You are right with the film taking risks especially with but the problem is how it was executed. People were expecting so much from Luke's reappearance after 30 years since ROTJ ended and since TFA was teasing his importance to the whole narrative and why the characters need him only for TLJ to have him in the first scene of TLJ to throw his father's lightsaber and just walk away in a unintentional comedic manner. Also people wanted exact and in-depth reasons why he had to repeat the same mistakes he had avoided in the OT, and why he chose to abandon his sister and friend. Also it does not even seem to help that Luke dies after 'redeeming' himself instead of continuing to train the next generation of the jedi. But by the way Great Job!!

@thedudewhomadethisvideo

21 күн бұрын

Yeah, his appearance in The Force Awakens is completely different to how he is in The Last Jedi. At the end of the film he seems to give Rey a sort of knowing look like he was expecting her, but then in The Last Jedi he is completely dismissive of her. Why would there be a map to his location if he intended to die on the island alone? That doesn’t make sense. So it is jarring. It’s why I said it didn’t seem to fit in the trilogy. Watching it as a standalone film it does work I’d say with Luke’s character, but not following The Force Awakens. I’ll make a video on that film at some point. Thank you for watching dude, I appreciate it

I honestly agree on a lot of your points, but I think you misunderstood Finn in TFA. He doesn't care about the resistance at all, when he and Han are on Starkiller Base he mentions that he isn't even sure if he can turn the shields off, he just wanted to save Rey. At no point does he actually want to fight for their cause

@thedudewhomadethisvideo

24 күн бұрын

Thank you for watching. I do recall that yeah he was only going back to care for Rey, even though he helped them I guess he wasn’t won over by staying. I still wish he had a better character arc in The Last Jedi because it does seem to be a sort of repeat of The Force Awakens. Shame as well he never met Kylo again after their fight.

@chefkochkawasaki4127

23 күн бұрын

@@thedudewhomadethisvideo I agree with you, I don't mind the whole Canto Bight thing, but it's just vastly less interesting compared to the actual main plot. Well at least this movie gave Finn his own arc and story, unlike the next one...

@HeartlessSlayer

22 күн бұрын

@@chefkochkawasaki4127 Funny enough, both you and @thedudwhomadethisvideo probably didn't know, but John Boyega HATED his story in TLJ, as he came out with everything that happened behind the scenes and how he, and other POC actors got shafted. He had to fight just to keep his character in the movie and they barely did anything with him. With all of the faults RoS did with him, he still prefers that over Finn's story in TLJ.

This is my favorite of the sequels; the darker tone and how it challenges the expectations worked for me. Just wished that it did take it all the way with Rey joining Kylo though if she had to resist then the other change would be to let Luke live. Still, I do love that Leia trains her in Rise.

@kafukwamekemeh

14 күн бұрын

Yeah wished Rey joined the dark side and Snoke didn't get killed of The training was mostly mininal and just her running obstacle courses.

@Iwillone

14 күн бұрын

@@kafukwamekemeh Sure, which calls back to Luke’s swamp run under Yoda but it was a year of training with Leia as her Master. I didn’t care much for Snoke though; was audibly happy when he got cut in half by Kylo.

@kafukwamekemeh

14 күн бұрын

@@Iwillone I mean the waste of Snoke as a good villain

nothing bankrolled to the tune of $300 million budget will genuinely be subversive.

@thedudewhomadethisvideo

18 күн бұрын

Rian did have full creative control of this film, weird when other directors didn’t get that luxury. But he probably had to revert back to how things were due to Disney is a guess

Thank you for addressing the culture war channels that permeate my KZread recommendations. I make it a point to label them "do not recommend this channel" but, invariably, there are a fresh batch showing up, lately even Jordan Peterson crap, to boot... the Patron Saint of Righteous Indignation. Anyhow, looks like KZread is following the Facebook school of marketing by promoting controversial, outrage based themes as they generally increase engagement, etc. Thanks again.

@thedudewhomadethisvideo

25 күн бұрын

I think when talking about The Last Jedi in retrospect you need to mention them, the film did practically birth them and they are really annoying channels yes. Thank you for watching

@zogwort1522

19 күн бұрын

You're right. Righteous Indignation only belongs in space operas, where characters go on side-quests to voice concerns about war profiteering and animal abuse. This is the only scenario where Righteous Indignation is acceptable. On youtube, it isn't.

With the sequels, nobody ever talks about any kind of love for the characters or the actors who play those characters. In fact it just seems to be all about Rian vs JJ and that's about it. When you hear Star Wars fans talk about either the OT or PT, they have a real love for the characters and for the actors who play those characters and for relationships that are formed both on and off screen. This adds to the fun of being a Star Wars fan. The sequels just don't seem to be part of the family. And defending the sequels by attacking the prequels is just getting boring now.

@KRobinson-ko1ne

22 күн бұрын

Nothing against the actor, they’re fine; the problem is really the way the trilogy undermines the original story of the original six films and they’re main players I won’t go on for too long but by having the empire and the emperor rising to power again(if they were ever defeated) Luke’s story and that of his friends and comrades is pointless especially when they all meet their in the form of a humiliating defeat. They’re not even effective as mentors: Rey single-handedly triumphs with no help whatsoever from them(I’m not counting the training session Leia gave her as she doesn’t teach her any new or specific skills relevant to the plot)

@kendrathompson5207

22 күн бұрын

@KRobinson-ko1ne I agree with you totally. My point still stands, though, that sequel fans don't really have anything to say. I haven't learnt anything new here, I'm not rushing to watch the sequels, and I have Disney +. In contrast, earlier, I watched a video about Anakin. The youtuber told the story beautifully, and at the end, he recommended a book, and I have now ordered that book. He made you feel that there was more to learn.

@thedudewhomadethisvideo

22 күн бұрын

That is a good point, but I’d say give it a decade or 2. The generation that grew up with the sequels will have more of a nostalgic connection with the characters than those who didn’t. It happened with the prequels, so give it time.

@kendrathompson5207

22 күн бұрын

@thedudewhomadethisvideo you're talking like the sequels are new films. It's been a decade since TFA. Both the OT and PT had been hugely expanded on by this stage. In terms of story, characters, and actors.

@malikpierre-louis3343

17 күн бұрын

@@thedudewhomadethisvideo Hasn't it been like 7 years since Tlj came out it feels like there are less and less people who like it now.

Finally, a channel that actually analyzes the film and not just spew nonsense. I agree a lot of those reaction channels feel like they dont even know the lore of star wars, and how truly vast it is. The muti-media legends and cannon based lore of the franchise endless amount of stories through all eras of the galaxy far far away. Showing different genre beats, from action to romance and even horror. There's soooo much more to this universe than just the main 9 movies. And man, am I upset that the Solo sequeals got canned due to all the crying from The Last Jedi.

@thedudewhomadethisvideo

24 күн бұрын

Solo’s sequels mainly got canned because the film bombed at the box office, but yeah the mixed reception to The Last Jedi I am sure did impact it. But it’s a shame Star Wars is now really just on TV as opposed to a feature film.

@KRobinson-ko1ne

22 күн бұрын

The solo sequels because they failed to even make the budget back They went over budget because Kathy Kennedy announced multiple projects at once with no story or direction and just let multiple filmmakers run wild Of course, with solo she paid the price: she finally saw the 90% of the film that was shot and it didn’t suit her. She then had to hire Ron Howard to shoot it from scratch. They didn’t have any confidence in this film which is why they released in May instead of December and of course they couldn’t simply say, on a public platform, that they were wreckless(not in front of their shareholders)

Rian Johnson deliberately made the film controversial. He said he wanted to divide the fandom. I just wish he did it the way Captain America Civil War did. Both Cap and Iron Man's fans loved the movie yet are still debating which side is correct.

@thedudewhomadethisvideo

24 күн бұрын

Yeah I saw he said that, he tends to do that in his films. His response to the criticism didn’t help things either. I like certain choices he made, but not others. So much potential. Thank you for watching dude

@KRobinson-ko1ne

22 күн бұрын

I don’t think he did I do believe he wanted to do something ambitious but had to work within JJs mystery box approach and he didn’t quit know what. It’s obvious that he tried a lot of different ideas on set but ran out of time and money and had to piece together what he had This meant that he couldn’t reveal the truth of any encompassing plot points and had to wait for the third movie This is why Snoke dies without a name. This is why we learn nothing about the first order itself and get these self contained subplots with holdo and Cantobite. This is also why Rey is a nobody: they needed an “I am your father moment” but the only retractable answer(necessary depending on what the following filmmaker wanted to do) was she’s “nothing”. I know it seems ridiculous watching the whole trilogy through and I’m not disagreeing but the truth is JJ didn’t want to reveal the truth of Rey’s lineage till the end of the trilogy, assuming people would still be curious or at least the sunk cost fallacy would kick in The plan was to have a character like Kylo Ren who could very well have a motive for lying. Not to mention we don’t see Rey’s parents in the cave scene nor do we learn her surname

@starkiller1440

22 күн бұрын

@@KRobinson-ko1ne Actually, Rian Johnson admitted to wanting to make a controversial film on purpose during an interview.

@starkiller1440

22 күн бұрын

@@KRobinson-ko1ne He said he wanted to make a controversial film during an interview.

It's always great to see a video that isn't just "this film sucks because it's not a 1/1 replica of the old EU! That's not how this thing that never got explained in the films works!". You praise the film where it deserves praise, and call out its genuine failings. I've always wondered how much of stuff like the forced comedy and restoring of the status quo was because of it being sandwiched between two other films, and Disney. I hope that Rian's trilogy still comes out. He's willing to question the framework, not just nostalgia bait. Comparing TLJ to something like Mando S3 or other Disney shows (barring Andor but Andor is up there with Empire in terms of quality) is night and day. It's risk vs riskless. And a film with ambition usually beats out a film with no ambition (my eyes are staring at a copy of The Rise of Skywalker but you can't see it.) I heavily agree with you on the whole 'Fandom Menace' thing. Trying to find channels that can critique these franchises I like or love (Doctor Who) without stumbling on manchildren who want to stay in a bubble of white nostalgia. For Star Wars, Sheev Talks (despite his sequel bashing) and especially Star Wars Centralized are great channels that haven't been infected by the brainrot, but can still criticise (Sheev's recent video about TPM was really good, I mostly stuck by the Plinkett review of that film, but it makes some points...about that review and inception blahblah. Great video. His two parter on the Clone Wars really opened my eyes.)

@thedudewhomadethisvideo

21 күн бұрын

Thank you for watching and your very detailed comment, glad you enjoyed my video. I hope as well his trilogy comes out, don’t know if it’s cancelled or anything since we have had no update. He has the Knives Out films he is working on. I do agree though The Last Jedi may not be good as a whole, the risks he took make the film memorable compared to how safe the other films are. Those channels are not good for film criticism or the fandom. They just cause more division and in fighting. I wish they would come to their senses and go away but when you get millions of views for spreading negativity like that you’ll keep doing it to satisfy your audience.

The Last Jedi is canon breaking garbage that relies too much on past films.

@thedudewhomadethisvideo

17 күн бұрын

Just to ask but why do you think The Last Jedi relies on past films too much when it actively pushes against them with its themes and story. As you said it’s canon breaking so sounds to me like it ignores them.

@brandonbaggaley2317

17 күн бұрын

@@thedudewhomadethisvideo, the hyperspace ram. Why build a Death Star or steal said plans if the hyperspace ram exists? Just ram a Star Destroyer through Alderaan or ram an X-wing through the Death Star’s reactor. Planet destroyed and Death Star destroyed. The hyperspace ram should not exist. Then, there’s Mark Hamill’s comments about Luke during the promotion of the film. Luke is not Luke, but rather Jake Skywalker.

@thedudewhomadethisvideo

17 күн бұрын

@@brandonbaggaley2317 no no not the question I asked. You didn’t answer it. How does it relay on the other films too much as you claimed, when the film actively pushes against the past films? Breaking lore means it ignores them.

@brandonbaggaley2317

17 күн бұрын

@@thedudewhomadethisvideo, but it is the eighth entry in the saga and tenth on screen entry in the franchise after The Clone Wars, Rebels, and Rogue One. After nine previous entries, the rules of the universe are solidly established. Breaking lore and going against the past entries to such an extent breaks the suspension of disbelief that is essential in enjoying a movie. Yet, setting the movie in continuity with those previous films establishes a reliance on what came before. Luke's whole tirade about hubris is something that relies on the past. That whole tirade puts the Jedi as a whole down while ignoring how manipulative and cunning Palpatine was.

@thedudewhomadethisvideo

17 күн бұрын

@@brandonbaggaley2317 yes it’s the 8th entry and breaks the established rules of the lore, so then it doesn’t really rely on the other films right, it may be a follow up and trying to establish itself in that continuity, but it actively pushes against them. Rian did his own thing.

This is the best video I've seen regarding the sequels. They really HAD their moments, but they weren't as good as they could've been. And seriously the fandom menace is such a real thing. This one youtuber made fun of rian johnson for the resistance bomber design which LITERALLY WAS IN THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY. That is a perfect example of the annoying youtubers complaining about every little thing that they can come up with rather than adress the real problems.

@thedudewhomadethisvideo

24 күн бұрын

Thanks dude, yeah they had there moments, all 3 films did but do feel like a huge missed opportunity. Rian Johnson is enemy number 1 in the Fandom Menace everything he does, they scrutinise I have seen. His response to it didn’t help things but they take it to what he has done outside of Star Wars too.

@KRobinson-ko1ne

22 күн бұрын

You’re think about the B-Wing? No those are more resilient Either way it’s not so much that the bombers were weak but the context: if the republic is or at least was in charge why are they left with those shitty bombers? But the real problem was that we are expected to view Poe as a nuisance but at the same time Paige as a hero and it’s just an inconsistent mess

@evoenjoyer3759

22 күн бұрын

the republic wasn't in charge because the re was no republic anymore @@KRobinson-ko1ne

@KRobinson-ko1ne

21 күн бұрын

There was no republic anymore for less than a day If Poe is still technically part of the Republic Fleet then they logically should have better ships Either way the republic being null en void after a single laser blast is a huge undermining of the original story: it means said republic wasn’t much to begin with and the rebellion was for naught

I enjoyed this review alot, as well as the last jedi... and yes im tired of all of the ignorance surrounding the "leftist woke agenda". like just say you are a racist elitist who only wants to see white males in movies and not any other minority group LOL. I seriously don't understand what is wrong with having people of different race or gender portray FICTIONAL characters! And if one girl is in a movie for the love of whatever god you pray to, it IS NOT a "girl boss" movie. Anyways, thanks for this analysis it was great.

@thedudewhomadethisvideo

15 күн бұрын

Thank you for watching dude, I appreciate it. I haven’t seen many channels calling them out, but I thought I would in this video since The Last Jedi very much birthed them I believe. But yeah I don’t get it either, it’s really not an issue focus on the film as a whole instead of what race and gender the characters are, it doesn’t affect anything.

The only problem is that Episodes 7, 8 and 9 are not Star Wars or canon! 😁😃😉

@thedudewhomadethisvideo

23 күн бұрын

In your headcanon sure

@KRobinson-ko1ne

22 күн бұрын

And in George Lucas’s

@lovesandservesjesuschrist6752

20 күн бұрын

@@thedudewhomadethisvideo You must divorce yourself from fantasy as if it means something important in your life. Secondly, this trilogy is not worth anyone's time. Life is far too precious for dysfunctional fiction to use up your time.

@thedudewhomadethisvideo

20 күн бұрын

Sure loves and serves Jesus Christ I will take your very unsolicited advice about divorcing one’s self from fantasy, because you clearly don’t devote your life to it. You should give that advice to those reactionary channels, they really need it. This is just a hobby it’s not my life

@trevorpacelli8056

15 күн бұрын

To me, the full Star Wars canon is Episodes 4-8 and the first 2 seasons of The Mandalorian. That's it.