I really like the explanation of "food you couldn't make in your kitchen if you tried". Very clear.

@johnsmithers8913

Ай бұрын

I don't know, I have a very sophisticated chemistry set at home.

@susanwojcickisnicetwin

Ай бұрын

I can't make a side of beef in my kitchen.

@Michelle-zz7no

Ай бұрын

@@johnsmithers8913but is it for food? 🤔🤔😂😂

@user-iu6is3ux7x

Ай бұрын

I agree

@chrisharmata1797

Ай бұрын

It’s a horrible explanation. Cookies are considered ultra processed. So is ice cream. Both can be made in your kitchen:

And now they want you to think that ultra processed vegetables that taste like meat is the way to go 🤔

@thedisappointedoptimist6916

Ай бұрын

Lol doesn't exist

@loriannbendit6296

Ай бұрын

@@thedisappointedoptimist6916 what doesn’t exist?

@angelicalee6

Ай бұрын

Exactly. All that lab food is scary. It tastes like chicken but it's not.... it's meat but it isn't. Scary

@donteddy1858

Ай бұрын

@@angelicalee6 Just wait until they figure out the right chemicals to produce the right aroma. And with the insect enthusiasts you will get ultra processed insect burgers soon enough.

@obedientfire840

Ай бұрын

​@@thedisappointedoptimist6916it does

"cool whip." - Jordan Peterson, 2024

@ColonialT7

Ай бұрын

-Stewie Griffin

@mjay6245

Ай бұрын

Coo hhwip.

@peewee6187

Ай бұрын

Can definitely make cool whip in your kitchen

@billyrubano8268

Ай бұрын

Isn't that just sugar and heavy whipping cream? Lol

@kyrollos777

Ай бұрын

A table spoon of soybean oil has the same amount of estrogen(natural female hormone) quivalent to a birth control pill. As you can see, many men are seeking women hood after the stuff it in everything. Not a coincidence.

Finally, the description for ultra-processed food I’ve been waiting for

Overfed, undernourished, and addicted to food like substitutes.

And people criticize meat and potatoes.

@FlorHuang

Ай бұрын

The old reliable 😋

@Dino-god69

Ай бұрын

Don’t forget the morning beans. That shit will make you gassy but if you can handle that, dudeeeee the GAINS

@RinZ3993

Ай бұрын

The problem with meat is that it is made if dead animals

@shadowraptors1132

Ай бұрын

​@@Dino-god69you're British aren't you?

@jelcoleys8087

Ай бұрын

Whether or not meat and potatoes are a good meal has nothing at all to do with whether or not processed foods are garbage. Classic fallacy.

“Food like” that pretty well summarizes it

@aneeqaahmad6927

29 күн бұрын

what would be an example of food like products ?

@gtcam723

29 күн бұрын

Kraft Mac & Cheese. Totinos Pizzas. Top Ramen. To name but a few

@harrylawson6293

27 күн бұрын

Actually it's an awful summary. Ultra processed food is food. It's in the name. An "ultra processed food".

@VaBeachBeach2971

18 күн бұрын

You make cool whip in minutes with heavy whipping cream and cake mixer. Lol! Cool Quip!

@gtcam723

18 күн бұрын

@@VaBeachBeach2971 yeah. As compared to: Water Corn syrup High fructose corn syrup Hydrogenated vegetable oil (coconut and palm kernel oils) Skim milk Light cream Sodium caseinate (from milk) Natural and artificial flavor Xanthan and guar gums Modified food starch Lol

Should be illegal. We need food reform badly

@kevinreilly6774

Ай бұрын

It's up to the people to hold the government accountable. Seems we just don't do that anymore. We're all so distracted.

@Pearmesan

Ай бұрын

@@kevinreilly6774they don’t care and they want you de*d 💀

@SoloAdvocate

Ай бұрын

​@@kevinreilly6774 Its because the government protects these corporations and makes it harder for your local producers of food to compete. Not saying there should be no regulations but there are many that simply exists to encourage dependence on these few major food corporations. Buy as local as possible whenever possible stop buying this junk. That is how the average person fights back. Voting is all good but people need to make actionable changes over what they fully have control over.

@dianapennepacker6854

Ай бұрын

No it shouldn't, because blanketed entire types of food is retarded. Don't listen to these fools who know nothing, and get rich off misinformed fads. Do some ultra processed foods have less nutrients? Sure. They can also be easier to digest at the same time. They are also cheaper. You know what is worse than having ultra processed food? Having no food. Also the government shouldn't control what people eat as long as it isn't clearly harmful. Which ultra processed food is not. There are better options. Moderation is key when it comes to doing drugs and diet. Anyone who blankets artifical versus natural or non processed versus ultra processed are DUMB.

@suzikynz2765

Ай бұрын

People need to stop buying it first. Otherwise no change will happen. 😢 and people will never stop buying cheaper and cheaper foods... so... our bellies is gonna be plastic and rubber at the end of it. Just like the fish in the ocean. 😢

Need a collab of Jordan Peterson saying “Cool Whip” and Stewie from Family guy saying it 😂😂😂

@jpatt85

Ай бұрын

ASAP!!

@Mako-uw1cm

Ай бұрын

That would be legendary… plz someone make it happen!

@pobodyisnerfect

Ай бұрын

Coohwip!

@kaarsty

Ай бұрын

@@Mako-uw1cmI made a short one check out the link below 😂

@johnjames8253

Ай бұрын

R-Roadhouse.

If bugs won't eat it you shouldn't eat it. Margarine.

@sharoncontini3284

Ай бұрын

So true, so gross.

@gabrielsierra6890

Ай бұрын

When I learned how they make it and how they make it look palatable, I lost interest! Returned to the good old butter, such a joy!

@andresrincon7240

Ай бұрын

So you eat shit and rotten animals too??

@Teirmz

Ай бұрын

You're really extrapolating bug biology to humans?

@SoSickRick

Ай бұрын

Bugs eat dog poop, plants, and other insects. I think I’ll make my own dietary plan

Years ago my father told me "never eat anything you couldn't make at home" it has served me well.

@devilsolution9781

Ай бұрын

Never eat something that isn't dead. If it wasn't alive, don't eat it.

@Suganda-wj7uo

28 күн бұрын

@@PeterJones-fx2xd to be fair you can make a lot of ultra processed food at home

@Tree1715

27 күн бұрын

@@devilsolution9781never eat salt? Never eat ice? Never eat cheese or milk or yoghurt ? Never eat honey?

@devilsolution9781

27 күн бұрын

@@Tree1715 Yeh you got it kid, honey is pollen which is life, your meat has all the minerals so you dont need salt. Yogurt and cheese are made from protein which HAS to be made by life.

@devilsolution9781

27 күн бұрын

@@Tree1715 Ice isnt a bad one but theres no neccesity. Can you think of ANYTHING we need that doesnt come from life? Now go check your ingredients list and see what is and isnt from life. Ez. Once you know, you know.

I love how you are spot on with your questions

Seemingly informative but devoid of context, specific details, or actionable information. Gotta love shorts.

@johnvahl762

26 күн бұрын

That is why they put a shortcut to the full episode in the description. It is a trailer.

"It's Cool Hwip, Dr. Peterson." ~ Stewie Griffith Edit - ok it's Griffin, not Griffith. Got it👍

@ryantogo8359

Ай бұрын

Why are you putting such an emphasis on the h?

@jonathanj9260

Ай бұрын

@@ryantogo8359Hweat Thins.

@maximus4691

Ай бұрын

😂😂

@CyborXT

Ай бұрын

Say "whip"

@Mad4Patter

Ай бұрын

@@ryantogo8359somebody hasn’t seen family guy

I feel like it’s rare for a question to be asked and answered so clearly

Just the question of what is the difference between processed and ultra processed shows how thoroughly Dr. Peterson thinks about everything. Thank you sir, you have taught me so very much.

@flemming1535

Ай бұрын

You must be lobotomized if you think asking the difference between two terms is being “thorough”

@asimhussain8716

Ай бұрын

@@flemming1535 I'm sure your line of questioning would be far more intelligent.

I accidentally ate my cat's food last night. Don't ask meow. I was forced to swallow purple food color. I feel violated.

@RedKrow

Ай бұрын

😂

@Basik123456

Ай бұрын

I’ve seen your dad jokes on more than one video. Keep it up. You’re putting smiles on peoples faces.

@gabrielsierra6890

Ай бұрын

had a neighbor who's dog died and he had a stack of canned dog food. He tried one and ended up eating the whole stack over time.

@RedKrow

Ай бұрын

@@gabrielsierra6890 you do know that the cat food story was a joke, right? This dog food story sadly sounds real…

@rainynight6914

Ай бұрын

Get out! 🤣♥️

FYI, during COVID Bill Gate became the biggest farmland owner in the USA

@mspenguin2070

Ай бұрын

Really? I thought China owned the most (Thats only slightly sarcastic)

@Iampatrix

Ай бұрын

And he did it to limit food production. He's part of the global elite faction that believes we need to drastically reduce the global population. Literally a super villain.

@Xaero324

Ай бұрын

​@@Iampatrix in a way I believe we do. Sooner or later over population will kill us, either from each other or nature will do it.

@flemming1535

Ай бұрын

@@Iampatrix source?

@Iampatrix

Ай бұрын

@@flemming1535 look up his comments about population control, he's openly said it in interviews. He makes it sound nice by talking about climate change and innovating food production while reducing grazing land and phasing out meats in our diets. Ultimately it boils down to population control when you add it all up.

Hahhaha... the genius of the professor is that when he finds something funny, he turns it into something hilarious

@DittonWilson

Ай бұрын

" the genius of the professor " incredible

@McVaerk

Ай бұрын

The paradox of being a deep thinker doing infotainment. He wants to educate people (and make them educate themselves to maximum capacity and eloquence), but in the era of attention economy it's not enough to be interesting with teacher/mentor quality, it also has to be funny to keep the audience, so not a bad idea to mix himself with less gloomy stand-uppers/comedians like Theo Von, Matt Rife, Joe Rogan, am I forgetting some?

@RinZ3993

Ай бұрын

Wait.. when is Peterson funny?

@at752

Ай бұрын

@@RinZ3993 you should see his lectures. he can crack a joke once in a while.

@RinZ3993

Ай бұрын

@@at752 I've seen more than enough of him to conclude that I don't consider him funny. He is often the opposite. He is very serious and heavy handed. He can bring a funny mood down pretty quickly

I hope one day there will be an interview with Dr.Lustig He got a lot of idea on this topic

Wish they'd come up with a different naming convention. Doctors always tell us eating processed food is unhealthy, but there's nothing unhealthy about cutting up your fruits and veggies xD

Love Jordan’s suit jacket, “CLEAN YOUR ROOM” gotta love it.

Well Doc i have to thank you again because besides my mental health were you helped me to understand what I was dealing with you also helped me to get the right food inside me iam on carnivore diet and man i feel great. So thank you very much you are the best and i love you and your family forever 🙏🙏🙏

Like Kraft singles. “Cheese Product”. They actually claim it’s cheese. Then there is Velveeta, which is clearly Bondo in block form, without the hardener applied.

@radradR0bot

Ай бұрын

They don't actually claim it's cheese. it's called a processed cheese product.

@12gark

Ай бұрын

​@@ausholeI'm italian, so I've never cooked nor tasted "Alfredo" in my life. But I've cooked plenty of big portions of pasta with many different cheese, and regularly cook pasta for friends and family. I never used any kind of "emulsifier" nor ultra-processed industrial product. The way you avoid having a giant blob of pasta is by using proper pasta and cooking it the right amount, and then serving it quickly in not gigantic portions. A small quantity of cooking water (like ½ spoon per portion) will help in certain situations.

@jkorok6357

Ай бұрын

​@@12gark any chesse is ultra processed so no you have used ultra processed products lol.

@12gark

Ай бұрын

@@jkorok6357 first off, not all cheese is ultra-processed, and even the one that is ultra processed (blue cheese for example) is not ultra processed to turn trash into food-like stuff, but to achieve a particular taste. That's the issue: processing the food is not a problem, humanity does it since the beginning of civilisation. Using 53 chemical additives to turn the worst quality ingredients into something that seems edible and not always is but can be produced in mass for very cheap it's another thing entirely. Also, I specified "industrial" for a reason.

@DanielCovington

Ай бұрын

​@@12gark Emulsifier is just a fancy word. Good cooks use emulsifiers all the time. It's something that keeps water based stuff and oil based stuff from separating, for example, the egg in mayonnaise. Emulsifiers are just fine, provided they're derived from food rather than from oil well byproducts.

Those are poisons, disguised as food.

I processed my burger paddy, when I chewed it up, then me belly, processed it a little further ….

@tomwallen7271

Ай бұрын

Exactly. "processed foods" are just anything other than the raw food straight from the source. An uncooked steak is 'processed' insofar as someone sliced it before it got to you. So it's just about getting normal foods that are minimally processed rather than like... Blue Heat Takis.

So, its a processed food with a scary new name attached.

My mum used to buy strawberries and a small carton of 1 thousand percent cream which she'd blend with a hand-crank mixer and add a little sugar. You gotta work for real food. Didn't have to worry about saving any of the cream for later.

@ajjohn8729

Ай бұрын

By definition that's ultra processed

@TheLastAlgonquin

Ай бұрын

A thousand percent?

@flemming1535

Ай бұрын

How is that “real food”? Literal goyslop

@jkorok6357

Ай бұрын

That, is very ultra processed food mate.

If you cannot buy the individual _ingredients_ on the lable in the same grocery store, DO NOT buy the product. It's that easy.

@user-fg1nt9vi7c

Ай бұрын

That’s actually a really good way of thinking about it! Unfortunately that’s near everything nowadays.

@jesujuwonoyebode4941

Ай бұрын

Instruction taken! Thanks

@laprepper

Ай бұрын

I just wish I could find ice cream that didn’t have five types of gum in it😂😢

@purplerose155

Ай бұрын

That’s impossible

@TheSpecialJ11

Ай бұрын

There's a few exceptions I'd say, like pectin is useful for making jam, but good luck finding it in a small grocery store.

That's why I shop around the perimeter of the market. Stay out of the middle lanes. Once I get my back yard to where I want it, I'll start growing my own veggies.

@XDWX

Ай бұрын

Ive always said the same thing. Enter the grocery store and turn sharp right to the produce, then all the way back to the meats, then get out. Everything in the middle is cookies, chips, soda, boxed dinners and other garbage.

@hazelbite

Ай бұрын

That's exactly right. We try to eat organic as much as we can. We have made the switch from sugar to natural sugars like honey & maple syrup. And lastly, it's not just about nutrition, there is also going non-toxic to help the environmental factor.

@Meton2526

Ай бұрын

@@hazelbite Honey and maple syrup are not significantly better for you than refined white sugar. It's fine to use them sparingly, but replacing the refined sugars with honey or maple syrup on a calorie for calorie basis, or for an equal sweetness level, is not better for you.

@hazelbite

Ай бұрын

@Meton2526 Beg pardon, but I am not worried about the calories as much as the unhealthy processed coke cane. Raw organic honey and maple syrup are both excellent substitutions for the stuff that's like hero in on the brain. Furthermore, they have many added nutritional values beside not being processed. Maple syrup is 100% of daily required manganese and 80% riboflavin along with other minerals, oligosaccharides, amino acids, organic acids, and phenolic compounds. It is also an antioxidant. Honey has a very similar nutritional value. And, the best part about them and dates, which I also use, are all much lower on the glycemic index than your beloved sugar. The more you know 🌟 🌈

@rjsophia3712

Ай бұрын

@@XDWX After produce and meats, don’t forget dairy and eggs. We also choose to only eat berries for fruit and only cruciferous vegetables. And definitely no seed oils, only Olive, avocado, or coconut oils.

Bro has never heard of a food processor...

What did the hot dog say when his friend passed him in the race? Wow, I relish the fact that you’ve mustard the strength to ketchup to me.

@lindacasey5016

Ай бұрын

Lol! You're so darn cute!

@RG-ls2db

Ай бұрын

Nice

@sherbear8097

Ай бұрын

😂

@stoggsherfnik4569

Ай бұрын

Good one dad

@lucienskinner-savallisch5399

Ай бұрын

His friend then asked "mayo move over so I can pass"

Cool-whip, Velveeta, I can't believe it's NOT Butter.... So many good tasting chemical based products.

@kingdodgearcane

Ай бұрын

Everything is chemicals

"Squeezy Cheeze". "If it's almost cheese but not quite, it's Squeezy Cheeze! - Dot Warner, Animaniacs

@DanielCovington

Ай бұрын

What we call processed cheese starts with a German immigrant cheesemonger in Philedelphia in the late 1800s by the name of Kraft. He was trying to can cheese. The oil kept separating out of it in the can. He figured out that if he blended his cheese with citric acid it stabilized it. That's basically what all your processed cheese products are derived from. He derived the idea from the Swiss practice of adding wine dregs to cheese when melting it for dishes like fondue. Citric acid is about as processed as white vinegar. It's all the additional stuff since then that's causing the issues. Applesauce, sausage, pickles and mayonnaise are not inherently bad. It's just that they make great hiding places for stuff that is.

This is the most insanely succinct explanation of anything I've ever seen on any subject on KZread.

The only healthy aisle outside the perimeter of the supermarket is the bean rice and lentil aisle.

The best way I’ve heard ultra processed explained is you can think of it as “pre digested food”. The food is quite literally broken down to its chemical components in a process of mechanical digestion. Then it’s stitched back together in a Frankenstein like manner along with many preservatives and additives, most of which are literally inedible! Your body doesn’t know what to do with this concoction of predigested food and chemical additives. One of the most common effects of eating such foods is can destroy the health bacteria in your gut and it confuses your body, which can cause hormonal problems. Especially not triggering the release of grhelin to make you feel full.

@Unlimited469

Ай бұрын

I'd love to read about this, do you have any studies about this I can look at about this?

Very little is "ultra-processed" you can make most of what is in stores, it's just a pain in the ass, and when you make it from scratch you don't use preservatives or methods that make it have a long "shelf life" (likely what he is referring to in being "ultra-processed"), because you don't have to worry about it having a "shelf life".

@DanielCovington

Ай бұрын

Olive oil and lard are processed. Corn oil and soybean oil are ultra-processed. Tofu is processed. Beyond-burger is ultra-processed.

@nevyns9285

Ай бұрын

@@DanielCovington yeah but I can collect rendered fat for use in cooking. I do it all the time with corned beef, makes some killer hamburgers to mix a bit in with the meat.

@icestationzebraassociates2460

Ай бұрын

"you don't use preservatives or methods that have a long "shelf life" Making it not ultra-processed. Do you carry hydrolyzed soy protein in your pantry? Are you adding it to your recipes?

@TheBigMamaFreak

29 күн бұрын

@@icestationzebraassociates2460lol, would you not consider a cookie ultra processed?

@strav8337

18 күн бұрын

@@TheBigMamaFreakyou cant just simplify a broad range of foods like cookies into being ultra processed or not (from this guys definition of it). Because a cookie can be a million different things with millions of different ingredients in different ratios. Some cookies are ultra processed and some aren’t, you cant give an accurate answer to such a broad question as this since basically no information was given on what the cookie is made of.

I don't eat that anymore, lost weight, got muscled, sharper

I moved to Thailand. The street food is almost all from scratch and very healthy. I've lost wait and feel better than ever.

For decades, nutritionists told us to eat whole foods, the least processed...for our health...now, they flip.

@wp3158

Ай бұрын

No they haven't, and processed doesn't equal bad.

@woody442

Ай бұрын

@@wp3158food-company-ambassador?

@scribbler60

Ай бұрын

Again, for the uninitiated: anyone can call themselves a nutritionist. It is not a regulated term, like dietician or physician or plumber. It requires no formal education, no exam, there's no governing body. The term is absolutely meaningless.

@Teirmz

Ай бұрын

What nutritionist is telling you to buy cool whip?

@12gark

Ай бұрын

​@@wp3158true... To a degree. You can process food a lot and keep it healthy, and you can turn perfectly edible food into poison with minimum processing, but IN GENERAL, industrial product don't get extra processing because they want to achieve something good, but just to turn the worst quality ingredients into something that looks edible.

It's better to buy vegetables from a farmers market than a supermarket.

@Meton2526

Ай бұрын

What's the evidence for that assertion?

@Nipah.Auauau

Ай бұрын

@@Meton2526 Ancestral blood memory.

@Meton2526

Ай бұрын

@@Nipah.Auauau ..... what?

@songsthatarecatchy

Ай бұрын

But more expensive and they don't always take ebt

@callak_9974

Ай бұрын

Not necessarily, apparently some of the sellers at a farmer's market get the same produce that the supermarket gets and sells them that way. Look at the boxes the produce comes in, then you'd know. A plain cardboard or wooden boxes, probably from a farm they run. If there's different company logos on them though....

I love how he says Cool Whip but we make Whipped Cream every week with no issue.

@kamparker9726

21 күн бұрын

Cool Whip and whipped cream are completely different. In the same way that margarine and butter are different. You can leave Cool Whip out on a plate on your kitchen table for days, and it wont melt or 'decay'. There are several videos and studies about it. Whipped cream (especially homemade) will become a liquid again fairly quickly (as in less than 30 minutes) if you left a scoop of it out on a plate on your kitchen table.

@strav8337

18 күн бұрын

Do you use the exact same ingredients in similar ratios or just make a similar product to it? If not you are not making cool whip and there is no reason to comment this

I try to use the single ingredient foods found on the outer walls of the grocery store. Avoid the isles, that's were the carcinogens are.

In Latin America...Nova... no va... won't go.. doesn't work lmao

@sweetiespoon5150

Ай бұрын

The Nova classification (Portuguese: nova classificação, 'new classification') is a framework for grouping edible substances based on the extent and purpose of food processing applied to them. Researchers at the University of São Paulo, Brazil, proposed the system in 2009. Source: Wikipedia

Gave it all up 4 months ago. I'm straight carnivore now. Lost 45lbs. Almost no more inflammation. I feel amazing.

@chickentoucher55

Ай бұрын

Because your eating under your maintenance calories, the protein is keeping you satiated

@HelplessTeno

Ай бұрын

@@chickentoucher55 I didn't see him mention his calorie intake. He must have told you his entire diet in private or something. No way you'd just ASSUME.

@bthorn5035

Ай бұрын

@HelplessTeno I'm eating around 3lbs of beef every day. About 3,200 - 3,500 calories.

@BobbiJoGeho

Ай бұрын

I've been a carnivore for 20 months. I lost 48 lbs and all the pain and inflammation in my body in the first 6 months.

@strav8337

18 күн бұрын

⁠​⁠@@HelplessTenodo you understand how weight loss works? When you consume less calories than needed to maintain your weight you lose weight. Because they said they lost almost 50 pounds it is obvious they are eating in a calorie deficit as you wont lose 50 pounds of water weight just from eating some beef.

People talk about ultra processed foods and then don’t tell us examples. Cooking, salting, freezing, and mixing all denature proteins. They get denatured in your stomach. Unless you’re eating it fresh out of the ground or slaughter house, you are probably eating processed food.

I needed to cut costs and started cooking from the base. Tastes great, if you stay simple does not take long... Feel great!

Krogers fruits don’t ripen or rot, they just shrivel up. Bananas are okay, but peaches, plums, pears. Yuck! So weird. What are they doing to our food?!

@Meton2526

Ай бұрын

You're trying WAY too hard to find things to demonize. No one is getting metabolic diseases from eating the wrong whole produce.

@BradKandyCroftFamily

Ай бұрын

Look into Apeel. It's something they spray on food to keep it from rotting, but they won't reveal what's in it and only say "it's plant based". What people have been able to derive that's in it is dangerous for health.

@mhknfh3049

Ай бұрын

Spraying it so the millions of bugs don’t get it. Modifying it to be bigger and sweeter because you wouldn’t buy it if it wasn’t

@blameese

Ай бұрын

It’s sad because pears are so good 🥲

@JohnnyLoDown

Ай бұрын

It's 'their' food and they can do what they want with it. You don't have to buy it. We need to realize that the only 'votes' large companies listen to are the votes consumers make with their wallets. If enough people stay away from the frankenfoods the companies will slowly stop making them... (at least that's the hope).

"fantastic question" - continues to not give a definition, then Peterson says "they're like food except they're not edible"... Complete bullshit

@Teirmz

Ай бұрын

Right? I don't get it, nothing was really said here

@kingdodgearcane

Ай бұрын

Didn't he say "anything you can't make at home?" or nah?

@Teirmz

Ай бұрын

@@kingdodgearcane that's not good enough

Yes they’re edible. That’s the problem.

We are the baby birds. The food industry is the mother birds. They chemically create their foods, and chew it up, wrap it in some plastic, and sell it to us.

“Processed” is a term used by people that are too dumb to know what the processes are and feel entitled enough to claim expertise.

@TommyTombstone

Ай бұрын

This guy is an expert on food and just explained the difference to you, cornball.

@geekswithfeet9137

Ай бұрын

I’m sorry you’re not capable of understanding he actually didn’t, the dudes only expertise is a claimed one. He’s an author.

@TommyTombstone

Ай бұрын

@@geekswithfeet9137 Writing the definitive book on a topic that nobody else is talking about qualifies you as the expert. "Processed food is a continuum that starts with something as simple as slicing an apple. Ultra-processed food is any food which cannot be made in a home kitchen no matter how hard you try." The clip is 60 seconds long, listen.

@geekswithfeet9137

Ай бұрын

@@TommyTombstone bro…. You’re IQ is so high it’s almost in the double digits

@TommyTombstone

Ай бұрын

@@geekswithfeet9137 *your

My dude. I make cool whip regularly. Sugar in blender = confectioners sugar Confectioners sugar + whipping cream + vanilla extract = cool whip

@cl4rkj0hns0n1

Ай бұрын

It's fear mongering for the plebs that have 0 clue how food is made. They are in the realm of conspiracy theories if they think food isn't well regulated.

@susanpendell4215

Ай бұрын

Read the labels of what is sold in the store by the same name.

@icestationzebraassociates2460

Ай бұрын

You're making flavored whip cream. That's not cool whip lol

@donkkonk6197

Ай бұрын

that is not cool whip, thats whipped cream. Cool whip is a vegetable oil based product

"What's the difference?" "Good question. I made that shit up."

I love his explanation and the fact that he had one when asked. To many people use buzz words they aren’t familiar with and back themselves into a corner.

So ultra processed is just inventing a new phrase for what everyone else more succinctly calls processed

@SingleMost

Ай бұрын

no

@shadowbandit3975

Ай бұрын

Ummm no. Did you not just watch the distinction or are you stupid?

@kongjie74

Ай бұрын

Processed means things like ham or bread. Ultra processed refers to specific extra steps beyond regular processing, but it doesn't always automatically mean unhealthy since even prepared foods are considered ultra processed. Unfortunately Dr.Peterson has allowed a propagandist on his show.

I love that you can eat it even tho they are not edible

@TakGalen

Ай бұрын

If you can eat it, it's edible If you can drink it, it's potable Neither of these means you can digest it.

@christopherk396

Ай бұрын

You can eat anything you want, doesn't make it edible. Coolant isn't edible, but I really wish you'd give it a try sometime just to prove me wrong.

@christopherk396

Ай бұрын

​​​@@TakGalenthe definition of edible is "fit or suitable to be eaten." So anything that doesn't meet this, even though it can be ingested/eaten can be accurately deemed inedible.

@TakGalen

Ай бұрын

@@christopherk396 From the Cambridge Dictionary edible noun [ C ] US/ˈed.ə.bəl/ UK/ˈed.ə.bəl/ something you can eat; a food

@strav8337

18 күн бұрын

@@TakGalenyou can obviously digest the food if you’re gaining calories from it.

Protein powder is an ultra processed food. Most supplements are as well. Not all ultra processed foods are created equal.

The sign of a true acedemic: ask questions even on subjects you are not overly familular with

So based on this definition, 15 years ago, freeze-dried apples were ultra-processed because you couldn't make them in your own kitchen if you tried. Now, they sell freeze-dryer units for home, so today, if you freeze-dry apples at home they are NOT ultra-processed 😂

@strav8337

18 күн бұрын

It means ingredients not just a process its made by. You could get apples relatively easy so by this guys definition it wouldn’t have been ultra processed. Its pretty simple logic but also ineffective if you take it at face value since someone could easily buy the ingredients they would consider unhealthy and processed.

It's too bad all the real food tastes so bad. Guess I'll die happy eating ultra processed food.

@TommyTombstone

Ай бұрын

This is the saddest thing I've heard a human being say all month.

@strav8337

18 күн бұрын

You have never tasted all the real foods in all the different ways they could possibly be made. Eat however you wish but be honest with the reasoning for why you do the things you do. Plenty of healthy foods can taste good if you know how to cook or just buy good tasting fruits. Its not cause real foods taste bad its because its easier and no risk to make a box of mac and cheese than cooking a steak. Theres always gonna be risks in getting “real foods” such as them being underripe overripe you not eating them fast enough or messing something up. But if your health is actually important to you then you will have to just accept the failures learn from them and try again. If you are happy living the way you do then continue but it doesnt seem like you are based off this comment seeming as if you are giving up trying to eat healthier.

I heard the term “food like substances” many years ago, and it completely changed the way that I looked at the grocery store

Food smugness! Lol fn luv it. Nothin says upperclass like the food snobs! Looking forward to the crazy extremes this will go to.

Stabilized Whipped Cream is easy to make, gelatin-free, and perfect to use for a variety of desserts. It holds its' shape well, has a rich, creamy taste, and is a great alternative for Cool Whip in many recipes. I´d wish mr. peterson had let the man speak out his own sentence.... food like products that involves ....

@Jesuslovesyou8525

Ай бұрын

The best homemade stabilized whipped cream has gelatin in it

You can make cool whip at home

@tp.blizzard

Ай бұрын

You can make something similar to it but not exactly. The chemicals they pit directly into it aren't readily available to the everyday consumer

@apertureonline9566

Ай бұрын

@@tp.blizzard sodium caseinate?

@ryantogo8359

Ай бұрын

​@@apertureonline9566dur the durrrr?

@LeDelan13

Ай бұрын

It’s a synthetic substitute for whipped cream. It does not require physical whipping and can maintain its texture without melting over time. If you do whipped cream ar home it doesn’t stay like that for long. I don’t know what exacrly they put in it but it’s definitely not something you have in your kitchen drawer.

@apertureonline9566

Ай бұрын

@LeDelan13 it's sodium caseinate, that was my point. I mean you can easily buy it, casein is almost exactly the same.

We need to be able to define it better than that if we are gonna be using the term everywhere…

Lad did good to pull that genuine laugh from JBP.

They didn't address the danger of ultra processed food. Science please, not just opinions.

@picardcook7569

Ай бұрын

science from peterson? that's asking a bit much

@troyhenry6111

Ай бұрын

​@picardcook7569 no it isnt. He does science and often. Just not in all topics such as philosophy because (big shocker here) philosophy isn't part of science

@picardcook7569

Ай бұрын

@@troyhenry6111 uh, no. you literally could not be more wrong

@troyhenry6111

Ай бұрын

@@picardcook7569 prove it

@zerk813

Ай бұрын

@@picardcook7569I have seen this man dive more deeper into the Phycological and Neurological science topics than any person in the mainstream public sphere. I mean his whole caricature is that he has a study or thesis on any topic he covers. Not to mention the people he brings on are often people in their scientific fields with published and peer review work. I mean what more could he do? Publish work on every publicly debated topic?

Great explanation

Explaining the definition of a term and how it was used/who coined it etc, is very important. Thank you

The aerosol can and the name reddi whip made me think it was the worse option but later discovered cool whip was the real imposter.

Apple juice, wine, beer, and milk are by his definition, ultra processed. Who has access to a Pasteurizer, a clarifying filter, or homogenizer? Many government regulations mandate such processing.

@mrmoosetachio

Ай бұрын

Do you need it spelled out for you to understand? Or are you capable of understanding the intent of the conversation without every minor detail and potential exception to the over arching point being touched on?

@Schoolship.

Ай бұрын

I agree. Governments should stay out of economies. Food would be much more nutritious.

@libtardslayer3048

Ай бұрын

@@Schoolship. But also could be dangerous.

@Schoolship.

Ай бұрын

@@libtardslayer3048 give me liberty, or give me death.

@Situtlab

Ай бұрын

@@Schoolship. that isn’t true. The companies that make the food like products would cut corners on safe practices and people would get sick and or die. It’s what happened before food regulation. The point that you highlighted was government control in what you can and cannot consume.

that sh!t is brilliant

I just eat whatever doesn't upset my stomach... Some food that isn't processed at all hurts my stomach, and some "ultra processed" food makes me feel great.

"Food you couldn't make in your kitchen if you tried" needs wayyy more attention. So good.

This is just fueling this weird belief that these things aren't food. This is the same as being a flat earther

The loop happens so subtly, it looks like a conversation between two people with really bad short term memory.

The right side of this dude is processed, and the left side is ultra-processed.

That's why I always liked the expression "fast food". In Germany, "fast" also exists as a word, just pronounced slightly different (short 'a') and it means "nearly". Gives "fast food" the proper association. ;-)

Peterson wearing a pinstripe suit that reads, "Clean your room"

It was a fantastic question and answered BEAUTIFULLY

Someone tell him that cool whip is completely doable with a whisk.

I love how you can tell that Jordan Peterson is always engaged in a conversation and asks key questions to improve his understanding.

"If you can't make it in the kitchen" is a wide gray area. If you have an instant pot, a dehydrator and some other knickknacks and gadgets, you can tap into some production technologies. Like im playing with deli meats... i haven't made mortadella yet, but im not far. Also those flavour enhancers like vegeta that you're convinced is plastic? Easy peasy! Salt, basic aromatic veggies and others that are heavy on the umami

Love when Jordan can’t let someone talk 😂😂

It's basically foods where they have added something, which 9/10 is something that harms your body.

I can make cool whip at home. All the ingredients are quite easy to get ahold of. Its just the measurments of them thats tricky.

He should have elaborate on NOVA/CIGA classification and the food matrix in order to explain "processed food"

Out of all the foods you couldn't possibly make in your own kitchen, cool whip is a ridiculous example.😂

Cool Whip is really easy to make in the kitchen, a better example is Cheese Wizz

When I was a chef I explained to my co workers how our Japanese food was different than things you buy at a store. Because it’s all based on ingredients that were available to the Japanese and you could have made 500 years ago. Something like a Cheeto or a snickers is like a drug because it takes all of these complex ingredients from all over the world and combines it in a way where you literally would need a laboratory to make it yourself. To make a snickers you would need cacao from Africa, peanuts from Asia, caramel from Europe. It’s something that would have never existed 500 years ago.

This is so crazy. I’m Glad this man knows all the answers.

The dialogue here is so refreshing. Just two dudes chatting it up.

A lot of people think not adding chemicals makes the food pretty much healthy, but the problem is that chopping, blending, grinding etc. can still damage the cellular structures and cause free sugars to proliferate. Just making a fruit smoothie at home does this.

We went from (processed)butter to (more processed) margarine to (ultra processed) “product for bread”, which is total crap. Now we went back to butter.

@fieserfettsack8726

Ай бұрын

Butter isn't processed much though and margarine is an entirely different product made from some kind of seed oil that was made during wartime to get soldiers a cheap spread for their bread that wont spoil as quickly

My kids have never eaten Cool Whip. I try not to feed them things bugs won’t eat.

@Teirmz

Ай бұрын

Why don't you feed them only things that bugs will eat. Seems like the healthiest alternative.

@samuelgulizia7711

Ай бұрын

You should put them on the dung beetle diet

And the items that aren’t processed or ultra processed are called “organic” produce, yet their seeds are pumped with growth hormones. Fun fact: all corn in the US is genetically modified.

@Teirmz

Ай бұрын

Y'know a common theory of bananas (a fruit that doesn't have seeds) is that thousands of years ago it was genetically modified. Which isn't as scary as you think it sounds.

@Annacfk13

Ай бұрын

@@Teirmz I’m sure that could be a theory, but I would say it’s incorrect. Bananas don’t have plantable/propagative seeds but banana trees can grow, reproduce and multiply via their roots - which is how you can propagate banana trees. Essentially the little tiny black dots in the center are banana seeds, but they’re “premature” and cannot be planted because they’re so soft and can be digested easily. So based on that alone, I wouldn’t believe bananas to have been “genetically modified” - maybe cross contamination when planted near something else, creating a whole new tree (what we know as a banana tree) could have occurred to change the color or taste possibly. I’d believe that. But what we know as “genetically modified foods” goes way beyond cross contamination and accidental creation.

@jkorok6357

Ай бұрын

​@@Annacfk13 look up "Big Mike banana". Humans have been genetically modifying fruit and animals for thousands of years. Potatoes didn't exist 300 years ago, not the way they are today anyways.

When JP said cool whip I went "Sh*t, what is it even?"

You can make cool whip in your kitchen easily. I’ve done it. It’s called stabilized whipped cream. Glen and friends has a video on how to make it on their KZread channel.

@deborahnagel9011

24 күн бұрын

I don't think its the same thing?

@mixturebeatz

24 күн бұрын

@@deborahnagel9011 what’s the difference between stabilized whip cream and cool whip?