Thank you, gentlemen for this interesting discussion. Fr. Murr was asked by John Henry Westen what we can do besides pray regarding the crisis in the Church. Fr. Murr replied "Nothing. It will take direct divine intervention to resolve the crisis." If he is right, we can only wonder how much worse the crisis will get before God intervenes.

@RestoreJustice675

10 ай бұрын

Per I believe a Garabandal message, once the pope goes to Moscow, it was said (per private revelation) that war will break out in Europe, and then God will intervene. Prior to the coming of the Antichrist. This much we know, That every Jot and Tittle of the word of God will be fulfilled. Thus the Antichrist will per revelation 13 : 7 "The beast was allowed to wage war against God's people and conquer them. It was likewise granted authority over every race and people, language and nation".

@patriciamathews5975

10 ай бұрын

Pray AND offer reparation. Your soul, a vehicle of Divine Grace, by righteous acts, loving kindness, acts of mercy, can magnify The Redeemer's salvation & open doors for others to desire Heaven's Reparation for their lives, even in these evil days. (Be contagious, don't mask it, share Christ's love.) ❣️

@joebollig2689

10 ай бұрын

Don’t give money? Or cut way back? Tell pastors and other clerics what you think? Passive resistance and non-cooperation?

@vonhalberstadt3590

10 ай бұрын

I differ. We need to publicize the faith and confront evils like Abortion. The average person is clueless or deliberately looking the other way. It's our responsiblity to inform everyone. Orémus Y'all.

@vonhalberstadt3590

10 ай бұрын

Active resistance. "We will not comply!"

I think there's an aspect of apostacy that's obvious and easily verifiable. Last week, in our good and faithful pastor's homily, he affirmed the obligation of Sundsy mass attendance, but he pointed out that only ONE THIRD of the parish actually shows up for Sunday mass.

Thank you for this great discussion. Deep dive concepts. I Love it! Yes, we did experience a metaphysical downgrade with the shut down of thousands of Masses throughout the World 3 years ago. The graces bestowed were curtailed which allowed for the rise & possible release of much greater evil into the world. I am amazed at "Babylon's" quick disintegration today. You can also go back 60 years & catalogue each step away from the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Are these forerunner events for the Greatest Apostacy leading to Antichrist? I say yes. It's physically manifesting with greater apostasy. Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us. 🙏✝️🙏

@patriciamathews5975

10 ай бұрын

@@MW-he4cp No doubt there are sacrilegious Masses & Communions, but, if I understand the teachings on this, this refects more into the individual souls of those that do the sacrilegious act than into the world of the spirit & the reparation of the grace the Mass can bring into the World. Not all priests are holy, yet, because of the Divine Grace ordained by Our Lord, His Sacrifice brings this grace, renewed again, for our benefit & that of the Holy Church throughout the world. There is a point of no return, it seems. Sodom could not contain 10 righteous men due to the advancing evil. Lord have mercy, Christ have mercy. 🙏

@sylvia54lobo76

10 ай бұрын

Patricia..... Wow!!!! Great!!!!! Insightful......

@patriciamathews5975

10 ай бұрын

​​@@sylvia54lobo76Joshua Charles is amazing in his explanation of this. Michael Hichborn describes people having received Communion of the body, blood, soul & Divinity of our Lord, Jesus as human Tabernacles. Think of so many hundreds of thousands of individuals going out into the World with Christ's presence within. This should have an impact throughout the world. What I learned from this & the closing of the Churches because of a little virus is that we cannot take this grace for granted. We should get to Mass as often as possible. We can become a vehicle of Grace for ourselves & for those we can interact with & love. 🙏

Great show. From Ireland ☘️

The reason that Catholics are attacking each other is because we don't have a shepherd.

@patriciamathews5975

10 ай бұрын

And a lot of Catholics need to get to Confession. 🙏

Good job, Mr. Charles.

There is a tribulation coming upon the earth. A tribulation as never has been since the foundation of the world. As Believers in Christ we are called to be holy (without which no one will see God) We must live individually in a state of grace and thus help others find the courage to loose our life that we might save it. No one knows the day nor the hour. We must keep our eyes fixed on Christ.

@jordanp3470

7 ай бұрын

Évidence? Or private revelation?

I've watched a lot of Tim's videos. Always entertaining and insightful. This one in particular the last few minutes about humility and suffering in silence just really hit home. The tone in Tim's voice to me is really reflective of a side of him that I'm sure his family sees more often and why he's such a good exemplar for the Patriarchy. I don't welcome evil times but since they are to come then let us men be strong enough to weather its best shot and keep the faith.

Fantastic show gents. Much blessings acquired.

Very good conversation, leaving much to meditate upon. @Timothy Gordon please take this with the charity I mean to offer it with. I have found you to be as you humbly described yourself. I would say hot-headed. I think that is why our Lord calls who he does - if you wish to overcome, He will give you the grace. What glory to God to turn Saul into St. Paul, and to use the meek to win the greatest battles. We serve a glorious and omnipotent God. If you struggle, He will help you. Deo Gratias!

Loved this topic and convo. Unpacking some fascinating insights from the church fathers and typographies related to really our times.. I’ll say it…I appreciate you.🙏🏼🍻

What an amazing show! Thanks to you both - so important to trust at this time.

Bought Charles newest book from Tan this summer. Crushing it and digging this man’s take and fire. Thanks Tim. He is spot on the pre incarnation world.

@patriciamathews5975

10 ай бұрын

Me too .... Will share also!

This guest pronounces Malachi Martin’s name correctly. How refreshing!

The Eucharistic element is key to understanding what we’re experiencing now, and what is on the horizon. The Holy Eucharist makes the most sense katechonically, as both “He” and “It.” Philosophy has its limits.

Suffering and sacred silence. On point Joshua T Charles!

So how does the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary fit in with a period of peace?

@legiomariae4961

10 ай бұрын

Good question. I have heard some claim we had it, others deny it.

Augustin Followed Tychonius who posited the idea of TWO Bodies within the Church. Tychonius was outside the Church but very perceptive and enlightened to an extent by Christ.

Faith is beyond reason. Philosophy is limited by nature, it is natural , a natural light. Theology is supernatural light. Great interview! Take note our brother Joshua is under obedience.I heard him say that he got permission to read a certain book.👌🏼👌🏼 ✨Hail Full of Grace✨

The Katechon is related to the Eucharist, when the words of consecretion are changed and the Mass is no longer a sacrifice, the flood gates will open.

Great discussion

Thank you

Great insight. Thankyou

Great show guys!

Great show Tim

I agree that the anti-Christ cannot be a pope….for if it would happen, then the “gates of hell” did prevail against the Church, ascending to the very top. That cannot be. Great show. I will have to watch again because it was packed with information. I am astounded that you both retain so much knowledge in memory without notes!

@PhotoSchooner

10 ай бұрын

He could be an antipope, though.

@emilys5024

10 ай бұрын

@@PhotoSchooner This current one, I somewhat was thinking, could be the “false prophet” that comes before the anti-Christ….time will tell. With the visible destruction, definitely an anti-pope, heretic.

@zachwilliams3408

9 ай бұрын

Except Catholic Church is not the true church that’s why it looks like a lamb but speaks like a dragon, everything about Roman Catholicism is pagan, interceding to humans when we know there is only One who intercedes and that is Jesus, also making Mary into a god herself when we all know she needed Christ sacrifice just like everyone else, graven images with your statues of Mary and the rose beads.. vigor of Christ literally translates in Christ place… it’s pretty clear to me..

@lukewilliams448

9 ай бұрын

@@zachwilliams3408Learn what we believe before criticising us. Jesus established the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church

Joshua Charles! How did I miss this one!

Great talk

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Would you be open to talking with Pinesap or Speckzo?

Wow. Joshua great job presenting this. Also, the thumbnail for the video…I have questions about it.

Also isn’t pharmakia in the sorcery.

The katechon is the Great Monarch!

On January 1, 2023 I started at a sede-TLM church. Not because I'm sede, but because I needed a refuge of peace. I also spent time at a Greek Orthodox church. Instead of peace, I went through a period of anguish and trial. I prayed an Our Lady Undoer of Knots Novena because of all these knots in my heart, mind and soul. On the final day, I got my answer that "all knots are undone by love." I also have concluded that none of the liturgies have all the answers or a superior position. But, that we should all be called to suffer together for the good of the church and to stop making each other suffer. Thank you for this confirmation of my conclusions. Places like Medjugorje and other apparition sites are the model of refuges we should seek and create. Start with your home. And, work your way out. Find other Catholics who are willing to suffer with you.

@bryanmarks3749

10 ай бұрын

Medjugorge is fake. Three bishops have declared it so.

I found the fascinating- frustrating, obvious,yet obscure. It seems to me that the description of the apocalypse is very much as Churchills' description of Russia.

Nice shout out to Daniel O'Connor.

The Katechon: The Papacy in general or Pope Pius XII or Pope Benedict XVI in particular?

Any updates on Fr. Crow you can give us Tim? We should all pray for the Bishop to reverse his decision as I am sure this is not the picture the news is painting. God Bless Fr. Crow

Timothy Gordon. I doubt you will ever see this. I wish we were buddies and knew how to get in touch with you. Check on your friend Fr. Alex Crow. I think he is in some trouble. My prayers are with you.

@mercedes_72

10 ай бұрын

Yes please, if you can. My husband once said to a friend in trouble, “I intend to get to Heaven & hope to see you there too, even if it means I have to drag you” Fr. Crow may need a friend willing to do the same thing.😢🙏

Why are followers watching here and not on Rumble?.

Tim , why are you using all those big words!!!! Even your guest don’t understand it…. We all know how smart you are 😔

what is the website for single men to meet good women, i can not find it?

Witchcraft. If we can`t break the spell or the chains that bind him, we all will live and die with the spells and curses. Black magic can be controlled, only by God or his Messenger, only. If the Messenger is on this earth now, it is best we find him, because he is the only hope at are peace and happiness on this Earth. Somebody must stop this mayhem of darkness.

Did you delete the Mary Apparition videos on your own or were you asked to? And if asked to was it by a lawyer or your friend? Your interview with the seminarian is missing too. 🤔

Could the Warning/Illumination of conscience be the fulfillment of prophecy of the Gospel reaching every corner of the earth? Everyone will experience it and see their soul in a state of Judgment.

@seanpetersen9326

10 ай бұрын

Great question. There will not be an illumination of conscious as described by “the warning” “prophesies”. The Garabandal stuff is not legit in any form. If you want truth look at Fatima or Akita. Simple as that. Do not go down the Garabandal/Medjugorje path, it is not approved and has been shot down by multiple local bishops. There’s no reason, we have a wealth of good things in our Church, you don’t need a “quick fix”. Look to Fatima/Shroud of Turin/Hugh Owen/ SACRAMENTS/PRAYER.

Alien Psyop is imminent. Sci-fan boys will be loving it.

@Raksha38

10 ай бұрын

I'm currently driving my mom crazy about this. She's all, "Finally! Disclosure! The truth is out there!" And I'm all, "Nah, aliens aren't real. It's demons." It bothers her.

@patriciamathews5975

10 ай бұрын

You mean the demonic invasion. 👹

On a different subject, did you hear what happened to Fr. Alex Crow? I'm wondering if you have any comment on that, Tim. He didn't seem like the kind of guy who'd take a girl to Europe without notice. The whole situation smells fishy.

As someone who has always read a lot of history, I have no idea where you are getting seven years or the 20 or 30 years. The longest period of time between popes was less than three years And this was in the 1200s

The nature of prophecy is just to give general guidelines and fractal patterns rather than being specific because specificity refers to this or that patricular event. With prophecy you must allow for several possibilities which excludes being specific. Rather we are dealing with fractal patters and repetitive cycles where what has been will be again and what will happen has happened before. This is why we can talk about one Antichrist at the end of time and several antichrists over a period of time This is also why we use topology to give greater clarity as to what will happen in the future which is at present unseen, We are not in the time of the Antichrist but in a time of an antichrist. This is because the Antichrist will come at the end of time just before Jesus returns. Yet we were promised an era of peace that will come after this present trial of crisis and apostasy in today's Church, This era of peace comes before the Antichrist that will come before Jesus returns, What is prophesied for our time is that the pope will become a false prophet giving false heretical teachings as we can see from pope Francis pontificate. JUST as the TLM Mass gave way to the NO Mass, the NO Mass will be replaced by an invalid false Ecumenical Mass which will suppress any valid Mass whether TLM or NO. The pope who gives false teachings will join with the global elite who will have their leader who will be an antichrist until the 3 days darkness destroy hiim and his henchmen. Then Christianity will rise and fall again before the great and final Antichrist. So today Christianity has not reached the entire earth but only all corners of the earth. It is like Christianity has spread all over Europe from the time of St Paul to Constantine. HOWEVER if was only from Constantine to St Francis and St Dominic that Europe became Christian as whole Nations became Christian. The same will happen here. Places like the Middle East China and India have groups or clusters of Christians but are not Christian Nations will become Christian. Only then will Christianity have spread over the earth, This will happen during the long awaited Era of Peace. So for our time the person who was the restrainer was Benedict XVI and what is the restrainer is the valid Mass that will be removed when the false Ecumenical Mass comes in due to the false heretical Synodal Church that will emerge after the Synod on Synodality is completed. Once Jesus is no longer present at Mass interceding for humanity the chastisements in the form of persecution and 3 days of darkness will be unleashed.

@mrlozano

8 ай бұрын

What book explains the point of view that you are sharing here? Who's Theological summations are these?

@albertpost-wx7tb

8 ай бұрын

@@mrlozano The Bible talks about that there is nothing new under the sun and what was will be and what will be already happened. We also see repetitive prophetic patterns like Napoleon and Hitler who like Nero was a type of Antichrist. Each time the cycle repeats itself it becomes more intense. This is what we call repetitive cycles that will crescendo into a big finale. In Math repetitive cycles that increases or decreases each time is known as fractal patterns. The theological summation mentioned above about an era of peace having both tribulation before and after the era of peace come from 2 books called "Catholic Prophecy" by Yves du Pont and the book "Tribulation before during and after Antichrist" by Desmond Birch. These are both books that painstakingly put together prophecies made by Catholic Saints and Mystics throughout the centuries that clearly talks about a time of tribulation coming before an era of peace that will then be followed by another tribulation of the Final Antichrist mentioned in Scripture before Jesus comes again. In both books it mentions the Coming of a French Catholic King and a pope who will restore Catholicism which will then lead to Nations like England and China among other nations embracing the Catholic Faith and that this will happen worldwide. It will include both Nations that once were Catholic as well as nations that have not been Catholic before. Now if you add what was said above to the present day prophecies relevant to our time that surfaced after the above mentioned books were written which talk about apostasy in the Church, 3 days of darkness etc that came to light recently to fill in the blanks not covered by the 2 books, the above outline shows what we can expect from now until the era of peace happening after the 3 days of darkness.

@jordanp3470

7 ай бұрын

Évidence?

How is it that you can’t figure out when the video starts? 😄

What about isolated tribes like the Yanomami? Can we say the gospel has gone to then?

@Dostoevskys_Quill

10 ай бұрын

There is the Yanomami Indigenous Cathedral in the heart of the Amazon, and the Brazilian bishops conference who have been very active in helping the people of the Amazon…so I would say they have heard the gospel…many of the indigenous peoples there have a deep devotion to Our Lady ✝️🕊

Desmond the author of trials, tribulations and triump. Said pope John Paul II said the gospel had only gotten to less than half of world. It was a low percentage. Because it is understood that it will be preached by men not across internet. It has to be taught and sacraments are given. ???

@RestoreJustice675

10 ай бұрын

"Who understands that it must be preached by a Man"..The Bible simply says "The Gospel must first be preached to all nations then the end will come". It does not specify one way or another. That seems to be an extended interpretation or in short an opinion. Protestants in around 2007 or so said that per the rate of preaching the gospel, that it would be accomplished by 2025. Even so simply because it must be preached to all nations, it does not mean the end will immediately come. It just means that portion (jot or tittle of scripture) is fulfilled. ....''The antichrist will come as a deceiver working signs and wonders, deceiving the elect if possible" (Paraphrased).

@steelonsteel2465

3 ай бұрын

I know. who decides? I don’t see Pope Francis as antichrist. He is not handsome, nor charismatic, smooth . Nope. Plus all saints say specific things on him. The restrainer? The Holy Eucharist, He, It? Manna in hebrew means “what’s it? If the holy mass goes underground globally and His Blood is not being offered for public? Blood of men will flow from hatred. Danielle says when the sacrifice is taken from altar. T

Vatican II has profoundly weakened the Church. Is it possible to get weaker? I guess we will find out come the completion of The Synod on Synodality"....

Pope Francis is the Pope who opened the Wide Door of Mercy promised to Sr.Faustina in the Diary of Divine Mercy of opening the Wide Door of Mercy for the first time in the history of the Church since it's beginning from the 13 th century opening door of Mercy every twenty five years in Rome.But in 2015-16 a special Jubilee year was declared opening all the Mercy Door in the whole world. The real next Jubilee was in 2025 as the last Jubilee year was in the year 2000when Pope John Paul second opened the door of Mercy in Vatican in Rome.This is also a great sign for us as Jesus had told Sr.Faustina before I come as a king of justice first I will come as a king of Mercy those who refused to go through the door of Mercy will has to go through the door of justice.

Why is sedevacantist position considered ‘outrageous’? A ‘great apostasy’ is outrageous. Maybe I don’t know what you imply with that adjective.

@mariepaukowits1709

10 ай бұрын

I listen to the sedavacantist more and more lately. I attend the tlm but they don’t seem crazy to me!

The Warning or Illumination of conscience must come first before the great apostasy. Then there is no second guessing what truth is and where each soul stands before this truth. Then a short pause to recollect before the Antichrist is permitted to come public along with the False Prophet.

@patriciamathews5975

10 ай бұрын

There is a Divine principle of Grace before judgement. However, we know we should not wait for the "last call" to repent & love God completely. 🙏

enlightenment is really dark ages

But Our Lord Jesus is the Head of the Catholic Church we must stand firm with Him because He is always with us in the Holy Eucharist, He is an Emmanuel (which mean God with us). John 6:47 - Jesus say "truly truly, I say to you, if any one keeps My Word, he will never see death". John 6:51 - Jesus say to us "I am the living bread which came down from heaven, if any one eats of this bread he will live forever and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is MY FLESH". John 7:18 - Jesus say "he who on his own authority seek his own glory, but he who seeks the glory of Him who sent Him is true and in Him there is no falsehood". John 5:39-40 - Jesus say "you search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life and it is they that bear witness to Me; yet you refuse to come to Me that you may have life". John 5:44 - Jesus say "how can you believe, who receive glory from one another and do not seek the glory that comes from the only God". Luke 10:16 - Jesus told to His Apostles "he who hears you hears Me and he who rejects you rejects Me and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me". Luke 9:1-2 - Jesus called His 12 Apostles together and gave them power and authority over all demons and to cure diseases, and He sent them out to preach the Kingdom of God and to heal. Luke 10:19 - Jesus say to His Apostles "behold, I have given you authority to tread upon serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy and nothing shall hurt you".

Timothy asks, what is meant by the great apostasy. Its the falling away and rejecting the true faith. Pope Francis sitting front row seat during the worshiping of the Pachamama statue could be a form of the great apostasy for sure, which has never been publicly repented from. A pope is not the Antichrist, but one could believe the false prophet is a pope or high ranking Catholic clergyman within the Catholic faith.

@michaelharrington6698

2 ай бұрын

Pachamama is fake news

The Antichrist will be s Secular ruler. The False Prophet [the apostle of Antichrist] could be a Bishop of Rome.

@reginamuller1044

10 ай бұрын

It's Bergoglio!

@johnholmes6667

9 ай бұрын

If people were so attracted to Barack Obama in spite of his obvious proabortion stance as a candidate for president and he slipped in his conversation with “Joe the Plumber” that he favored socialism, will they fall for the charisma of the AntiChrist? It was revealed that Obama had been mentored by a card carrying Communist, Frank Marshall and that community organizing was taught under Marxist Saul Alynski principles but the ignored and voted for him. So too Fetterman was elected in spite of his physical and mental deficiencies. We must seek truth, resist evil and remain in the state of grace.

Timothy: you mentioned you haven't studied theology....boy does it show.

I wish Tim had asked the guest for the source of the story about Cardinal Manning.

“Domittian…. Err Domitian…”. This guy’s a tyro.

Anti Christ , Anti Christ ,where are you , who, what & where , right at ur back yard, What holds back the Anti Christ is that which holds you back from sinning,

The content of this discussion, much like many other discussions on this channel is poor. Many of the points made are so convoluted and to set upon various qualifications to render them null. And its not just this presentation. Other topics on this channel have the same problem. Too many suppositions, to many statements predicated upon qualifications. Faith should be simple, and not predicated upon convolutions.

@johnholmes6667

9 ай бұрын

seamusweber. Dream in. Learning takes effort. Josh Charles is so well read and knowledgeable; Tim explains his weaknesses and strengths. We must seek truth by reading and learning whatever we can from such discussions.