Nails, Seelie, and primordial constructs have the same blue in their design, so I think it's pretty possible that CNs contain seelie like desert technology jinni.

Sumeru also seems to be the nation who had the most shared history with Khaenria, which at the time by the people of king Deshret was called the Dahri Empire, and they were on very friendly terms. It'd make sense for the founder/leader of such a nation to be friends with the Lord of flowers, you know, a seelie, if the leader was such a seelie themselves, or at least related in some way to them. Another theory I have is that instead of the lord of khaenriah being a divine being themselves, they are mortal, but was married/in love with a seelie/god. Which we know how that ends (seelies are said to lose all power or end up straight up killed if they fall in love with a mortal). It is very tinfoild-hat-y of me, but what if the founder of khaenriah was the cause for the split of heaven, responsible for "corrupting" one of the high ranking goddesses (seelie? moon sisters?), and that's why the seelies get exterminated and khaenrians have to flee under the ground? The survivors and their descendants are outraged at this event and that's why they start to develope under no god, knowing how fickle divine beings are. Eventually their ways being found heretic by Celestia and condemning them, so the cataclysm happens. Maybe the second throne inspires the seelies to pursue their mmortal lovers or something? Or whispers into the ears of the mortals to make them bold enough to follow their hearts and chase divinity? It is just a theory tho, a very crazy one.

The whole thing about guarding true names made me think of the Traveler. Everyone except the abyss sibling calls them ‘Traveler’ or the name you input. No one calls them Lumine or Aether. Maybe the reason no one uses their names is because the power someone could hold over them. This might be nothing but it’s always bothered me how no one in Teyvat calls the travelers by their canon names except for their sibling. So maybe this is just copium 😭

@roozeveltfox

Жыл бұрын

wait a min. I had totally forgotten that the siblings use their canon names in WWBR. 😳 wait so.... what if the true names had to do something with the abyss sibling being 'summoned' to Khaenri'ah? That is... definitely a thing in a lot of mythologies/religions/folklore/TV tropes. tinfoil part: maybe even has something to do with why the sibling was only briefly recorded in Irminsul??? that part I can't give an explanation for (yet) but this is juicy thonking 🤔

Yo Rooze! This particular topic caught my interest, about the Halberds being both a material for weaponry but also a living being. It makes me wanna bring attention back to the 3.2 Archon Quest, moreso the ending at the priest's tomb the gang settled into. The whole set up of a tree holding high concentrations of elemental energy there might've been no coincidence. For in the memories of Priest Kasala, alongside of his story, in that image, we quite literally see his deceased body transform into a white tree. (I want to say a part of the Irminsul tree judging by the color). Could this be one of the missing links? Through the use of technology, tree and energy, they were able to use the tech as a means of openly watching the guy's memories once again. So what if this could be one of the connectors that we're looking for? It makes me look back towards the old artifact stories of tree crowns used by ancient priest, and how they always advanced to some deep place for reasons I believe we don't entirely know, not just the act of seeking wisdom. ' They say that, The line of chief priests have always seen this same sight as their days draw to an end: A mountain of crowns in a secret place, beneath a withered tree- -each one hiding a lifetime of secrets kept. Each retiring chief priest offers up their crown of flawless white branches to this world. Every mighty and ancient city, and every austere place of sacrifice must one day return to profundity in the earth. ' -Tiara of Frost Just wanted to add some food for thought on this matter. Hope you can also make use of it.

@roozeveltfox

Жыл бұрын

Weirdly, I've watched that cutscene like 10394952847 times at this point, but for some reason I have not thought about the white/silver branches during that specific scene???? so TY for pointing that out! But yeah, it seems (at least superficially) like imagery for returning to the leylines... BUT omgsh such an interesting point about using tech to view the memories. As usual, you have given my brain SO MUCH to process and munch on...!! especially since I've been thinking about doing a deep dive into those 2-pc sets. Each time Ive read them (like every 3-4 months) they seem to have new meaning. I feel like we're ever closer to the truth!

Ok, I've got a crazy theory, so Columbina seems like she has connections to seelies, and fishel's music has fatui motifs, and fishel, like princess fishel has connections with the 4 shades, sooo what is Colombina is one of the 4 shades. Idk, just an idea I wanted to throw out there.

@roozeveltfox

Жыл бұрын

i don't have enough brain power to even speculate on columbina but gooodness i am so down with this idea

At certain angles from afar you can distinguish the nail in the center of the tornado or wind thingy. It glows the same blue light from the other nails! Its also floating so I bet KD managed to at least piece it together and did what we did in dragonspine. My best guess. 🤔

@kokuj1n

Жыл бұрын

But the problem is there's leyline overgrowth in the area. So a nail couldn't be and shouldn't be there.

@saberkun4506

Жыл бұрын

@@kokuj1n depends why the nail was dropped, since this one was for the same purpose in Sal Vindagnyr to stop the spread of the abyssal corruption, this case I bet Gurabads demise, from spreading. Later KD removed it to study it, freeze the eterneal oasis in stasis and the other measures he took, like his life and what not. Hope this helps

@kokuj1n

Жыл бұрын

@@saberkun4506 yeah nah this doesn't help me at all cuz it's not consistent if its a nail and we did not see anything what happened to it? We only have theories that is floating around and if it has a nail I shouldn't be able to farm gold and blue leylines, unlike dragonspine, chasm, and tsurumi (theres no seen nail cuz it was underground according to notes) where there's no leyline cuz it was being disturbed by an obvious nail.

@saberkun4506

Жыл бұрын

@@kokuj1n indeed indeed. Theories for now, but it's safe to say that there's definitely something floating in the center of the wind storm tornado, coincidentally located right above the eternal oasis. Hopefully in the next updates before 4.0 this is revealed!

I’m so happy I found your page. Tinfoil hat theories are what keeps me going!!! The connections are just great, love the thought process. Soooo underrated 🎉

Reject divinity, return to monke xD

Your "spiritstone" theory is how I've always interpreted the Divine Halberds; the intact Halberd is a "divine envoy:" a Seelie, Shade, or Celestial spirit; while the Ominous Sword, the Nail, is forged from its fragments.

tin foil hat is glued to my hair already. Love your videos as always and I love the paintings you made!! It makes it so much easier to visualize and you remember the visuals because they are silly(seelie). about halberd shananigans: there’s a daily commission called operation halberd breaker in sumeru. It involves defeating eremites or something. It gets weirder when you realize there’s an eremite called: “ravenbeak halberdier” (even depicted with same polearm seen in the book). But then it gets even more mind boggling when you read the description: - “These warriors use Ravenbeak Halberds in battle. **It is said that ascetics who served the deity of the desert would carry these halberds as symbols of their office. These weapons once had a true name, but it has long been lost to the desert sands.** I wonder if Halberds come from the desert? if so why call them halberds in a region that’s inspired by ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia. also they had a “TRUE NAME”?? about irmin-sul a current crack theory I have is that “Irmin”sul is called irminsul because irmin is stuffed inside the tree👀 It seems random but if you look at datamined stuff, in chapters of Pale princess and the six Pygmies youll read that the “light prince” was stuffed into a tree. (Which might also be an Osiris reference??) - but that’s just very very naku I dunno anymore, gotta go back to monkee

If Irmin created Irminsul he HAS to be a shade. As of now we don’t know much about the creation of that damn tree do we?

@roozeveltfox

Жыл бұрын

this idea has me QUAKING

Subscribed for Lebowski reference

What if kaeya albrech is just the sumeru version of his first name and an mondstadtianized of his last name ?

true names reminds me of the anime, case study of vanitas

And I also want to mention, protagonist also uses the nickname (we give it in the beginning of the game), and their sibling calls them by true name. So... Why protagonist uses nickname then?

Maybe certain seelies are special and have strong connections to divine nails, since we know there are some seelies that are more powerful and we’re able to resist the curse put on them

What if irminsoul is the devine helbered and the king was named after the tree

Maybe the nails are like broken pieces of swords from celestial?

Ok listen to me- Alberich is the same name as Oberon just in a different language. Oberon is most known for being the fairy king in “A Midsummer Night's Dream” A primary source of the argument between Oberon and Titania is the Indian boy. While Oberon criticizes Titania for stealing the child from the Indian king, Titania's reasons for keeping the child are more personal. An Indian boy? Is there anyone we know that has Indian origins?(Kaeya)(he’s called the Indian boy cause Oberon says his father is the king of India) The reason Titania wants to keep the Indian boy is due to his mother being a close follower and friend of hers but she died in childbirth and Titania promised to raise him. Another thing is that Paul A. Olson says it wasn’t magic flower juice that made her fall in love with bottom, no, it was Circe![Circes daughter in some stories is Hecate, the triple moon goddess] Another thing is that Titania and Oberon were rulers of the seelie court…

@roozeveltfox

Жыл бұрын

oh my GOSH I know I must have known this at some point, but it's amazing how 1-2 years worth of lore can shift perspective. Like, off the top of my head I don't recall any Shakespeare references in game, but more recently I've been thinking about the Prinzessin der Verurteilung / Flowers for Princess Fischl may relate to the story of Khaenri'ah.... and ofc there's Sommernachtgarten and the Midsummer Courtyard. INTERESTING 👁👄👁 I may have to go give it another read! Rulers of the Seelie Court too, huh.... :o

@gayfish9238

Жыл бұрын

@@roozeveltfox :DD

gets my tinfoil hat ready

using jinn to make weapons is Evangelion reference

Seelie are pretty, Kaeya is pretty. Kaeya is a seelie. Also a nation can have gods, I think what Dain meant is that ppl didn't worship any gods. So if there were gods but they weren't worshiped than it still was a godless nation.

I find your theories quite interesting especially about the names if this is true then that means that the Archons demon names aren’t their real names it’s possible that their real names are angel names

Anyone heared about a divine sowred from haven ? Kaeya realy shoud interduce his grandfather to us

I know in multiple videos you bring up the 9 realms, regarding to Irmin. What if he was the First Envoy that connected the 9 Nations. 9 Nations? The Seven Nations of Teyvat, elemental Archons that most likely once were represented by the 7 Sovereigns, plus a connection to an Abyss connection of some sort, with the last being the Heavens who was either represented by the Seelies or Celestia? Then perhaps this was shattered when a betrayal traspired or the Second Who Came.

@roozeveltfox

11 ай бұрын

👀

This is entirely unrelated to this video- but I just had an idea, kinda regarding your previous video on the red moons. Genshin Impact itself was largely inspired by the legend of Zelda, Breath of the Wild, correct? Whilst you could just argue that nothing is similar (lore-wise) between them at all because they’re different franchises entirely… There are some striking similarities that I just feel like pointing out. Such as the red moons. During Legend of Zelda BOTW gameplay, the “blood moon” rises sometimes. Monsters (Bokoblins- the Genshin equivalent to Hilichurls- and other similar monsters), as far as I know, get affected by the odd particles that the blood moon creates. And they become stronger (I think? Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.) That is already one similarity between the games stories. Blood moons/red moons bring carnage- and, the blood moon in BOTW is sent by Ganon (is that his name? I’m talking about the main enemy in Legend of Zelda) who is a powerful entity, comparable to Celestia and Abyss- with the fact that you can call all of these omnipotent, and all evil (not sure if Celestia *is* evil tho.) In this way, you could also compare Zelda’s role with the abyss sibling’s role. Link is travelling to save Zelda, whilst Genshin MC is travelling to find their sister (and the unknown God.) Not only that, but Link travels around to multiple different nations, and saves them from the divine beasts whilst also purifying them and unlocking old memories. This is vastly similar to how the Genshin MC travels around to different nations, and helps get rid of the major threats in them- maybe, allowing MC to have the nation’s support in the future- for when a war occurs against the Abyss, or Celestia. Just hear me out. A lot of plot points are REALLY similar between these two games. The only other main plot point that BOTW has that Genshin does not, is Link unlocking old memories with Zelda. Genshin doesn’t have that- yet. But it is clear our Genshin MC has indeed forgotten some things about their past- hinted very obviously by Venti’s voiceline, saying that they had once travelled together before, but that MC does not remember. The other thing about these games to point out is the fact that BOTW serves as a way of tying every single Legend of Zelda timeline together, in order to reach endgame to stop the cycle of these timelines, and Ganon’s inevitable reincarnations. Maybe that’s similar to what Genshin is trying to achieve, too? Maybe our MC is paving the way for *something* to stop repeating itself. And maybe that *something* is to do with the cataclysms- or maybe it’s something else entirely? Maybe it’s the abyssal corruption? Also, the legend of Zelda has someone in it called “Hylia”, and many people pray to this Goddess, asking for guidance. You know who’s a guide in Genshin? Paimon… And Hylia is a key point in defeating Ganon in the Legend of Zelda- and is also connected to Zelda herself. Hm. All of that aside, I find it kinda shocking that I’ve never really seen anybody try to make any parallels between these games, especially when the plots of them seem so similar. Again, they may be different franchises, but… it’s still worth looking at, in my opinion. Anyways, thank you again for the fantastic video!! Can’t wait for 3.5- apparently the dainsleif quest will feature Kaeya, so that’s gonna be amazing for us lore enthusiasts xD (unless they end up, like, not interacting whatsoever and Kaeya’s just there at the start. Hoyo *would* do that, just to laugh at us…) Keep up with the SSS tier content- PS, I absolutely love those goofy drawings you do LMAO, they make the video even more entertaining, and your personality just seems so fun too!!! (IMO, much better than other theory channels that just have a really mundane voice half of the time, making those videos really hard not to zone out to.) Have a lovely day!! 💖✨

@roozeveltfox

Жыл бұрын

Confession: I've never actually played BOTW oop! But I just looked up that blood moon, and wow, that's terrifying :'D I wouldn't be surprised if they took some beats from it (esp since they do seem to cite other media like Neon Genesis as inspiration)... but when you break down the plot like that, wowee. The red moon/cycles is very in line with what I was thinking with the Gurabad video, but the other stuff is really neat!! "BOTW serves as a way of tying every single Legend of Zelda timeline together, in order to reach endgame to stop the cycle of these timelines, and Ganon’s inevitable reincarnations": whoa, I was aware LoZ had a crazy complex timeline, but also didn't know this about BOTW. maybe one day I'll finally get around to playing BOTW (and a bunch of others I've missed out on...) I don't look at / try to avoid any spoilers so I can have the ~ freshest ~ reaction to new patches 🙈but it's basically guaranteed I'll have a meltdown when we finally get kaeya content 😭 And thank you SO much! I'm really glad you enjoy it!! I love making the goofy assets and I do just like to have fun with this!!! 🤩✨

About true names and power that they gave.. it's why traveler use something else

I'm not totally on board with the theory, just from a lack of evidence that isn't wrapped up in parables (though, of course, we now know how important stories are for preserving information without Irminsul tampering wiping it out completely), but the Odin comparisons with King Irmin are especially interesting to me. If he is a divine or otherwise non-human (or even some sort of transcended human) being, I don't think that discounts Khaenri'ah from being a "godless nation," not just because he might not have ruled like a traditional god, requiring worship and such, but because his people might not even have known. In Norse mythology, Odin would often disguise himself as a mortal wanderer to test humans' kindness - those who received him with warmth and hospitality would be rewarded, and those who rebuked him would be punished. Since we're already stretching a bit with these theories, I don't think it's impossible for Irmin to have hidden his true nature from his subjects while still aligning himself with their goals. It wouldn't the first time a deity has rebelled against the Heavenly Principles, after all. And what's more, unlike the deities in many other pantheons, Norse gods could die of wounds and poison, or even age if they didn't eat the goddess Idunn's golden apples of youth (Alice is looking even more sus now). This aligns much more with how Genshin presents archons than the true immortality of other deities: Rukkhadevata expended so much energy that she basically reset her entire being, Makoto and Egeria were killed in the Cataclysm, and even Havria, a weaker god with further dwindling power, was killed by her own human followers.

Hi rooze! Really love your videos, but isnt the “Legend of the Halberd” a fictional story in the Genshin universe, not a true historical doc like “before sun and moon”. It is possible it foreshadows some concepts or events, but i dont think there is an actual Axis Mundi in lore

@roozeveltfox

Жыл бұрын

Thank youuu! Yes, it is fiction in Genshin, which in a previous video I tie in with Nahida using a fable to subvert Irminsul wipes. 'Axis Mundi' to my knowledge is only mentioned in Shattered Halberd, yes, but given the irl connections to being the connection between realms and/or the world tree, I can't help but speculate if there's a hidden importance to that! but true, it's purely speculation

Yay vudio from you agin

Irmin is the 5 star we all need

I thoguht seelies were only women… it’s a little weird and mysoginistic how there’s all these female-only species that are created specifically to serve the male-coded adventurers and to be forbidden from falling in love with them. Where the lesbian seelies at

@TheVermilliaFamily

Жыл бұрын

Seelies have never been attached to a single gender, as far as available lore goes. Falling in love with "man", is short for human, and a common way of inferencing mankind. So there could totally be "lesbian" seelies, if there are seelies that call themselves female.

@attakalinda4287

10 ай бұрын

There's no confirmation about seelies being female, but we now have a female-only race which is the Melusine. Edit: I forgot that we also use 'she' to refer to all oceanids

Too fast is no good

@roozeveltfox

Жыл бұрын

hi! do you think the pacing is too fast? I've thought that some quicker edits are more successful, but I also don't want people to get TOO lost. I'm happy to incorporate feedback!

Are not all Seelie female though?

@L16htW4rr10r

Жыл бұрын

I think it only said thet they were angels, not all female. I could miss it tho

Me watching this knowing damn well hoyo gonna choose the most boring route for the story 🤠