The Kuratowski Construction of Ordered Pairs

The cartesian product of two sets needs to brought across from naive set theory into ZF set theory. The Kuratowski construction allows this to be done without needing to define any new atomic structures. Instead the cartesian product can be constructed/defined using the structures and axioms that we have already defined in ZF set theory.

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  • @k.v.krishnateja2553
    @k.v.krishnateja25533 жыл бұрын

    From time ( 9:00 to 9:40 mins ) in your video, you talked about how the pairing axiom is used to create the four sets depicting the four cartesian products and how the union axiom is used to fit these two sets into a super set A X B, but if we use the union axiom, aren't we creating a super set which just has all the elements from the four sets rather than four elements, each having two elements? In other words, shouldn't the cardinal number be 8 when we use the pairing axiom and then the union axiom rather than four as it was shown in this video? And if we do want the result shown in the video, shouldn't we use the pairing axiom twice and then the union axiom? I hope I'm not asking too much by this comment but I really liked your video and I really want an answer to this.

  • @elliotnicholson5117

    @elliotnicholson5117

    3 жыл бұрын

    You use the subset axiom to create the 4 sets which represent the ordered pairs. Then the oairing axiom to put them inside sets. Then union all those sets together.

  • @k.v.krishnateja2553

    @k.v.krishnateja2553

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@elliotnicholson5117 , thank you. I didn't read your reply properly at first but I get it now.

  • @johnthescott2409
    @johnthescott24092 жыл бұрын

    i have never seen a generalization to AxBxC.

  • @Jop_pop
    @Jop_pop3 жыл бұрын

    Fyi the title of this video has a typo

  • @elliotnicholson5117

    @elliotnicholson5117

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @BlackEyedGhost0
    @BlackEyedGhost02 жыл бұрын

    (3,3) = 5 {{3}} = {4} Seems like a silly unintended consequence.

  • @user-cd8yi4dk6p

    @user-cd8yi4dk6p

    2 жыл бұрын

    But they’re just “names” for the sets, they (still) don’t have any meaning, once they do, then (based on the context) you can use what ever notation that fits