The King Of Fake Sports Autographs | Cliff Panezich
After multiple law enforcement agencies launched an investigation called "Operation Stolen Base", Cliff Panezich is arrested and sentenced to several years in prison for selling hundreds of thousands of dollars of fake sports memorabilia. Listen to Cliff's story of how he goes from professional baseball player to the Gambling Addicted Ring Leader of Operation Stolen Base. Can Cliff turn his life around and come out on the other side?
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Excellent interviewer. Ian ask questions and then gets out of the way.
Cmon y'all we need to get this dude's subs up BIG TIME!! This guy is without a doubt my favorite prison content creator.. super in depth and diverse stories and I love his interview style,he really knows the right questions and when to ask them. Very good at letting the guest paint the picture of they story👍👍💯
@ianbickCT
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words!! We are getting there 🙏
@ELenk40
Жыл бұрын
Facts!!
@stevenbrown5545
Жыл бұрын
Def dope to watch. Check out. J Williams also.
@swamitchell3046
Жыл бұрын
No doubt Ian..u get mad respect in my book cuz u keep it 💯 and aren't afraid to tell the truth about ur incarceration.. big up bro cuz alota these KZreadrs SWEAR no one test them and really portray that whole "I was the baddest dude on the block" "ain't nothing move unless I say so"...half these kids were straight jizzles,x'd out gang members (which mean u AIN'T SHIT no more)..I ain't no sucker u got Adam 22-straight sex offender! Htf this clown even still have a platform? Dude in his 30s tryna fuck with 16 ur old girls.. lemme guess-she lied about her age🤣! Point is-im fuckin sick of the prison genre being watered down by these straight punks,mfs on here w pages of paperwork confirmed snitch shit ..man ain't noone care about ur chest beating I wanna hear real mfs talk about real experiences. I'm fortunate..I ain't never have to do anything more serious than the few county bids I caught. And it's popin off in there too but I've never experienced state time or feddys so I wanna hear what the homies go through on some real shit. I couldn't care less about mfs claiming they were something special in prison..tell me the story bro. Bottom line-ima pick that fuck shit up first 1/4 & then I'm done with u & it's fuckin solid when u come across someone MAN enough to give they experience in a completely honest manner. Idgaf if u got took up thru there-if that's what happened kick it to me 💯 bro, ain't no shame & I know I can learn something from an honest man. I pretty much cancelled my sub to every prison channel & fuck w the few real ones..Ian,JD,Chad,oh and this funny af ex GD named Joe T Baker 3rd. Super good story teller!! Anyway that's just how I feel about the shit u ain't gotta try n prove me wrong or talk ya shit, it's my opinion and who gaf I just wanna make sure this kid get his props for how solid his honesty be
@stevejames4380
Жыл бұрын
Love Ian bick
Cliff is that dude!!! Love you both!!!
@Simpleguy2313
Жыл бұрын
WOOT WOOT JD IS THE MAN ...
@ianbickCT
Жыл бұрын
🐐
subbed!! getting ready to binge the back catalog and impatiently wait for all new episodes lol!! God bless you brother, love what you're doing and the unique style you bring to the table, you're a breath of fresh air for "prison youtube"!!
Top tier as always Ian, love to see you growing!
@ianbickCT
Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated🙏
Another solid episode. I like how you start interviews at the beginning, first impressions shape a story. Keep it up
@ianbickCT
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Agreed 🙏
Another great interview Ian ! Keep them coming in
@ianbickCT
Жыл бұрын
Thank you man🙏🙏
Great interview as always ❤
Another Great episode. Have been following cliff since he got on tiktok. Dudes got a good head on his shoulders and you can tell he is genuine. Thanks for another good chapter Ian. Keep up the good work. Can’t wait for some CO interviews !!
@CliffPanezich
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support
@ianbickCT
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Coming soon!!
I love ur channel! It’s obvious that u put in a lot of work getting such a variety of guests, I wish u continued n growing success.
I wonder how many people got his autographs in their man caves, trophy rooms, walls etc..... strange thinking most will probably never know
The realest thing I heard was him saying there county corrupt. Mahoning county is a damn joke!!!
Great interview 👍
I respect that he's honest about his gambling and that he still struggles with it ..I am also a degen gambler ..I've also had other addictions such as booze painkillers I.v ..gambling was by far and still is the worst addiction to kick ..Goodluck boys and thanks for sharing stories with us
This one really hit home with me. Being a sports gambler is how I fueled my addiction for a while until I hit rock bottom. This was an awesome interview Ian and proof again that anyone can change!! I love how Cliff said that it was easy to commit his crime again but knowing he doesn't want to do it and why he's not doing it is a huge eye opener.
@ianbickCT
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in Lizzy!!
@lizzygrace0926
Жыл бұрын
@@ianbickCT i haven't missed an episode yet! Looking forward for more to come!
U did the right thing in ur heart w your mom ...respect
"peace of mind is worth then any amount of money" 👏 Bravo
@trustmesonimyourfather9097
9 ай бұрын
YEAH OK LET ME KNOW HOW MUCH PEACE OF MIND YOU HAVE WHEN YOURE BROKE AND HAVE RESPONSILITIES,.
@alanmeyers3957
3 ай бұрын
@@trustmesonimyourfather9097work harder.
Thanks Ian, for bringing this and other interesting stories to light. I was in the courtroom for what I believe was pretrial. The Canfield detective was on the stand and gave an account of Cliff buying baseballs at Walmart, proceeding home and forging signatures. When asked about the evidence and victims, he replied he had none. I remember seeing the court recorder looking up and over at him in amazement. No evidence or victims, hmm. The other encounter I had was with the prosecutor at the courthouse in Youngstown. I saw as they brought in Cliffs mom, chained hands to legs, after they arrested her for a bogus probation violation. I confronted the prosecutor about holding Cliff without evidence. His reply to me was, "I don't need evidence". Once Cliff signed the plea, his mom was released. While he was guilty of forgery, he was not guilty of what he was charged with. What Cliff failed to mention was the second time they locked him up in Youngstown, his bail was set at $500,000!
I started watching his interviews and now imo he is hands down the best on KZread.
Violated her probation because he *THOUGHT* she was gonna lie on the stand?!? Unbelievable. I know probation is extremely strict but at that point, that's just being the thought police! That's so messed up, that probation officer should be in prison because that has to be a violation of her civil rights.This is America, we're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty in a court of law! Even on probation, they still need some type of evidence like a failed drug test or texts where you admit to doing something wrong to violate somebody. Without that presumption of innocence, any probation officer who just doesn't like somebody could say, "I think you're going to go use drugs tomorrow or do something else that violates your probation so I'm locking you up..." That's not how it works for that exact reason! Makes me so mad that government employees get away with stuff like that and there's zero repercussions for what is essentially false imprisonment. I'm not a lawyer so that might be the wrong term but whatever, the point is that must have been a serious violation of her rights smh...
@CliffPanezich
Жыл бұрын
The prosecutor made the PO file the violation. Look him up…Martin Desmond. Real stand up DA he was
@Blunt_Man
Жыл бұрын
@@CliffPanezich Wow, lot of accusations of misconduct and lawsuits coming up. Looking like that entire city is filled with government employees accused of shady behavior
@CliffPanezich
Жыл бұрын
@@Blunt_Man nah probably not…they cover up for each other on the back end. The DA was fired for misconduct. They sued the office, claiming he was a whistleblower on their corruption, and then paid him $550k to shut up and go away…even though he was guilty of the same corruption 🤦♂️
This is gonna be good
I could relate a lot. Thanks Cliff and Ian
Great interview Ian! I actually got ripped off by this guy lol. I'm glad to see his turned his life around!
Also wow man wild story I wanna see the documentary. And you told the story very well💪💪
Subbed... that's my boy "Big Cliff" he's a hell of a ball prayer too boy💪💪💪🙏🙏🙏
Nothing wrong with ebay and Amazon. Finding and listing your own legitimate products. Thats my second job and i wouldn't survive without it
I wonder how many of his fakes are out there and how many of em get passed off/sold as authentic?? 100k, 250k, 1M?? U know its a big number if he did it every single day for that many years
This dude has a massive lawsuit here!!! Slam dunk! Sue the shit out of them!!
@KenKaniffFromConnecticut
Жыл бұрын
Huh?
@andrewb3882
Жыл бұрын
On what grounds?
Why do something stupid like stealing baseballs, when your literally getting paid for them. Not very smart and you know it’s gonna lead back.
Good episode
Keep um coming Ian
Even Ian doubts his hustle LOL
@CliffPanezich
Жыл бұрын
Nice PFP 👍
@bbb12973
Жыл бұрын
@@CliffPanezich Gilligan
This dude reminds of a couple my cousins who both went to prison eventually too
Damn bro why is this man dry snitching on the whole world
@CliffPanezich
Жыл бұрын
How’s that exactly 🤔
How many people are gonna go start up based on him saying how easy it would be to get right back into it? Lol
10 grand would change tf outta my life right now lolol
@andrewb3882
Жыл бұрын
Would you be able to quit your job and retire though? Probably not unless you live in a country where the currency is extremely weak
Doesn't matter what was faking. What was real. It's like saying I was just a little bit pregnant
Would be awesome to see lockdown 23and1 on here soon.
Florida state made so much money for ppl back in the day most bookies would take those games off of what you could bet on bc they was covering crazy spreads
@19:06 So, he had us believing he never did any kind of drugs ever, yet he spills the beans on “bottle service”. **News FLASH** Alcohol is a DRUG ✌🏻
@travisreed4070
Жыл бұрын
Oh good lord
@GrifFungin
Жыл бұрын
@@travisreed4070 Why is your reaction to my comment “oh good Lord”? My point is that Alcohol is just as addictive and mind altering as any so called “drug” and just because it’s “legal”, people don’t consider it harmful. I am by no means against alcohol use, but for this guy to believe he is now and always has been a non-drug user is a fallacy of thought. Alcohol use/abuse likely played a huge part in his poor decision making.
@travisreed4070
Жыл бұрын
@GrifFungin because you sound silly...he clearly had no issues with that...just because ur a ragging drunk doesn't mean everyone is..for some it's like drinking a coke on the weekends
@GrifFungin
Жыл бұрын
@@travisreed4070 So, you determined I’m a “raging drunk” based on my comment. People like you are the problem with the world today. ✌🏻
I remember cashing on titans that game too lol. So incredibly sweaty
i think it would be cool to have joe from after prison show on the podcast, he was in a way one of the OG prison tubers
The true kings are the ones who are so good the fakes are still getting sold as real to this day unfortunately. It's a real shame
Hey Marty , how you ? 😂😂😂
@CliffPanezich
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I now know where my fake Marshawn Lynch autograph jersey came from. Looking back I kind of wondered why the 20 auto jersey listings had the same auto picture
Nice that he ripped off thousands of people on eBay and not only is allowed to participate in ecommerce AT ALL, but does not apparently have any restitution to pay back and is making money hand over fist. Nice that you can rip off kids and parents and collectors and then sit there and brag about how you're doing great and could easily do it again tomorrow.
@ImGoingSupersonic
2 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. And when they are put into this kind of podcast arena, everyone loves these kind of guys.
@brianh2941
15 күн бұрын
Yep and what you think eBay are doing x1000000
Saw your clips through tiktok 2 days ago I’ve watched every podcast keep it up
@ianbickCT
Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! Thanks for watching!
I live in Youngstown it’s a hard up bringing a lot poverty and crime here
Great interview. You earned a sub
@ianbickCT
Жыл бұрын
Thank you🙏 welcome!
Didn't do cigarettes lol
His poor mom, granted she was doing it as well, but still.. post her husband then her kid and living in Vegas all alone
Everyone messes up when they bring the crackheads in on the operation.
Gambling sports is so gd fun. Im glad im not rich cuz i know i would blow it all on sports gambling. Shite is addicting .100%
I feel bad for people that were taken by clowns like this. But it's also a lesson. Just enjoy the hobby
@adammonahan687
Жыл бұрын
This guy just like all criminals, and same goes for the time I did deserved what they had coming to them but this guy particularly. He hurt so many kids with his fake shit. So many kids out there spending their savings or receiving presents thinking its real. And that's shitty. Never victimize kids
Bro imagine someone just watched all these videos perfected their techniques as to where they got caught, and just started running a multi business criminal empire😂. I mean they basically tell you how to.
I fake a deep voice so others think I'm more of a man
Weird that he lived in his parents bedroom at 24 🤣
@travisreed4070
Жыл бұрын
Lol.. he did word that a little odd😂 but we got it
Here he is I didn't drink or party and freely admitting he's drank and raged typical addict behaviour (denial)
@Storm330h
2 ай бұрын
Must’ve missed the part that he didn’t smoke cigarettes, weed, or do a drug that gets you high STILL to this day. May want go back and rewatch since he didn’t say anything about not drinking… but denial tho… you’re right.
If this is all true and he has recordings and proof of what the da did and said to his mom then i would 100 get a lawyer and sue the ex da and the gov
@johnwilliamson8367
5 ай бұрын
He could sue the government but the ex da would be off limits that is what the meaning of qualified immunity is. He can go after the entities but not individuals individually.
He could to DA program. It works if you surrender to the program. It's like any other 12 step program. You just have to be committed to it and after going to prison as well as your mom. I'd be so involved with gamblers anonymous it would make your head spin. It doesn't sound like you surrendered after all you've been through. This is coming from someone that's 31 years sober so I can tell you firsthand about addiction.. also your whiteness is very important to you. You mentioned a few times in your interview. 🤷🏽♂️.
I have a really interesting story about when I went to prison for 3 Domestic violence charges, And Id love to speak to you about it, I'm from Seattle WA 24 years old Asian
Selling in this field myself with cards to me this dudes part of the problem but hey people are dumb enough to buy someone else’s signature on a basketball from Walmart just the same way they are with cards, except cards are wayyyy more of a harder thing to fake nowadays and other products even with all the grading services that have exploded especially say sgc for sports cards.
Wow when I wad bor till I was ten my parents taught at mercyhurst College in erie pa till I was 10 I used to run around the campus as a child like I owned it
Bruh I want my money back for that Aaron Rodgers jersey
@pjmazar4533
7 ай бұрын
That might not be a forgery. Hang on to it. Remember, they claimed everything fake because they couldn't tell what was and what wasn't. I'll bet if you asked Aaron if he signed the jersey, he might not even be able to verify it. 🤔
Man, i feel what hes saying at 51:45, but also, thats the underlying way that every system ever invented works. Always, in anything, you can expect someone, somewhere down the line, to take it personally. And that is when fucked up things happen. By the way Im the guy that takes it personally lol
Let's go IAn Bic, hey bro, u need to at least hear me out 42k subs no1 has head my story
My guy youtube recommend me your channel. I watch jay lets live life and jumpsuit and snd watched the interviews you had of them. But this one my boy is top notch. Spend the $20 and market this video it was really good
My Nephew looks just like this guy.
This dude wants to sound like he’s some baller gambler but he was staying at the golden nugget?!? 😂 that one detail made me not believe most of this story lol
@pjmazar4533
7 ай бұрын
What's the deal on the Nugget? It's in the heart of downtown Vegas along with the Freemont, the Four Queens and what I believe was Binion's Horseshoe, now just Binion's.
LETS GOOOO
LETTTTTTTTSSSSSSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This guy graduated from college and can't do basic math to figure out his age at a certain time in his life. I wonder what his socks smell like.
@pjmazar4533
7 ай бұрын
You should try that on some of your friends and see what you get. Do it in a normal conversation without warning. You might be surprised. And age has a lot to do with it too. I couldn't tell you how old I was when I started to work for Sears, for example.
Where does he live that a shopping cart is a buggie?
Crazy how he didn't even do drugs. But drugs were the downfall of the whole thing. Don't do drugs kids. Especially opiates
My brother went to Martin Methodist ! RIP❤❤
Victimless crime. You have to be dumb to spend money on signed baseballs. Super interesting interview. Hes not a violent dangerous criminal that belongs in prison. Deserved only probation
I agree the system is corrupt and it needs to be fixed. That said, he screwed over a lot of people cause of greed. How do you make it up to the people you screwed over?
DAMN
This dude got done dirty omfgggg EDIT: everything about selling the commissary in state prison is true I had a boyfriend who was locked up a couple times & he told me all about it, came in clutch bc when he did his last bid I was caught out and unfortunately barely ever had money to put on his books so he got it himself
@trustmesonimyourfather9097
9 ай бұрын
YOU CANT VOUCH FOR THE TRUTH OF ANYTHING IN JAIL/PRISON UNLESS YOUVE BEEN THERE AND EXPERIENCED IT YOURSELF.
Damn he snitched Adam out
I hope that pos Proscuter gets arrested for what he did to his mom😊
That’s actually a pretty smart scam lol
Only 13:00 into the video, but ol boy sounds like a RAT.. or is it just me??
So he never played pro 🤔
@travisreed4070
Жыл бұрын
So ur not very familiar of how it works are you...
First five minutes of the interview he claims he never used drugs, half way thru fabricating his story he talks about spending on bottle service at the clubs. You all have to remember these people are prison minded fabricators. Mostly lying.
@CliffPanezich
Жыл бұрын
🤔🤔🤔🤔 curious as to how drinking in a club correlates to not using drugs.
@bbb12973
Жыл бұрын
@@CliffPanezich alcohol is a drug. One of the most powerful ones available. You made it seem like gambling was one of your only issues. You clearly caught yourself up in your own lie.
@CliffPanezich
Жыл бұрын
@@bbb12973 you’d be hard pressed to get the majority of society to agree with you. Do you drink coffee? I guess you’re a drug addict too, if you want to use that thinking. Good take 👍
@OneShot_G
Жыл бұрын
@@bbb12973 it's not that deep get a life
@bbb12973
Жыл бұрын
@Andrew Decker of course it is. If you gon act like a Gilligan you gon get slayed like one
Psych lick all
I can relate to this guy a lot. In 2003-05 I had a illegal business on eBay. We probably sold $750k of merchandise and we were lucky enough to walk away unscathed. We got extremely lucky.
nice ...as always
@ianbickCT
Жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
Yea that’s not something to brag about he seems like a real Stand up guy… when u take advantage of innocent ppl You’re a pos
Make a movie on this guy
@pjmazar4533
7 ай бұрын
I believe it's in the works.