Do you prefer your 4x4s with two doors or four?

@dragospahontu

2 жыл бұрын

Two doors

@Gearbhall

2 жыл бұрын

I prefer them with an UNLIMITED BUMPER-TO-BUMPER WARRANTY

@dha588

2 жыл бұрын

Why buy a 4 door when no one sits in the back 95% of the time unless you're a uber driver

@RAZGR1Z

2 жыл бұрын

@@dha588 When you have kids or friends or family.

@G_P_G

2 жыл бұрын

2 doors! I wish more people realized they really don't carry people around as much as they think they do. And if you have a family then have the other vehicle be the 4 door family hauler and treat yourself to something cooler looking. This would lead to more 2door SUVs getting designed and built. I think it's also the American mindset that more is always better. And in most cases the 2 doors are not that much cheaper then 4 doors so people just go with 4, and probably better resale value too. I always like the proportions much better on a 2door off road box versus the 4 door equivalent.

I was all hyped up for the new Bronco after seeing some very concerning initial reports on the (4 door) Defender regarding reliability issues. No surprise there... I thought. After watching 1,378 Bronco videos, placing a pre-order 6 months and 10 days ago as of this writing, taking a 2 day test drive in the Badlands, and playing with the configurator 27,819 times - I figured I'd check the current competition one last time as I continually wait for my Bronco. Well, that was a mistake. The Defender, especially the 90, really stole the show. I drive an e46 M3 (for the past 10 years now) and the Land Rover sales guy threw me in a 2 door 90 immediately. It wasn't even a consideration of mine considering how "impractical" I thought it was but it's really just the same interior cabin with a tiny trunk. Most of the length 'lost' vs the 110 is in the trunk. Even better, though "hard" to get in and out of, is the rear's safari windows are located above the rear seats instead of above the trunk space in the 4 door / 110. Throw in the ~$4,000 cheaper MSRP and the $10,000-$20,000 cheaper dealer mark up and you have a really strong competitor right now. I couldn't agree with your thoughts regarding the interior comfort any more. The glass in the Defender is insulated. The roof is endlessly more practical (I prefer the panoramic roof which allows for clearance for the factory roof rack). If I'd go with the Bronco, I don't see myself taking the doors off to go to the Whole Foods hot bar on a Tuesday for lunch. Although I still really like the Bronco, it's held up too much by Wrangler design constraints it should have never forced upon itself to include. *Au revoir, Shosquatchanna.*

@golfinguru11

2 жыл бұрын

I own a 90, it's really the perfect daily for someone who off-roads only occasionally and doesn't have to haul a family (no kids yet). Best of both worlds.

@sledheadmcgee

6 ай бұрын

@@golfinguru11even with a kid it’s fine. My little girl loves jumping in the back

The Suzuki Jimny is really what you only need.

@PaulTC777

2 жыл бұрын

A modern Fiat Panda 4x4 is incredibly capable too.

@dragospahontu

2 жыл бұрын

@@PaulTC777 that's correct. But the Jimny looks cooler, although the Panda is a cool alternative.

@2011blueman

2 жыл бұрын

Can't buy a Jimny in the US unless it's a 25 year old import.

@dragospahontu

2 жыл бұрын

@@2011blueman you can import one under show and display.

@2011blueman

2 жыл бұрын

@@dragospahontu LOL, yeah but then you can't drive it. Also I don't think the Jimny will qualify for show and display, which requires the vehicle to be of "historical or technological significance.”

I appreciate the video inserts of notable issues like the screen and seat movement. Very helpful.

Love the informative cutaway short vids within the driving vid

Me and my wife are gettin a 110 in a couple years. Glad you're reviewing it 👍

I don’t know why but I love the little notebook that you jot down your stats in.

I have the 6-cylinder 90, no complaints so far other than the awful gas mileage in LA traffic + you can't put steelies on the 6-cylinder models due to the brakes. People harp on reliability but that's what the warranty is for. The cloth sunroof seems ridiculous though, considering the glass sunroof is cheaper.

Be glad when you guy tryout the defender 90 with the supercharged v8 when it comes out

They should offer a traditional roof in the Bronco for those that want less noise in the cabin.

@KTMcaptain

2 жыл бұрын

You can get a hard top. It is known. Probably will have a ton of options like Jeep for insulation and covering.

@TheSmokingTire

2 жыл бұрын

We agree.

The best reviews on the net. Thanks.

Interesting comments about start stop. My Jeep’s system won’t turn off the engine if it’s trying to cool or heat. I find it annoying that it won’t shut off if I have the ac on low with a low fan speed. Pretty much needs to have the hvac on auto and near the temp selected for it to work. . But my tazer remembers the last state of traction control and auto start stop amongst giving me full locker and sway bar control.

400hp Defender. What a time to be alive!

Driving my 90 3.0 D200 Basic (incl. 5 additional options) "green bulldog" now for 8 month. I have never been disappointed. The engine is powerful, quiet and economical for the weight of the car. The Defender is also a fantastic touring vehicle. Comfortable, quiet and agile thanks to the shorter wheelbase. Drive it in the city, in the country and on the highway. And this winter we already had ample opportunity to test the suitability for snow. I would never buy a German car. Greetings from Munich 😛

Ordered mine in June, hopefully il have it for Christmas !!!

@scrabble1000

2 жыл бұрын

@Cuddly Cat less than what you would pay for a second hand one right now !

Great review. As an owner one thing I disagree on is the pivi pro. I find it fast and much superior to others . I recently rented a bmw while traveling and found myself missing every aspect of the LR infotainment system - really I was amazed

I like that jump seat, for when you need a quick extra seat, but cannot stand ingress egress for rear seats.

Bummer, no white steelies. Would have been cool to see the cheapest base version 90 in action since we already know what a loaded-up 110 can do.

What sunglasses are you both rocking? And which walkie-talkies are the ones featured in the video (in the cup holders)?

yess

I'm less in to off-roading and really wanna know how these things, specifically the 110, tow a smaller sized (~5000 lb loaded) travel trailer. I have a Touareg TDI for towing now with a family of 4 in comfort and this seems like an ideal replacement for it in a few years without having to go with a truck. Not too many SUVs this size, this refined, with the same listed tow rating.

@Douganchesner

2 жыл бұрын

Towed a 7k lb trailer from Seattle to Atlanta in my ‘22 110. It was absolutely effortless. Also towed an airstream for many years with my LR3 which also rocked.

Personnel use 2 doors but the 4drs have a bigger tank for range.

What's more comfortable on road defender or Landcruiser 250?

Do you get the Defender 90 V8 P525 in the US? It's the 3 door Defender with the same engine as the Jaguar F Pace SVR but a bit detuned (520hp).

@RomeoKiloLimaWasTaken

2 жыл бұрын

The V8 is coming to North America so hopefully Matt and Zack get to have a go when it arrives!

Zack: champion.

Don't forget the $5-10k markup on the Bronco, and the hella long wait.

Best off roader probably

Good vid

Way more visibility and airy cabin without those silly and odd exterior side-mounted gear carrier thingies.

Thanks for the video. My only worry about this Defender is reliability.

@sledheadmcgee

6 ай бұрын

Warranty

Don’t forget about not liking the voice recognition. I’m a delivery specialist and I hate using the voice recognition. It’s terrible compared to using Siri or google (for android auto).

As a detailer i can tell you that these new Defenders are one of the most difficult cars to wash and dry.. Too many awkward areas like the front and rear light recesses.. Also, i do not think these will stand the test of time like the old models. Too much plastic in the interior which, to be fair, does have some decent details. Like too many cars nowadays though, i feel the build quality leaves much to be desired. Personally i find all of the Land Rover products to be very overpriced and not built or designed well at all. Just a detailers opinion. I deal with vehicles every day and have done for 20 years and in that time, quality, fit and finish have gone to shit..

@loonatticat

2 жыл бұрын

Which is a bigger PITA to detail- a Defender or a C7 Corvette? After 75,000 miles, I just quit trying to keep my C7 clean. It’s a total Dirk Diggler trash can at this point.

@bmxaf

2 жыл бұрын

@@loonatticat Exterior the Defender takes it, though the interior of any low-slung car can be difficult.. I'm tired of kneeling next to door sills to get my head in to pedal areas etc..

@garlic_starlet

2 жыл бұрын

What new cars do you find to be the best value for the money?

@sunnyvalentino

2 жыл бұрын

What new cars do you think are good quality in design?

@loonatticat

2 жыл бұрын

@@bmxaf That response absolutely amazes me. The C7 has so many louvers, vents and recesses, not even mentioning the 20 spoke wheels… The idea that the comparatively plain design of the Defender could be more difficult to clean is crazy.

2 door swb SUV’s are the best looking trucks

Range even larger for the diesel variants, with the same sized tank.

I asked that question to my girlfriend and she just laughed at me.

"speaking of annoying," why don't you drive. HAHA!! 🤣

4sums are harder to do than twosums so I vote two

In Norway this car is beyond pricey. Its in G wagon territory.

@miyahtallulah

2 жыл бұрын

Better than a G-Wagon.

E36 good analogy 😎😎😭😭😭😭💣💣💣🤑🤑

Did anybody else struggle with the video glitching but the audio playing normally?

@donwarner6925

2 жыл бұрын

No. It’s free.

Push the memory button on the door to make seat go back. Think smarter

❤️❤️❤️💯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

Does that giant canvas roof open or have a glass window?

Fire roads are no hard for even a lot of cars.

4800 lbs... is it made of lead?

@DaciaProject

2 жыл бұрын

No, it has a big ass.

@lappu911

2 жыл бұрын

That’s not bad at all..

Adaptive cruise control is a $1200 option. Yikes. But it comes standard on a $20k Corolla. ha

@RumblestripDotNet

2 жыл бұрын

Apple CarPlay is a $4000 option on a Ferrari.

@deathcab4booty

2 жыл бұрын

Adaptive cruise is also a $2000+ option on any Porsche

2. Far better and sexier

This road is like.. a 2WD road.

@Globbs

2 жыл бұрын

Works great for the shitty tires they put on these things.

@Finnspin_unicycles

2 жыл бұрын

It's what these SUVs would actually get used for.

Yuppie Bronco

@Aron-ru5zk

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao the bronco has removable Doors, roof and comes with a book full of accessories you can buy to bedazzle it with. How is this anywhere near as yuppie?

Land cruiser ftw..

A base bronco starts at 28k, the defender starts at 46k. Are that many people actually cross shopping the two? That’s a pretty big price difference.

@jason91notch

2 жыл бұрын

@TheGoat well yeah, obviously rich people won’t care in the price difference, but the bronco is pretty squarely in the middle class price range.

@Gearbhall

2 жыл бұрын

You might cross shop the top fully loaded bronco against a low to middle of the range land rover. The difference isn't that large if you were never considering the stripper model to begin with.

@stefangrubesic2708

2 жыл бұрын

Well many of these SUVs live in a mum's driveway and she wanted it because it looked cool, she makes $100k+ a year so she doesn't care about the price as her last lease is over

@jason91notch

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gearbhall that might be. I’m seeing defender 90’s in the mid 80s though, which is crazy to me. I know you can run a defender 110 well over 100k.

@2011blueman

2 жыл бұрын

The answer is yes, I was cross shopping them when I placed my bronco order earlier this year after having placed a reservation in July 2020, and if I hadn't been assigned a Bronco VIN in May I would have ordered the Defender 90. Most broncos you will see on the road won't be base broncos, they'll be Outer Banks, Badlands, Wildtrak, or First Edition trim packages and they'll be in the $50-60K MSRP. My Badlands with high package (not Sasquatch) has an MSRP of $53K. The Defender 90 starts at $47K and has a much nicer interior than my Badlands Bronco.

The Bronco is the coolest SUV this year, the Defender is better made but it's not as cool, you can't deny that all the hype this year was for the Bronco not the Defender.

@jpoplin1

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the 2 door wrangler with the hemi was pretty cool also!

@KTMcaptain

2 жыл бұрын

@@jpoplin1 isn’t the 392 only available with 4 doors and a swing gate (no JL or JT hemi, just JLU).

@Douganchesner

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah if you’re 18 (by age or maturity) I’m sure the bronco is cooler

@jpoplin1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Douganchesner they’ve taken more orders for the bronco than what will be built in total for the land rover!

@Douganchesner

2 жыл бұрын

@@jpoplin1 what’s your point? The Camry will sell even more. It’s not like the Defender isn’t selling well, it’s in the top ten sellers for selling out at dealerships. LR is never going to compete with the volumes of Ford it’s not even their business model.

It's kinda sad to see the defender become an SUV, they should have just launched a new line and retired the defender because an SUV is the furthest thing from a true defender they could have built. If you need more than 2 tools to rebuild it it's not a defender in my eyes, and yes those two tools are a hammer and a slightly heavier hammer

@thomasbailey4139

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's just not remotely realistic

@golfinguru11

2 жыл бұрын

Buy an old one then

Ah yes, Land Rover the king of unreliability.

@miyahtallulah

2 жыл бұрын

There had to be one. Jeep isn't known for its durability either. In fact, make that American cars in general.

@electrikoptik

2 жыл бұрын

@@miyahtallulah Yes. It's why I drive a Land Cruiser.

@derbigpr500

2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, you, the king of basing your opinion about new cars on something that was true 40 years ago.

@electrikoptik

2 жыл бұрын

@@derbigpr500 Oh I'm sorry. Is Land Rover reliable now? Please indulge me buttmuncher.

@sledheadmcgee

6 ай бұрын

If the rover has a problem we can drive one of our other six cars. 🤷‍♂️

And if we're all being honest... all things considered: Reliability, cost, maintenance, availability, capability -- I'd choose the Toyota 4Runner TRD Offroad/TRD Pro. It might not be as cool and new and flashy, but it has all the things (except removeable roof/doors) and it's quiet and it won't let you down when it counts.

this is not an offroader and that road is not an offroad

Made in Japan instead of the UK is way better. It’s just annoying having to stop every mile to pick up the 50 parts that fell off your luxury Land Rover. And who has time to take it in for repairs 3 times a week?

A 400 mile range isn't really something to brag about. Older TDI Volkswagen's and Audi's could go about 900 miles on a tank.

@2011blueman

2 жыл бұрын

A 400 mile range is good for a heavy brick like SUV. The best ranges these days are Kia, Toyota, and Honda hybrids.

Let’s go Brandon!!!

This should be the new discovery, Not the new Defender

@TradLibChinaman

2 жыл бұрын

I agree this is why Ineos Grenadier is the true new Land Rover Defender!

@madrx2

2 жыл бұрын

@@TradLibChinaman exactly

I would be very careful about putting my family in this car and using it's capability. It would get you deep off the grid, breakdown and get you stuck. Its too complicated and unreliable. Most families going to campsites etc would be better off with a RAV4 or Bronco Sport etc.

@Douganchesner

2 жыл бұрын

Moto from the drive? Am I right? Lol

@Aron-ru5zk

2 жыл бұрын

Statistically land rovers are more reliable than jeep, also Ford is partially responsible for land rovers reputation of unreliability today, so recommending a Ford instead of a brand who who had their reputation ruined by Ford is kinda ironic.

@Salsgarageadventures

2 жыл бұрын

One hell of an ignorant comment. Really shows you've never owned one. I've taken my and my wife's family 8 ppl total (3 crammed in the 3rd row) deep into the snow and deserts. Never an issue. My defender easily went through an area where a tacoma and jeep had trouble going through while the family were enjoying the views.

@sledheadmcgee

6 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t be caught dead in a jeep or bronco or rav 4. If you aren’t at a higher level it’s fine.

it doesn't look good, it looks like the next gen version of a 2009 Ford Escape. I mean it doesn't look bad but it looks super cheap

Ineos Grenadier>Land Rover Pretender(New Land Rover Defender)

Land rover is a bag of crap unreliable as anything best 4x4 get a Suzuki vitara or Toyota hilux/ landcruiser.

16:36 Actually the Bronco beats the Defender handedly at basically all off-roading, but you guys don't really do off roading, you drive on nicely maintained dirt fire roads and call it off-roading. The Defender is a nice road going SUV, but it's not an off-roading vehicle.

@RAZGR1Z

2 жыл бұрын

They basically said to buy the Defender if you were going to be driving more on paved roads than off-road. Watch the whole video.

@miyahtallulah

2 жыл бұрын

It is an off roading car, but its also good at everything else, which is why most people will prefer it.

@markwalton8644

2 жыл бұрын

There's very little that'll stop a defender in its tracks. Putting proper off roading tyres on and wheels and it'll be virtually unstoppable !!

@ThatRosco458

2 жыл бұрын

Actually every off road review of the Defender disagrees with you. I apologize you think a good off road vehicle needs to be miserable to live with I guess?

@2011blueman

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatRosco458 No, actually they don't. This is what happens when you try to actually use a Defender off-road: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZW1lo9V6g9nTmZs.html