The Iron Wire Fist of Hung Gar - Kung Fu of Hong Kong ep2
In this episode, Damien @KungFit and I head to the Martial Club to talk to Master Mak Che Kung and find out more about the Hung Gar system, and especially its renowned form Iron Wire Fist.
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Mak Sifu regularly hosts Hung Gar webinars, which you can find at facebook.com/martialclub.kf .
@winfieldjay2324
7 ай бұрын
Tit Sin Kuen was incorporated into Hung Gar training by Grandmaster Wong Fei Hung after he learned it from Lam Fook Sing, a student of Tit Kiu Sam. Training with Tit Sin Kuen set improves blood circulation, enhances deep breathing, invigorating the internal organs and promotes the development of internal energy, or Ch'i, necessary further advancement in martial arts. "Shaolin Kung Fu is the best, both the Northern and Southern they both have equal merits."
@PaMuShin
7 ай бұрын
@@winfieldjay2324 for non monks or non physicians shaolin styles are often worthless cause there the mental concepts behind it are lacking. this teacher is doing pretty good in trying to bridge it in a half decent way, not many people are willing to get into the whole scope, maybe one of the reasons bruce lee went from tai chi to hung gar to end up in wing chun
@PaMuShin
7 ай бұрын
then comes hung gar is very compact, there are enormous range of concepts and applications in relatively small 4 forms, this needs lots of study and dedication. sometimes sad the we do not have so much footage on wong fei hung and lam sai wing as today are available on karate. i can imagine this had many people impressed
@jamesfrankiewicz5768
6 ай бұрын
@@PaMuShin We don't even have any photos of Wong Fei Hung. The one simple portrait photo that was thought to be him was later to be confirmed by his descendants to be a photo of his son (who was said to be a spitting image of his father, hence the confusion). Lam Sai Wing did produce some photographic manuals with himself performing the forms (of which there were also less expensive versions that replaced the photos with drawings); you can still buy modern facsimiles of both versions of these manuals.
@winfieldjay2324
6 ай бұрын
Check it out I need that soundtrack. I'm not going to lie watching Mak Sifu performing Tit Sin Kuen and hearing that soundtrack brought tears to my eyes. Who, What, Where can I get all those tones? Breathe in, Rest sent chills through me.
Mak Sifu is one of the most knowledgeable yet underrated Chinese martial arts masters alive today. He deserves so much more exposure. 👏👏👏
@patricks8364
7 ай бұрын
He is too thin.
@grounddragonmartialarts
7 ай бұрын
@@patricks8364 lol 🤦♂️
@TheBeylogan
7 ай бұрын
We have tried feeding him more, with no apparent result... @@patricks8364
@GothamKnight84661
7 ай бұрын
@@patricks8364 And?? you're so far. He can knock you back into your mother's womb!
@crazyhorse3344
6 ай бұрын
He is much more muscular than Yip man
What this comment section really needs is more people complaining about the sound quality on this fascinating and informative film that its makers have released for free.
@KungFit
7 ай бұрын
I know, it's so awful right? 😛
This master's instruction for the Iron Wire form is better than any instructional video.
The Master's comparison of small movements versus large movements was highly enlightening. As a stick fighter I learned how to more effectively use the different ranges of personal combat. Thank you very much!
Mak Sifu is a living treasure! Glad to see more and more people meet him and share his lessons!!! Thanks for another great video!
I loved watching Mak Sifu's breathing and posture taolu. You can really see all the distinct elements clearly. Real skill. I thought the fact that he can outline the strengths and weaknesses of the regional styles was refreshing to hear from a traditional Chinese sifu.
This is great stuff, I lived and practiced martial arts in HK for over a decade but this brought new stuff to me. Kowloon Park in Tsim Sha Tsui is a very common place for teachers to meet with their students especially if they do not have a Kwoon of their own. To a lesser extent Victoria park in Causeway bay serves the same purpose. In addition to Hung Gar, Wing Chun, and Choy Li Fut there is a big Tang Lang (praying mantis ) community beyond Chow gar southern mantis, with Lam Kam Wing's students (7 star mantis) and the students of Chiu Chuk Kai (Tai Chi mantis) being notable. I hope you get to cover these in detail in future. Keep up the great work in spreading the history and traditions of Kungfu. I think also its a record to have 9 comments on traditional martial arts without some one asking "but could you use it for MMA tournaments". Looks like your audience is educated to understand that Kungfu is more than about who can beat who up in the ring. It's about traditions, respect, self discipline, and about preserving something larger than yourself so that these things can continue, and be preserved to help future generations find their way. Respect to all.
@MonkeyStealsPeach
7 ай бұрын
Haha, yes those MMA comments are tiresome. Luckily we have a good community here
@stevebrindle1724
6 ай бұрын
@@MonkeyStealsPeach Yes but does it work? 😀
Mak Sifu is on point about the importance and the tragic lost of emphasis on solid stances in today's traditional Kung Fu!! A good solid base stance (really "sitting" on your center of gravity) and a smooth transition into another stance in motion to aid any upper body movement is pivotal to all Southern Styles Kung Fu (or just in any combat sports!)
@KungFit
7 ай бұрын
Totally. Always used to annoy me seeing people with bad stances score highly at competitions just because their upper body looked good
@junodonatus4906
5 ай бұрын
@@KungFit Likewise, I hate seeing people learn more and more forms and advance in rank with no mastery or grasp of basics. This includes stances or application of movements.
Dude!! Are u kidding me?!?!?! 😲 This episode is LIT ON FIRE!!🔥🔥🔥. Never have I seen before such a clear indication of the internal aspect embedded in Hun Gar, being so categorically demonstrated! Amazing job!! Keep on the good work!!!
@MonkeyStealsPeach
7 ай бұрын
That’s great feedback, thanks!
@KungFit
7 ай бұрын
Thanks! 😁
This Gentleman is a treasure, many thanks for this wonderful video ❤
Relaxation at the right time, tension at the right time, and breathing! The keys to all martial arts! (By the way, we can see here where Sanchin Kata in Goju came from I believe!)
@MonkeyStealsPeach
6 ай бұрын
Sanchin Kata in Goju came from White Crane Kung Fu. Take a look at my Fujian series if you are interested to know more about that
nice to see internal details in his iron wire set very original , quite rare to find someone like this
Excellent video man!, thanks a ton for sharing!, I've been practicing Northern Shaolin for 16 years now, and my Sifu started teaching me Hung Gar in 2020, this was very helpful and Mak Che kong is a great teacher!, can't wait for the next one and hope to see some Bei Shaolin on your channel some day!, keep it up! your work is not only important for preservation but for learning too, thanks a ton!
Mal sifu used the correct term to explain, using 'rest' or relaxed instead of soft.
I liked the Hunyuan Taiji guy, you were spot on!
Kind of off topic, but I really like the (Enter the Dragon) style Hong Kong skyline intro from the latest videos 👍That was always such a cool shot from that movie, and I know other films have imitated it since, like Rush Hour 2.
@MonkeyStealsPeach
7 ай бұрын
Woohoo! Finally someone noticed our intro!!!
A lot of great memories here. Watching Kung Fu Corner in Kowloon Park would be a great way to spend Sunday afternoons. Nice to see it’s maintained. Mak Sifu’s explanation on Hung Gar’s history was excellent. I knew that the hand signs were linked to anti-Qing but to see the explanations, that was cool. Mak Sifu’s discussion on how training in long movements coild be used in short movements and the importance of stances were also enlightening. Looking forward to the next episodes!
Thanks for this video. This ep. is really a treasure !
@KungFit
7 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
One of my favourite kung fu master is wong fei hung 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
Great episode as ever, Mak Sifu is very knowledgeable. Also a student of Hung Ga, Tang Fong lineage, Iron Wire is my favourite set too
Thanks for this great footage. There is so much to learn from this generation of masters.
Mak Sifu! Such an amazing talent. I'm also so delighted to hear him talk about the "Hung Mun" hand gesture and how it came from Wong Fei Hung and Tibetan White Crane/Haap Gar. As a practitioner, it great to see the acknowledgment and relationship between Hung Gar and Tibetan White Crane/Haap Gar.
Master Mak is outstanding, very clearly demonstrated and explained the deeper aspects/essence of kungfu. Thanks for searching out these masters and interviewing them for their knowledge, skills and experience. Cheers.
I spotted what Daren Yee has been talking about - there is indeed a strong connection between Uechi Ryu Karate and Hung Gar. It was almost startling to see things from the preparatory exercises coming directly from Iron Wire.
Thanks! Keep em' coming! I'm really enjoying these!
@MonkeyStealsPeach
7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for supporting!
Excellent vid. Also, Bruce Lee saw the benefit of altering the stance in order to be more stable and ready to transition if needed, as compared with the wing chun type stance with the legs side-by side and bent knees. So basically, evolution. Taking what is ultra effective already and evolving it more.
Efforts are highly appreciated
This is good material being that it's primarily focused on the application of concepts.
It's wonderful that you're profiling the southern schools, I've been a member of Fu Jow Pai 虎爪派 since 1996. 虎爪派 Fu Jow Pai's main system is Hark Fu Moon 黑虎門 but it's a close relative of the Hung Ga system and incorporates several forms such as the Tiger-Crane 虎鶴雙形拳 form and the Taming the Tiger 工字伏虎拳 form. Also, Wong Kei-ying, father of Wong Fei-hung is in our direct lineage. We also incorporate forms from Mizongyi, so I'll look forward to your next video.
@MonkeyStealsPeach
7 ай бұрын
Nice! You’re gonna see a lot of familiar stuff in the next episode too then!
Good to see some Jow Gar performance! I started my martial arts journey with Jow Gar (that was the style my dad used to do when he was young!!)
Like the way Sifu, explains tension/relax, between movements ❤this segment should be seen by all Hung practioners! Thanks Sifu, Sir 🎉😊
An excellent teacher, dynamic .! Thanks a lot for this video
This is GOLD
Very high level and great knowledge ! You can hear that this master has been doing a lot of research and he just shares his knowledge publicly with so much humility ! Great man !!!
great mate, really quality content.....I really like sifu Mak.
@KungFit
7 ай бұрын
Thanks 😁
Well done. Respect to Mak Sifu
Great sharing. I love it.
Thanks for the wonderful documentary.
Nice emphasis on yin/yang - open/closed ---- down/up --- bridge hard/soft etc
Thanks! - lovely episode with great handling and super nice Mak Sifu.
Mak Sifu is THE MAN. We gotta keep that straight.
Very interesting, so many similarities with wing chun. The tui shou he showed at the start was very similar to dan chi, aside from the similarities in the forms he showed later. Great one 👍
First of all, I'm glad you had the opportunity to meet/learn from Mak Chi Kung Sifu. Secondly, I was Very Happy to see this system that I practice/promote here in America, that being the Jow Ga/Chau Ga system when you showed different styles at the "Kung Fu Corner" such as Bak Sing Choy Li Fut, Bok Hok Pai and a few others. Thirdly, should you wish to find out more about the Jow Ga/Chau Ga system, I suggest you visit the World Jow Ga Kung Fu Athletic Lion and Dragon Dance Association located on the Kowloon side of Hong Kong, in an area called Kennedy Town. Reach Out to the Chairman Keith Shek (Shek Ka Kit) or the Headmaster Ho Kim Hung Sifu. If you mention my name, especially with Keith Shek I'm sure they would be happy to meet with you. Ronald Wheeler Jow Ga. Washington DC
@MonkeyStealsPeach
7 ай бұрын
Thanks Ronald, I was in HK in September, but will be sure to look them up next time
@ronaldwheeler1153
7 ай бұрын
@@MonkeyStealsPeach Absolutely ‼️ And if you ever decide to come to the State's, you may want to interview the legends that kept CMA's Alive in this Country, me such as Dennis Brown, Tayari Casel, Raul Ortiz and many other's. if you get time, please check out my book on the Jow Ga system titled "The Power of Shaolin Kung Fu" by Tuttle Publishing. I had direct authorization by our late Grandmaster Chan Man Cheung before he passed away in 2014. Keep Up the Outstanding Work ‼️👍
@MonkeyStealsPeach
7 ай бұрын
I’ll have a look for your book! And yes, I’d love to do a trip to the States sometime and look at how Kung Fu came to America
Wonderful work and production as always. Thank you
Thank you sir
I think the master here makes a really good point. Mainly in pointing out the need to train a larger range of motion in order to develop power. In the Shaolin kung fu I learned from Wu Nanfang of the Wu Gulun branch, the foundations essentially focus on building up the range of motion of the torso. Essentially, the greater the range of your torso movement, the greater the power. The limbs don't need to make big movements to generate more power, but the body does. Big movements of the limbs may be helpful at a certain stage as they may help your attention to develop towards the body movement. Having big limb movements and no torso movement would not be good though in this school of thought. Ideally, the limb movements become minimal and more precise while the torso movement becomes larger and more agile. This is my understanding, thanks.
@KungFit
7 ай бұрын
Totally, I always say starting with ma bu to gong bu punches makes learning a cross much easier and helps you develop more power. People say I punch harder than expected for my weight, and I put that down to my traditional training.
the old chinese sifu is small, skinny and seemingly mild. never judge a book by its cover though. my guess is he is as quick and accurate as a wasp. much more dangerous than he seems.
Yip man also was a great kung fu master later came to Hong Kong. So can you please do a video on yip man Wing chun, currently preserved by grandmaster Samuel kwok, ip chun and our association 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️
Really like the details explained: breathing, inhaling, exhaling, relax…you don’t see this often. Is Mak Sifu, Lam Family? I recognize the fu hok diamond logo
@MonkeyStealsPeach
6 ай бұрын
Yes, I think Lam Family
I had no idea there were so mamy styles featured in Kung Fu Corner, that's awesome! I'll have to go check it out later
@KungFit
7 ай бұрын
Yeah it's a really great event. I think it is different people each time too, though obviously some are regulars 🙂
@jma1987
7 ай бұрын
A lot of respect for all the Kung Fu practitioners performing their art at Kung Fu Corner every weekend! Damien and Will are also true Kung Fu enthusiasts! To stay there and film that many demonstrations is not easy, it's always hot, humid, sunny with a lot of mosquitos at that time of the day. Kudos to you guys!
@KungFit
7 ай бұрын
@@jma1987 thanks! We got there early to get prime seats, and stayed through to the end to see everything. It was really interesting to see the different styles I didn't know much about and different expressions of ones I did. One teacher particularly impressed us, and for a style we hadn't lined up an interview for, so we approached him at the end. Unfortunately our schedules didn't line up. Maybe next time!
Great episode
This was very interesting and an excellent display of knowledge, mak sifu was 100% correct about stances and how they have become lost or diluted. Tetsuhiro hokama 10th dan in goju ryu has said simillar ideas. Thank you for bringing kung fu history to martial artists who actually appreciate knowledge and history
Awesome video!
Very interesting. Many thanks :)
Really eye pleasure!
So Hung Gar is where Sanchin kata comes from. It's unmistakable.
@MonkeyStealsPeach
3 ай бұрын
Hey if you’re interested in the origins of Sanchin, you should check out my Fujian series that I did with Jesse Enkamp
@brianquint6126
3 ай бұрын
@@MonkeyStealsPeach That's how I found you!
This is like Qigong set
So I love yal cuz yal my people
Good stuff. Taichi has same breathing almost
Great episode! Unfortunately, the audio quality was not the best, I usually understand pretty well (in spite of english not being by first language, nor mandarim or cantonese), but I struggle with this one. Maybe adding english subtitles to the video??
@MonkeyStealsPeach
7 ай бұрын
Yea sorry about that, had issues with the background noise
I miss him. I dressed up as a Scottish man in the Irish pub on Nathan Road. Yes, his Kung Fu is very good; but my comedy is FEARLESS!
Just a question, wasn’t it Lam Sai Wing that was a famous kung fu man, and if it wasn’t for him, bringing his teacher forward, Wong fei hung would never have been known?
need Iron Thread 🧵☯️
Por que você NÃO treina????? De passagem pelo canal Funciona numa briga de rua????
He looks very strong
Is there the Southern Eagle Claws? Is Sifu Lily Lau's Eagle Claws style North or South branch?
@MonkeyStealsPeach
7 ай бұрын
There is a southern Eagle style in Taiwan
@Gieszkanne
7 ай бұрын
Lily Lau is northern Eagle Claw.
@joaovermelho0084
7 ай бұрын
@@Gieszkanne Thanks!
@HienTamNguyen-ly9ry
7 ай бұрын
I'm not sure but I think EAGLE CLAW isn't NORTHERN STYLE! My information is the so called "POINT FIST STYLES" Like EAGLE CLAW, TIGER CLAW etc. are"HAKKANESE ORGIN"! And the "THE HAKKAS lives in the south of China! Between the Border of Vietnam and the GUANGDONG PROVINCE aka CANTON! So it's ORIGIN has to be from the "SOUTHERN STYLES"!!!
@MonkeyStealsPeach
7 ай бұрын
The Eagle Claw shown in this demo is a northern style derived from Fanzi Quan, which is from Cangzhou county in Hebei province. It's different to the Golden Eagle Fist practiced by Hakka people in Taiwan@@HienTamNguyen-ly9ry
King Fu fighter only learn how to beat opponents. They never learn how to be beaten by the opponents and how to withstand those attacking power. King Fu fighters think that only they can beat the wooden post , all opponents only standing and let them punch. Unique fighting controlled by them.
The only dude in the demos that might hurt you is the guy with the sword because he might accidentally hits you with the edge while he’s swinging wildly!
I've learned hung kuen in such a way that classes in the beginning were 1h conditioning, 1/2h techniques, 1/2h stances, after years, conditioning time decreased, combat was very prevalent. most of the ideas of applications showed in the video are unrealistic, because i bet they dont fight, only train forms like robots, and repeating patterns.
Choy lee fut hung gar 🇨🇱
that first guy looks Hung-ga-ree
Practicing for a dance competition?
🤣
Some.of.his.move.look.like Wing.chun.not.a.lot.but.some❤
More dancing than fighting, easy to say than real fighting,😂
師父還是老當益壯大
🛐🔝☯☯☯
☠️ 😂😂😂 💀
Hard to hear you
@MonkeyStealsPeach
7 ай бұрын
Yea we had some issues with audio due to the background noise. Sorry about that
@charlesdacosta2446
7 ай бұрын
@@MonkeyStealsPeach Still, keep up the work! I wish I was like you (putting all your experiences on KZread). I am even on my way to Hong Kong to train for a month. I have been in this stuff since the mid-70s and I can't even create a school, so I am very happy to see you make good use of what you are learning.
@MonkeyStealsPeach
7 ай бұрын
That’s awesome, who will you train with?
@charlesdacosta2446
7 ай бұрын
@@MonkeyStealsPeach I train Pak Hok Pai. I am under the Late Ngai Yuk Tong's (倪沃棠) line via students of the Late Ho Tung Ping (何東炳). My direct sifu is a retired professor, Kwon Yu Chan. So I spend most of my time training with his training brothers, including my Sigong's middle son.
@charlesdacosta2446
7 ай бұрын
Wait, Are you in Hong Kong? if so, will you be there after the 17 of Nov.?
Actually i rather connect the form with chiu chi ling
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I love Kung Fu when its done by proficient masters,, alot of the people in this video are less than proficient. some demonstrators are to stiff, some dont display good posture and look sloppy, some look like they are proforming a pretty dance that- looks as if,, it has nothing to do with combat related martial art.
铁线拳
Very nice! Sound from 9:34-14:40 was very bad. I couldnt understand what you or he said. Also the music was annoying.
@MonkeyStealsPeach
7 ай бұрын
Sorry about that, we had problems with the background noise and we tried to clean it up as best we could….
It's showing can't fighting
Каратист,чёрный пояс восстанавливает после инсульта.Пртглашаю для симметрии?Молдова.
Trying to make soft to hard or relaxed to unrelaxed is ridiculous. It’s just about efficient movement. Every martial art does the same thing otherwise you punches would be slow. Boxer are probably the best there is it that. It’s like a comedy skit!
The drumming in the background spoils the audio of the translation.
@MonkeyStealsPeach
7 ай бұрын
Yea sorry about that. There was so much background noise it was hard to clean up the audio
@KungFit
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, multiple fans and metal ceilings and floors didn't make for a great audio environment. But it was super hot in Hong Kong at that point
The complete knowledge of Hung Gar’s Iron wire form is with Grandmaster Lam Chun Sing is the one who inherited the complete and correct techniques from his own father Sigung Lam Cho, that truthfully kept only in his blood family descendent. There’s no argument about that because the “truth is always the truth”.
@MonkeyStealsPeach
7 ай бұрын
Yay! I love martial politics
@danielsguitars1659
7 ай бұрын
@@MonkeyStealsPeachcouldn't agree more, just practice and be nice to each other, I hate that mentality.
that leopard paws is not going to do anything I got in to a disagreement with my Sifu about this useless move. You can even look at it and tell that it has no meaning. Like Bruce Lee said if it is useless get rid of it.
Seems everything is “lost” and only this master has/knows it. Geez.
Absolutely fantasy based art. Nearly zero use for actual fighting. None of these folks train against resisting opponents. Great exercise though!
Kung fu này dưỡng sinh rất tốt cho người cao tuổi.