The Labour Files - The Forde Response I Al Jazeera Investigations

In July 2022, independent barrister Martin Forde KC produced a report on racism and factionalism in the British Labour Party. Commissioned by the party leader, Keir Starmer, it identified what it called a “hierarchy of racism”, with antisemitism taken more seriously within the Party than other forms of racism.
Now Forde speaks publicly for the first time to Al Jazeera’s Investigative Unit. He reveals he has heard almost nothing from the Labour Party since the report was published. And he says he resisted pressure from the BBC to remove criticism of its 2019 Panorama documentary, Is Labour Anti-Semitic?
Forde said he felt “vindicated” by the I-Unit investigation, The Labour Files, which he found fascinating. Released in September 2022, the investigation revealed the inner workings of Britain’s opposition party, which many believe will form the next government.
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  • @SolidGoat
    @SolidGoat Жыл бұрын

    The pure silence in UK over this series is truly shocking

  • @odysseusprodromou3260

    @odysseusprodromou3260

    Жыл бұрын

    it's expected. to be 'shocked' suggests a disturbing degree of naïveté

  • @gnasher688

    @gnasher688

    Жыл бұрын

    There’s no difference in the “censoring” from the UK media than that of North Korea

  • @streetwisepioneers4470

    @streetwisepioneers4470

    Жыл бұрын

    ⚡️

  • @radicalrodriguez5912

    @radicalrodriguez5912

    3 ай бұрын

    Because it's one Establishment. They run everything, including the BBC

  • @splinterbyrd

    @splinterbyrd

    3 ай бұрын

    As we don't know how long it's going to be here, download the whole series. Spread the word

  • @AlexTiffinYT
    @AlexTiffinYT Жыл бұрын

    This should be a national story. Great work

  • @Skyjacker_

    @Skyjacker_

    Жыл бұрын

    Instead, the national corporate media have comprehensively ignored this Al-Jazeera series, and the Guardian banned everyone who so much as mentioned it in their comments sections. So much for "impartiality".

  • @M2Mil7er

    @M2Mil7er

    Жыл бұрын

    That would involve 95% of the MSM fessing up and saying "sorry, we deliberately misled you all".

  • @eggytoast

    @eggytoast

    Жыл бұрын

    Almost media blackout. You'd think the right wingers would use this to attack Labour. They ignored it because it exposes a conspiracy of Z1ionists who have infected the party and got Corbyn out.

  • @vestibulate

    @vestibulate

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Skyjacker_ The Guardian is absolutely poisonous. They've become a court of stenographers for the security state. Their coverage of Ukraine ought to shock anyone who still seeks honest reporting. I was suspended from Comment is Free during the 2014 Israeli slaughter of Gaza. My violation of their "community standards"? I had posted just two words: "Warsaw ghetto."

  • @RobinRawlings
    @RobinRawlings Жыл бұрын

    The current Labour Party and BBC political team are a total disgrace.

  • @cheekyboy5000

    @cheekyboy5000

    Жыл бұрын

    entire mass media is. There is only one racial and religious group that matters - the rest clearly do not.

  • @Paul-eb4jp

    @Paul-eb4jp

    Жыл бұрын

    How?

  • @danielcrafter9349

    @danielcrafter9349

    Жыл бұрын

    Ah yes, the Labour Party, but not the Tories 😂😂

  • @falsum2701

    @falsum2701

    Жыл бұрын

    @@danielcrafter9349 It can be both.

  • @emilymorton6510

    @emilymorton6510

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Paul-eb4jp you don't think weaponising antisemitism for political reasons is a total disgrace?

  • @chetmanley1885
    @chetmanley1885 Жыл бұрын

    So Starmer didn't get the answer he wanted and chose to ignore it.

  • @tatata1543

    @tatata1543

    Жыл бұрын

    Pretty much. So much for ‘integrity’. He’s a slime ball.

  • @andrewwalsh2755

    @andrewwalsh2755

    Жыл бұрын

    Kier Starmer: Honesty, Integrity and Patriotism... Seems like everything Kier Starmer claims... turns out to be untrue? WHY are British Trade Unions financing these lies, deceit and dishonesty?

  • @tonybennett4159

    @tonybennett4159

    Жыл бұрын

    Worse still. He said "I don't need to read the Forde report to know that the Labour Party was in a mess", therefore side-stepping the issues in the report entirely.

  • @johnpulman7137
    @johnpulman7137 Жыл бұрын

    It’s shocking how badly we are served by the major media outlets in the UK. The truth of what happened in Labour has been almost universally misrepresented by them and these Labour Files reports by Al Jazeera exposing that misrepresentation have been almost universally ignored.

  • @blogdesign7126

    @blogdesign7126

    Жыл бұрын

    agreed too!

  • @cdean2789

    @cdean2789

    Жыл бұрын

    The media were complicit

  • @5taunch

    @5taunch

    Жыл бұрын

    Happens every day

  • @wallygrainger7619
    @wallygrainger7619 Жыл бұрын

    Disgracefully ignored by mainstream media.

  • @lynndavy1965
    @lynndavy1965 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Al Jazeeera for being a media source for truth, such a rarity today.

  • @arnold-hu4vk

    @arnold-hu4vk

    Жыл бұрын

    do you honestly believe Al Jazeera has no bias?

  • @ThatDogBarkz

    @ThatDogBarkz

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@arnold-hu4vk no one said that. Save the strawman BS 🙄🥱

  • @jodders619

    @jodders619

    Жыл бұрын

    @@arnold-hu4vk They're more credible than the BBC at this point.

  • @arnold-hu4vk

    @arnold-hu4vk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ThatDogBarkz 'no one said that' Did you not read the original comment. It said 'Thank you Al Jazeeera *for being a media source for truth* ' That suggests that they consider them to be truthful. Btw, I do think that what they have done with the Labour Files is commendable

  • @arnold-hu4vk

    @arnold-hu4vk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jodders619 that isn't the same thing. I was simply pointing out that they have bias too.

  • @anmona4803
    @anmona4803 Жыл бұрын

    Shame shame shame shame on BBC and British media.

  • @jackdawes120

    @jackdawes120

    Жыл бұрын

    The Untouchables.

  • @CowDaily
    @CowDaily Жыл бұрын

    This is absolutely shocking and should be on the front page of every newspaper.

  • @patcampton7163

    @patcampton7163

    Жыл бұрын

    You can't mention it in CIF in the Guardian. You are moderated just for mentioning it.

  • @CowDaily

    @CowDaily

    Жыл бұрын

    @@patcampton7163 really Pat? I had no idea. I’ll include this in todays show. We’ll be going live soon, hope to see you there :)

  • @peterswires8439

    @peterswires8439

    Жыл бұрын

    We don't really have newspapers in the UK anymore, just propaganda sheets.

  • @amaan4834
    @amaan4834 Жыл бұрын

    This man’s a top guy, deserves a lot of respect !!!

  • @georgepeel1484
    @georgepeel1484 Жыл бұрын

    Two things - not - mentioned are, first, the lack of discussion, on The Forde Inquiry Report, within this Labour Party, once The Report had, finally, been published, and, second, the removal of The Forde Inquiry Report - in its entirety - from this Labour Party's website, without discussion or explanation, as though it had never existed.

  • @hilaryporter7841

    @hilaryporter7841

    Жыл бұрын

    But then, they would do that wouldn't they.

  • @christinewilson2395

    @christinewilson2395

    Жыл бұрын

    Where can people get a hard copy? Any ideas?

  • @henrypierce8900

    @henrypierce8900

    Жыл бұрын

    Hes not called stalin starmer for nowt,

  • @cdean2789

    @cdean2789

    Жыл бұрын

    D Notice

  • @cdean2789

    @cdean2789

    Жыл бұрын

    @@christinewilson2395 download it before it disappears

  • @lost_boy
    @lost_boy Жыл бұрын

    the guilty parties of all of the smears against Labour should be in prison for perverting the course of democracy. This is very serious and it's unsurprising that the msm and indeed the current Labour leadership aren't talking about this.

  • @emilymorton6510

    @emilymorton6510

    Жыл бұрын

    it's called political interference

  • @gnasher688

    @gnasher688

    Жыл бұрын

    Starmer the man who refused to prosecute JS when he was head of the cps because of lack of evidence !!!!

  • @emilymorton6510

    @emilymorton6510

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gnasher688 you mean Julian Assange who hasn't committed a crime?

  • @gnasher688

    @gnasher688

    Жыл бұрын

    @@emilymorton6510 - No I mean Jim S .. I can’t put his name in full because it gets deleted every time by the lack of free speech police

  • @emilymorton6510

    @emilymorton6510

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gnasher688 keir starmer let's criminals lose and locks up innocent people

  • @ajatala
    @ajatala Жыл бұрын

    Good work by AJ

  • @gnasher688
    @gnasher688 Жыл бұрын

    Wonder why this hasn’t been all over the main stream media in the UK 🤔 .. disgrace ..

  • @moldyolddough1

    @moldyolddough1

    Жыл бұрын

    Because most of the media has been complicit, so must stick to the narrative.

  • @weirdlytrue

    @weirdlytrue

    Жыл бұрын

    We need a top detective to find out 😅

  • @thegooddaypodcast2587

    @thegooddaypodcast2587

    Жыл бұрын

    Like Kanye west said. It is becoz............

  • @cdean2789
    @cdean2789 Жыл бұрын

    The report that was ignored by Starmer and the media

  • @mrcrisps3376
    @mrcrisps3376 Жыл бұрын

    I feel sorry for Martin Forde a bit, he wandered into an argument and tried to see both sides in a logical and rational manner, and of course it's only now after the fact that he'll see the full scale one-sidedness of this whole affair, he'll probably have his reputation trashed if he becomes any more active than he has been although this might be enough. And it'll be too late for him to have a real voice if he ever even stood a chance.

  • @keithhallam1155

    @keithhallam1155

    Жыл бұрын

    From the sound of what you wrote you sound sorry for yourself. Mr Forde did not 'wander' anywhere.

  • @mrcrisps3376

    @mrcrisps3376

    Жыл бұрын

    @@keithhallam1155 well I didn't but now I do

  • @patriciamcl54

    @patriciamcl54

    Жыл бұрын

    Mr Forde is a highly respected barrister and quite capable of looking after himself. You don't get to be a KC if squeaks from the Labour Party can damage your career. He did what he was asked to do, got paid, and his comments will be ignored by Labour and the BBC. He didn't "wander" anywhere.

  • @mpj12345
    @mpj12345 Жыл бұрын

    I'm not surprised Labour isn't talking to Forde, considering his report doesn't represent the party's narrative. And yet another blow against the bbc here!

  • @k1dsfav

    @k1dsfav

    Жыл бұрын

    Truth is just swept under the carpet a Such a shame

  • @biffa1234100
    @biffa1234100 Жыл бұрын

    THanks again Al Jazeera for stepping into the void left by UK MSM " In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king". Where do we go from here ?, personally I abandoned the Labour Party after initial Labour Files before Starmers direction to do so. A very dark future lies ahead for British politics , ive always believed that we get the governments we deserve and here we go again.

  • @blogdesign7126

    @blogdesign7126

    Жыл бұрын

    Congrats to Al-Jazeera!

  • @patriciamcl54

    @patriciamcl54

    Жыл бұрын

    Starmer is very foolishly junking a lot of votes in driving out the left. He has already lost a vast proportion of the British Asian vote (once the party's most faithful members) and has nothing to offer the young. He has alienated the whole union movement. He will get in but not with any real belief from the minority who will elect him. When he and Reeves thoroughly mess things up, back will come the Tories.

  • @tatata1543
    @tatata1543 Жыл бұрын

    As soon as Labour realised the report didn’t say what they wanted it to say the dropped it like a hot brick. I believe we have to get rid of the Tories but I have zero hopes that anything is going to really change. Labour will get in, tinker around the edges, get the blame for everything and get turfed out pdq. It’s beyond depressing.

  • @monkeyboyclyde

    @monkeyboyclyde

    3 ай бұрын

    We need as many left wing independent candidates as possible there is no future in switching from con to lab every ten years or so its a punch and Judy show for the public now . Time for a new coalition of progressive/ green/ socialist mps and campaign for P.R and a written constitution

  • @mouthpiece806
    @mouthpiece806 Жыл бұрын

    excellent work! keep them coming; we know there is a lot more

  • @shaesmith2831
    @shaesmith2831 Жыл бұрын

    I want someone, anyone, to tell me why I or anyone else in this country should vote for the Labour Party. Because this to me is the death of the Labour Party

  • @beccy2188

    @beccy2188

    Жыл бұрын

    You absolutely shouldn't! Vote for someone with morals and decency because choosing Labour or Tories means you're getting a cheerleader for the rich and powerful only.

  • @seandiamond7088

    @seandiamond7088

    Жыл бұрын

    Vote TUSC, a genuine socialist party for the people.

  • @casteretpollux

    @casteretpollux

    Жыл бұрын

    The working class and all people who want a socialist society need a party. That means building a new party. A difficult but essential job.

  • @beccy2188

    @beccy2188

    Жыл бұрын

    @Sean Diamond that's who I voted for last election after 2019, would like to vote for Breakthrough Party but I doubt anyone would stand in my conservative stronghold.

  • @TheNobodyspecific

    @TheNobodyspecific

    Жыл бұрын

    Because there's no other way to get rid of the Cons, unfortunately.

  • @naturalmystic67
    @naturalmystic67 Жыл бұрын

    I hope Rica Bird sues Ben Westerman for defamation.

  • @violets1958
    @violets1958 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent journalism, as always from Al Jazeera very informative. Thank you

  • @paulcharisse7746
    @paulcharisse7746 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for doing real journaslim. I hope this occurs in the UK one day to.

  • @johnw29
    @johnw29 Жыл бұрын

    Try mentioning this on Guardian without being deleted.

  • @alshahriarshuvo4270
    @alshahriarshuvo4270 Жыл бұрын

    You guys unbeatable and powerful ❤

  • @chrisbirmingham5132
    @chrisbirmingham5132 Жыл бұрын

    According to the EHRC definition, dislike of the Israeli government is only a racist offence if it is functioning as a veil or screen for some sort of irrational hatred of Jews. So even if the young man in question was asked, "Are you from Israel?" (on the face of it, implausible), there is still no sense in which that would be a racist question. For it to be so would require the bizarre construction the man himself seems to have put on it. In fact, Ms Bird would have to be assuming that the Labour Party, of which she was a member, was being manipulated at the highest level by Israel. But if she believed that and were actually anti-Semitic, why on earth would she have joined the Labour party or wished to remain a member of it? Nonsense from start to finish.

  • @cdean2789

    @cdean2789

    Жыл бұрын

    She's a Jew who is against apartheid

  • @patriciamcl54

    @patriciamcl54

    Жыл бұрын

    There's a further problem, that if it is true that Israel has far too much influence at Southside, it is now impossible for anyone to say so. I was put under investigation for questioning the amount of influence wielded by the Board of Deputies (left before I was pushed, and thank God I did) - how much worse would it be to question the Israeli connection. One of Starmer's closest associates (besides being a slimeball of the first order) actually works for an Israeli govt organisation, and is widely believed to be the inside man referred to in a recorded interview with an Israeli diplomat. But people don't dare believe that the whole anti-semitism thing was cooked up, because they would have to admit that they have been definitively fooled.

  • @cdean2789

    @cdean2789

    Жыл бұрын

    @@patriciamcl54 now the BOD are complaining that Israel is Far Right (Fascist). Careful what you wish for.

  • @Ahmed-mr4xo
    @Ahmed-mr4xo Жыл бұрын

    Sadly there's a whole raft of issues that are very poorly served by our biased MSM. To take just one incident from the panorama programme, why would any objective broadcaster take as an absolute truth the word of One individual (Westerman) against that of Two individuals without checking the facts, Westerman has no evidence, it's just an allegation, that he thought he could make without the truth coming out. Ware is blindly backing Westerman with no evidence whatsoever, and was able to broadcast this libel, it's a shame that the ladies concerned don't sue Ware, Westerman and the BBC.

  • @abehayeem1081

    @abehayeem1081

    Жыл бұрын

    The money paid by Starmer to the whistle-blowers and to prevent the case going to court must now be refunded as the Panerama programme is shown to be allegedly full of lies and deliberate misinformation. All the defamed parties should also be compensated. and apologies given.

  • @weirdlytrue

    @weirdlytrue

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@abehayeem1081 Starmer paid them against legal advice. They where paid actors.

  • @funkarola
    @funkarola Жыл бұрын

    The suppression of forde report speaks volumes

  • @shamanahaboolist
    @shamanahaboolist Жыл бұрын

    Time for legal action

  • @TomMAF4
    @TomMAF4 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Al Zazeera for doing what the UK media can't/doesn't want to apparently

  • @itsPenguinBoy
    @itsPenguinBoy Жыл бұрын

    The omission of the ladies being Jewish was enough to skew the panorama account even without the blatant lies. What Jewish person would be dumb enough at their age to presume some other Jewish person was Israeli just because they're Jewish? It literally makes no sense. Plus, obviously, the recording shows quite clearly that the exchange was misrepresented "What branch of the Party are you from?" is the question and then they talk about something else... John Ware expects people to believe that the people in the room finished their conversation and on the way out the door, stopped recording and then repeated an exchange they had just had almost word for word with key words swapped out, just to make it racist.

  • @eggytoast

    @eggytoast

    Жыл бұрын

    Panorama has a long history of shilling for Israel. Look up Jane Corbin and her coverage of the Israeli attack on flotilla aid workers. Jane's now dead husband was a member of Conservative Friends of Israel, so much for impartiality

  • @Liverpoolboy01
    @Liverpoolboy01 Жыл бұрын

    Starmer and his cronies do not represent the old young sick poor and vulnerable!

  • @tomfinney3416
    @tomfinney3416 Жыл бұрын

    i really had to wince at the bit where paramilitary armed police assaulted carriers of a coffin , such blatent disrespect that should never happen in a period of mourning

  • @shabletent

    @shabletent

    Жыл бұрын

    That was the funeral of a well respected Palestinian/ USA reporter who was shot by Israeli soldiers. She was nowhere near any thing going on at the time and appears to have been targeted. Others were wounded as well. The coffin was being carried to a vehicle when that film clip happened and the troops attacked them.

  • @casteretpollux

    @casteretpollux

    Жыл бұрын

    If you see the whole of what happened a man stepped in under a rain of truncheon blows and caught the back of the coffin before it touched the ground. But how traumatic an event, one of so many traumas.

  • @tomfinney3416

    @tomfinney3416

    Жыл бұрын

    @@casteretpollux you sound like you have encountered "the tunnel"where you are forced to run between two rows of riot police as they batter 7 bells out of you ,,,,iamglad you also realised they cannot kill the spirit

  • @cdean2789

    @cdean2789

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shabletent Shireen Abu Aqla: Violence at Al Jazeera reporter's funeral.

  • @jake751

    @jake751

    Жыл бұрын

    I'll never forget watching the funeral of the journalist assassinated by the Israeli army/police. I felt sick to my stomach 😩 it has to be the most evil thing I've ever seen live on TV. Attacking the people carrying her coffin was deplorable and cowardly. WHY? They'd already murdered her.

  • @michaelrch
    @michaelrch Жыл бұрын

    Actual journalism. Well don't AJ, and thank you to Mr Forde for his fairness.

  • @AA-hg5fk
    @AA-hg5fk Жыл бұрын

    Shame on labour and shame on the BBC!

  • @edamanchorman9218
    @edamanchorman9218 Жыл бұрын

    The Panorama person trying to get the report altered being named "Wightman" shows god has a sense of humour.

  • @stephenwillis9571
    @stephenwillis9571 Жыл бұрын

    The full recording made by the two women should probably be played if it continued. But even were the question asked from these two older Jewish ladies of a young Jewish man if 'he was from Isreal' to make this evidence of indicative of AS wihin the Labour party and more to the point that Corbyn should be held to account for what at worst appears to be a tactless remark - which the women deny even making - is madness. And the individual concerned chooses not to put any context in his testimony out if fairness to all parties so the viewer can decide its relevance. And moreover, this incident - two old Jewish ladies asking him if was from Israel, which again they deny - is the one he chooses to single out from his rampant exposure to AS within the Labour party? The BBC can say "ah yes but ast the end of the recording" but how about they admit the context would have altered the viewers perception - and make clear the two Jewish ladies deny even asking the question. The majority of the public would see this as a complete non-story, even if the ladies had asked him. It might have been tactless but even if as asserted it was two Jewish people asking another Jewish person if they were from Israel. And that was contributory evidence of Jeremy Corbyn's tolerance of AS in the labour party? Noam Chomksy declared it to have been "a complete fraud'. And the Tories don't attack Starmer for cherry picking their reports - completely ignoring the Forde report. AL Jazeera have provided an abundance of much needed ammunition for the Tories to attack Labour yet they don't use it? Why, because they want Corbyn's ideas buried as much as Starmer's Labour do - they'd rather lose the election it seems than risk resurrecting Corbyn's movement and to countenance implementing measures for a fairer society through wealth redistribution.

  • @kennyharper5891
    @kennyharper5891 Жыл бұрын

    I will never vote for Labour again under this current far right guise. Thank you for these fantastic investigations, they have proven what we all thought at the time.

  • @nabiljarad812
    @nabiljarad812 Жыл бұрын

    I am truly baffled by the ignoring of the programme by the British Media and by the lack of responses by Starmer’s Labour Party.

  • @abraxis20

    @abraxis20

    Жыл бұрын

    Really? The whole thing was the political establishment, Which includes the media, rallying round to destroy any possibility of a Corbyn-led Labour Party coming to power- something that threatened a variety of interests.

  • @Paul-eb4jp

    @Paul-eb4jp

    Жыл бұрын

    It looks like a non stoty to me, it's very much nothing to see here.

  • @IshtarNike

    @IshtarNike

    Жыл бұрын

    It's entirely rational when you realise that the media never cared about anti-semitism in the labour party. They only cared about it because they could use it as a stick to beat the left with. Once they got what they wanted (Corbyn out and discredited) their interest evaporated. They'd never retread that ground now in case their dishonesty were discovered.

  • @chrisbates7743

    @chrisbates7743

    Жыл бұрын

    Its because this whole issue is fabricated none of it is true.

  • @emilymorton6510

    @emilymorton6510

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Paul-eb4jp yeah, cos weaponising antisemitism for political reasons and political interference is a "non story"

  • @mazharul
    @mazharul Жыл бұрын

    British mainstream media needs to be boycotted

  • @annesaunders3851
    @annesaunders3851 Жыл бұрын

    The Labour Party died when Starmer became leader. The UK has joined the USA in having just one, corporation supporting uniparty.

  • @patriciamcl54
    @patriciamcl54 Жыл бұрын

    What is not often given any attention is what Forde says about the majority of Labour staffers at the beginning of his report. He was not able to interview them because they threatened legal proceedings against him personally (despite the fact that he had been hired by the party) if he said anything about them. He could not report on accusations against them without giving them the right to reply, but they wouldn't talk. I wonder whether at that point he should have demanded a change in his Terms of Reference because it meant that a whole mass of anti-Corbyn activity (some of it illegal) was not examined.

  • @tatata1543
    @tatata1543 Жыл бұрын

    Another nail in the BBC’s coffin.

  • @mauriziobruni5728

    @mauriziobruni5728

    Жыл бұрын

    Sadly only a minority will watch this, and a minority which already know the truth, at that. The BBC will continue to do its propaganda work home and abroad, as it has been doing since Mr. Reith founded it.

  • @brentgurski9021
    @brentgurski9021 Жыл бұрын

    and thats why i dont watch BBC

  • @tonybennett4159

    @tonybennett4159

    Жыл бұрын

    As a left-winger, I have some sympathy with you there, but beware. The Tories in particular have aimed to do away with the BBC for some time. That should set alarm bells ringing. If the BBC was open to be taken over by the highest bidder, don't for a second think it would be bought by a left-wing magnate. It would become like Fox News and the like. At least we have the Broadcasting Act, which, while far from perfect gives us a better chance of getting news that is not as venomously screwed as news outlets elsewhere. Once gone, it would be gone forever and disinformation would rule.

  • @MapleTea
    @MapleTea Жыл бұрын

    So John Ware/Ben Westerman are now saying there was comment made after the recording of Rica Bird's ended. Didn't they claim at one point that the comment was made after the short clip ended, and then the full recording was made public and revealed 5 mins or so of cordial conversation with no mention of Israel?

  • @MapleTea

    @MapleTea

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm also curious to know how much time passed between this coming to light and John Ware stating that the comments were made after the recording ended.

  • @pauladams1829
    @pauladams1829 Жыл бұрын

    I'll never vote Tory red, yellow or blue.

  • @VietnamTravelGuide.
    @VietnamTravelGuide. Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info

  • @chazbazza
    @chazbazza Жыл бұрын

    Don’t forget Starmer paid millions to the BBC and apologised on behalf of the party for disputing the findings of the Panorama investigation

  • @MapleTea

    @MapleTea

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, this is really important. Starmer paid large sums in damages (a 'six figure sum') out to the Panorama 'whistleblowers' despite legal advice that the Labour party would win the case. Starmer chose instead the make the apology on behalf on the party and pay out thousands of pounds of members' money. Coincidentally this happened to suit his narrative that Corbyn was an unfit leader, that the left of the party are very nad people, and theat he needed to come in and purge the left out of existence.

  • @RBTVN
    @RBTVN Жыл бұрын

    This whole Labour Files series is so important historically. In future, when a socialist once again has a chance at power, I hope this will be widely shared to remind those fickle, forgetful, ignorant or young enough to believe the right-wing/liberal Labour lies that there are no depths to which they will not sink. They are as much the enemy of the working class as the Tories, except they wear sheep's clothing.

  • @anncothromoir1018

    @anncothromoir1018

    Жыл бұрын

    Which makes them even worse in a way - a more formidable opponent, as they operate covertly - under cover of darkness. Very, very creepy people indeed.

  • @Anonymous-hd9yi

    @Anonymous-hd9yi

    Жыл бұрын

    You are all spot on. They claim to be liberal but I have tried to tell so many people that those in charge of the current labour government are the same as the conservatives or even worse

  • @streetwisepioneers4470

    @streetwisepioneers4470

    Жыл бұрын

    The time is ripe for the people to occupy the center ground (politics with a small "P") from the grassroots up; to adopt a no-non-nonsense, common sense approach, devoid of traditional left and right party political antics designed to cement artificial divisions between genuinely concerned individuals, groups, cultures, classes and races. The time has come to call it out together. Regardless of the historic objections to such a thing. I look forward to the day the REALIST in us all annihilates the OPTIMIST 🪞

  • @Titus9508
    @Titus9508 Жыл бұрын

    Is Starmer still hiding behind the sofa?

  • @doofuscreations8173
    @doofuscreations8173 Жыл бұрын

    Real journalism

  • @72rmboyd
    @72rmboyd Жыл бұрын

    The establishment control over all our parties has turned the UK into a three party, one economic orthodoxy and creating an elective dictatorship. The liberty of a democracy is not safe if people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That in its essence is fascism: ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin D Roosevelt

  • @k9wazere

    @k9wazere

    Жыл бұрын

    I remain convinced that the future is pretty bleak. We're on this set trajectory and cannot change course, and things will no doubt get a whole lot worse. We simply carry on failing to make any of the radical changes necessary merely to ensure the continued existence of life on this planet. We keep searching for short-term profit and literally nothing else.

  • @jodders619
    @jodders619 Жыл бұрын

    After the BBC has shown itself to be lead by the Tories in matters of news and what topics to discuss as well as Tory placemen right at the top is any of this a shock?

  • @telecake
    @telecake Жыл бұрын

    The denial of the existence of racism when it is in plain sight is the greatest racism of all. And Britain is expert in it.

  • @MediaRedia
    @MediaRedia Жыл бұрын

    Not sure who to believe; an independent barrister of note appointed by Starmer with a forensic knowledge of the information and no personal vested interest in the outcome of a report or a journalist and his producer chasing viewing figures who appear to have only broadcast one side of the story and provide nothing but a shallow defence of their actions when challenged? Think I'll go with the barrister.

  • @weirdlytrue

    @weirdlytrue

    Жыл бұрын

    This wasn't a rogue reporter and a producer chasing viewers. They were part of the conspiracy to stop Corbyn becoming PM😣

  • @k9wazere

    @k9wazere

    Жыл бұрын

    BBC is quickly becoming a laughing stock (only it's not funny). Probably by design, after which they'll scrap the license fee, as they've been threatening for years. A long and drawn out public execution of a once respected institution. But one that none of us can trust any longer. A shame.

  • @2tearsinabucket521
    @2tearsinabucket521 Жыл бұрын

    Sadly most the country stil haven’t watched this docuseries, nor the more convincing Israel lobby docuseries, and for people who don’t understand the Israel apartheid, watch Gaza fights for freedom by Abby Martin

  • @othniellewis5829
    @othniellewis5829 Жыл бұрын

    Lost my vote. Immediately.

  • @joekilker6373
    @joekilker6373 Жыл бұрын

    Forde looks well for his age, unless he became a barrister while still in nappies. Eight minutes in demonstrates what a disgrace John Ware's Panorama episode was, but because some hotheads, or one at least, made a criticism that couldn't be sustained, and so was successfully sued, by implication, *nobody* has a case against Ware. So I'll say it bluntly, Seamus Milne's email *was* misrepresented for partisan effect, and if Ware wants to sue me over that, he's welcome to. And it's my opinion that the Westerman dialogue was introduced to create a false narrative, but as I've said previously, anyone dealing with these people would be wise to keep recording until they've left the office, walked down the stairs, and are on the street, recording traffic sounds instead.

  • @keithhallam1155

    @keithhallam1155

    Жыл бұрын

    Apparently the two women in the meeting did continue recording, for several minutes AFTER they are supposed to have mentioned Israel. If you keep recording and filming every second you are in the presence of these liars they will still make up some other lie.

  • @manjackson2772

    @manjackson2772

    Жыл бұрын

    He's aging very gracefully, and good for him.

  • @shabletent

    @shabletent

    Жыл бұрын

    Was the criticism of how he looks really necessary, although I agree with the rest of what you said. However the criticism undermines the common sense you stated afterwards.

  • @tobyroberts6529

    @tobyroberts6529

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@shabletent he said he looks good

  • @weirdlytrue

    @weirdlytrue

    Жыл бұрын

    Rita did carry on recording. You can listen to it on Not the Andrew marr show.

  • @001tgc
    @001tgc Жыл бұрын

    Salute to AJ for your work in exposing this story. The Labour Party lost me as a black man a while back but this further confirms why I will not vote for Labour I’m any future election.

  • @AnonymousPacifist
    @AnonymousPacifist Жыл бұрын

    Heathen Labour🎭

  • @pambromley7481
    @pambromley7481 Жыл бұрын

    The truth will out eventually, I'm sure.

  • @stephenholmes1036
    @stephenholmes1036 Жыл бұрын

    Ben Westerman is a liar and John Ware should now admit he didnt check the story. Well done Mr Forde and i am an independent free thinker.

  • @josephhenry4725
    @josephhenry4725 Жыл бұрын

    Thank god for an honest media . Keep up the good work .thanks

  • @weejockpoopongmcplop
    @weejockpoopongmcplop Жыл бұрын

    I don't understand why Rica Bird hasn't sued for defamation as it seems like Mr Westerman has zero proof for his claim.

  • @themadakh3229
    @themadakh3229 Жыл бұрын

    Why is this not national news!!!

  • @elizabethhurtado2829
    @elizabethhurtado2829 Жыл бұрын

    This is the worst I've seen in California since I've lived here, there needs to be consequences for these ultra violent people at the top.

  • @adriansmith4064
    @adriansmith4064 Жыл бұрын

    This does not surprise me Labour Party worse than tory party both the same 😂😮

  • @weirdlytrue

    @weirdlytrue

    Жыл бұрын

    Which ever one is in power is the worst. Let's get rid of them all.

  • @miakaal
    @miakaal Жыл бұрын

    1984. just up the road a bit

  • @weirdlytrue

    @weirdlytrue

    Жыл бұрын

    We've been on that road for decades

  • @veronicaboyce6962
    @veronicaboyce6962 Жыл бұрын

    Al Jazeera Thanks for Sharing. It just confirmed that nothing will ever change and I have no further interest in the any of the Parties. Period.

  • @iandeare1
    @iandeare1 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely, it doesn't matter what colour, creed, or religion, is diminished. All should be equal, under the founding rules of Socialism

  • @auntijen3781
    @auntijen3781 Жыл бұрын

    The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. George Orwell, 1984

  • @mariacrouch7109
    @mariacrouch7109 Жыл бұрын

    Funny how the volume on my phone's gone

  • @odiferousmusky1299
    @odiferousmusky1299 Жыл бұрын

    a complete stitch up. big surprise.

  • @annenunney9907
    @annenunney9907 Жыл бұрын

    These people at the BBC are disgusting panorama use to be a really good program but what we have seen hear is a disgrace Martin Forde was asked to investigate by starmer and now they are ignoring him unbelievable

  • @Liverpoolboy01
    @Liverpoolboy01 Жыл бұрын

    Don’t pay the bbc tax. Integrity 🤬🤬🤬

  • @mariacrouch7109
    @mariacrouch7109 Жыл бұрын

    This should be acknowledged and talked about why is this not being listened to in the media and news this is absolutely terrible because it's not respecting this QC And his report surely this needs to be heard

  • @toyotaprius79
    @toyotaprius79 Жыл бұрын

    TLDR wouldn't cover this news story sadly

  • @juleswilko
    @juleswilko Жыл бұрын

    So very very irksome… and you can entirely understand why there might be a rise in anti Semitism as a result

  • @telsutton
    @telsutton Жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure Forde didn't get out to the regions, particularly here in Don Valley... a textbook example of how the Regional Offices suppressed Corbyn's support throughout the country. He should talk to me, and I'll tell him all about the completely-biased 'Goodyear Report', on the 2017 Don Valley AGM debacle, at which Rt Hon.Caroline Flint MP showed very low character. I've read the original leaked report, and the final document; Forde was played, and for all his expertise, comes across as naive; unable to accept that the acceptance of the IHRA 'examples' were only part of a game, to expel Socialists, and true lifelong anti-racists, from the Labour Party. Where were the mentions of Sir Trevor Chinn and Sir David Garrard stuffing the pockets of the PLP - Watson, Umunna, Austin, Woodcock, Smeeth et al - right before they'd make up another fraudulent claim of harassment on Breakfast TV/LBC etc?

  • @irenebernard9834
    @irenebernard9834 Жыл бұрын

    When will this be on please?

  • @vis7139

    @vis7139

    Жыл бұрын

    My mistake, sorry not out yet it seems

  • @Google_Does_Evil_Now
    @Google_Does_Evil_Now Жыл бұрын

    Please do a racism investigation on the Tories :-)

  • @tla2119

    @tla2119

    Жыл бұрын

    Don’t need to look hard

  • @steveday4797
    @steveday47977 күн бұрын

    No idea why the tory press aren't all over this

  • @bellhula1535
    @bellhula15358 ай бұрын

    Interesting 😮 🤔

  • @razabadass
    @razabadassАй бұрын

    Note to me: I tried to watch this as part of various learning efforts

  • @nosquarez1
    @nosquarez1 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you . This period in the party was so awful . I was inside watching fictionalised and top down bullying

  • @WildMMAAGE
    @WildMMAAGE Жыл бұрын

    Al Jazeera please open youtube channel in hindi

  • @tonyprice1526
    @tonyprice15262 ай бұрын

    Has anybody taken labour, bbc and the individuals through the courts? It would seem the obvious place for a group action to test their metal.

  • @maineusaMax
    @maineusaMax Жыл бұрын

    Do you think racism doesn't exist in any group of people you can name? Name any group of multiple people, and you'll have some. EVERYWHERE in the world too! Less in the West.

  • @casteretpollux

    @casteretpollux

    Жыл бұрын

    It's not about racism - it's about false accusations if racism being used to attack the elected leader of the Labour Party and his supporters, and about the fact that the people who did it being racist themselves.

  • @abhannan4117
    @abhannan4117 Жыл бұрын

    বাংলা থেকে বলছি,

  • @sidarthur8706
    @sidarthur8706 Жыл бұрын

    why is diane abbott repulsive? it's not clear from those messages

  • @TheSapphire51
    @TheSapphire512 ай бұрын

    If I was a Tory I would have the Al Jazeera Labour Files aired on the mainstream media in Britain.😂😂😂❤

  • @mjc01
    @mjc01 Жыл бұрын

    Bias and bigotry - absolutely obvious.

  • @chtomlin
    @chtomlin Жыл бұрын

    So if she is disgusting, it is due to her Race? Asking for better accuracy in your report? This is your evidence? This is the best you have?

  • @mphokutwana5346
    @mphokutwana53462 ай бұрын

    0:48

  • @johnreid9959
    @johnreid9959 Жыл бұрын

    Are the party still suing the ones ego leaked the what’s app on the net

  • @thomaspynchon2871
    @thomaspynchon2871 Жыл бұрын

    Why was Ware cc'ing things to the editor of the Jewish chronicle? Very dodgy.

  • @sabihatanveer8494
    @sabihatanveer8494 Жыл бұрын

    Double standards

  • @Brinslade
    @Brinslade Жыл бұрын

    smells a bit funky.

  • @odinallfarther6038
    @odinallfarther6038 Жыл бұрын

    Is Ben westerman Israeli ?