Begs the question, is the internet required for "safety" reasons, or because AI isn't really 'creating' anything at all, but rather, simply needs access to a huge, online library of data (in this case, images) so it can search and find a picture of your tree? Point being, I'm not convinced that AI is 'creating' anything at all. It is simply a glorified search engine that can roughly interpret your request and deliver an already existing image, video or collection of text which best matches your request. I'd wager that if you and I provided similarly rough drawings, on two separate computers, of a "tree in a park", the resultant AI delivered images would be identical. If true, and I believe it is, the 'magic' of AI isn't in "creation", but rather, a fairly complex and, perhaps, better interpretative engine. If I'm correct, AI is effectively reduced to nothing more than 'google on a chip', minus the data source. Take away network access, and the search engine is left with no data source from which to draw. Am I wrong?

I have delayed purchasing by 12 to 18 months until these bugs are ironed out.

@AldoJames

13 күн бұрын

Which brand do you think you'll get? Overall it has been a solid machine and the issue is with Windows not Snapdragon

@Thulebeez

13 күн бұрын

@@AldoJames definitely going with the Surface laptop 7 upgrading form the Surface laptop 3 how I am bumped on the Alcantara being removed on the keyboard ⌨️

Based on your review I am very excited for Windows PCs moving forward. I fit very well into the use case customer for Copilot + PC. And to hear and read the various reviews that say Windows PCs are only going to get better. However, that said. I am going to wait until the Intel (Lunar Lake specifically) AMD base Windows PCs are available and tested. I really look for compatibility as a key criteria over raw performance and battery life. Do not get me wrong here, performance and battery life are important requirements in my selection of a replacement laptop. but so is hardware and software compatibility. After all, it is the reason I prefer Windows over any other computer platform. At the very least Qualcomm has enhanced the competitiveness of Windows hardware options for all consumer and business.

@AldoJames

Күн бұрын

I agree, Qualcomm has pushed the competitiveness of Windows hardware which means in the end we all win.

Its still a huge driver/software issue. I tested my Surface 11 Pro with the Snapdragon Plus with local AI workloads. Llama.cpp (the basis for ollama,…) only runs on the CPU for now, but its very fast. Let‘s see, when we get better drivers,… - a lot of the Snapdragon Android work could be re-used. Most people forget, that its GPU/NPU roots also are in tablets/phones.

Interesting how the GPU shows as X Plus while the NPU shows as X Elite.

@AldoJames

13 күн бұрын

:O I didn't even notice that! Maybe the Plus is just a binned version of the Elite?

My biggest issue is price. ARM shoukd be cheap, Or so I thought.

@AldoJames

13 күн бұрын

Compared to Intel ARM is definitely cheaper, don't forget these are the first and most premium devices so you should see more options and lower price points as more manufacturers create ARM PCs

There are more problems with the Snapdragon chips, its wide known. I'm tired of repeating myself. Don't buy until it matures, at least one year from now. Gpu drivers are messed up, drivers for external devices usb are not working properly, and prism emulator is not that compatible to run x86 apps, regular apps as MS promised, and games are even broken. Wait until they fix their mess.

I gave a thumbs up for demonstrating the NPU usage, which I hadn't seen yet. Thank you. A laptop is a mobile device, so an internet connection is essential in many scenarios, so I don't worry about that side. For me, it's only natural that AI (or quite simply any app or service coined `AI') will require net access. Let's be honest, AI isn't some consciousness as companies would like to portray it as being (however cool the demos are), it's just an app or service (or collection of) reaching out and piecing stuff together to satisfy the end user. I'm excited about the benefits of AI, but I was also equally excited about Cortana a few years back, too. The only thing I dislike about the concept of AI, is how fake the world of creation is becoming. Give me an AI assistant that can demonstrate experience, heart, passion, devotion and accuracy to a topic. I won't hold my breath. We are watching you AI! Don't let us down!

you bought pc that will run only windows bare metal? lol. i only run windows in a vm. i might use MS AI agents. Its just they will run in a vm