When I was in Seminary, the Kirtland Bank disaster was carefully worded and distorted in context to subtly blame it on the rank-and-file members. But isn't that what the LDS church has always done?

@danehales7119

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly

So Joseph Smith wanted to start his own Federal Reserve.

@stephjo99

2 жыл бұрын

They ended up getting it any way through the 1933 federal reserve bank act Mariner C Eccels 🤮

Unintentional ASMR

This is starting to make so much sense now. Those who stayed in the Church in spite of such crushing evidence against Joseph Smith's prophetic nature carried with them the tenancy of denial. It might be cultural. It might be genetic. But what ever it may be, they passed it onto their descendants. This is why we have so many members of the church stay in the church in spite of learning about these kinds of things.

@truthseeker4431

8 жыл бұрын

Part of the reasons. The death oaths in the temples, and close knit family ties are some of the factors also. The we v. them ideology of fear too.

@carsonbarlow348

8 жыл бұрын

S.L. Barnhart Death oaths? Got any good articles about that?

@truthseeker4431

8 жыл бұрын

Carson Barlow : Check out Mike Norton's videos of the secret temple oaths videotaped. Also under newnamenoah on KZread.

@leightonius

8 жыл бұрын

www.mormonthink.com/temple.htm It's a long article but it talks about the death oaths about a 1/3 of the way down under the section titled "Why was the ceremony changed in 1990?".

@carsonbarlow348

8 жыл бұрын

Leighton Duffin Thanks for that article. Oh the things I wish I could tell my mormon friends.

Your about the only person I've who uses logical facts presented neatly while getting to the point against the church on KZread. It's like all the others just go about it the wrong way unlike this video. I personally like the calm feeling and the points are listed instead of the loud and aggressive feel which also many time has failed the points put out. Thank You

@2ndai385

8 жыл бұрын

But then again I also see you using a mirroring technique, similar to the church videos, that in away those who are Mormon would undoubtedly understand with vast majority of the lower small minded people and lack of progression in life. Very clever. I do see a lot of of the things you've put in here which IMO would be on par with basic imbedding and triggers to therefor make your argument more convincing. Now I truly applaud you with your skill, and power that you wield. So I wish you'd good luck.

It's been a while since your last video, and while I wouldn't want to rush you I just want to say I really look forward to whatever comes next. I really enjoy your channel

Please o can’t wait for your next video!

I really like your videos. Keep 'em coming.

Saludos The Mormon Informant, Favor poner subtitulos en español, gracias.

Why were people back then so easily persuaded by magic folklore? Following a seerist and then back to Joseph... what was it back then that caused people to attach to things so easily. Or do we still see people fooled away into religious folklore such things as easily today? I would say we dont today, but back then it seems people were drawn to superstitious magic folklore much easier

@TheMormonInformant

5 жыл бұрын

Ever heard of essential oils? Homeopathy? Healing crystals? MLM's? Flat Earthers? Anti-Vaxers? Gullibility is a huge problem today, just as it was in the 1800's.

@Tmanaz480

4 жыл бұрын

Many weren't taken in at all. It's only necessary to fool enough people to get the cult going. Living in relative isolation and creating an "us against them" persecution myth helped lock them in.

Can you please point me to a source talking about this young lady prophetess who convinced the three witness that JS was a fallen prophet? I had never heard about that before. What was her name and where can I find sources please? 🙏🙏

@TheMormonInformant

Жыл бұрын

It's from Lucy Mack Smith's "Biographical Sketches." The girls name is not mentioned. books.google.com/books?id=PkNOAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA213#v=onepage&q&f=false

@spicytranslations9604

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMormonInformant Thank you

I’ve never heard of this seer-girl, does anybody have more info about her? It’s hard to find any info, because the search results are dominated by Joseph’s Child-Brides

@TheMormonInformant

4 жыл бұрын

"At this time a certain young woman, who was living at David Whitmer’s, uttered a prophecy, which she said was given her, by looking through a black stone that she had found. This prophecy gave some altogether a new idea of things. She said, the reason why one-third of the Church would turn away from Joseph, was because that he was in transgression himself; that he would fall from his office on account of the same; that David Whitmer or Martin Harris would fill Joseph’s place; and that the one who did not succeed him, would be the Counselor to the one that did. The girl soon me an object of attention among those who were disaffected. Dr. Williams, the ex-justice of the peace, became her scribe, and wrote her revelations for her. Jared Carter, who lived in the same house with David Whitmer, soon imbibed the same spirit, and I was informed, that he said in one of their meetings, that he had power to raise “Joe Smith’ to the highest heavens, or sink him down to the lowest hell. ...They held their secret meetings at David Whitmer’s, and when the young woman, who was their instructress, was through giving what revelations she intended for the evening, she would jump out of her chair and dance over the floor, boasting of her power, until she was perfectly exhausted. Her proselytes would also, in the most vehement manner, proclaim their purity and holiness, and the mighty power which they were going to have." -Lucy Smith: Biographical Sketches, pp. 211-213

Please turn the music down. It makes it difficult to listen.

@TheMormonInformant

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry my free content isn't up to your standards.

@noname-ml2pd

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMormonInformant Trying to help you reach more folks. The music makes it difficult listen. Sorry I tried to help. Your attitude suggests you don't want me as veiwer. You got it.

@TheMormonInformant

2 жыл бұрын

Bye! :)

This makes it sound like Oliver Cowdrey left because of all this though evidence shows it was due to the affair with Fanny Alger.

@TheMormonInformant

3 жыл бұрын

There were several factors, including financial and legal disputes. www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/minute-book-2/121

The LDS church is flourishing because the Good Lord has Blessed it.

@TheMormonInformant

8 ай бұрын

Your church is already shrinking in relation to the world population, and will officially be in decline by 2030. 36% of people born in the LDS church leave and never come back. Less than half of millennials born in the church are still members. 34 percent of Gen Z are religiously unaffiliated, and that number is climbing. Only a third of gen Z members are predicted to stay in the church. Your active membership is less than five million. That's only 0.06% of the world population. That is as high as that percentage will ever be.

@fartexplosion4480

8 ай бұрын

Why didn't God bless the Kirtland Safety Society enough to prevent it from collapsing within just a year?

This is, I must say, the slickest anti-Mormon propaganda I have seen to date. The distorted use of truth and half-truth, the background music, and graphics are markedly more sophisticated than in past efforts by apostates. We are not deceived however. And no one else need be.

@TheMormonInformant

7 жыл бұрын

Still waiting for you to demonstrate any deception on my part. I have offered to provide primary sources for any claim which you believe to be false. I look forward to that discussion.

@ShannonGrover

6 жыл бұрын

I find it very interesting that the most anti-mormon stuff out there is from the mormon church itself.

@ShaneGoldbergLive

5 жыл бұрын

So..... What part is it that you actually disagree with? The anti mormon part was??.... What exactly. I'd love to fact check what you have in response to this video rather than just some bullshit attack.

@losttribe3001

5 жыл бұрын

Glen M. Danielsen Is it safe to assume that truth is very important to you? An honest question...

@IIIJT

5 жыл бұрын

Glen I would love to see some evidence to your claim.