The Kongfounding Case of Donkey Kong Jr. - Missing in Action

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Welcome to Missing in Action, where we take a look back at game elements that have gone missing! But has Donkey Kong Jr. really disappeared? Or has he simply taken a different form? We investigate to see what really happened to the son of Nintendo's original baddie!
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  • @Rosssarered
    @Rosssarered6 жыл бұрын

    He was all style, He was all grace. This Kong has now been replaced.

  • @aprinnyonbreak1290

    @aprinnyonbreak1290

    5 жыл бұрын

    Missed opportunity to not put Lanky in ARMS as DLC.

  • @CaptainCoolzCT-

    @CaptainCoolzCT-

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kain Tugwell-Fisher Lol that would’ve been amazing. Whenever you hit with the arms, you would hear voice sound effects 'Style' and 'Grace'

  • @supermetroid009

    @supermetroid009

    4 жыл бұрын

    Huuuuawh! DK ...Donkey Kong!

  • @DoctorMinjinx
    @DoctorMinjinx6 жыл бұрын

    The problem is Nintendo seemed to at one point want to keep Donkey Kong Country as a separate universe. Hence why Cranky, Diddy and the other Country Kongs where never mentioned in Mario games. This also explains why Donkey Kong Junior would appear alongside Donkey Kong. When Donkey Kong appeared in games with Mario, the DKC retcons didn't exist and DK was just the same one from the arcades and had one son, Junior. But, Nintendo seemed to change their mind when the DKC games took off as well as they did and now made DK Country part of Mario's universe. Now Diddy, Cranky and other Kongs appear with Mario. This left Junior in a bad spot as he could not co-exist with Diddy, so given the Diddy was so much more popular, Junior was dropped. It's a similar story to the Koopa Kids of Mario Party, essentially Bowser Jr. Precursors getting replaced by Bowser Jr. Maybe we'll Dk Jr again some day, Pauline proves it's never too late to make an appearance.

  • @sparkleprizm199

    @sparkleprizm199

    5 жыл бұрын

    Caleb TV DK jr also made appearances here and there but he’s been playable more times than her as of yet. In the first time in nearly 40 years she’s going to be playable. So imho she’s the ultimate sign that any character can return.

  • @Super60429

    @Super60429

    5 жыл бұрын

    Modern DK = DK Jr. grown up. This has been common knowledge for a very long time.

  • @chuckarin1365

    @chuckarin1365

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Super60429 Cranky being the Original DK (aka DK Sr.) is common knowledge, but DK Jr. being Modern DK is a misconception because according to Rare and Nintendo, Modern DK is Cranky's *Grandson* meaning that DK Jr. is actually the Father of Modern DK making Modern DK known as DK the 3rd.

  • @carmenherrera8812

    @carmenherrera8812

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Pyro Flare It's not that people behind Nintendo are jackasses, it's more the fact that "original Donkey Kong being modern Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr being his son" has always been the intended continuity of Nintendo. Rare Ware just screwed up saying that it's actually Cranky Kong who is the original Donkey Kong, which doesn't allign the original canon continuity of Nintendo when it comes to Donkey Kong. Personally, I feel what RareWare did is a mistake. If it weren't for Rare doing this, Donkey Kong Jr could've still be in more Mario and Donkey Kong games. Rare could've kept the continuity that original Donkey Kong is Modern Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr is his son, as it should be.

  • @robbiewalker2831

    @robbiewalker2831

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@carmenherrera8812 A better idea would’ve been to keep the designs from DK’94 for Donkey Kong Country, make Diddy appear alongside him, have DK captured in both DKC2 and DKC3, and when Diddy is captured in DKC3, reintroduce Jr instead of bringing in the ugly Kiddy Kong.

  • @stomboyyuffie8511
    @stomboyyuffie85116 жыл бұрын

    You forgot that Gorillas age faster than humans. Making it perfectly normal for Donkey Kong Jr. to be Current DK's father.

  • @MrSpeed90000

    @MrSpeed90000

    6 жыл бұрын

    ^

  • @SuperA-64

    @SuperA-64

    6 жыл бұрын

    Exactly! That’s what I’ve been saying

  • @Dualgas

    @Dualgas

    6 жыл бұрын

    Then Baby Donkey Kong is Kranky Kong, which would make sense. But if Baby DK is modern DK, that would mean that Kranky Kong was a grandfather for at least 25 years when he fought Jumpman in the original Donkey, which could work, I suppose.

  • @Quinhala11

    @Quinhala11

    4 жыл бұрын

    Current Donkey Kong sppears as a baby together with Baby Mario, and older Mario appears as an adult together with Cranky Kong. I like to think Jumpman and Pauline are Luigi, Mario and current Pauline's parents.

  • @robbiewalker2831

    @robbiewalker2831

    4 жыл бұрын

    HyperToxBox64 And that Modern DK had Jr as his son, not as his father, meaning Cranky would be Jr’s great grandfather.

  • @Gamechamp3000
    @Gamechamp30006 жыл бұрын

    The simple answer: Modern DK is simultaneously the original DK, Donkey Kong Junior, and a totally new Kong. The characters have changed between totally separate developers without any concrete rules behind those characters' specific relationships with one another, so different developers treated those characters differently. Cranky was clearly established as the original DK, yet Mario Vs. Donkey Kong implies the modern DK to be the original DK. Thus, the true identity of DK is dependent on the individual game, with no possible series-wide consistency.

  • @ravioliman_

    @ravioliman_

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gamechamp3000 wow I didn’t expect to see you here, that’s awesome!

  • @partypup6347

    @partypup6347

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ravioliman_ same

  • @yadonkno3320

    @yadonkno3320

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've always seen mario vs dk as events that never actually happened. But I imagine that's all relevant to what you play first and speaks to you most.

  • @robbiewalker2831

    @robbiewalker2831

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yadonkno3320 same could be said about DK’94, because unlike Cranky who never wore a tie, DK in DK’94 DID wear a tie.

  • @Glockenspheal
    @Glockenspheal6 жыл бұрын

    Zelda Timeline: I'm super complex Mario Timeline: Hold my beer.

  • @justatoaster3140

    @justatoaster3140

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Zelda devs clearly don’t take there lore seriously fans should stop acting like they do.

  • @deepatlantic2222

    @deepatlantic2222

    5 жыл бұрын

    Just a Toaster This.

  • @robbiewalker2831

    @robbiewalker2831

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@justatoaster3140 You gotta admit, throwing in a separate timeline on an event that never existed doesn’t make sense.

  • @benmalsky9834

    @benmalsky9834

    Ай бұрын

    @@robbiewalker2831It’s just a game.

  • @jordanpenza685
    @jordanpenza6856 жыл бұрын

    This is literally the most Kong-fusing thing ever...

  • @MlopsFunny

    @MlopsFunny

    5 жыл бұрын

    *sigh* seriously,André?

  • @TismoProductions

    @TismoProductions

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not really. I'd say it's taxes.

  • @TailsClock
    @TailsClock6 жыл бұрын

    DK JR died in a kart racing accident that hit the Nintendo world hard enough for Mario and Cranky to end their feud. The modern DK never got to know his dad for long, and only knows the stories of when Mario was a foe. It seems like a sad story. But thankfully he has a big family that has always been around to look after him in place of his parents. He's had a good life.

  • @jlcdrawings9312

    @jlcdrawings9312

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is this canon?

  • @steveluvscows2490

    @steveluvscows2490

    3 жыл бұрын

    It turned out he didn't actually die, and simply went into hiding in the jungle to hone his Mario Karting skills, waiting to make his grand return in Mario Kart Tour.

  • @aracelirincon4972

    @aracelirincon4972

    3 жыл бұрын

    Will that was a spin off. No body cares about that one.

  • @imnotdegamer364

    @imnotdegamer364

    3 жыл бұрын

    Araceli Rincon What? That doesn’t make any sense

  • @Nintentoni

    @Nintentoni

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jlcdrawings9312 no

  • @pirate_cove_man
    @pirate_cove_man Жыл бұрын

    The Mario movie says that DK is the son of Cranky and not grandson, and honestly I prefer it that way because it implies that DK Junior was just DK as a child, which A) means he is still there right in front of our face and not missing for whatever reason while his dad and son get the spotlight, and B) greatly simplifies the genetic lore, so hopefully they'll keep that consistent from now on

  • @ThatsJustLikeYourOpinionMan
    @ThatsJustLikeYourOpinionMan6 жыл бұрын

    Jr. is likely to be gone forever except as cameos such as Smash Bros. trophies. This is a shame. But then again Pauline was pretty much gone forever too and look what has happened.

  • @ThatsJustLikeYourOpinionMan

    @ThatsJustLikeYourOpinionMan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video by the way. I hope you do more things like this.

  • @zynux8252

    @zynux8252

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pauline isn't a good comparison. She has had regular appearances in Mario vs. Donkey Kong. She hasn't been "gone forever" in over a decade.

  • @ThatsJustLikeYourOpinionMan

    @ThatsJustLikeYourOpinionMan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Zynux but before those games in the 2000's she had been absent since DK '94 to my knowledge. So that's still a huge length of time she vanished. That's what I was referring to. Not her absence between the Mario VS DK series and Odyssey.

  • @zynux8252

    @zynux8252

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ah okay, that clarifies it then. I thought you were talking about recently.

  • @cedricsy4622
    @cedricsy46226 жыл бұрын

    Donkey kong lore > final fantasy lore

  • @uno-fe5jl

    @uno-fe5jl

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pong lore>>>>Kingdom Hearts lore

  • @tobiaslumi2488

    @tobiaslumi2488

    5 жыл бұрын

    @louismlg everything is better than fnaf lore

  • @ThatTomshow

    @ThatTomshow

    5 жыл бұрын

    minecraft lore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all lore

  • @Hellopokebowl

    @Hellopokebowl

    5 жыл бұрын

    Prenses Guldane 2 Agreed

  • @SC13_45

    @SC13_45

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Hellopokebowl fnaf sucks fucking 10 year old

  • @stevensanchez2951
    @stevensanchez29516 жыл бұрын

    Nintendo brought back Pauline They should bring back Donkey Kong Jr

  • @steveluvscows2490

    @steveluvscows2490

    3 жыл бұрын

    They did, in a fashion.

  • @king_fresh27

    @king_fresh27

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean he’s a spirit in smash ultimate

  • @kingkazma3246

    @kingkazma3246

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hes back in Mario Kart Tour!

  • @GiveMeMeatballsImHungry

    @GiveMeMeatballsImHungry

    3 жыл бұрын

    King Fresh27 both of them are

  • @themobleys3045

    @themobleys3045

    Жыл бұрын

    NINENDO NEEEEEEEEDS TO BRING DK JR. BACK HE IS MY FAVORITE MARIO CHARACTER PLEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEE NINTENDO JUST BRING HIM BACK

  • @silverdamascus2023
    @silverdamascus20235 жыл бұрын

    One thing you forgot to say, in Super Mario Kart on SNES, Donkey Kong Jr. looks older and bigger, hinting that he grew up, but further appearances show him in his younger design again.

  • @ltlucster0207

    @ltlucster0207

    11 ай бұрын

    Meaning this would be the canonical last appearance (besides tour)

  • @damianruiz3777
    @damianruiz37776 жыл бұрын

    I still want to know who Bowser knocked up to get Bowser Jr.

  • @targettoad691

    @targettoad691

    6 жыл бұрын

    Damian Ruiz a 43 year old japanese man

  • @ocass66

    @ocass66

    6 жыл бұрын

    asexual reproduction

  • @Vecderg

    @Vecderg

    6 жыл бұрын

    yep, it was confirmed to be miyamoto himself kzread.info/dash/bejne/p6lmptCNlJbKddI.html

  • @is_bolo_e_cha

    @is_bolo_e_cha

    5 жыл бұрын

    He's a clone, like boba fett

  • @Daniel328DT

    @Daniel328DT

    5 жыл бұрын

    There's three theories: Kamek created a son for him with magic, Bowser used to have a wife and now babysits his son, and there are different Koopas Bowser's size that look just like him and adopted Bowser Jr.

  • @MrPanda2002
    @MrPanda20026 жыл бұрын

    We need a DK Historia.

  • @killerqueen5387

    @killerqueen5387

    6 жыл бұрын

    Something like that would expand my... knowledge on all things DK.

  • @attackcrash0758

    @attackcrash0758

    6 жыл бұрын

    More like a Mario-verse Historia.

  • @Spideymations

    @Spideymations

    6 жыл бұрын

    Bruh DONGLES i see what you did

  • @stupidlsd

    @stupidlsd

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Panda ii

  • @isaiah4820

    @isaiah4820

    6 жыл бұрын

    Check out DK Vine. They've got more information than you could ever want.

  • @sparkleprizm199
    @sparkleprizm1995 жыл бұрын

    I think he should return and be Pauline’s doubles partner like Luma to Rosalina. At the end of DK 94 it’s shown all 4 get along.

  • @starolodstar1782
    @starolodstar17823 жыл бұрын

    we found him

  • @crumplycashew7095

    @crumplycashew7095

    3 жыл бұрын

    He’s stuck as a sprite though, after getting squished by the e-card machine

  • @iYohm
    @iYohm6 жыл бұрын

    I remember an interview (probably Iwata Asks or something similar) about a guy working on Super Mario Kart (how they ended up making Mario Kart is quite fascinating by the way), and he said they picked Donkey Kong Jr because they needed characters that can be easily recognised from the back despite being pretty low res, and easy to animate, which Donkey Kong Jr's tank top provided 😊

  • @browserjunior4707
    @browserjunior47076 жыл бұрын

    Donkey Kong Jr.’s real name is Expandamous Dongulous II

  • @zetsubou1v1
    @zetsubou1v16 жыл бұрын

    It would sorta be nice if they fit junior into the canon going forward. Maybe graduate from the onesie and have a DK jr tie. He could be the tough father type that after saving his dad went out and gathered the family banana hoard.

  • @IdeaBox-dk5vj

    @IdeaBox-dk5vj

    6 жыл бұрын

    That sounds like an interesting way to reinvite him into the games. Plus, it could explain why said hoard is such a big deal in the original DKC game.

  • @aprinnyonbreak1290

    @aprinnyonbreak1290

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@IdeaBox-dk5vj The banana hoard is the last thing DK Junior got for his family... before the Great Ape War.

  • @ChristopherSobieniak
    @ChristopherSobieniak6 жыл бұрын

    Putting a tie on DK since '94 certainly has make quite an impact on how we view this guy (of course to me it comes off like preserving a cartoon cliche we've seen in old Hanna-Barbera cartoons).

  • @ZNemerald
    @ZNemerald6 жыл бұрын

    Junior is actually lucky, half of the dk crew only has one game.

  • @JohnMartin-ll9cw
    @JohnMartin-ll9cw6 жыл бұрын

    I believe that DK Jr. deserves a second chance, alongside Wart, Tatanga, Foreman Spike, Wanda, and Stanley. Also, one of the things I believe is missing in action happens to be the dragon-like first boss of the NES Legend of Zelda, Aquamentus.

  • @Supertimegamingify

    @Supertimegamingify

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well, link killed him. lol

  • @xxthedeathlordxx3208

    @xxthedeathlordxx3208

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not Wart. That was a reskinned game and everything in it is from Doki Doki Panic. Nothing lives except for bobombs, shy guys, sniflits, birdo, and if you qualify the Super Mario Super Show, Mouser

  • @Iamabum21

    @Iamabum21

    5 жыл бұрын

    In any case, SMB USA (following the lore laid out from the Yoshi's Island trilogy) was a dream Mario had. Some notable characters that do make cameos in the Mario spin-off (and noncanon) games, don't reappear in any other mainline Mario game (getting to Wart's cameo in Link's Awakening in second here) afterwards. Reason being that when we sleep and dream, the scenarios are subconscious plays out for us, often distorts things we see in them and taking that fact into consideration, characters like Birdo and Wart actually happen to be subconscious interpretations for Yoshi (egg regurgitation and jurassic similarities) and Bowser (both wetland like creatures, both use oral attacks, and both are kings), respectively. Shy Guys (Mario and co. adventures in Yoshi's Island) are the only exception to this though. On the topic of Wart's appearance in Link's Awakening, that game was also much like SMB USA, a dreamt up adventure Link had after his sailboat was wrecked in the storm for the opening scene of the game (picking up after the OoA/S true ending. Yes, I know they switched the placement of Link's Awakening BEFORE the Oracle titles, instead of the Hystoria canon for the Downfall timeline, but still, c'mon), so if anything, Wart's cameo is just an homage to SMB USA as they both partake in a dream. (Though Koholint Island disappears at the end, it doesn't prove that it never existed outside of Link's dream, as it shows up in its real form as an island in BotW, spelling /slightly/ different, much like with what I said about Birdo/Yoshi & Wart/Bowser interpretation.)

  • @bluberrydee6205

    @bluberrydee6205

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Iamabum21 I DONT FEEL LIKE READIN SH** Anyways I think Doki Doki is dead and Wart is part of Mario now.

  • @kylecampbell565

    @kylecampbell565

    4 жыл бұрын

    Randon Pseudoname mousers appeared in the Paper Mario series. Also Miyamoto himself prefers the American Mario 2 over the lost levels

  • @ianrozalez8592
    @ianrozalez85925 жыл бұрын

    Also snake asks if modern Donkey kong, is stable with Mario, and the guy (that I forgot his name was) said "nope, they're still going at it" follwing some examples, Snake then says "A chip off the old block, huh?" So you in my opinion, you are right about this whole theory.

  • @MJTRadio
    @MJTRadio5 жыл бұрын

    He's probably on that island of forgotten Nintendo characters from Captain Rainbow. But he wasn't worth rescuing.

  • @The_Shadow_Emperor
    @The_Shadow_Emperor6 жыл бұрын

    Donkey Kong Jr. is dead. They turned him into an e-Reader card.

  • @deletedTestimony

    @deletedTestimony

    5 жыл бұрын

    PEGASUS!!!!!!

  • @_G.C

    @_G.C

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Sean Ramos Good thing I can send him back

  • @Ilikebakconn2

    @Ilikebakconn2

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeet

  • @bottomtierbigo

    @bottomtierbigo

    5 жыл бұрын

    I got that joke.

  • @RockyKido

    @RockyKido

    5 жыл бұрын

    He’s up there in heaven with Chunky.

  • @SyncYu
    @SyncYu6 жыл бұрын

    But there's one question left: who's the mother? Is it Miyamoto again?

  • @homerchu7454

    @homerchu7454

    6 жыл бұрын

    SyncYu like Bowser jr

  • @Knight41b

    @Knight41b

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well... he does get around.

  • @WindowshadeCure

    @WindowshadeCure

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well, if Cranky is the current DKs father, then obviously Wrinkley is his mother

  • @aramnolastname1301

    @aramnolastname1301

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's Alex Faciane

  • @bananafilip4756

    @bananafilip4756

    6 жыл бұрын

    SyncYu wrinkley kong

  • @anrriveradxndsigamer1495
    @anrriveradxndsigamer14955 жыл бұрын

    7:30 DK junior went through a time machine

  • @azumarill1403
    @azumarill14036 жыл бұрын

    We miss you Jr, you will always be remembered.

  • @RoyNumber1
    @RoyNumber16 жыл бұрын

    Okay, we got cool bits and missing in action. Now all we just need is a new know your enemy...

  • @BurgerSoup
    @BurgerSoup6 жыл бұрын

    Toadsworth should return in the spotlight

  • @aiyai900

    @aiyai900

    6 жыл бұрын

    Bob Bobson IKR

  • @gingerrik1422

    @gingerrik1422

    5 жыл бұрын

    I mean come on the king of the mushroomworld (no not peach dumbheads) should have some more games to be in

  • @TheSmart-CasualGamer

    @TheSmart-CasualGamer

    5 жыл бұрын

    And MUSHBERT!

  • @gingerrik1422

    @gingerrik1422

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TheSmart-CasualGamer of course mushbert nowone will forgot him

  • @hanasong8013

    @hanasong8013

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Frizzurd The general consensus is that the original "Toad" is just a generic man. Every other Toad looks exactly like him (except for the ones that are special)

  • @64speed50
    @64speed505 жыл бұрын

    Similarites between Jr. and Waluigi 1: They were both meant to be something bigger 2: They both only had tennis in the end 3: Got a smash brothers role taken from them

  • @NintendoLover2005
    @NintendoLover20053 жыл бұрын

    He's back in Mario Kart Tour!

  • @leehiley444
    @leehiley4446 жыл бұрын

    Diddy Kong only appeared in Rare games, until they were bought by Microsoft. That's probably why they switched from Junior to Diddy for Double Dash, which likely started development before the buyout, but was released after. Nintendo probably didn't want to step on Rare's toes and first, but after Microsoft bought Rare, there were no toes to be stepped on. Hopefully Junior will return one day. It was nice seeing new sprites in Super Mario Maker (swimming, crouching etc).

  • @1uan2wo3tree
    @1uan2wo3tree6 жыл бұрын

    Missing in action went missing in action for a while

  • @Kennykazey
    @Kennykazey6 жыл бұрын

    Bring Donkey Kong JR back in Mario Tennis Aces or we riot!

  • @Cellmate412162

    @Cellmate412162

    5 жыл бұрын

    Super Kenny Better idea... Bring Donkey Kong JR back in Mario Tennis Aces or we’ll release gorillas on construction sites!

  • @blossom6309

    @blossom6309

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Cellmate412162 I wish mario tennis 64 have remake I wish Nintendo replace dk jr with dixie kong new characters are koopalings costumes are classic ones pee piranha king boo classic

  • @vegetafan9922
    @vegetafan99225 жыл бұрын

    "if Jr. ever did reappear it would be in his standard design." Within this same video was shown Jr.'s cameo in the audience of Waluigi Stadium in Mario Kart Double Dash which shows him using a redesign more akin to Country...

  • @pirakax12
    @pirakax126 жыл бұрын

    The biggest reason diddy was used from double dash and forward and even why jr was orginaly planned, Was actualy becasue rare was bought by microsoft. Rare acted as a 2nd party to nintendo but they co-owned all original charcters in DKC series including diddy. This ment that if they where to use diddy outside a rare game nintendo had to pay royalties to Rare. So instead they tended to use jr instead. But when rare got bought out by microsoft in 2002 with it they lost all rights to the kong family and they where compeltly owned by nintendo. Allowing them to use the more regonizable and icon diddy.

  • @Jungy_Mungerson

    @Jungy_Mungerson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this information

  • @brobag9885
    @brobag98856 жыл бұрын

    Missing in Action: The Donkey Kong 64 kongs! Tiny hasn't appeared since Mario Super Sluggers in 2008, Lanky hasn't appeared since Barrel Blast in 2007, and Chunky hasn't appeared in ANYTHING since DK64. Please find them!

  • @chrischan3066

    @chrischan3066

    5 жыл бұрын

    MyManNathan cameos in smash ultimate

  • @JonnyJinx04
    @JonnyJinx046 жыл бұрын

    Great video. One other strange thing about DK Jr's appearance in Mario Tennis 64 was that, when he wins a Cup, during his victory cutscene, he gets hugged by Donkey Kong. This would imply that the intent was that this DK Jr is Donkey Kong's son, rather than being an alternate timeline version of him like Baby Mario. Perhaps the DK Jr from Mario Tennis and MKDD is yet ANOTHER DK Jr who is the son of the modern DK?

  • @gustyko8668
    @gustyko86684 жыл бұрын

    They should probably make a grownup DK Jr appear as modern DK's long lost father, as well as Cranky's long lost son.

  • @robbiewalker2831

    @robbiewalker2831

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or just make DK Jr into modern DK’s son and Cranky’s Great Grandson.

  • @JangoFox
    @JangoFox6 жыл бұрын

    Obviously DK Jr. is living in New Donks City as a construction worker. :P

  • @Alice-FE
    @Alice-FE6 жыл бұрын

    KONG-FUSING, ANDRE, YOU'RE THE PUN MASTER

  • @TheNintendoWizrad
    @TheNintendoWizrad6 жыл бұрын

    Great video derek. Best content on gamexplain always comes from you

  • @xxthedeathlordxx3208
    @xxthedeathlordxx32085 жыл бұрын

    At the end, with the Mario age vs DK age: Gorillas have far shorter lifespans than that of a human, thus, it does make sense that Cranky Kong is the original DK with Mario appearing in his game.

  • @piepivotmonitor5986

    @piepivotmonitor5986

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. And i'm going to punch all the people who think otherwise.

  • @bert7651

    @bert7651

    4 жыл бұрын

    Then why won't Cranky hurry up and die?

  • @paperluigi6132

    @paperluigi6132

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bert7651 He's got a lot of fight left in him. Also, I wonder what the age difference is/was between Cranky and Wrinkly

  • @BLyonsDesign
    @BLyonsDesign6 жыл бұрын

    9÷3=6 8×1=9 4+2=5 You heard it here folks

  • @canigetto999subscribersple9

    @canigetto999subscribersple9

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's how math works

  • @NormalPerson-idk

    @NormalPerson-idk

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks now next time at pre-k ill be able to tell a answer 😂

  • @FilmBucket

    @FilmBucket

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thats how mathia works

  • @DuskyPredator
    @DuskyPredator6 жыл бұрын

    I kind of liked the theory that the original Mario of Donkey Kong is the modern one's father, he was a carpenter instead of a plumber. The appearance of Pauline in Odyssey could make a problem with. But also, the cannon of the Mario universe is weird, roles of character can shift in playing sports, their timeline jump around, and I think the past in Odyssey could even be pixels.

  • @shyguy85
    @shyguy853 жыл бұрын

    we got him back! now he'll leave for another 10-20 years.

  • @KraigFang
    @KraigFang5 жыл бұрын

    Great vid! I played so many Nintendo games growing up... great memories :)

  • @CluelessAnon
    @CluelessAnon6 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see DK Jr appear as an adult with a bald spot and a coffee mug in a future game. Then he's all like "Hey kiddo! Been a while! Hope your old granddad hasn't been too hard on ya!"

  • @Dirtblokje154

    @Dirtblokje154

    6 жыл бұрын

    Colin Parlett cringe

  • @unclerichardssmokedetector9769
    @unclerichardssmokedetector97696 жыл бұрын

    I love the missing in action and cool bits series. Please never let them go _missing in action_

  • @TheRogueMaverick
    @TheRogueMaverick5 жыл бұрын

    With the fact that Mario Tennis Aces has so many characters, some kinda unexpected, I could see Junior reappearing in that game!

  • @harrybest2041
    @harrybest20415 жыл бұрын

    6:08 *Donkey Jr* I Didn't Know Donkey Jr Was A Thing Before Donkey

  • @samuelthecamel
    @samuelthecamel6 жыл бұрын

    I am kongfused by the konggregation of kongsecutive kong puns in this kongversation.

  • @novathefallenstarwarrior

    @novathefallenstarwarrior

    6 жыл бұрын

    Samuel Voltz You sir, have won the Internet

  • @Wheaty03

    @Wheaty03

    6 жыл бұрын

    the amount of puns you made is kongfounding

  • @d3rpyedits

    @d3rpyedits

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kim Kong Un

  • @quantumflare

    @quantumflare

    5 жыл бұрын

    I am indeed kongfounded

  • @Mattgamer003
    @Mattgamer0036 жыл бұрын

    Missing in Action: Koopa Kid

  • @Wanten-the-stormtrooper
    @Wanten-the-stormtrooper6 жыл бұрын

    I believe that this is one of the few topics of Missing in Action that hasn't returned since it's video - Adeline reappeared in Star Allies (as a DLC Dream Friend), Mighty, Ray and the Hooligans came back in Sonic Mania (/Mania +) in one way or another, so only DK jr., Takamaru and Sarasaland are still absent. Maybe they too will return at some point...

  • @kevintreanor
    @kevintreanor6 жыл бұрын

    3:56 I absolutely LOVE the buildup to the main line of Jungle Hijinx. That for some reason gave me shivers

  • @silverdamascus2023
    @silverdamascus20236 жыл бұрын

    Missing in Action: Stanley the Bug Man (Mario/Donkey Kong) Missing in Action: Stuff from Super Mario Land 2 (Mario) Missing in Action: Tatanga (Mario) Missing in Action: Wart (Mario) Missing in Action: Shellcreepers (Mario Bros. Arcade) Missing in Action: Kiddy Kong, Lanky Kong and Chunky Kong (Donkey Kong) Missing in Action: Rudy the Clown (Wario Land) Missing in Action: Real-world cities (GTA) Missing in Action: Real-world (Pokémon) Missing in Action: Pre-Windows cast (Touhou) Missing in Action: Tawna Bandicoot (Crash Bandicoot) Missing in Action: Tarzan (Kingdom Hearts) Missing in Action: Battletoads Missing in Action: Alex Kidd

  • @YuukiTakemoto1996

    @YuukiTakemoto1996

    Жыл бұрын

    Tawna is back, but YES for Touhou stuff. WHERE IS MIMA

  • @unwelldanny7108

    @unwelldanny7108

    9 ай бұрын

    Alex Kidd has new games now. But I'd kill for the pre-Windows cast. I think Mountain of Faith was a soft reboot.

  • @silverdamascus2023

    @silverdamascus2023

    9 ай бұрын

    The Battletoads also came back, this list is old. Chunky Kong also made an appearance in the Super Mario Bros. movie.

  • @DKVine
    @DKVine6 жыл бұрын

    A pretty evenhanded look! Whenever i was about to disagree with something you said or scream at the video to refute it, you'd come along and make that same point (the "Baby Mario was also in Mario Tennis" bit). One thing: Cranky specifically mentions raising the modern DK in DKC Returns. "I didn't raise you in a barn!" This would imply the possibility that DK could be Cranky's (and Wrinkly's) biological grandson who was still raised by them when their actual son or daughter vanished or died. This is the "Missing Generation" theory, and it allows the modern Donkey Kong to be both DK Jr. AND the grandchild of Cranky.

  • @deletedTestimony

    @deletedTestimony

    5 жыл бұрын

    Holy duck, that makes more sense than anything. Grandparents often refer to adopted grandchildren as if they were direct children. It's possible in that regard for Cranky to be DK's grandfather and then also adopted father.

  • @Chhipz
    @Chhipz5 жыл бұрын

    Props for using one of, if not the best Donkey Kong themes in Seashore War from Tropical Freeze.

  • @JDXtraction
    @JDXtraction3 жыл бұрын

    He came back in Mario Kart Tour.

  • @Maklopdsreturned
    @Maklopdsreturned6 жыл бұрын

    It would be awesome to see one of these missing in action videos of Stanley the Bugman. He's got a lot of history behind him.

  • @Mom-cf2je
    @Mom-cf2je6 жыл бұрын

    “Was this Nintendo’s intent?” A question GameTheory would never ask

  • @tristan_talks_tech

    @tristan_talks_tech

    6 жыл бұрын

    So true! 😂

  • @robbiewalker2831

    @robbiewalker2831

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed.

  • @steveluvscows2490
    @steveluvscows24903 жыл бұрын

    And 2 years later, the Lost Kong was brought back... In a very blocky form, soon to be riding Karts on Mobile.

  • @Vezmus1337
    @Vezmus13376 жыл бұрын

    It's simple: Cranky is the original Donkey Kong from the arcade game, Donkey Kong Jr is his son, and the new Donkey Kong is the third. The DK64 quote where Cranky calls Donkey Kong III his son is either in error or simply using the "heir" definition (e.g. a son and a grandson both being called "sons"). This is the "canon" lineage that you will find on the Donkey Kong wiki.

  • @aidanlol5239
    @aidanlol52396 жыл бұрын

    A family tree would've been useful to discuss how Junior plays in to everything. I got pretty lost at those points.

  • @TheNerdySasquatch
    @TheNerdySasquatch6 жыл бұрын

    Who would have thought that the Mario and Donkey Kong Country timeline would be more complicated than the Zelda timeline?

  • @natnew32

    @natnew32

    5 жыл бұрын

    If Baby DK is actually the baby version of DK JR (It's ambiguous enough to allow that), the dates/times of all games line up perfectly. Baby Cranky works too, but with some reservations. But Baby-Modern-DK, as the video states, throws everything out of whack.

  • @SJMan2022

    @SJMan2022

    5 жыл бұрын

    remember BoTW is in all three timelines

  • @xxthedeathlordxx3208

    @xxthedeathlordxx3208

    5 жыл бұрын

    No Richard Pape, it is clearly in the failed hero timeline cos you fight Gabon in demon form instead of as Ganondorf

  • @KOTEBANAROT

    @KOTEBANAROT

    5 жыл бұрын

    "zolda timlein iz hard" is a meme with no actual basis, stop forcing it

  • @zrobeast

    @zrobeast

    5 жыл бұрын

    I’m now awaiting a million split timeline theories for DK.

  • @benmalsky9834
    @benmalsky98342 жыл бұрын

    Donkey Kong Jr.’s inclusion in Mario Tennis and his unused model in Double Dash has a very simple reason behind it. Diddy was treated and thought of as a Rare original character and it wasn’t until Rare’s acquisition by Microsoft that Diddy started appearing in non-Rare titles. Because of this, Nintendo could only use DK Jr. as a partner in various games and it’s possible had Rare stayed, it would have remained that way. As far as I’m aware, that explains why Diddy only appeared in Rare-developed titles until Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour.

  • @oswaldoguevara5676
    @oswaldoguevara56764 жыл бұрын

    Oh man..DK JR is one of my favorite of all time!! He should made it to Super Smash Bros roster.

  • @JuriSins

    @JuriSins

    4 жыл бұрын

    lol i hope you're joking

  • @bert7651

    @bert7651

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JuriSins DK Jr. is better than Diddy, sorry. ... not sorry.

  • @takodacorliss5838
    @takodacorliss58386 жыл бұрын

    I’d honestly really like to see DK Junior get into Smash as a retro semi-clone of the standard DK

  • @3.5mmJack
    @3.5mmJack6 жыл бұрын

    Holy moly, I think this is the best edited GameXplain video ever. Well done Derrick, it must have taken a long time to edit this.

  • @GameXplain

    @GameXplain

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Jamie Camilleri Thanks!

  • @villain5873
    @villain58735 жыл бұрын

    1:52 With that math, I could have graduated.

  • @Artista_Frustrado
    @Artista_Frustrado6 жыл бұрын

    The series is back, finally MIA is no longer MIA. So if he was to return it would be DK Senior?

  • @Mattgamer003
    @Mattgamer0036 жыл бұрын

    We need a Missing in Action for Koopa Kid from the Mario Party series

  • @thenextnx1765

    @thenextnx1765

    6 жыл бұрын

    I need that now!!!

  • @macalao
    @macalao6 жыл бұрын

    I wish you guys did this kind of video more often. They're great!

  • @danielcline5263
    @danielcline52634 жыл бұрын

    I don’t know what it is about the Donkey Kong Jr. artwork, but it just looks so satisfying

  • @Tranceplant82
    @Tranceplant826 жыл бұрын

    I do miss DK JR and would love to see another game similar to classic DK JR. :)

  • @simondomino
    @simondomino6 жыл бұрын

    You should do a Missing in Action for Koopa Kid

  • @mwj9080

    @mwj9080

    5 жыл бұрын

    Really good idea

  • @rarm5899
    @rarm58996 жыл бұрын

    I’d love to see Jr. come back in a future DKC game as the villain with a vendetta against Diddy for replacing them. Then he recruits a bunch of the old Kongs and starts a Kong Civil War.

  • @InputEthan
    @InputEthan3 жыл бұрын

    Dk jr is making an appearance as a playable character in Mario kart tour for Mario’s 35 anniversary

  • @manboi1794
    @manboi17943 жыл бұрын

    He's been found in mario kart tour!

  • @DarkAura19
    @DarkAura196 жыл бұрын

    Whoa who could have possibly seen this coming? No hints were dropped about this whatsoever!!!!

  • @sb_unlimited2211
    @sb_unlimited22116 жыл бұрын

    Loving the revival of this series,keep it up!

  • @heavenlyexperience2656
    @heavenlyexperience26565 жыл бұрын

    I had figured out the mystery. He had died in world of light and was turned into a spirit.

  • @KirbyRKR
    @KirbyRKR6 жыл бұрын

    I never knew that DK JR was supposed to be in Double Dash! :-O Great video though but Super Mario Odyssey proved that the guy from the Arcade game can't be Marios father since Pauline appeared there and told the Mario from all the other games about the events from said game. Meaning that Baby DK from Yoshis Island DS must be Cranky Kong as a baby.

  • @natnew32

    @natnew32

    5 жыл бұрын

    "Meaning that Baby DK from Yoshis Island DS must be Cranky Kong as a baby." Umm... where did that come from? I mean the dates line up but... baby DK JR also has the dates line up. Also, pick your favorite: === BABY-DK-IS-DK-JR === DONKEY KONG GAME: Mario (~20) Cranky (~30) DKJR (~20) 'MARIO' SERIES + SPINOFFS + DK COUNTRY: Mario (26) (Thanks, Melee) Cranky (36) DKJR (26) Modern DK (26) (Alternate- DK country happened a few years later) === BABY-DK-IS-CRANKY-KONG === DONKEY KONG GAME: Mario (~25) Cranky (~25) DKJR (~15) 'MARIO' SERIES: Mario (26) (Thanks, Melee) Cranky (26) DKJR (16) Modern DK (6) 'MARIO' SPINOFFS (including Mario vs. DK) Mario (30) Cranky (30) DKJR (20) Modern DK (10) DONKEY KONG COUNTRY SERIES Cranky (~40) DKJR (~30) Modern DK (~20)

  • @randombluetoad1308
    @randombluetoad13086 жыл бұрын

    ANDRE? ANDRE, HAVE YOU BEEN MESSING WITH MY SCRIPTS AGAIN???

  • @buddyfree1321
    @buddyfree13216 жыл бұрын

    Man the mario cannon is more complicated than Kingdom hearts. XD

  • @DiabloZackary
    @DiabloZackary3 жыл бұрын

    "donkey kong jr, missing in action" the rest of the dk crew: "am i a joke to you?"

  • @MissAshley42
    @MissAshley426 жыл бұрын

    I see two paths to take here: 1) The _Donkey Kong 64_ manual was a fluke, and Junior was always supposed to be the middle Kong. 2) The lineage established by Rare was never noticed by Nintendo, and Junior was only officially made the middle Kong with the Retro games. Also, _Yoshi's Island 2_ can be ignored outright. (It's. . .not a good a game.)

  • @chuckarin1365

    @chuckarin1365

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's the first option, DKC3 and DK64 were made by a different team at Rare rather than the original team that made DKC and DKC2 meaning the 2nd team messed up on the lore details.

  • @Commander034
    @Commander0346 жыл бұрын

    You forgot to account for the fact that Gorillas have a life span of 35-40 years. Cranky Kong can be the original Donkey Kong and face the modern Mario without any issues in age coming up.

  • @christianthompson2768
    @christianthompson27686 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely love this series. Even brought Cool Bits back to reintroduce it! Now all we need is know your enemy...

  • @kenterminateddq5311
    @kenterminateddq53116 жыл бұрын

    My god, I completely forgot about Donkey Kong Jr!!!!! Diddy Kong was so beloved in the Donkey Kong Country series that it seems that Donkey Kong Jr. don't really exist. I like to know what happen to Donkey Kong Jr. during the NES era. Thank you, GameXplain.

  • @carmenherrera8812

    @carmenherrera8812

    4 жыл бұрын

    Donkey Kong Jr is just replaced by Diddy Kong.

  • @jaye4521
    @jaye45216 жыл бұрын

    I always thought DK Jr. would be a great "retro" character in Smash Bros. Despite not showing up in years, he's still really iconic with old-school gamers and could be a good representative of the "arcade" series of DK games.

  • @FastyPace
    @FastyPace6 жыл бұрын

    What's with Lanky, Chunky and Tiny? We haven't seen them in a long time as well. If I'm correct, we only saw them in two games.

  • @TheCartoonGamer8000
    @TheCartoonGamer80006 жыл бұрын

    AGHHAAHH MY HEAD HURTS

  • @raedavis9528

    @raedavis9528

    6 жыл бұрын

    TheCartoonGamer8000 Boom photo

  • @IvyBrooksHobkin

    @IvyBrooksHobkin

    6 жыл бұрын

    donkey kong jr is donkey kong, cranky says that in country, cause cranky was the original dk

  • @sansliam2135

    @sansliam2135

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ah... you saw the pun in the title?

  • @KaygeeFromNanotrasen

    @KaygeeFromNanotrasen

    6 жыл бұрын

    TheCartoonGamer8000 watch game theories Mario timeline

  • @nukenick6102

    @nukenick6102

    6 жыл бұрын

    TheCartoonGamer8000 mine to

  • @DevilFish69
    @DevilFish696 жыл бұрын

    I wish they would bring DK Jr back. He was an icon in the eighties. He had his own game. His own breakfast cereal, His own cartoon. He's way cooler than Diddy Kong and is one of Nintendo's first ever mascots. He should be in the nest Kong game.

  • @unwelldanny7108

    @unwelldanny7108

    9 ай бұрын

    I wish that I grew up in the '80s so I could have the video game cereals. I never bought the Super Mario Cereal, but I saw it at ShopRite.

  • @PatLund
    @PatLund6 жыл бұрын

    Diddy is a better designed character anyway.

  • @robbiewalker2831

    @robbiewalker2831

    3 жыл бұрын

    But DK Jr is better designed compared to KIDDY Kong.

  • @Ur2ez4me81
    @Ur2ez4me816 жыл бұрын

    A 3d DK Jr. would be kind of dope... Speaking of Kongs though still can't believe Donkey is not in Mario odyssey. Would be awesome seeing a big DK roaming around New Donk city & smashing building or something...

  • @newageBoundhippie

    @newageBoundhippie

    6 жыл бұрын

    actually I'd love to have a kingdom based on the DK Isles from the DKC games, with DK & other Kongs as NPCs. The enemies could be various Kremlings, Tikis and Snowmads ( fun capture possibilities there too ), and King K Rool could serve as the main boss of the world. Purple coins could resemble bananas, and new costumes could be based on Funky Kong, DK Junior Kaptain K Rool and Baron K Roolenstein. and there could be a 2D sequence based on DK Junior too, focused on using vines to get around

  • @YuukiTakemoto1996

    @YuukiTakemoto1996

    Жыл бұрын

    That's the first time I've seen someone call DK "Donkey." Danny's classmate calls him that when he plays as him in Super Mario Sluggers. Danny was like, "TF??"

  • @RAVAGE656
    @RAVAGE6566 жыл бұрын

    missing in action: king k. rool

  • @cp93archive60

    @cp93archive60

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ikr

  • @03bgood

    @03bgood

    6 жыл бұрын

    And DK: King of Swing. Not sure about DK: Jungle Climber.

  • @03bgood

    @03bgood

    6 жыл бұрын

    And DK: King of Swing. Not sure about DK: Jungle Climber.

  • @Jamster8399

    @Jamster8399

    6 жыл бұрын

    actually no, Rare lost the rights to those characters after Microsoft bought the British game developer, besides they still make appearances in other DK games

  • @stuff5499

    @stuff5499

    6 жыл бұрын

    missing in action: -funny face- lanky kong, tiny kong and chunky kong

  • @rabiroden
    @rabiroden5 жыл бұрын

    DK Jr. also starred in the GBA e-Reader commercial, where he gets crushed by a machine into the shape of a card. Yep.

  • @BainesMkII
    @BainesMkII6 жыл бұрын

    Since the relationships changed back and forth a few times, this video might have benefited a bit from a concise chart of which games (and alternate sources) directly supported which relationships.