they are more calculating, maybe they are more cautious. Maybe a lucky or skillful lunge gets someone quick, or maybe its more prolonged. can go down in different ways.

@BaronVonQuiply

10 ай бұрын

@@midshipman8654 I read a book series in the 90s that dealt with swordplay as it was a Nordic Vikingr inspired world. One memorable passage had the sword master commenting on how an untrained opponent can be dangerous because the adept is used to fighting with specific actions and the novice is going to be unpredictable sheerly due to lack of training. eg, maybe I feint and then strike, but my opponent doesn't recognize the first move and so doesn't react the way I expected and my actual strike doesn't land while their wild flailing manages to catch me.

Okay, I just want to add a little personal story. In the 1990s, my parents lived in Rocquencourt, near Versailles. One time while visiting them in 1992, my brother and I took our fencing sabres and went to Versailles. We fenced in public at Le Trianon in front of the entrance. Everyone stopped to stare and applaud as we did. It was a fantastic summer day, blue sky, gorgeous weather. We figure we may be some of the only people to have crossed swords there in recent history (hard to believe it was 31 years ago now!) Of course we were fencing, not dueling. 😃

@danjutsu8809

10 ай бұрын

So... Who won!?

@NathanielHarari

10 ай бұрын

​@@danjutsu8809 Me. Naturally. 🤣 Actually, we were. just doing it for fun. We weren’t keeping score at all.

@Loralanthalas

10 ай бұрын

❤❤❤ sounds absolutely beautiful. Thanks for sharing the memory.

@NathanielHarari

10 ай бұрын

@@Loralanthalas You're welcome! It was a very fun day. I'll never forget it. A great memory with my brother. BTW, we also did the same at the top of Masada in Israel a few months before (which prompted this Versailles fencing expedition). We figure we're probably the first person in 2000 years to cross swords at the top of Masada. We actually hiked up the snake path with our equipment and our university class at dawn to do that. It was very hard, but worth it. 😀 (A lot of tourists took pictures and we fenced together with also two other friends we were teaching how to fence since months)

@CheekyPseudonym

10 ай бұрын

Growing up, my dad (now 85 years old), told me a story of when his Uncle Harry was challenged to a dual The dispute was over a girl Harry was athletic, but fencing wasn't something he did As the story goes "Uncle Harry charged him, like a retard"; the challenger realized that there were no rules, and forfeited I wish you could hear Dad tell the story

"I demand satisfaction!" "As does your wife, yet I suspect neither of you will receive it any time soon."

I met someone who fought a duel, although it was in Italy and not France. Giorgio Santelli was quite old when he attended one of my college fencing team practices at the invitation of my coach, who had been a student of his. It seems it was Santelli's father Italo who had issued the challenge, and he sent his son to stand in for him. The duel was fought with heavy cavalry sabres, and when Giorgio dealt a severe wound to his opponent's head the match was declared to be over. It wouldn't have been a fair fight either way. Italo had basically invented the sport of modern sabre fencing, and his work in Hungary around the turn of the century established a fencing tradition in that country which endures to this day. Giorgio himself was part of the Italian team that won the gold medal in sabre fencing at the 1920 Olympics. After immigrating to the United States he would coach the US men's sabre teams from 1928 to 1952.

“Foil” is a cylinder. Like a long flexible nail. Epee has a sharp edge at the tip. Saber is fully sharpened slashing blade

@the-chillian

10 ай бұрын

A foil is not a cylinder, but has a square or rectangular cross-section, and this was true even in the days when you could expect an epee or sabre to have a sharp point or edge. (Modern fencing weapons, of course, have neither.)

@ahseaton8353

10 ай бұрын

Traditionally, the saber is fully sharpened on the bottom/curved side and also sharpened one third of the back from the tip. It was designed as a replacement for the cavalry lance and used from horseback. The back was sharpened to make it easier to pull it out of a body as the horse and rider galloped on.

@ZachBurns-gu9zk

10 ай бұрын

Foil construction wasn’t necessarily my point as much as implying the sharp edge of an epee and the potential damage

@alissapyrich1891

10 ай бұрын

I've fenced epee for more than 30 years. No off the rack epee has a sharp edge.

@the-chillian

10 ай бұрын

@@alissapyrich1891 I gave him the benefit of the doubt that he was talking about an épée de combat such as they would use for dueling, not the competitive fencing weapon.

Not to take anything away from the Star Wars light saber battles or the Princess Bride duels or Zatoichis' sword play ... but ... Tyrone Power and Basil Rathbone in the Mark of Zorro, best duel ever!!!

@jamesfrost126

10 ай бұрын

Good one, but I prefer Rathbone and Errol Flynn in The Adventures of Robin Hood.

Dam how close one of my favorite books came to not existing this is why I love you channels Simon you are a legend.

Growing up, my dad (now 85 years old), told me a story of when his Uncle Harry was challenged to a dual The dispute was over a girl Harry was athletic, but fencing wasn't something he did As the story goes "Uncle Harry charged him, like a retard"; the challenger realized that there were no rules, and forfeited

2:59....the fencing armorer in me says "that sabre guard's seen better days."

There are lots of "duels" about two towns away from my residence. My ex-GF always complains that so many people get injured on a weekly basis there that she and her paramedic team sometimes needed at least two ambulances to accommodate the injured. No one dared to disclose how they got their injuries and investigators couldn't even get infos from anyone in that town. I guess there are duels there or they just don't talk about their "fight club" or something.

The greatest "duel" of modern times is that of Uwe Boll challenging his critics to a boxing match... with some of them believing it was just a PR stunt and that Boll wasn't actually going to beat the hell out of them... They were wrong. 👁️👄👁️👌

@carpenoctem3257

10 ай бұрын

Boxing is nothing. Egos are on the line, not lives. Get two KZreadrs to dual with sharp swords or pistols and I’ll pay 500 to watch it personally

@Loralanthalas

10 ай бұрын

​@@carpenoctem3257and the dark web starts all over again

@grimslade0

10 ай бұрын

@@carpenoctem3257 "Not lives"?... I beg to differ. It's a risk to one's life just watching a Boll film, imagine living it! Also, you'd pay 500... what? 500 what!?

@eggtarts286

10 ай бұрын

500 dollars for one or two lives on the line sounds way too cheap. Try 500 thousand. That should cover the medical bills.

@midshipman8654

10 ай бұрын

@@carpenoctem3257well, id say its not AS high risk, but its still risky and difficult and requires guts in more then one way. most duels had ego on the line too.

The last duel lol, me and my brother have crossed blades in the our childhood many times. I still have some of the scars still

02:45 that's probably the most French aristocrat way to say am gonna cut his balls 😂

I'm surprised the 1843 duel between two Frenchmen with billiard balls didn't make the cut.

The last... in France! Because the very first last sword duel was in Argentina, in november 3rd, 1968. It was between Yolivan Biglieri, a lawyer and journalist and admiral Benigno Varela. Both were expert fencers, so the duel lasted 30 minutes, when the doctors present there stopped the duel; both duelists had multiple cuts on their faces and torsos.

@HilaLeftMe

10 ай бұрын

😂

I was unaware of non-lethal duels. Very interesting.

The twist... they were both not left handed.

@Loralanthalas

10 ай бұрын

I can sleep in peace now. Thank you.

Zuko vs. Zhao Agni Kai energy.

Even in our modern world today, a sword can be a very effective weapon, as the guy who tried breaking into my apartment through the kitchen window quickly learned some years back.

@idontcare-ct7jm

10 ай бұрын

Within 20 feet in an enclosed space, real swords are scarier than handguns imo

@Ventus_the_Heathen

10 ай бұрын

As someone who does HEMA and also regularly practices fighting over sim guns (I'm in VIP protection, it's a legitimate concern that I could have to do that). I'll say, the sim guns are harder to not "die" to but if you can get it to malfunction it becomes a fist fight. When you're wrestling over a sword it never stops being a crazy scramble to not get "cut or stabbed". That being said I don't wanna fight someone with either but if it's already in their hands I'd rather them have them have the sword everytime. I have a far lower success rate at not getting shot than not getting sliced and diced

@Amandcr

10 ай бұрын

Red Letter Media did a video on edged weapons that was a training video for police. It also contained a sword so they are concerned about it.

00:00: 🤺 In 1967, the last sword duel in French history took place between a mayor and a parliamentary deputy. 2:31: 🤺 A brief duel between Paul Bastille and Riviera diverse took place in France, despite dueling being illegal since the 17th century. 4:57: 🤺 Proust engaged in a duel to defend his honor against accusations of homosexuality. 7:16: 🤺 Various duels that took place in different years involving different individuals. 9:40: 🤺 The history of French duels and the noble concept of defending honor and principles. 12:04: 🤣 During a duel, Dumas' opponent asked him to remove his jacket, vest, and shirt, but Dumas' pants fell down due to a broken belt buckle, leading to a good laugh from the crowd. However, the duel ended without any serious injuries, allowing Dumas to go on and write the famous novel, The Count of Monte Cristo. Recap by Tammy AI

love this channel. You REALLY learn something new everyday 😊😊😊😊😊😊

9:25 Thus marking the utterance of the first “That’s what your mum said!” quip.

Dueling was a real problem in 17th C France. It cost Louis XIII a couple of hundred younger noblemen each year - people who were supposed to fight as officers in his armies.

I think it's a very civilized and gentlemanly way of settling a dispute

The modern duel in courts with lawyers instead of swords and pistol, it’s much more lethal

On 7 January 2012, two middle-aged farmers were wounded after a bolo duel over the harvest of rice in a village in Zamboanga City, Philippines.

Thank you for your videos.

Dueling laws may still be somewhere in Canadian legislation. Not everything has been amended in time.

I have heard that Otto von Bismarck backed down only once from a duel. He challenged Rudolf Virchow, a physician, to a duel. Bismarck was an expert with both sword and pistol, and had survived many duels. While French duels were typically fought to first blood, German duels were fought to the death. Virchow showed up at the appointed time and place with two seconds, each of whom held a wooden box. Virchow informed Bismarck that each box contained a sack, and each sack contained a sausage. "Oner of the sausages has been infected with deadly cholera germs, and the other is safe. Do you choose a sausage, Prince, and I will take the other. We will stand ten feet apart, and eat our sausages."

In 1968 it was a duele with swords in Argentina between a Argentinian polítician and a journalist. It was a film of it. Forgive My bad English.

Hang on I saw a video of a couple gentlemen with no shirt dueling with machetes in the road in the UK not too long ago.

How dare you wrongly accused me stealing the cookie in the fridge? To restore the honor which have lost to your vile tongue, I demand a duel to the death

Yes, society would be far more polite with the occasional punch in the mouth.

Did not expect this to be a list of French Duels in the 19th and 20th century. Honestly, I expected a duel in 1967 affecting literature would have involved Robert Heinlein, for some reason. In the modern 21st century, it might be a good idea to bring back dueling but with non lethal weapons, like foam swords or paint ball guns

@ErikBramsen

10 ай бұрын

In one of his books, Heinlein scoffs at non-lethal duels like mensur. Can't remember the title, alas, the man wrote a million books.

@_pp7473

8 ай бұрын

Fun fact: Duels are still legal in France, so long as a judge approves of it.

Fact boi has joined the elites: Nord sponsorship

Sometimes I think we need to bring this back in the US.

dueling is a very interesting subject in what it reveals about the degree and nature of face and personal honor historically.

En garde!

We once used swords and pistols to duel. Now we rely on Children's Card Games. And the stakes have never been higher.

I know very little about swords, but I do know what an epee is. It is an extremely thin cylindrical blade with a very small and very sharp pointed tip. The swords that you illustrated the video with when talking about the first duel all had flat blades with the entire edge of one side of the blade sharpened. And epee is of only very little danger to a duelist, unlike the latter type of blade which at worst can sever a body part.

@merseyviking

10 ай бұрын

Indeed, at no point in the whole video did I see an epee! Most were rapiers and sabres.

@samsignorelli

10 ай бұрын

An epee has a triangualr cross section, not circular, and they're not really THAT thin.

@the-chillian

10 ай бұрын

No, an epee is not a cylinder. It has a triangular cross-section, and it's only the _épée de combat_ meant for actual dueling that has a point. And I'm sure Simon has no control over the clips used to illustrate his text. The sword pictured at 1:44 is in fact a rapier which is, as you correctly note, sharpened along its entire length -- although both edges, not just the front. If you meant the sword being drawn at 1:32 that's indeed a sabre and would have had only one sharp edge. But the one at 2:50 is a modern fencing sabre and not sharpened at all.

Tell me you've never been to Haiti without saying the words... Ps. Duelling / non-martial sword play is one of the most influential aspects to fashion up until probably the 1900's. Ps 2. Duelling is no longer illegal in Canada. (They'll just charge you with assault.)

And then there are the tragedies: Évariste Galois, mathematician extraordinaire, died of wounds suffered in a duel at the age of 20 years. "While still in his teens, he was able to determine a necessary and sufficient condition for a polynomial to be solvable by radicals, thereby solving a problem that had been open for 350 years. His work laid the foundations for Galois theory and group theory, two major branches of abstract algebra." [Wikipedia]. Sadly, we'll never know what this mathematician, with such a potential for genius, might have accomplished had he not fought that duel. richard -- The sentence "i is complex." is syntactically correct.

this is impossible to watch this without subtitles

The music is too dominant in the mix. It is tough to understand Simon.

i'd love a duel with Mitch McConnel.

Given the various celebrity encounters with the civil legal system, it might be more interesting if they could challenge each other to a duel. Though in some cases I would support duels to second or third blood.

great video fact boy but please do the podcast again

Considering that people have insulted and degraded one another throughout time whether or not dueling was a thing, no I do not think dueling would change anything. Humans have always been like this

Lemme guess-the idea for this video came from Musk's cage match challenge to Zuckerberg?

Rebuttal in 1984 nikki sixx of mötley crüe banged iron maiden singer Bruce Dickinsons then partner and Bruce repeatedly challenged Nikki to a duel which I do believe went down

8:05 disarmed*

Im sure sword duels continued in more remote countries.

@mikesands4681

10 ай бұрын

Knife fights are daily occurrence in uk

Renee Picard? Isn't that Jean Luc's brother?

Didnt a Power Ranger get in a sword fight?

"Razor sharp épées"???

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This was not the last dule. To my knolage, the last sword dule took place 3 nights ago when my friend Mike and I decided to settle the matter of what pizza to order via the blade to first blood. Don't argue with your drunk friend while drunk when you're both HEMA nerds, kids!

do a celebrity boxing match with the guy from thoughty2

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Guarantee that "smart" fool Metatron is somewhere acting like he's a historian....

Simon, loooooong time viewer of the channel and a huge fan! Videos are still rocking but the music in the background makes it so distracting to hear what you actually have to say. The background sounds take away from the awesome storytelling.

The music is way too loud in this video

They say the French are a bunch of 🐱ussies But this seems remarkably masculine

@RHCole

10 ай бұрын

Duels are stupid, not masculine.

@joecool9739

10 ай бұрын

​@@RHCole Did you just insult my opinion? This violation of my honour and good-standing requires an answer I challenge you to a duel

@RHCole

10 ай бұрын

​​@@joecool9739Go duel your own God given sword and you will receive your satisfaction.

@joecool9739

10 ай бұрын

@@RHCole (Whips it out) *ON GUARD!*

@Talisguy

10 ай бұрын

​@@RHCole You say that as if stupidity and masculinity have ever been mutually exclusive.

I never understood why duels were outlawed in the first place. If two people, men or women, agree of sound mind & body to kill or be killed, as long as no one else is injured, why the fuck can't they!?

why swords when by 1967 guns were easier to make and cheap?

“Proust” is pronounced “proost”, not “prowst”!

Simon, I challenge you to a duel...........allegedly! 😎

The last duel was in 2002 between James Bond and Gustave Graves.

Imagine how respectful our society would be if you could be challenged to a duel for a slight.

Two Whistlers in the middle of the night Got up and prepared to fight Took ten paces from one another Drew their swords and shot each other Ye good joke. 😅😅

@housellama

10 ай бұрын

Ladies and gentlemen, hobos and tramps, Crossed-eyed mosquitos and bowlegged ants, I stand before you to speak behind you To tell you the story of the two dead boys, One early morning in the middle of the night, The two dead boys got up to fight Back to back they faced each other Drew their swords and shot each other. The deaf policeman heard the noise And came to rescue the two dead boys If you don't believe my lie is true, Ask the blind man, he saw it too.

So 2 gay guys fought a duel because each accused the other of being gay?..... Just F and get it out of your systems already boys

Bring back dueling. Especially after political debates.

Would not bad idea to bring this ritual back!

How many French sword duels were declared over when one combatant got a nick on the arm or wrist? According to this video a lot!

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Why does Simon have such a problem with pronunciation?

Proust: don't say prowst, say proost. It's French ;-)

I'm vaguely annoyed that all the references to epees are illustrated with images of rapiers and sabres 😅

Duels are stupid. Why play with instruments of death to only draw blood? I fee a good old boxing or street right would be better since then each gets out their aggression and no one will die and just do that to 1st blood or one yields. I always imagined a duel was to the death??

Dueling should still be allowed. NO LAWYERS involved or allowed. It would bring back some honor and dignity back to society.

@RHCole

10 ай бұрын

How about we don't take a massive step back in society because you wish to harm someone else over words, ya Neanderthal.

@lo0nyt0onz

10 ай бұрын

People need to have honor to duel. People these days have no honor 😂

@Caliber50bmg

10 ай бұрын

@@lo0nyt0onz Yes. By and whole I agree!

2 gay men having a dual because one made remarks of the other being gay. That's a hell of a thing, ain't it?😂😂😂

Bruh wtf

Just to talk a little smack on a long dead guy- Count of Monte Cristo is not a very good book 😮

LMAO the 2 gay guys dualling.

Why are you no longer the host on geographics.

I make a point of telling the YT algorithm not to "recommend" any of this cynical money-grubber's numerous channels every time one of his vids is "suggested" by it.

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I cannot stand the crappy music

Slow down. You're talking too fast while dropping all these French names.

Simon I used to love watching your videos but you became a bit too over excited and your demeanour is not as likeable as before.

Lame