I’m a Danish Jew, still living in Denmark. I love your lecture about the Hungarian Jews. Just one Scandinavian aspect you didn’t mentioned. Raoul Gustav Wallenberg was a Swedish diplomat working in Budapest during the war. He saved up to ten thousand of Jews in Budapest by giving them international passports and housing them in many houses In Budapest. Only a small percentage I now - but that’s why there are still Jewish people in Hungary.

@robertknowles2699

2 жыл бұрын

Dear Mr.Borgesen, My adopted Ma , Margaret Keal, and I went to see a counseler in JFSA in Cleveland in '88. She's Danish on her Dad's side. Boats are a natural and moving to Cedar Key, Flowida, I learned to work hard as a mixed Hebr.-American. Wonderful how Scandi. folk gevura ( give courage ) each day . Wallenberg maybe saved gypsy heritage through music , if we take rowing & even sailing boat up the river bank and defend ourselves , $ not that important. Thank you , Dr. Henry!

@olebrgesen795

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertknowles2699 - maybe some poppies on KZread will interest you more….

@lszujo73

2 жыл бұрын

that's correct.....one of the few people that had the heart and courage to do the right thing no matter what....

@18roselover

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@joekay5380

2 жыл бұрын

My father and members of his family were saved by this special man raoul may his soul rest in peace

A group of Hungarian-Jewish mathematicians and physicists exiled in the US in the 30s and 40s earned the nickname "The Martians" due to their "otherworldly" academic level. Among them was John von Neumann, considered to be one of the greatest mathematicians of all time. It's horrendous to wonder how many great thinkers didn't get out. How many advancements, how much progress never came to be because of the Holocaust? But we should be grateful of the ones who did get out as they contributed immensely to the United States and the world as a whole.

@cryptohalloffame

2 ай бұрын

I'm actually from that group, my hungarian jewish family have some incredibly brilliant individuals, including the person who defined 'knowledge management', one of the great intellectual achievements of the 20th Century.

Most Hungarian Jews settled in Yorkville ( German Town) on the Upper Eastside ( around 72- 79th) of Manhattan. That was where my Great Grandparents settled in with their 9 children, in 1907. Austrians, Germans and Hungarians of all religions lived in Yorkville. I grew up going to the old neighborhood with my Dad, so he could buy real Hungarian ingredients for my Grandma. It would be interesting if you could do a short history of that part of Manhattan.

I highly recommend the film Sunshine by István Szabó which tells the story of five generations of the Sonnenschein (later Sors) family of Hungarian Jews, from the late 19th century till mid 20th century.

@truenokill

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that was amazing

@tit81033

5 ай бұрын

I am hungarian and living here and i am not jewish (or i just don't know). Little history if I don't bored You.19th century was like Szabó's film shows it. There was an israelien survey which looking for israelien DNA percentage in different nations. The 2nd highest was in Hungary (logically the 1st is Israel). The film shows also families which are mixed ethnicity/religion also. In that times Hungary was much more bigger and there were a lot of ethnicities among side the kingdom: serbs, romanian, slovaks, hungarian, ruthenian, germans, jewish, romani. The mixed families was one of the reasons why jews assimilated rapidly mainly in the big cities. The other reason was the permitting regulations for every religions in culture, education etc. The problems had started with the Treaty of Trianon in 04. june 1920. (Hungary lost 71% of its land and 50% if its population). After this the hungarian ethnicity were shocked by this dramatic treaty. 90% of the jews claimed themself also hungarian (not romanian or slovak, serbian). So lot of hungarians (included also the hungarian jews) found themself in a foreign country (the newborn countries which seceded from Hungary for example: Chechslovakia, Romania, Yugoslavia.) And after this the hungarian far right political movement started their propaganda to get back this land and get back the hungarian folks but this political movement only claimed the hungarians as hungarian, including the Jews less and less. Hungary gave gestures to Germany in 1938 for which in return Germany gave back us terrotiries and lands which had 70-100% hungarians folks. The jews also waiting the hungarian army when entering into the freshly got back lands. One of the most "sürreal" pictures is when the hungarian army entering in Transylvania and a jewish rabbi greeted them meanwhile there was a germanian red flag behind him. (I don't name the real name of this germanian flag because the KZread will disable me. This picture can be found on internet). The hungarian jews didn't want to believe that the hungarian state will deport them in one day because they were deeply integrated in the society. But one day the germanians submitted the invoice for the land which they gave back. They changed the hungarian leaders (those leaders who mostly against the deportating or tried to make connects to USA or England) and this lead to 450-550 thousand death in the camps. After the war Hungary lost his territories again and after the germanian demolition the communists started their insane. Just imagine those jews who survived the camps: came back and started to rebuild their lives (started their shops, factory, medical office). The communist made them to 0 again from 1947-48 (communist destroyed also the non jews population goods). And in 1956, there was a revolution against the system which was crushed by the Soviets. That's was the final point of the survivel jews and 80% of them left Hungary to the newborn Israel or USA. In 1990, after the communist regime, the left jewish community started to grow. The hungarian governments give lot of scolarship to renovate the synagoges. Maybe You hear about the miracle rabbies in Satmar: Bodrogkeresztur in which town: the cemetery, synagoge, kosher restaurant, hotel were renovated and some jews from different parts of the world bought houses there and lot tourist come to visit the tomb of the miracle rabbi. So this is the little history. Hope I don't bored You. Best regards.

I was interested in this, as my father - although born in Slovakia before WW1 - came from a Hungarian Jewish family; in fact, his surname was Ungar. His Jewish mother was Slovak, and when he escaped the Nazi threat at the time of the Anschluss and came to England, he was fluent in Slovak, Hungarian and German, and quite competent in English, despite having been brought up in what was then the tiny town of Ruzemberok at the foot of the Tatra mountains by a non-professional family.

@yespls4184

Жыл бұрын

My great-great grandparents were also Hungarian Jews :) they left in the 1920s, so far before the Holocaust. But I'm still very thankful for them.

@soniamacdonald9193

Жыл бұрын

@@truenokill No, Slovakia - actually from the area around Ruzenberok, near the Tatra mountains.

@truenokill

Жыл бұрын

@@soniamacdonald9193 👍

I always look forward to learning more about the history of the Jews throughout the ages. Thank you so much for doing such a good job of teaching!

@HenryAbramsonPhD

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I have a letter written in 1939 by my dad’s aunt, trying to get out of Hungary. She lived in Budapest. She says in the letter that she is afraid that “the Jewish laws” will be “in Hungary, like the ones In Germany,”, and “We will not be able to stay here and live.” She begs for help getting out with her sons. I was surprised the letter was written so early on in the process, because the Nazis did not come until later. I did a double take when I saw the date was 1939. At some point, I do not know the date, here sons were taken out of the home by the SS, and then she was taken out,. None of them survived. .

There was a Jewish census in Hungary in 1842, I believe it was, and I found people in my family from that generation in it. That was pretty incredible.. I have a copy of that page.

@larryolsen4422

Жыл бұрын

Where did you find a 1842 Jewish census in Hungry at ?

@truenokill

Жыл бұрын

Please I need a copy ty

Finally!! I have been waiting for topic for years!! 🙌👐🙌👐👏

5:40 Ohhh now it makes sense. As a descendant of crypto Portuguese sephardic jews who settled in Brazil centuries ago, I share the same matrilineal lineage with some Hungarians jews and also Bukharim and obviously sephardic jews. It's a very rare matrilineal lineage, which can only be found in greater number amongst the Druze from the Levant. Fascinating.

I'm an American and my grandpa's parents were Hungarian Jews who came right before WW1. I'm glad they came by then cause otherwise my grandpa and his family wouldn't be here today.

my father was a hungarian jew, his father was one of the community leaders of budapest, an incredibly brilliant individiual

@user-xt4ry9iw8h

2 ай бұрын

lm moroccan and my boyfriend is hungarian and his grandparents were Jewish also but he chose to be Christian ❤😇

As another commentator here remarked, it's worth noting the accomplishments of a group of Hungarian Jewish refugees known as the Martians, a group of physicists who made major contributions to science and also play lead roles in developing the atomic bomb during the Manhattan Project ( especially Edward Teller). One of them, "Johnny" Von Neumann made major contributions to the fields of mathematics, quantum theory, and computer science and was widely regarded by his peers as on a whole other level of Genius

@HenryAbramsonPhD

2 жыл бұрын

Martians?

I just finished viewing SUNSHINE a marvelous 1997 film by , István Szabó . It is just a glorious piece of art, but also gives a very compelling history lesson beginning with 19th century imperial era. Have a look if you have not seen or if it has been a while. I got the DVD from my library.

BOOK: We Were the Future: A Memoir of the Kibbutz by Yael Neeman. Born on one I do not remember which in 1960. Hungarian, chain smoking, and non religious, they foisted the desert up with bare hands, shovels, dynamite, and truckloads of valley earth. They celebrated Chanukah. That's it. Great read.

The history you present defines the fill in gaps to unknown time line history. I humbly thank you.

Under Matthias Rex in the XV. century and probably before as well Jews were allowed to ride a horse and wear a sword, unheard of elsewhere at that time outside the Kingdom of Hungary.

Thank you for another excellent lecture. My mother’s family is originally from Ungvar but I did not know very much about Jewish/Hungarian history. Looking forward to future videos.

@Kormos17

2 жыл бұрын

my jewish relatives are from Ungvar aswell

I have heard that the language of the Magyars are one of the seventy languages of the nations , unlike french Spanish or Italian that are built on Latin which the Gemara says is not a language on its own .( Avodah Zarah 10a see גור אריה from Mahara”l on Rashi Devarim 32:21) Or all the dialects of the Germanic tribes .like Dutch Deutch English some of Scandinavian languages each being a dialect of an original. Or like Slavic languages etc. Magyar stands on its own as a original language of the seventy.

I just found this interesting video. I might be one of them, born an raised in budapest, although it is my father who is jewish, and my mom is a protestant christian. (both my parents were born after WWII) I recognise many elements in my own father's family, my grandpa family comes from a more wealthy bourgois jewish family who settled in budapest in late 19th century, they had german surnames, and my grandma is from a poor but more religious family from bekescsaba or maybe kisvarda, with a slavic sounding surname, they both survived the war in budapest, in hiding. I often think of my youth or even today of all the strange interaction and worldview of the different jews of half jews like myself I grew up with, and also all the other parts of my family christians or atheists in the backdrop of communism, post holocaust, etc. I thikn I had a good childhood, fairly typical of my surroundings, and I still love budapest

This is so hard to hear. But thank you for your life's work in getting and keeping this information in front of us. Keep up the good work!

Been called to learn more on these topics. My Great Grandfather was murdered in the Holocaust. He my main guardian that I came in with. My father did not know tell her was grown. I was raised Baptist. I am now a S.H.E.S minister and remember past energies and work with them 🧬🧜‍♀️🎶🌈😇🐉🔔🕊💞🌎

I visited the synagogue in Budapest. It was really cool.

@HenryAbramsonPhD

4 ай бұрын

There are several, and yes they are very cool.

Interesting you say that many Jews from the Spanish expulsion ended up in the land of the Magyars, which was in ottoman hands . I heard from my Grandmother a Gestetner from home . She told , that her father still remembered the original Spanish name of the family before changing it . It is now forgotten.

@HenryAbramsonPhD

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting

@zafirjoe18

2 жыл бұрын

@@HenryAbramsonPhD the Torah Temima writes that his family name Epstein was originally Benbenisti of Sephardic extraction.

I'm Jewish and I have just discovered your KZread channel. I appreciate your comments.

@HenryAbramsonPhD

2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy in good health!

You did a great job on discussing the Hungarian Jewish history in sort of a nutshell. As far as I know I have no Jewish genes in me, but I always wondered about family names. I feel more Jewish since my heart goes out to them, I am learning Hebrew and my spirit is very kindred to the people of Israel. I was once told by a good Jewish friend that I might have a Jewish soul or spirit. Can I find out more about this?

I heard from my grandfather that there are from the בעלי תוספות that are buried in Buda . I didn’t have the שכל to accompany him once on one of his trips to Hungary . But I read that the R’ Tam had a student called Rabeinu Yitzchok מארץ הגר.

Great video! A video about Munkacs, Beregsurany and Khuzt jewery could also be interesting. Taking into account the dense population of Jews in this region during the 19th/early 20th century.

@yodorob

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention the Jews of Ungvar, Sighet, and other similar localities in the area! (And my mother's parents, before the Holocaust, came from villages in the mountains just northeast of Khust.)

The mother in law joke slayed me :D

@HenryAbramsonPhD

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad that you enjoyed the class! Thank you for being a public subscriber!

Thank you so much for posting. Looking forward to more of your videos.

@HenryAbramsonPhD

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! I'm glad that you enjoyed the videos.

Yes the Sh’aar Ephraim was the Rabbi of בודא or Alt Ofen אלט אובן as the Ashkenazi chief Rabbi to Buda . He was captured and taken as captive by the Austrians , whilst his grandson the Chacham Zvi who suffered a direct hit from a canon on his house . The one that killed his young wife and child , ran away to soloniki . So he managed to learn the דרך הלימוד of the Ashkenazim through his father and דרך הלימוד הספרדי since he learned in the yeshivot of the sefardim . As the Chacham Tzvi ran further into Turkish territory. He was later crowned Rabbi of Bosnia . Later head of the kluiz in Ah”u, before being called to serve as chief rabbi of the Ashkenazim in Amsterdam with a sizeable and influential Portuguese Sephardic community. And called Chacham a sefardi kind of title.

Well done!

...My parents have direct connections to north eastern Austria Hungary.... I have studied a lot about this area and culture.... Your video is very simple for me....However, when learning about things like this for the first time, this information is very complicated... I wish I had KZread years ago, and videos like this, to make that learning experience easier....Anyway, my parents were robed in 2015, and I am still looking for them....The harassment, terrorism, distortion, and fabrication that came against my family and home, the last few decades was like or worse then what the Nazis did....They are using modern technologies and the system to destroy.....Also, this horror was experienced first hand, so it wasn't in a past story......Lastly, no one really helped, when they had all the capabilities to do so....Many were and are notified about this....It's still going on, but I am making ends meet and getting more things together, as best I can.....Truthfully MF....Freezing through another winter with no heat, hot water, washer, dryer, gas, no family, no money except some food stamps and tiny credit card amounts, with leaky roofs and busted frozen water pipes.....This is what my parents, siblings, and me dedicated everything toward our home investment of fifty years, and to my university education....All financial doors and opportunities slammed shut......

Many thanks. Very useful and informative.

@HenryAbramsonPhD

2 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

Dr. Abramson is too fast for an educator. He covers very informative topics sometimes with little breathing. I love his videos nevertheless. I learnt a lot from them.

Do a video on Serbian Jews please. Good stuff Henry!

@scottwarthin1528

2 жыл бұрын

A video of Serbian Jewish history would be interesting.

Thank you for your explanations. Maybe you have some article about Jews in Hungary?

@HenryAbramsonPhD

2 жыл бұрын

Book version planned for the future.

Do you have any info on the origins of the last name Schwersky/Shavorsky?

Must read "Perfidy" by Ben Hecht......a lot more could have been saved (like my family!)

Thanks for the short overview

@HenryAbramsonPhD

5 ай бұрын

Glad you found it useful

Thank You.

In Rabbinic writings the land of the Magyars is called ארץ הגר see Targum psalm 83:7.

i’m an Ashkenazi Jew and my family lived in Hungary, Germany, Poland, and Ukraine. out of all these places, i feel the strongest connection to the land of Hungary. beautiful country that my ancestors called home for over a thousand years. the people suck tho lol

unfortunately,we hungarians collaborated with the nacis by sending 600000 souls to certain death in a few months at the end of ww2....difficult times those were,yet no excuse for what we did/or rather didn't do/

@molivson

2 жыл бұрын

You're not responsible for the sins of the previous generation as long as you don't repeat it.

@lszujo73

2 жыл бұрын

@@molivson oh yes,I'm responsible to acknowledge it

Thank you so much. I would love to hear more about the Sephardic Jews in Hungary and how many survived over the centuries. I heard there was a small group in Kisvarda, but that they were eventually absorbed by the Hasidic Jews. Is that true?

@HenryAbramsonPhD

5 ай бұрын

I don't know. Will have to do more research.

@alexbenson245

5 ай бұрын

@@HenryAbramsonPhD Thank you Dr. Abramson! Your work is doing so much good in the world!

My father’s dads side was sent to the ghetto in Budapest. I don’t know why they went from Poland to Budapest. It’s a terrible story. The other side was in Lithuania.

Hey Rabbi, shabbat shalom! I am sure you know about the "martians". For those that don't know that term, they were a bunch Hungarian Jews who were so BRILIANT, like Von Nuemann etc., people joked and called them Martians! For their tremendous intellect!!!!! BTW they were physicists instrumental for us in developing the atomic bomb.....

@NuNugirl

Жыл бұрын

I’m a Neumann/Gutmann on my Father’s side, all his relatives were Hungarian Jews. I’m curious how the scientist got Von added to his name.

@dougthegreat1808

Жыл бұрын

@@NuNugirl His father was elevated to nobility status by Emporer Franz Joseph of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. John or Janus I believe his birth name, added the German "Von" to his name relating to his elevated status. Kind of complicated occurrence of events....BTW, my grand parents too could have been his neighbor of sorts..... HE WAS A VERY VERY VERY BRILLIANT MATHEMATICIAN AND PHYSICIST.

No direct mention of Satmar? No direct mention of Joel Brandt? You make vague allusions to them. Odd.

@HenryAbramsonPhD

2 жыл бұрын

Brief video.

I think king Coloman the Book-Lover in the introdution of this video kind of looks like the medieval superman, what with the blue suit and the red cloak, I bet you he could fly !!

you seem to have a "hole" of some 1700 years in your speculation :( what happend between 70 AD to the 1700 .... ??

God Jerusalem Jews and Israel

@HenryAbramsonPhD

4 ай бұрын

Hope you found it useful