THE LAST COAT REVIEW - ARE YOU BEING LIED TO?

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  • @TheLastCoat
    @TheLastCoat5 жыл бұрын

    Hey thanks a lot for the video. I wouldn’t say that we have lied though. We discuss our durability in relation to driving conditions. And as you stated, these were chemicals meant to remove sealants. But if we did state that TLC will withstand an iron remover followed by a product specific to stripping sealants, please let me know and we’ll make sure to change that. But as far as I know we’ve never stated that. And I don’t know why it’s being said a bottle is $50. A 16 oz bottle retails at $39.97 for one, and goes down when buying more to as low as $24.97/bottle. I do encourage people to watch and read other reviews of our products that are out there. The good far far outweigh the bad in real world use and application. We have no problem with torture tests like this, and chemical resistance is one aspect of a product. I’d encourage people to speak to an actual chemist if they want to see why chemical testing isn’t simply A + B = C. They are in isolation for whatever surfactants are in the particular stress product. It’s catchy and trendy and gets views, but doesn’t show the complete spectrum of durability. I understand I’m in a hornets hive of sorts and this may fall on deaf ears. I think more indicative of full spectrum performance and customer satisfaction is the fact we have over 1000 positive reviews and tons of happy, returning customers who enjoy the ease of use, versatility for pretty much all surfaces and application methods, visual results, ease of cleaning the surface after using... and we 100% stand by our products, with a 365 day guarantee. If our products were “junk” in the real world with real customers, we would go broke with our guarantee. 👍🏼

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    To be clear I didn’t state you lied - I was asking the question.

  • @TheLastCoat

    @TheLastCoat

    5 жыл бұрын

    Auto Detailing Podcast thanks for the reply. At 13:31 you say “I think we’ve all been lied to.” That came across as a statement, not a question. We created a product tons of people love and provide great customer service. Not sure the reason for statements like that when we haven’t made those sorts of claims.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    I’m not convinced it’s protecting anything. It’s literally the only product I’ve tested that has significantly failed after an iron remover.

  • @kikcodog

    @kikcodog

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TheLastCoat In fairness to you guys it's usually fans, not the makers, who make the wild claims I've noticed. Everyone wants to think they've spent their hard earned money wisely

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    It’s also my opinion, not necessarily a statement

  • @SNMIKE1
    @SNMIKE15 жыл бұрын

    P&S Beadmaker....Meguiars Synthetic Express Spray wax ...as a pro detailer for 45 years, those 2 offer THE best bang for your buck. Great review amigo!! A man with honor has a solid foundation. You have that in spades sir!! Godspeed All!!!

  • @DM-fp8uw

    @DM-fp8uw

    5 жыл бұрын

    SNMIKE1 nano shock has done really well on this test as well

  • @Carvetii

    @Carvetii

    5 жыл бұрын

    Agree synthetic x wax is superb as is another cheap one I use in the UK called car Plan no 1 supergloss. This is just another fashion item for the home car cleaner. Ripp off

  • @kylerumsey8942
    @kylerumsey89425 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for exposing products and helping me and others not waste money. Nick n Chad gonna be pissed though...lol...keepem coming.

  • @FlyingStuff
    @FlyingStuff5 жыл бұрын

    As a professional, I think I’m really sick of these shitty social media hype brands making these outrageous claims and then providing a product that sucks.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same.

  • @thecamarogarage
    @thecamarogarage5 жыл бұрын

    ** The Instructions on that Triple Clean spray SAYS NOT TO GET ON PAINT! ** I for one feel that the results of this test were unfair. The only thing I can see from this video is that the Triple Cleaning foam product used did its job; strip contamination, which includes waxes and polishes). The spray they used here says right on the bottle to NOT GET ON THE PAINT.. So I would think that if it is too strong for the PAINT that it sure as heck will remove standard protectants ON the paint as well. Standard protectants are not going to be a hard shell like a paints clearcoat nor an actual professional ceramic coating so of course, I would think it would remove it and pretty much anything else "softer" sitting on the surface of the clear. I personally don't recall ever seeing them indicating that it would withstand products that would, in other words, remove standard protectants from the surface. Now if we are talking about claims, I would have a different opinion on something such as Shine Armor in which they advertise it as being 20X Glossier and 20X Stronger and all other products which means they are basing their claims on even CERAMICS. If we were talking about Shine Armor being watered down by a product that should be only affecting a standard protectant, then yeah... But I don't believe TLC is ceramic so I don't see what wrong was done. Now before people accuse me of being part of TLC or whatever, I am not affiliated with them, sponsored by them, or have I, nor will I, ever post any paid affiliate linkage on my video's, nor do I make ANY money whatsoever. My comments on my experience with it. My background. I drive a 1992 Camaro Z28 in which I take to many local cars shows in the area. I have used quite a few different products and so I am VERY picky about what products I use on the car. I was using Zaino for 15 years before I came across TopCoat F11 in which I used it for the Summer of 2017. We had a dry heatwave with VERY little rain and due to the weekly shows, I would be re-applying F11 weekly before my shows. Until the shows stopped and the weather changed to Rain (usually Sep/Oct) I realized F11 was disappearing off the car very quickly. I stopped using F11 and came across TLC and started using it thinking it was the same thing.. Perhaps even being relabeled since Shine Armor in even their advertisements (and website) indicate they are a RELABELED PEAL NANO, I realized after it rained that it was not the same company.. And the results I got definitely were not the same as what I got with F11. I did tests and found TLC worked far better on my car than anything else I used and so I praise the product whenever I can. Just like F11 before I realized it was not working for me, I HIGHLY praised the product and told everyone I know about it. Believe me, I had people telling me to stop bragging about it and use the standard (Adams, Chemical Guys...).. But I insisted it was better until like I said, I realized it was not giving me the results I thought I would get (I even had a gallon of this stuff left :-( ) Anyways, back to my original topic LOL. When I really like a product, I will praise them and tell everyone about it. Everyone I know who has a car knows about TLC and are absolutely speechless when they see the results, not only on my car but THEIRS. I've used their products on my car since the Spring of 2018 and if I found it gave me negative results, you sure as heck bet I would be jumping on board with what it being said. However, I don't feel that the results here are very fair from what I have been able to see. I've used TLC thru rain, snow, and of course, sun and I have never had any issue.. I can add some more TLC with literally 1/4oz.. so that bottle should last quite a while. Speaking of which, I just checked their website and you guys are claiming the bottle costs $50.. The price is the same as when I bought it and it still $39.99us for the 16oz bottle. $49.99 is for the KIT (The Bottle and microfiber towels). Since my purchase last year, they went from 30 days warranty to 1 YEAR.. That alone for me speaks volumes. Anyways, I stand behind TLC and it does an amazing job on MY cars and I don't see any negative results from what I have used it. If you used IRONX, IPA, Claybar or even a degreaser, it not likely to remove an actual ceramic coating, but it would a standard protectant like the F11's. TLC's, Shine Armors, and wax's and polishes. If they were making claims to being an actual CERAMIC, then YES I would completely agree that those above should not have affected the product but we aren't talking about a ceramic here, are we? As a result, I fail to see what The Last Coat TLC did wrong or what they mislead us with? I will still strongly stand behind them since I have no reason to currently change that.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your input and definitely don’t think you work for/with them. I’m sure they have a ton of super happy customers. I’m a big fan of using products you like and use often and if TLC is it then awesome! I’m not trying to take anything away from them. Just doing my test.

  • @Jeeper1378

    @Jeeper1378

    5 жыл бұрын

    WestCoastCamaroZ28 have u tried BeadMaker ?

  • @thecamarogarage

    @thecamarogarage

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Jeeper1378 I haven't no. I didn't like the reviews I was seeing on how quickly it lost it's properties. Sure it's cheaper but if I have to reapply much more, then it's right for me.

  • @scottkirk747
    @scottkirk7475 жыл бұрын

    I have tried many different paint protectants(wax/sealants) and TLC along with Beadmaker have been the only two that I have tried that have given me the results I was looking for. I religiously detail my vehicles along with being on the road a lot with them between washes. Daily driver. I have found that this product needs about 10-20 minutes to cure in my current weather conditions/humidity. I will admit the first test panel I did on my truck I was not very impressed and immediately became disappointed as it performed just like all the others. I also DID NOT prep the surface. I had the same results that are seen here. However, the second time I tried it, I fully prepped the panel(strip wash x2 with alkaline based soaps, iron remover, clay bar, and two IPA wipe downs.) After doing this (which is the correct way as prep work for ANYTHING in life is everything) the product went on easily with no streaking and I allowed 20 minutes of cure time (bottle and card in the packaging say 7-10 minutes) and I am blown away by the results. For the first time I don’t feel the need to have to wash my vehicle every day. It’s glossy, slick, tight water beading AND sheeting. It repels everything that it has come in contact with. I did not do a torture test like you have in this video however if I spray an iron remover and/or a strong degreaser on any protected surface, I expect to reapply a protectant. Nothing is bullet proof and I think we rely entirely too much on products keeping our vehicles clean without putting in elbow grease along with it. You want a showroom finish on a daily driver? You are going to have to constantly maintain that vehicle in some way. This product has performed as advertised in my experience. I also paid 20 bucks a bottle. Are there products out there that top this? Probably. But it is based on prep work, application, environment, bias, and many other factors. I for one will continue to use TLC until I find a reason not to. I appreciate all you guys out here shooting these videos demonstrating products and performing torture tests on them but there are certainly many other factors at play. Nice video!

  • @johnjackson-pu3xo
    @johnjackson-pu3xo5 жыл бұрын

    Jimbo once again I look so forward to your videos I'm a detailer "mad freaks" in Macon ga just trying to get started not on the radar yet but with your help(videos) I'll get there

  • @jamesstewart1794

    @jamesstewart1794

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mac town reppin

  • @shhamad1
    @shhamad15 жыл бұрын

    This is very informative , thanks man

  • @congo4900
    @congo49005 жыл бұрын

    As always, another great video by Jimbo! I guess im sticking with p&s beadmaker, i thought eagle one was just water in a bottle as all the other test they survived eagle one but guess i was wrong ... Money saved

  • @DSC1320
    @DSC13205 жыл бұрын

    I almost bought the last coat. Literally.. Glad you saved me from disappointment.

  • @onrdetailingnews802
    @onrdetailingnews8025 жыл бұрын

    Onr detailing news great demo buddy

  • @cjburn2758
    @cjburn27585 жыл бұрын

    I am a fan of Tac Systems Moonlight. Just a hobbyist, but it would be fun to see.

  • @milanjurich1526
    @milanjurich15265 жыл бұрын

    Last Coat team is quite humorous. $50 bucks a bottle, yet can not compare to Megs UFF, etc. that’s significantly less. Same testing protocol, yet subpar results. Thanks for calling this out.

  • @thecamarogarage

    @thecamarogarage

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's not $50 a bottle. It's $39.97 ($33.97 with 15FORYOU) discount code.

  • @milanjurich1526

    @milanjurich1526

    5 жыл бұрын

    WestCoastCamaroZ28 lol

  • @ReactionBrewingCompany

    @ReactionBrewingCompany

    5 жыл бұрын

    It was $20/bottle including shipping when I bought some. Works as good as I expected for a spray. I don’t spray chemicals on my car though.

  • @thecamarogarage

    @thecamarogarage

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ReactionBrewingCompany Damn, wish I got it that cheap LOL

  • @ReactionBrewingCompany

    @ReactionBrewingCompany

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@thecamarogarage I did the buy 3 get 1 free deal plus found a 25% off coupon. I don't plan to use it as a replacement for actual paint protection but I just bought a new vehicle and won't be able to ceramic coat it for a couple months. I needed something that would work on matte paint without adding gloss or streaking and this fit the bill. If the Last coat lasts a month per application I'll be happy.

  • @chuckwicksimmons5813
    @chuckwicksimmons58135 жыл бұрын

    Jumbo jumbo why iam I always late to the party i haven't finished your video yet but I've already ordered the product. I hope I won't be disappointed after watching you video.

  • @jimkerr7
    @jimkerr75 жыл бұрын

    I figured it was a junk product when I saw their marketing and heard how much it cost. I didn’t think it would fail that fast though. Heck, I can buy a gallon of Beadmaker for less than the price of 1 bottle of Last Coat. Holy Moly!

  • @Jeeper1378

    @Jeeper1378

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you look around on the web or grab a code from a sponsored detailer TLC usually offers a buy one get one free deal.

  • @jimkerr7

    @jimkerr7

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jeeper1378 even with a bogo its still double the price of Bead Maker.

  • @NickM1013
    @NickM10135 жыл бұрын

    Hey Jimbo all nonsense aside. Keep doing what you’re doing and never let self proclaimed youtube sensations or others direct you a different way because it doesnt support their narrative. You’re doing it the right way so kudos!

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man.

  • @austinbentley2760
    @austinbentley27605 жыл бұрын

    For the new degreaser maybe more power clean at 1:3 since that’s what optimum recommends for paint. Orrrrr. Meguiars D101 due to the price and multiple uses.

  • @jimflanagan6029
    @jimflanagan60295 жыл бұрын

    Great clip once again . And holly crap I was going to order this , now I’m going to wait maybe F11 top coat or that new Traduxa

  • @sixsixST2

    @sixsixST2

    5 жыл бұрын

    How about you stay away from the facebook products and get something that's already proven? Plenty of good choices out there.

  • @arshamboduryan6136
    @arshamboduryan61365 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Years ago, before getting into detailing my own cars I would of probably purchased this product (because of the ads) only to never use it.

  • @daves.3278
    @daves.32785 жыл бұрын

    Last coat too expensive Meguairs fast finish all day for me 🙌🙌

  • @gonad84

    @gonad84

    5 жыл бұрын

    Turtle wax ice spray wax.

  • @dzlordthor

    @dzlordthor

    5 жыл бұрын

    Both UFF and ice spray wax are great, so use both! I use fast finish every few months then ice spray wax for my routine washes in between. Keeps the protection on longer. Or at least that's what I tell myself 😋 Edit: I used to use Lucas slick mist but Jimbo converted me to the church of ice wax 👍👍

  • @noturbo
    @noturbo5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the vid it helped me make my decision on this without the spending love youtube :)

  • @nickminto3701
    @nickminto37015 жыл бұрын

    I have said for years that sheeting is better.

  • @PeteyMcSavage
    @PeteyMcSavage5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome Jimbo go test I’m very skeptical of this company like a f11

  • @onrdetailingnews802
    @onrdetailingnews8025 жыл бұрын

    Great video buddy tfs

  • @-zerocool-
    @-zerocool-5 жыл бұрын

    Try a different iron remover? That one might have certain chems in it most others don't have? Id like to see Fast Finnish in a showdown again that would be great as thats what I use because its just so quick to apply!

  • @rickw.9298
    @rickw.92985 жыл бұрын

    Good video choice Jimbo. The ‘nobody does this to their car’ statement is an easy disclaimer. Average people like a clean and presentable car. Life being as it is, they use auto car washes even after it’s been waxed by a detailer. They may never mention it to you but it happens. And what do you think the auto washes use to strip clean the car? Nasty strong chemicals and friction. So... I believe your testing has merit in the real world. Thanks for sticking it out...you’re videos are getting better as time progresses.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Rick W. Your 💯 right. Thank you for commenting.

  • @joeglenn7323
    @joeglenn73235 жыл бұрын

    Try hanging some heavy blackout curtains a few inches away from one or two walls in your studio to eliminate the echo. They are cheap and you can pick them up at Walmart, Home Depot, Lowes, etc.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Great idea

  • @waay82
    @waay825 жыл бұрын

    Have you done Armour Shield IX? I am going to put that on in a few weeks once the weather gets better.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not yet

  • @davot.9717
    @davot.97175 жыл бұрын

    Hey Brother first time viewing your channel quite impressed :-) I have a Harley Davidson Roadster with the denim black paint I was wondering what you recommend for cleaning and most importantly protection I ride through the desert and the mountains quite often

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    This product will work if you use it often. There are a ton of product that will work as well, turtle wax, meguiars, TLC - you gotta find what you like and use it often.

  • @davot.9717

    @davot.9717

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@autodetailingpodcast thank you so much for replying it's much appreciated have a blessed day bro

  • @watchusliveandstuff4393
    @watchusliveandstuff43935 жыл бұрын

    Who else got the ad for the last coat right after he said we've been lied to? Haha!!!

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Marketing is an amazing thing!

  • @AztecWarrior595
    @AztecWarrior5955 жыл бұрын

    im glad i changed my mind i figured it was too good to be true after watching reviews i decided to buy the 303 spray sealant is the best

  • @Sick_Demon646
    @Sick_Demon6465 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the review man! Unfortunately, I did buy this product, but only because I got 2 for $40. It is a decent product but not for the price.. I compared it to a product called Dual Polymer Waterless car wash, and the dual polymer was extremely smooth, cost only $35 compared to $50 and smells like bubble gum. I appreciate your honest reviews

  • @trapcracker
    @trapcracker5 жыл бұрын

    The Barstool Sports comment cracked me up 😂😂😂

  • @polybrah8203
    @polybrah82035 жыл бұрын

    People might hate on test methods (which there really is no solution to so idk why) but the best thing about this channel is that products are actually reviewed and compared. Unlike some detailing channels where every video is a sponsored infomercial with no actual information regarding its performance.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    I like to bring value

  • @whatmattersmost6725
    @whatmattersmost67255 жыл бұрын

    Hey Jimbo, VERY GLAD I DID NOT BELEVE THE HYPE!! Yeah saw other tubers and looked interesting but for I will stick with my Beadmaker! I agree maybe this is not a fair test as you are correct stuff in the air does get on the sealant. I do like what you are doing with the cleaners to each sealant as I have need to use Super Clean to remove bird poop and then recoated with Beadmaker. Like your new digs also. Keep up the great work...

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @godowarus
    @godowarus5 жыл бұрын

    I’ve already reached out to them about this but TLC isn’t compatible with every ceramic coating. I don’t think they ever claimed that it did but I’m sure it was designed to be a topper for coatings with it being SiO2 formulated. I used it on my windshields that has GTechniq G1 and they fought each other. It hazed up really bad and it took a dozen glass cleaning passes to clear it up. Maybe a version 2 might come out and be significantly better

  • @rob-lw7be
    @rob-lw7be5 жыл бұрын

    Lots of these products popping up. Another one i see adds for before detailing videos is torque mirror shine.

  • @noturbo
    @noturbo5 жыл бұрын

    I have a black car and while wax is great its to much hard work leaving white where i dont want it so been working out what is the easiest and best in spray sealant/wax so been experimenting with nanoshock and gyoen wet coat and in using them in conjunction within a cure period of each other , experimenting is fun ! anyway these 2 products seem the best for me and the price is about the best per gallon.

  • @DM-fp8uw

    @DM-fp8uw

    5 жыл бұрын

    All the test I’ve seen of nano shock have been very positive.

  • @tuner066
    @tuner0665 жыл бұрын

    You know you always make me think. You talk about water beating and sheeting. How sheeting is probably better. I alway thought beating was the best thing. I go out and detail my car then as usual it rains right after. I go out and see how the water beads on the car and I’m impressed. Especially after I use a new product. But now I’m with you on sheeting. After seeing all your videos. That’s what I want. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

  • @chadj8349
    @chadj83495 жыл бұрын

    Are you ceramicpro certified now or were you before? Saw you on Instagram with them detailing. Personally I like TAC systems moonlight as a topper on some parts of my car, wheels trim etc... on the paint I use polish angel V2 and spritz.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not CP anything. I just have friends that work for them and we were hanging out

  • @theplayernkc
    @theplayernkc5 жыл бұрын

    Can you please do a test on DPC Armor?

  • @MrNacho1955
    @MrNacho19555 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jimbo you confirmed what we think on all that new hyped crap products, you saved us $50. What’s your favorite silica spray ?

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    TW spray wax, TW seal and shine, technicians choice ceramic detail spray and nano skin nano shock

  • @MrNacho1955

    @MrNacho1955

    5 жыл бұрын

    Auto Detailing Podcast how about C2V3 ( Gtechniq) , I have nanoskin but I couldn’t find technicians choice tho 😥

  • @barrycook8116
    @barrycook81165 жыл бұрын

    If they focused more on making their product better and less on ads all over Facebook they could at least be competitive with other spray sealants.

  • @VaporRipper
    @VaporRipper5 жыл бұрын

    Do you ever get comments or emails from any of these companies after your comparison/ torture test vids? Reading those would made a great video.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    From time to time I do. When it happens I read them on here too

  • @TheAverageJoeX
    @TheAverageJoeX5 жыл бұрын

    I wanted to try The Last Coat as I like the idea of also using The Last Soap to apply some kind of protection under my roof rack which makes it nearly impossible to efficiently apply protection products to the paint underneath... Yesterday, I washed, iron x, claybarred, and IPA wiped. I then used The Last Soap to wash the vehicle, then dried, then applied TLC. The Last Soap didn't seem to make any difference in beading/sheeting before and after using it to wash. Afterwards, The Last Coat spray was applied easily enough every where (except under the roof rack) using about 1/5 of the spray bottle. I drove the car today in perfect weather and parked it outside while at work, and it seems like it actually attracts more dust/pollen. My wife's car came home with noticeably less dust/pollen (I use Meguiar's UFF and TW Ice Spray Wax on hers). We take the same route and her work is only a few miles closer than mine with outdoor parking as well, but hers was in the elements even longer (I work 8hr shifts while she works 12 hrs). I ran through a few sprinkler puddles on the way home, and it did as you'd expect, making the dust/pollen stick to the sides of the car and making it more noticeable. We should get some rain also this week, so we'll see on that. Maybe I'll even be lucky enough to have a bird poop on my car while it sits and bakes in the parking lot. With the fresh application of TLC in my garage, I agree with Pan that gloss and slickness is awesome, but we'll see how it holds up to a weeks worth of real world elements when/if I can wash it this weekend. I really want this stuff to work, as in theory, their soap and spray application is perfect for my needs. If it doesn't hold up to real world testing, I hope their 365 day money back guarantee is legit. Do you recommend any wash/rinse off products that would make my life easier with this PITA roof rack? Update 1: Well, we didn't get any rain though the forcast said we would. I'm in Houston so the rainy days may be gone. After a week of parking in the sun and driving through spinkler water, I'm surprised. I washed today and during pre-rinse, the water beaded/sheeted right off. I'll continue my evaluation hoping for some rain. Anyhow, I proceeded to wash with The Last Soap, then added another coat of TLC. It doesn't seem to go on as smooth as the first time. Maybe it's just the microfibers I got from them that wear too quickly. I wash them just like all my others in a separate load with tide free and clear, and all the microfiber wash recommendations. We'll see how it holds up. I'll update if results or durability change If you don't get a lot of rain, it may be a good product. Bugs and road grime built up just the same and didn't seem to come off any easier. I do have to say it makes the black plastic trim look good (on a new car).

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tbh I hate root racks for that reason.

  • @MyGuyKirby
    @MyGuyKirby5 жыл бұрын

    Interesting that the LC reacted so poorly to wheel cleaner with iron remover. This would be a great podcast to discuss with a chemist what or why this takes place.

  • @RL-RL
    @RL-RL5 жыл бұрын

    I use it. I like it and it does last a good while for me. BUT, it is expensive, and beats hand waxing at home for the average person. I am about to start using a DA polisher with quality products soon, as price vs performance just isn't as good as a quality wax job.

  • @kelw1296
    @kelw12965 жыл бұрын

    Have you done a test on Fusso 99 wax?

  • @sircookealot
    @sircookealot5 жыл бұрын

    I was about to order this not for longevity or pretending to be a ceramic coat, but for glossy spray on slickness, combined with their si soap? *(Puts flamesuit on)* have you, by any chance, looked at Permanon Aircraft Supershine? I've had a bottle for years and just run out, I'm desperately looking for something as good or better; but can't find any modern comparisons on that... "pro detailers" I know haven't heard of it, and can't match my car for slickness but it's a decade old and there must be better stuff... any evidence based recommendations from yourself or followers? Thanks in advance...

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    I haven’t seen that product. There are a lot of products that will make a surface “slick and shiny” - heck there are a lot that do that and actually have protection in there too.

  • @alandeacon6568
    @alandeacon65685 жыл бұрын

    And until I watched this I was buying You saved me money cheers

  • @kikcodog
    @kikcodog5 жыл бұрын

    oh no! It's baaaaaack! The door that will not die...

  • @DanielChaves1984
    @DanielChaves19845 жыл бұрын

    I bought it when it was buy one get one free so it made the price more worthwhile. For me I bought it for the silky smooth feel it leaves, my car is not a daily driver and so I wasn't worried about the longevity of the coat but for me it's doing really well. But I didn't hit it right away with anything so maybe it's more resilient the longer it has time to be on the car? I think it's instant for being able to get up and leave for application purposes but bet there is a cure time for strength? Either way I haven't checked yet but I hope your cheap v expensive is this verses Beadmaker. That's the head to head I would like to see.

  • @VaporRipper
    @VaporRipper5 жыл бұрын

    C'mon Jimbo. 22k subscribers, a "studio" and you can't get a decent black body panel that is more uniform and not banged and scratched up.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    LOL - true. I’ll keep working on it

  • @dustin9258
    @dustin92585 жыл бұрын

    You lost me at $50 for a 16oz bottle. I’ll wait the 8 hrs for bead maker to cure for 1/5 the price.

  • @thecamarogarage

    @thecamarogarage

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's not $50 for the 16oz bottle. Their website says its $39.97 for the 16oz bottle ($49.97 is for the KIT with 400gsm microfiber towels which I should mention are the BEST i've ever used in a kit like this). Plus they readily show a discount code on their website for 15% off (15FORYOU) so that now is $33.97. If you guys are only getting 1 or 2 or even 3 layers of it on your car you are using WAY TOO MUCH

  • @dustin9258

    @dustin9258

    5 жыл бұрын

    WestCoastCamaroZ28 even at $34 a bottle, I can buy an entire gallon of bead maker for that.

  • @Nintendude2013

    @Nintendude2013

    5 жыл бұрын

    I bought some too 😅

  • @VaporRipper
    @VaporRipper5 жыл бұрын

    Hey Jimbo. Can you look into Lithium Elixer car care products. Came across them on some other channels.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    VaporRipper ya they sent me some stuff too. I have to play with it a bit

  • @jpaez82
    @jpaez825 жыл бұрын

    I picked up 2 bottles for the price of 1. Oh well i will use till it runs out and switch to bead maker

  • @tuner066
    @tuner0665 жыл бұрын

    Cheap vs expensive. Last coat vs bead maker.

  • @jimmyqballs
    @jimmyqballs5 жыл бұрын

    Is that the Autofiber Dreadnaught drying towel?

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @myronromero7071
    @myronromero70715 жыл бұрын

    Too expensive for no results no shine booster nothing. Now try F11 and Dual polymer. But i totally agree sheeting much better, less water to get off paint and less chance for water spots

  • @TheZigzone
    @TheZigzone5 жыл бұрын

    I tried The Last Coat and did a maintenance wash a week later with Meguiars Gold Class car shampoo and after the rinse, the insane water beading was gone. Also, I wasn’t overly impressed with slickness or gloss compared to other products on the market.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bummer to hear

  • @gregsgarage1260
    @gregsgarage12605 жыл бұрын

    Damn the last coat such a fail glad I did not listen to the other videos I watched that were sponsored by them crazy!!! Glad you keep it real!

  • @dennisthemenance5433
    @dennisthemenance54335 жыл бұрын

    80% of my cars surface is protected- with ? PlexiGlass Sheeting Coating..its 1/8th of a inch Thick in sheetsover my Hood, Fenders, Roof, Doors, Trunk and qtr panels and even strips of PG cut to form a sanp cover over the Spokes of my Chrome Wheels, did this 5 yrs ago and? still good as New and will Look like that when I remove those Sheets , throw them away and the Orginal Paint, Cleat coast remains behind.I only use spary Wax on my Glass ( Turtle ICE) the cost 5 yrs ago to do the PG Sheeting was? $115! I only pay $25 mo for a CW membership, can Wash the car 6 days a week, but I only do it 2-3x wk Winter thru Summer.. Vehicle is? Ford F-150 For my Small Self Employed Business and wfies 2008- Lincoln MKZ- We fly out for our Winter Vaction Mos of Jan-March.. -Fla Of course and to St. Thomas and some other islandsand do Skin Diving-Treasure Hunting and find more than enough to pay for are trips.,from the rich that loose things and the ocean storms that bring Old Things into the Beaches to be found.. Peach- Good Testing- Keep it up-YOu only need 28k more subsccribers to make $10-$15k a Yr from sponsors

  • @gufiaito69able
    @gufiaito69able5 жыл бұрын

    Water sheeting fan here!!!

  • @kbstoy1913

    @kbstoy1913

    5 жыл бұрын

    YES!!!!

  • @808G8GT
    @808G8GT5 жыл бұрын

    I bought my last coat at buy one get one. So it didnt seem expensive. I haven't had a problem with their product. But I detail my car weekly so maybe that makes a different. Also....the average person doesnt get chemicals on their car that often especially with intention to "test" the product". After I coat the car with the last coat I let it cure at least a day, (like i do with all products).

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Your right. This is purely for fun to see how far product can go.

  • @scottrosen8134
    @scottrosen81345 жыл бұрын

    I have this product and I purchased it because of the video from Pan TheOrganizer. My ​skepticism and dislike is the marketing is over the top and very gimmicky. I actually expressed that to the owners (if that's who I was really chatting with on fb) prior to purchasing. I wouldn't be surprised if they have an infomercial soon on TV. The product is good, but it is overpriced based on the other topper products out there. I also own BeadMaker which is easier to apply and gloss seems to be about the same. I also bought the TLS (car wash soap) which came as a package deal and I do like the product in a foam cannon.

  • @JWL-UK
    @JWL-UK5 жыл бұрын

    Would love to see you trying to kill Soft99 Fusso Coat with your torture test! 👍

  • @sinformant
    @sinformant5 жыл бұрын

    Lol just had an advertisement for last coat right before this video

  • @leemoknows
    @leemoknows5 жыл бұрын

    The first time I saw a video advertisement for Last Coat, I thought the guy sounded just like the guy in the F11 commercials lol.

  • @986C
    @986C5 жыл бұрын

    You’re one of my favorite product reviewers simply because you’re not one of the typical product ‘reviewers’ paid by the company to promote their product (Pan the Organizer, Esoteric Car Care, etc). You have to balls to say overpriced crap like AMMO is - crap. Like I said before, I worked on a coatings formulation team for years and almost all products like waxes, sealants, ceramics, you name it, utilize very very similarly chemistries and are so so very overpriced. If most people had any idea that the base chemicals literally cost the manufacturer pennies per pound they wouldn’t pay these insane prices. Most of what’s in a bottle that you’re paying big bucks for literally has less than $1 dollar of materials in it. One company figures out a decent product and the others instantly reverse engineer it and market it with flashy terms like ‘9H’ ‘wet look’ ‘permanently’ and ‘bonds’ so our monkey brains like it and buy it.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man!

  • @audiawd7511
    @audiawd75115 жыл бұрын

    Please try Sam’s Ceramic Boost. Cheap and good.

  • @edruiz6364
    @edruiz63645 жыл бұрын

    I've yet to see any product outlast TW Ice Spray & Wax, and at any price. And they don't make exaggerated claims like this.

  • @howiefeltersnatch69

    @howiefeltersnatch69

    5 жыл бұрын

    Agreed 100% Just bought another bottle to detail my new Corvette GS. For the price it can't be beat.

  • @kelw1296
    @kelw12965 жыл бұрын

    Have you done a review on Fusso 99 wax ?

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not yet

  • @PeteyMcSavage

    @PeteyMcSavage

    5 жыл бұрын

    Check out soft 99 water block wax better beading than fusso

  • @constantdarkfog49
    @constantdarkfog495 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, This product's far to pricey for what you get. I'll gladly stick with Bead Maker who's results & performance are great, it does not get any better in my book. Thanks Jimbo

  • @RobertSmith-di5ll
    @RobertSmith-di5ll5 жыл бұрын

    Can't see any point in spending $50 - loads of other stuff does the job at least as good if not better for half the price - off my shopping list

  • @johnwilliam8366
    @johnwilliam83665 жыл бұрын

    After the purchase of the last coat, they should of added a pair of plastic gloves. Its acidic and burns the skin. its not my last coat.. Back to using "Bead Maker."

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    John William really?? That’s crazy

  • @waynewoodrick5055
    @waynewoodrick50555 жыл бұрын

    Hey Jimbo, As a guy that gets sucked into the facebook and youTube adds..THANK YOU!

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Your welcome!

  • @0818SEMPERFI
    @0818SEMPERFI5 жыл бұрын

    Too funny two ads on this video and both were Last Coat ads lol.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @jamesstewart1794

    @jamesstewart1794

    5 жыл бұрын

    No such thing as bad publicity.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    James Stewart - maybe I should have gotten paid for this video... dang it

  • @donaldgreen9292
    @donaldgreen92925 жыл бұрын

    I have been fooled before at a car show on one of those does it all bottles, back before I knew any better when it came to detailing products. I tend to use brands that have years of reputation to live up to anymore. If I had to pick one, it would be bead maker, since I can use it on glass, too. then Meguiars Ultimate wax. it would be cool to see glass protection put thru the torture test like rain x and every other one there is. Maybe another element for you torture test use cheap windshield washer fluid prior to iron remover. I didn't mind the kids in the background, the only one whining about it. more or less just want to cry about something.

  • @XxVendetaxX1
    @XxVendetaxX15 жыл бұрын

    I see a lot of last coat comments here stating he's using stripping chemicals. Here's the thing, what if I'm using a decon spray on my wheels and it gets on my paint? What if I'm using an APC or tire and wheel cleaners and the over spray gets on the paint? You guys have no excuse for this overpriced below average product. None! It should be highly resistant to chemicals and last a long while in harsh conditions. Good day copy cat f11 top coat. Let me clarify. If they dropped the price to 20$ for 16oz I and everybody else wouldn't be on on their case as hard, but they overpriced it to 50$. That's why this product looks like a rip-off, just lower the price.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well said.

  • @DM-fp8uw

    @DM-fp8uw

    5 жыл бұрын

    A gallon of nano shock is $30 and survived many more chemicals.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    D M shhhhhh....don’t tell people, the price will go up. 😉

  • @khyoon14

    @khyoon14

    5 жыл бұрын

    Auto Detailing Podcast ROFL

  • @khyoon14

    @khyoon14

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly a F11 copy cat lol

  • @donaldjoseph4013
    @donaldjoseph40135 жыл бұрын

    Tried it..it sucks

  • @abdullah_fardm.9725
    @abdullah_fardm.97255 жыл бұрын

    $50...is expensive.

  • @RealtimeReviews613
    @RealtimeReviews6135 жыл бұрын

    PLEASE DO RUSTOLEUM STAGE 4

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Just ordered. I’ll have a video out in a week or so.

  • @keithnoblet4332
    @keithnoblet43325 жыл бұрын

    Test F11 and see if it is the same or similar to the last coat.

  • @rodgraff1782

    @rodgraff1782

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have tested the Last Coat and Topcoats least expensive spray detailer called Spritz. So far, they are identical in performance. My test is still ongoing, but it has been two weeks with rain, and a 300 mile road trip. Now the truck is covered with road grime. Both products show water beads with the exact same size, and the windshield performs exactly the same. I coated 1/2 the truck with TLC and 1/2 with Topcoat Spritz. So far, the two are pretty equal, right down to the size of the water beads. Both products apply identically, are very thin and watery, and streak free with minimal effort.

  • @aquatics117
    @aquatics1175 жыл бұрын

    Hold up so 10x more expensive then turtle Wax and dies to a simple iron remover. It's a good thing they got good marketing.

  • @XxVendetaxX1

    @XxVendetaxX1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Including Pan the organizer. Guys I'm joking. He's straight forward with his viewer's and he tells us when he's sponsored. You don't have to agree with him all the time to still like him.

  • @sixsixST2

    @sixsixST2

    5 жыл бұрын

    You mean Pan the Advertiser

  • @XxVendetaxX1

    @XxVendetaxX1

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@sixsixST2 LoL!🤣🤣🤣 That can be a nudge nudge wink wink meme he can embrace.

  • @PanTheOrganizer

    @PanTheOrganizer

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@sixsixST2 That's not a nice thing to say. As a channel becomes more and more successful, it's only natural to see such opportunities come by. And I only review products from brands I believe in and personally like using. You can't even start to imagine how many sponsored videos I have turned down because I don't believe in the brand or the product simply doesn't live up to my expectations. And as you see other smaller channels get bigger, they eventually too will start having these opportunities. Will you start hating them at that point too? That is unfair in my opinion. For me, as long as the person stays true to their values, why is it a bad thing if they can also generate revenue to allow them to continue growing their own brand and channel? There's nothing wrong with that, as long as you make it clear. And I do. When I do a sponsored video, I say it. I could do like many other KZreadrs and not say it. Not only would that be unethical, but it would go against KZread's rules and regulations. And believe me, I know everytime I see a video that should disclose they're sponsored, yet they're not. So it's unfair that I get knocked on because I actually disclose this. Think of this: when is the last time you actually heard a KZreadr say their video is sponsored in any way shape or form? Hmmmm. Pretty rare hunh. And do you honestly think they all go out there and buy all these products, tools and equipment with their own money all the time? Hmmmm. Probably not. I know that at the end of the day, I'm blessed with an audience approaching 300,000 subscribers who understand and appreciate all the hard work I put into making my videos and who can appreciate the passion and knowledge I share with them. Have a goo day.

  • @johncover3103

    @johncover3103

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pan you dont so enthusiastic anymore. Ive tried the last coat. I like the result but I am a bit annoyed bye Nick and Chad's constant bombardment of marketing. They're all over my Facebook and constantly emailing me

  • @Jeeper1378
    @Jeeper13785 жыл бұрын

    Im Wondering if a cure would make a difference?

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    The label clearly states that it “protects...instantly”

  • @Jeeper1378

    @Jeeper1378

    5 жыл бұрын

    Auto Detailing Podcast im sure it does so will BeadMaker even though it states a cure time. Seems odd the iron remover killed it on the first try.

  • @ivanlopez7294
    @ivanlopez72945 жыл бұрын

    Wow, stirred up the hornet's nest on this one....however, I was interested in TLCs comment about durability related to road salt...that's a real world condition I'm always looking for good protection against.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    I’m not sure tlc in its current formulation would make it through a gnarly rain storm let alone salt on the road.

  • @ivanlopez7294

    @ivanlopez7294

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I hear you there. While some may critique the value of the torture test I do find it at least useful in gauging relative protective capability among products.

  • @demonicus666
    @demonicus6665 жыл бұрын

    Lmfao last coat ad before your video

  • @richardseem7948
    @richardseem79485 жыл бұрын

    another great product review video again jimbo. what a waste of 50 bucks. b well

  • @jobber1984
    @jobber19845 жыл бұрын

    Thabks Jimbo, didn't realize it was that expensive. I'll stick with carpro reload and Megiuars UFF!

  • @jasontubbs9409
    @jasontubbs94095 жыл бұрын

    Give me Meguiars UFF and the Turtle Wax Ice all day long.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @Likethetacosauce
    @Likethetacosauce5 жыл бұрын

    Pan the organizer had a bogo for this product, which I used. It was only $40 at the time, so $20 ea with that code. I will say if this was only $20-$30 it would be my go-to all the time!. Super easy to install and no wait time.

  • @khyoon14
    @khyoon145 жыл бұрын

    I’ll stick to bead maker.

  • @kevkill808
    @kevkill8085 жыл бұрын

    Last coat. Waste of money. Another company trying to make money.. thx. Love your vids

  • @RealtimeReviews613
    @RealtimeReviews6135 жыл бұрын

    AS I SAID BEFORE WE NEED DIRT, DUST, MUD REPELLENT NOT HYDROPHOBIC STUFF THAT DIRT STICKS TOO

  • @davewhitaker9015
    @davewhitaker90155 жыл бұрын

    Dang. The comments section on this got a little crazy!

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    It’s “lit” - at least I think that’s what the cool kids are saying now

  • @jimmyemond8213

    @jimmyemond8213

    5 жыл бұрын

    LoL

  • @patricktuggles4815
    @patricktuggles48155 жыл бұрын

    You lost me at $50

  • @XxVendetaxX1
    @XxVendetaxX15 жыл бұрын

    I got this stuff for 40$ and two bottles in a coupon. It'll last me a year, but I knew it wouldn't be a durable product, so that's why I jumped on the buy on get one free deal. If the bottle was only 20$ like the retail sio2 sprays out there, then maybe. This stuff is just like hydrosillix recharge, overpriced for average or below product.

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hydrosilex is much better then this junk

  • @XxVendetaxX1

    @XxVendetaxX1

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@autodetailingpodcast hydrosillix recharge isn't that durable I've been hearing. Everyone says it dies in a month or two compared to the 6-9 months claim. Is this true?

  • @TheLastCoat

    @TheLastCoat

    5 жыл бұрын

    XxVendetaxX1 I would be weary of Hydrosilex claims considering that they state they are an “advanced ceramic coating”. It is an SiO2 based product. A higher end ceramic coating would be something like Servfaces or CeramicPro, etc.

  • @gufiaito69able

    @gufiaito69able

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TheLastCoat you guys got killed here!!!! Any comments? I bought it has well and I am not satisfied right now.

  • @TheLastCoat

    @TheLastCoat

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tito Rodriguez yes we commented and have also replied to your email, thank you.

  • @bobrobert8566
    @bobrobert85665 жыл бұрын

    They have a 1 year money back guarantee so send it back and let us know if you got your refund

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bob Robert I purchased on amazon.

  • @TheLastCoat

    @TheLastCoat

    5 жыл бұрын

    Auto Detailing Podcast if you do want to return it, send an e-mail to contact@thelastcoat.com with the Amazon payment info and I’ll see if we can override Amazon there, and if not give us your Paypal account and we’ll Paypal you the money directly. We have a 365 day guarantee for a reason, and we honor it. 👍🏼

  • @gufiaito69able
    @gufiaito69able5 жыл бұрын

    That is what pan the organizer can do for you he put this product thru the roof!!! And look at that!

  • @autodetailingpodcast

    @autodetailingpodcast

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pan has a great big loyal following. He’s playing it smart and maximizing it. I don’t blame him one bit.

  • @gufiaito69able

    @gufiaito69able

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@autodetailingpodcast ohhhhhh i do blame him he knows wich products work and don't. But he rather get paid than to actually Say something negative and scare other sales away. He is car sales man in the detailing industry

  • @dustin9258

    @dustin9258

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tito Rodriguez agreed. He oversells a lot of stuff. Maybe he genuinely gets excited about new products, but I tend to think he’s getting some kind of kick back for his “honest” reviews.

  • @gufiaito69able

    @gufiaito69able

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@dustin9258 he Charges anywhere from 20k to 35k forma reviews. That is a fact, I DNT mind him getting paid what I do mind is that he hypes everything to and takes us all for a ride while he knows the products are not very good.

  • @squid98989898

    @squid98989898

    5 жыл бұрын

    I bought this stuff based on Pan's review after he said how great it was. I am extremely mad and feel scamed by Pan and TLC right now. Pan seemed like a honest guy to me.

  • @XxVendetaxX1
    @XxVendetaxX15 жыл бұрын

    This video shows that Pan The Organizer is kinda selling out. Is that a bad thing though? I don't think it is, he seems to only speak about products he genuinely enjoys. Please no name calling or accusations and I should have clarified what I meant. Please be respectful to each other and if you want to have fun like making a meme of pan saying he's pan the advertiser, make it in good nature. This turned too negative and it got out of hand.

  • @oliveraton86

    @oliveraton86

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, he is. What about Wilson’s auto detailing? I think that guy is a copy cat of everybody else.

  • @XxVendetaxX1

    @XxVendetaxX1

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@oliveraton86 I don't think he is, he's been pretty honest with us and has stated in an official manner that he is sponsored by maxshine/shinemaster. That's the only company he's sponsored by and I can't blame him because they make good products at great prices.

  • @oliveraton86

    @oliveraton86

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don’t have any complaints about that brand, Pan made a video about last coat and then few days later he did too, some of the videos of Scott from Dallas, he remade them too. Same with a lot of stuff he does and says. That’s why I said he’s a copycat and he is. I can tell he watched a lot of videos of these detailers including Darren from auto fetish. He can be honest but not original. That’s my point.

  • @XxVendetaxX1

    @XxVendetaxX1

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@oliveraton86 Gotcha, and in that sense I agree he is copying a good amount from other detailing channels. Scott and Brian are my two favorite equal detailers on KZread and Jimbo is second place.

  • @oliveraton86

    @oliveraton86

    5 жыл бұрын

    Brian from Apex is a genius, same Scott. Jimbo is awesome too. And I agree with you. :)

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