o7 this video is officially just history as of july 7th 2022 www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=140004 ---- companion video, comparing the different demoman weapons: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fnV1tNGagqXYnMo.html acknowledgement: i made the extra video because it was something i could do while i was already analyzing the way demo projectiles were fired, but i understand that it might not be particularly good for benchmarking / technical analysis. i might make something deliberately catered to that later, but i'm just saying - yeah sorry i didn't put much thought into it, and didn't intend for it to be a super deep dissection of every projectile flight path. bonus thoughts: most of my videos are like 3-5 days of research, but i wanted to make sure i didn't publish anything incorrect about the issue, so research ending up taking about 12 days. genuinely the most exhausting video to make, so far on this channel. hope it was worth it!

@Kiraticaa

3 жыл бұрын

a

@sef8989

3 жыл бұрын

hi

@JimmehRulez

3 жыл бұрын

Nwifn2uen

@creeperizak8971

3 жыл бұрын

It was VERY worth it, as I'm sure I wasn't the only one curious about this.

@SomeGuy-xv5bw

3 жыл бұрын

I got in a game with you, you won't remember me, but I was there

I feel like the tf2 dev team is just scrolling through shounic’s videos, seeing what bugs there are and exactly how to fix it.

@vadorrodav4370

2 жыл бұрын

At this point shounic should made a video about a glitch for the heavy and then valve would give us the heavy update finally

@yuddpudd

2 жыл бұрын

@@vadorrodav4370 Just be happy that we are getting bug fixes. A fix for Heavy will probably come eventually though.

@1_FLASKFAN

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucas112ful tell me becausei dont understand either

@TheDuckyDino

2 жыл бұрын

You mean the TF2 dev?

@Kanna_Kizuchi

2 жыл бұрын

The Janitor is learning!!

I think we all can agree on one thing after this video... Iron bomber's projectiles need to be *replaced with a train* to make it balanced If not Demoman is totally unplayable

@macrro

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah right? I have 700 hours with the demoman and I can't have shit in-game!!!

@unclegrapes1928

3 жыл бұрын

LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE!!!11!

@nolongerusing7430

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@galffygergojozsef7816

3 жыл бұрын

@Todd Howard it just works

@lisner386

3 жыл бұрын

Are u autistic or something?

I like to imagine that the random velocity applied to each of the launched grenades is just Demoman being drunk

@damianbisha6712

3 жыл бұрын

He is probably loading his own ammo and eyeballs powder amount, can't blame him that every projectile has different umpf if he eyeballs with one eye

@ambi_cc8464

3 жыл бұрын

@LOAN NGUYEN IF HE WAS A BAD DEMOMAN HE WOULDNT BE SITTIN HERE DISCUSSING IT WITH YA NOW WOULD HE

@ambi_cc8464

3 жыл бұрын

@@damianbisha6712 I’d think that red and blu have ammo shipped to them since heavy says it costs 400,000$ to fire his gun for 12 seconds it seems they’re buying their ammo and are aware of it to where they can tell what each cartridge is worth

@the_furry_inside_your_walls639

3 жыл бұрын

@@ambi_cc8464 They get most of their weapons and ammo from Mann Co, IIRC, except for Demo, though. I think he makes his own ammo and collects most of his weapons, especially his swords.

@ambi_cc8464

3 жыл бұрын

@@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 actually in the comics demo gets the eyelander as a gift from Pauling to not be friends with the enemy soldier, in the comics it seems like other than stock Mann co doesn’t really like giving the mercs new weapons

Looking at the release dates of the weapons, we see that the Iron Bomber is the newest primary, and was released alongside the Quickiebomb Launcher in the Smissmas 2014 Update. With that in mind I'd wager that what happened is whoever implemented these weapons started with the Quickie, looked at the implementation of the Scottish Resistance and matched it, and then used that same implementation method on the Iron Bomber. The problems that arise are pretty unobvious, so since there were no massive issues, it passed spec and went into the game.

@thetrashmann8140

3 жыл бұрын

@Justin K

@hotdog2130

3 жыл бұрын

@@thetrashmann8140 K

@shoco462

3 жыл бұрын

@@hotdog2130 K

@timthetomatoman6064

3 жыл бұрын

@@hotdog2130 K

@LunaPhobos

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting speculation. I wonder if Team Comtress 2 has a bugfix for the hitbox of the Iron Bomber. That’d be cool!

A small note: The Loch 'n' Load has an attribute that actually makes it fire with no random projectile deviation which exists on no other weapon.

@ashtongiertz8728

3 жыл бұрын

Probably because it's supposed to be used for taking down sentries from outside their targeting range.

@Jessica-el5yx

3 жыл бұрын

@@ashtongiertz8728 Not necessarily, but it's likely that is the case, perhaps that combined with the fact that the Loch 'n' Load's grenades are deleted after hitting a surface led to the decision to make sure it's less reliant on RNG... If that's the case, I REALLY wish the TF team did stuff with a mindset like that more.

@simonedaishi5290

3 жыл бұрын

the Crutch 'N' Load

@coolmuzt

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jessica-el5yx The weapon for real gamers.

@mlalbaitero

3 жыл бұрын

@@simonedaishi5290 yeah like 6 years ago

The smugness of Stock players just went up by 100% , including mine.

@lemon93

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously did many people really have a hard time hitting stock pills like I'm no where good at the game but I feel like I hit most pills on most classes other then med and scout

@wafflecon6029

3 жыл бұрын

lemon93 I use it for mobility if you time it right you can get some serious distance

@somerandomgamer8504

3 жыл бұрын

I use stock cause I have a strange one but I still get to feel smug

@April_a26

3 жыл бұрын

I don't care, i use the iron bomber because the model looks cooler

@jty9631

3 жыл бұрын

I always used stock because I liked the slightly larger explosion radius and I always fancied myself as someone able to roll pipes far away and towards enemies :p Like I get why people like the iron bomber ones, they stay still so theyre easier to control, but I always figured if I need something to stay still it ought to be a sticky.

Oh, you thought the cannonball was the biggest? What a fool you are. The iron bomber's is bigger! How can it be bigger? What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How can you be so naive? There is no explanation, no source code tweaking or digging is gonna answer that. Come now, lay down your grenade launcher, it is not too late to be part of the meta.

@endorito

3 жыл бұрын

dagoth ur-senpai

@Jakkest

3 жыл бұрын

Based dagoth

@antarct1c279

3 жыл бұрын

Come, Demoman. Friendly or tryhard, come. Come and look upon the Airshots, and Direct Pipes. And bring Iron Bomber... I have need of it. Is this how you honor the Scottish House, and the tribe unsober? Come to me openly, and not by Iron Bomber.

@devinarato69420

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/m4ZhrZSrhbOeZrA.html

@phoss4141

3 жыл бұрын

dagoth ur moment

Map: Has a chokepoint Demomans: 1:09

@enn1924

3 жыл бұрын

Dustbowl in a nutshell

@kormannn1

3 жыл бұрын

Dustbowl is unbeatable with good demoman

@tappajaav

3 жыл бұрын

@@kormannn1 *Laughs in 10 wrangled sentries*

@Agaroth3010

3 жыл бұрын

@@tappajaav If your team has 10 wrangled sentries, then i laugh at 5 uber medics coordinated attack along with 2 spies

@tappajaav

3 жыл бұрын

@@Agaroth3010 Multiple wrangles sentries legit push you back before you can reach last cap point from the choke edit: Dustbowl

5:04 this is the quality content everyone wants

@aetherresonant9079

3 жыл бұрын

indeed

@mariothenonplumber

3 жыл бұрын

indeed

@nolongerusing7430

3 жыл бұрын

indeed

@thesovietduck2121

3 жыл бұрын

indeed

@7monolith215

3 жыл бұрын

indeed

Soooooo, that's why I'm shit with a stock Grenade Launcher and prefer using Iron Bomber. My aim is just shit...

@kingdemomidas2322

3 жыл бұрын

The first step to realizing you have a problem, is accepting that is your own fault. Now you have but to grow. I am proud of you.

@user-st3wx8ck3w

3 жыл бұрын

@@kingdemomidas2322 its more like a personal preference beacause he probably plays more with the iron bomber than stock

@tadziu2400

3 жыл бұрын

Lubie placki:D

@creeperizak8971

3 жыл бұрын

I honestly hit more pipes with stock.

@shpho

3 жыл бұрын

@@tadziu2400 ja też :DDDD

One year from now, the Iron Bomber projectile hitbox size has been fixed, and so now you’re watching history.

bruh why even add random spin to the stock grenade launcher when all the pipes should be coming out the tube straight anyways

@voidnoodle8911

3 жыл бұрын

To simulate wind manipulation, the constant movement of demoman in battle that would, logically, cause the pipe to have some deviance... And also because it looks neat to see flashing, spinning colors.

@gruffgrim5915

3 жыл бұрын

@@voidnoodle8911 but it seems like it has too much spin tbh.

@bugjams

3 жыл бұрын

Who cares? Of all the things to complain about, a spinny projectile is what bothers you?

@Maaar10Avali

3 жыл бұрын

because silly videogame does me a haha

@gruffgrim5915

3 жыл бұрын

@@bugjams someone who's appreciative of detail is who cares

Of course youtube puts this on recommended just a day after it got fixed

@Puppycorn_18

2 жыл бұрын

Ikr

I love the effort you put into this content man, thank you truly.

@jonuhh_

3 жыл бұрын

Hi guys soldier here reminding you if there's a person touching you and you don't like beat the hell out of them

@benvivitron

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks and don't call me Truly.

@ju7904

3 жыл бұрын

breezy breezy Thank you the soldier from the hit class based shooter, Team Fortress 2 (2007)!

@faux2312

3 жыл бұрын

lmao yo sucker what it do

@SuckerTf

3 жыл бұрын

@@faux2312 eyyyy

The Loch 'N Load : "well, guess I'll die"

@axelbenedict3301

3 жыл бұрын

but others wont

@IAm-zo1bo

3 жыл бұрын

@mehdi Haddou i use it because one of the few weapons i bought myself and i love the range

@mr.nazareth4501

3 жыл бұрын

@mehdi Haddou great sentry destroyer, dope for airshots and long range pipe sniping. It's not totally useless ya know

@sleeves2604

3 жыл бұрын

Loch n load's projectile speed also gives you a lot of extra range which negates demoman's downsides. It's way better than you think it is

@ImDelphox

3 жыл бұрын

Instead of just removing the iron bomber's larger pipe hitbox and calling it a day, I think they should move the big hitbox to the loch-n-load. That would make it SO much more viable.

“Wait, it’s just a Stock pipe?” “Always has been.”

@napalmman8202

3 жыл бұрын

Linus The Iron Bomber uses the physics of the normal pipes because the ball moves around too much. So to stop this they made it have a pipe’s physics so it can actually stay in one place on the ground

@manny7289

3 жыл бұрын

@@jfhsdsdd4298 a shitty fucking meme

Well, I can't believe it, but here we are: Fixed the Iron Bomber's projectile collision size not matching other projectile collision sizes

@wombatrepellant9809

2 жыл бұрын

we've come full circle

@vyor8837

2 жыл бұрын

Aaaaand it's still better than stock.

@SU76M

2 жыл бұрын

@@vyor8837 Really? Never died from stock grenades that managed to roll right under your feets?

@vyor8837

2 жыл бұрын

@@SU76M Only as often as the IB's nades doing the same thing. Less often really.

@alaeriia01

Жыл бұрын

Now they need to make the cannonball's projectile collision box slightly bigger because it's a big boi.

"Here is what happens if the Iron Bomber's ball is replaced with a train" This is the content I subscribed for.

Who would've knew KZread's algorithm has some comedic timing

People always told me "Iron bomber doesnt tumble like the stock one" now i feel lied to for like my entire tf2 playtime

@lev7509

3 жыл бұрын

Something people seem to miss is that, despite the "hitbox" being bigger, it is actually only the rough cuboid bounding box. The physics model is actually still the stock pipe. Correct me if I am the moron!

@OffBrandChicken

3 жыл бұрын

@@lev7509 No youre right, the the physics model determined how it moves through the air and bounces off of surfaces. The hitbox (the one that is bigger) is only for detecting when it hits an enemy. So all the pipe movement that people said was benefiting the iron bomber was just a lie and only the hitbox is bigger.

@hobg5786

3 жыл бұрын

ikr? I always used stock because I thought it was so pretentious when people said that. And look where we are now!

@vyor8837

3 жыл бұрын

It doesn't randomly tumble or bounce. It doesn't get the random tumble rule.

@OffBrandChicken

3 жыл бұрын

@@vyor8837 who tf cares about the bounce, if it ain't direct or right next to them, it's useless to me anyway. The only thing the bounce is good for is for the odd angles.

Funny how this shows up in my recommended almost two years after its initial debut...

I guess the source code leak had some benefits after all

@ShadowMarioModder

3 жыл бұрын

It hardly had any downsides

@lol-pi1rt

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShadowMarioModder except giving hackers perfect acces to the game code

@Izzybelled

3 жыл бұрын

@@lol-pi1rt to a version of the game that's several years old and unusable because of the constant updates to the localization files

@samuellinn

3 жыл бұрын

@@lol-pi1rt that was just non sense rumors

@gustavovalverde6226

3 жыл бұрын

@@Izzybelled How much old? Iron boomber is from 2014

The irony of getting recommended this after they made the hitbox smaller is hilarious

Why do I sense a wave of people rushing here after today's update

The accuracy of the Demomen in my team: 6:41 The accuracy of that one Demoman in the enemy team: 5:17

@kannatheweeb8836

3 жыл бұрын

Lol.

@pancakecommanderandbowser2279

3 жыл бұрын

@@kannatheweeb8836 yes lol

@slicedbread3659

3 жыл бұрын

@@kannatheweeb8836 now, another stickmaster in the community. u are everywhere.

@TheGamerQuest100

3 жыл бұрын

No longer have to feel bad for my aiming skill and other Demomans knowing how his weapons work now.

@Niiue

3 жыл бұрын

it do be like that sometimes

I love how KZread recommends me this after the fucking patch

this is why i genuinely love shounic videos, everyone published information on the iron bomber large hit box and everyone was like reee. but shounic goes above and beyond with his research, finding out why it happens and digs up other info. Then presents it in a meaningful way that doesnt seem like a code walk through and attribute list. Well done

@poggyfroggy_isntmine4596

2 жыл бұрын

Not anymore

Funny how KZread now recommended me this

KZread knew about the change and recomended this to us, to remind us what was the glitch.

IT WAS YOU YOU DID ITS YOUR FAULT

@radplung

2 жыл бұрын

@@mana_bahama sobbing.wav

@sunkiimustdie

2 ай бұрын

What did he do

How ironic youtube recommend this to me after the hitbox got fixed.

Well, this is historic

KZread knew what it was doing

As a coder, I'm screaming at how many different ways to do the same thing

after almost 2 years, its finally fixed

5:22 why can't we have this my heart aches

@pankek5431

3 жыл бұрын

*Cough* Loch-n-Load *Cough*

@ashtongiertz8728

3 жыл бұрын

Oh quit your bellyaching. There's no way a drunk scottish cyclops will be able to shoot with pinpoint accuracy.

@caleb_artzs2533

3 жыл бұрын

@@ashtongiertz8728 but at least we can dream 😢😢😢

No wonder b4nny uses this weapon over the normal Grenade Launcher

@archaeologyyy

3 жыл бұрын

its almost a direct upgrade

@dojyaan1590

3 жыл бұрын

@@archaeologyyy correction : it is a direct upgrade

@Turntapp

3 жыл бұрын

just proves the grenade launcher has a higher skill level requirement

@rudolph2937

3 жыл бұрын

Even if it didn't have the bigger hitbox problem, it would still be a direct upgrade, the downsides are negligible

@J4wsh1nAround

3 жыл бұрын

Oh boy don't say that to his face. You'll either get people telling you to go check Habib's Twitch vod or you'll get a eye roll emoji from him

hitbox: get fixed Iron bomber user: *unexists theirselves*

its funny how this gets recommended today

0:04 seconds in and I recognized the cave story music. it's so good ;_;

@keramettingucverir8439

3 жыл бұрын

I can't find music there is no cave story 3d music named requiem

@shi5369

3 жыл бұрын

@@keramettingucverir8439 Good catch! It's actually the song "Hero's End"

@slippintimmy

3 жыл бұрын

@@shi5369 LOL

Its over... We can go home

Well well well what a time for youtube to recommend this video to me

Another bug shown by shounic now gone

New weapon idea: the cannoniers caboose - No random crits + fires trains

@murilo7794

3 жыл бұрын

Perfectly balanced

@M.J44

3 жыл бұрын

Valve at some point was playing with the idea of "one big bomb", and honestly a heavily nerfed version of this (like a singular huge shot) would be excellent. Maybe like a single-load grenade launcher with 3 or 4 spare ammo?

@trevorsamuel1114

3 жыл бұрын

@@M.J44 perhaps.

@jocalodaco

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's balanced!

I feel like we've always felt this but never had proof, its just one of those things.

@ehervo2761

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, a lot of people knew about this, but for some reason now it's getting attention. Same case with the exploiters using cl_interp and lerp

@ausilliam

3 жыл бұрын

@@ehervo2761 Yea your pretty much right

@daxoixes

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

i blame you for this.

@piero9098

2 жыл бұрын

Rip demoman crutch

@REDNDEAD

2 жыл бұрын

i thank him for this.

@pacifistminigun3987

2 жыл бұрын

@@REDNDEAD same

Immediately ran here after they fixed it

Aged like a fine milk. (Context: a patch released on July 7, 2022 that fixed this)

@KitronMK

2 жыл бұрын

no

@hid3n64

2 жыл бұрын

@@KitronMK ?

@ashercd6487

2 жыл бұрын

@@KitronMK yes

The moral of the story? Swap Iron Bomber attribute with the Loose Cannon. E X P A N D D O N K

@joeyjonquantaviusjr9927

2 жыл бұрын

Make All the grenades the size of iron bomber B I G P I P E

@yeet12937

2 жыл бұрын

You can't go wrong if you expand dong - vargskelethor Joel

Nearly two years after this video released, they finally fixed it.

I know I've said it before but god, I love the way you edit. It's just so clean man, I could watch these all day. Keep it up!

I cant believe im saying this. But this has been patched in the latest update

To quote 3kliksphilip: "Valve, pls fix".

@hldelta

3 жыл бұрын

They'll

@n00bsstuff36

3 жыл бұрын

@@hldelta That would imply that valve is gonna acknowledge tf2's existence.

@UNowen255

3 жыл бұрын

i heard this in his voice

@n00bsstuff36

3 жыл бұрын

I stand corrected now

@avr4h

3 жыл бұрын

@@n00bsstuff36 how come? is it fixed?

Ong I can’t believe Shounic would lie to usssss 😭😭😭

"When your pipes are trains, theyre really easy to hit too." You have no buisness saying such rediculous shit so deadpan. Love all the vids!

i just like the look and sound of it, plus the fact that all my "s k i l" plays with the iron bomber is now rendered semi irrelevant makes me a bit sad.

@daxoixes

3 жыл бұрын

i like the iron bomber because of its design and sounds too, but i don't use it because it requires no skill to use and it's not funny to play against and to use, or at least for me.

@daxoixes

3 жыл бұрын

@@kimgkomg yeah sure whatever you say

@readyorgormotti4695

3 жыл бұрын

@@daxoixes Are you... Confusing the Iron Bomber and Loch-n-Load?

@daxoixes

3 жыл бұрын

@@readyorgormotti4695 I think in some cases the loch-n-load can be considered as a crutch tbh, but in the same situations that it can be a crutch the iron bomber is one too and even more. (like making airshots easier)

@bamboo_shoot9262

3 жыл бұрын

It still takes skill to play with any grenade launcher, keep at it! And hey, as long as you’re having fun, who cares?

6:02 I think the randomness about the stickybombs is because of the 'charge' feature, not the physics. Even if you hold down the trigger for half a second, it'll still add a little bit of extra range.

@TheFrantastic

2 жыл бұрын

Would that be mitigated by having a test where they are all fully charged?

yeah but the loose cannon looks cooler

@CEOofPhoneCo

3 жыл бұрын

Tru

@bustoms

3 жыл бұрын

No the iron bomber is the coolest

@pyrenviii3053

3 жыл бұрын

@@bustoms it's a matter of opinion really, I really like how the iron bomber looks, but not only does the loose cannon look great, but it's silliness is what makes me like it, you're shooting cartoon bombs! How can I not like that lol

@CEOofPhoneCo

3 жыл бұрын

And this is how ww3 starts

@bustoms

3 жыл бұрын

@@pyrenviii3053 this is not opinion its objective fact your honor

super impressed by the visuals in all your videos i gotta get on your level man

@nuggetz1570

3 жыл бұрын

It's u

@KidNamedKewlHam

3 жыл бұрын

it's him.

0:48 - The pipe bomb knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation.

@DavidGaming69

6 ай бұрын

what

hilarious how when i fire the loose cannon, most of the time it feels like it doesn't connect with it at all, and now i see how the iron bomber gets dibs on actually being a meaty projectile

@sleepy1066

3 жыл бұрын

Its so frustrating to see a huge ass Canonball be smaller than a tiny ass bouncy ball looking object

@yeet12937

2 жыл бұрын

@@sleepy1066 as a loose cannon user yeah, it kind of is but I'm also glad it isnt like the iron bomber cause then I can actually say I have some skill

"yeah it's just preference between the two" so that was a lie

@daxoixes

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@euugh8877

2 жыл бұрын

No. Im a post iron bomber user. I switched weapons because of rollers. There is preference.

Super well made and greatly explained as all your later videos have been!

If TF3 comes out i just want it to be a remaster of TF2 without the spaghetti code monster Volvo plz fix

@archangel4868

3 жыл бұрын

on a completely separate note, i misread the dnd5e book "volo's guide to monsters" as "volvo's guide to monsters"

@thatguybrody4819

3 жыл бұрын

the spaghetti is what makes the game tasty!

@NoName-fz5ed

3 жыл бұрын

If you play on W10 there’s a newly released version called Comms Fortress 2! Basically a really great coder in the tf2 community completely fixed the tf2 spaghetti and tons of bugs, try it out!

@ombricshalazar3869

3 жыл бұрын

so tf2 without the fun

@cfroi08

3 жыл бұрын

I hope they add more characters with the same hitbox it would be nice to get some new mercenaries in and maybe a 3rd class.

Now I can definitively say, as a Demomain, that the Iron Bomber is indeed a crutch. Also I love the Loose Cannon. It's perhaps the most NORMAL of the launchers.

these videos are so well done! I love your content

thank fuck this is now fixed. still hate the iron bomber. it's still a straight upgrade with super strong benefits, op imo

@nofivefivesevenseven

2 жыл бұрын

eh. i use it and since i cant hit pipes its essentially a downgrade for me since i use the splash damage. but if you can hit the pipes then yeah it seems really good (also you can pipe jump with it really easily and i use it for hybridknight)

"If hitting is sure missing on attack then you must use iron bomber!" Toofy said that! And he knows bombs about more than you do pal because he was using it! Then he bought two of every grenade launcher and then he took them on a itemtest server. And then used the crap out of every grenade launcher. *Giggles* and from that day foward anytime a grenade launcher is used IRON BOMBER IS STILL OP!

@mr.sandwich3824

3 жыл бұрын

Unless it's a loose cannon!

@daxoixes

3 жыл бұрын

This is the best comment in this video by far

@the-lm1ir

3 жыл бұрын

DIO!

@pankek5431

3 жыл бұрын

"And I reckon he knows a little more than you do because he invented it! " -Soldier

@winstonchurchill7822

3 жыл бұрын

I am disgusted by how You butchered that Whole line By missing the point,And Using wrong words To make the joke.

I swear to god Valve is just watching your videos and fixing everything they watch.

Awesome effort! Nice work Shounic

I love, how you edit your videos. Nice work :3

This aged like fine wine

In my opinion the iron bomber’s pipes hitbox was not a problem at all it perfectly fit the size. it’s the other pipes hitboxes that should change to fit their size better.

Really love your vids, they are very interesting!

Amazingly well produced, please know that I deeply appreciate the ease of understanding.

Demomain become soldier main now

as of 7/7/2022 this video is irrelevant as the devs fixed the iron bomber projectile

This editing is REALLY impressive. Inspiring too!

You have really high quality and interesting content, you deserve more subs.

3:45 It's so bizarro seeing the way the sticky bomb shader works so close. The spikes disappear when they're facing you.

the iron bomber HAD a bigger hitbox (& notes on pipe & sticky physics simulations) it is good day, to be not DEAD

Every ones talking about the iron bomber when the Loose cannon's hit box still hasn't been fix yet, lame.

Well, not anymore

LOL patch notes

an outdated tf2 video, how?

the quality of these videos are always so amazing

was waiting for a video on this from an expert like you

I like how the Loch 'n Load is literally just completely forgotten in this video. (As it is IRL.)

Not anymore!

The iron bomber got nerfed

They just fixed it!!!

Coming here to say RIP to the old Iron Bomber

fixed!

the amount of effort you put into your videos is insane

I love you, your videos are amazing

4:53 imagine trying to dodge the iron bomber and the balls move like this

In every shounic video there's at least one funny part. And I believe 6:41 is this video's funny part.

Your graphics are amazingg

We lived up to the moment when it was corrected.