As somebody who has trauma I understand what you mean by finding comfort in chaos over time. I have recently noticed a huge positive shift in my life and mental health and i have found myself so uncomfortable in it because it is so unusual to me. It is shocking, I didn’t realise things were that bad

@baumundallesandere

Жыл бұрын

I am glad to hear about your improvement, good job! Give it time :)

@Biffting93

Жыл бұрын

@@baumundallesandere Thank you

@alicemalice1047

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@caputinodelamour5983

Жыл бұрын

When things gets hard and you don't know what you're supposed to feel or be Traumacore kinda tells you But then you're moving on and you start noticing how terrifying those things are lmao It's kinda sad

@TheInvestmentCircle

Жыл бұрын

What did you do to improve post trauma?

Traumacore is made to be disturbing. For me personally, I went through trauma as a child and traumacore helps me cope and understand that others know how I feel. It makes me feel less alone, ironically even though it has a liminal aesthetic. It reminds me that people understand me and my emotions. It can be harmful and peaceful, it depends on how you use it. Some people use traumacore to sit in their trauma and not cope, only to remember it and not try to move on. However, others like myself use it to cope and understand that others know how we feel. It can be comforting to those who went through trauma. It isn’t an ‘aesthetic’, it is a form of editing and artwork that utilizes other aesthetics to make its own genre of photo editing, like liminal photography.

@TheActualJeffery

Жыл бұрын

Adding onto my own comment. It’s not therapy. It can help people cope, but people cannot get over trauma just using traumacore.

@billblaski9523

Жыл бұрын

I still don't understand what traumacore is

@TheActualJeffery

Жыл бұрын

@@billblaski9523 It’s a piece of art/photographic editing usually people with trauma make to vent out their frustrations and intrusive thoughts, though other people are sometimes comforted by it as well because it shows that they aren’t alone in how they feel.

@homeland1128

Жыл бұрын

as someone who fortunately never went through any traumas as a child i think ppl should allowed to do whatever tf they want as long as it's not hurting anyone anything. including traumacore, but i also do believe trauma core need to be extremely regulated as in not putting them in public/mainstream places on the internet therefore should make something like a community of TC people only so people could post their arts just there without people that has traumas but never know what Trauma Core is before, to be "traumatized again" if you know what i mean. edit: some confusing sentences

@TheActualJeffery

Жыл бұрын

@@homeland1128 Absolutely, having traumacore with specific tags or blogs or warnings should happen. It can hurt people who can’t handle that type of content, or are uncomfortable by it.

this core always felt like a double-edged sword. for me, in middle school through high school I was obsessed with collecting these images, many that reflected trauma I experienced. Its an art that captures the emotions of the few morsels of childhood many can remember. Remembering the aesthetic of childhood- bright colors, toys, birthday parties, playgrounds, but the abuse that seeps in between memories; creating a mental Collage of innocence but something rotten as well. in retrospect, this cope filters the abuse with a childlike aesthetic, to hold onto the colorful side of childhood many of us never could fully enjoy without being hurt or neglected. you approached this respectfully, as it is not all great, creating a mental pattern of framing the abuse as “aesthetic” or “cute”, is not healthy, but a coping mechanism many now have become dependent on or misappropriate it. thank you so much for not shaming us who still use this or have, healing is a journey, with many coping mechanisms, relapses,etc. once again, i appreciate your effort dearly.

@NexLegacyAccount

Жыл бұрын

You described it perfectly. I don't participate in traumacore, but the few images I've come across have evoked those mixed feelings of childhood nostalgia laced with extreme discomfort and pain. It's too triggering for me personally, but I do have a weird sense of respect for the artists who manage to capture those feelings so directly. I hope they all come through whatever they're going through...it's hell, but it can get better.

@shlomogoldstein3373

Жыл бұрын

So damn dorky and pathetic. Waaah I have trauma waaah

Thank god he made the therapist sound like a demon, it really helps put me at ease.

@thefilirivera

10 ай бұрын

Therapists make money off of you being miserable.

@bruhcringe9769

10 ай бұрын

@@thefiliriveradoctors make money on you being injured. Chefs make money on you being hungry. Builders make money on you being homeless. Thieves make money based on you being successful. This point is meaningless.

@phauxdy

10 ай бұрын

​@@thefilirivera social media makes money by you feeling bored and lonely.

@phauxdy

10 ай бұрын

​@thefilirivera everything that can be sold fills a need somewhere, where you would otherwise feel LESS good if you didn't have that good, service, or idea. Unless you're a masochist, of course.

@MaxConsumesDeadHamsters

9 ай бұрын

@@phauxdyyea

I think what a lot of people don't understand about traumacore is the communicative effects of it. People with trauma are often in environments where they aren't allowed to talk about it. They are forced to pretend like everything is okay, even when it's not, and having a way to express where they actually are mentally can be incredibly helpful for feeling validation in the anger and pain trauma brings, and help process and move on from it. I'd equate it to journaling, I'll write out in a rush all the awful thoughts in my head and by the time I'm done I'm not carrying all that weight anymore. I got it out, I verbalized it, took some control over it, was able to process it in the act of putting it to pen/screen. It's absolutely not for everyone, but there is something genuinely comforting to those who suffer from the longstanding effects of trauma to know that their voice can be heard, and that they aren't completely alone. A lot of non-traumatized individuals I see harp on it being the person "dwelling on it and wallowing in misery", when often it's the person clawing intrusive thoughts and feelings out of their own head. They aren't creating the feelings through art, they're creating the art to express feelings and thoughts that were already there. Art should comfort the disturbed, and disturb the comfortable, as the old adage goes.

@yeos_angel_

Жыл бұрын

!!!

@davidwhite8921

Жыл бұрын

So does it help

@notaperson9831

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. The feelings are there regardless. Creating art around it is exactly like journaling and since I’m a more visual person it has always been easier for me to process my emotions that way. Not pulling that stuff out and dealing with it just creates anger, or the feeling like you’re vibrating in an uncomfortable way.

@EngineerMonkey-zp3yj

Жыл бұрын

I can't imagine being able to journal mine. It feels too weird. Imagine if someone discovered it...

@kindapoopedmypants

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I personally don't have a problem with traumacore as someone who is currently healing from the past. I read these now, and only feel validated in how I felt in the past. But I don't feel that gut wrenching feeling like I used to when I'd just wallow in my sadness. I think it's something that can be used as expression, but some people do definitely let it consume them. Like all things, traumacore should be viewed/made in moderation, otherwise you can get consumed in the gloom. I understand why it's frowned upon, but I don't think it's all bad. If it helps the artist liberate themselves, like journaling, so be it. Art isn't always meant to be comfortable.

Youth therapist here, also with a focus on trauma work - thank you for this video, and for consulting with an actual professional in the field! I agree that “traumacore” art walks a fine line between just sitting in your trauma and actually working through it.

@edenfalling

Жыл бұрын

its beautifully disturbing. I love that people create such vastly different art it makes me happy.

@doublestarships646

Жыл бұрын

That's horrifying.

@toolatetothestory

Жыл бұрын

Art is always subjective. Sometimes positive, sometimes negative. Some of the most popular artists and authors in the world created Horror, Stephen King, Junji Ito etc. Sometimes they have issues, sometimes they don't. Or maybe they do all have issues, and some are just hiding it better than others. One way or another though, they use their art for self expression. If it helps or not also depends all on the individual.

@ltdrockeresp

Жыл бұрын

Hey, remember when people weren't pussies?

@PastelOddity

Жыл бұрын

I’m 25, so a tad (yes, JUST A TAD 😂) outside of your usual clientele age, but I’ve noticed that vent art is usually only useful to me after I’ve gotten the emotions out and am on the other side of the moment; I can look back and examine what I was feeling and why. Why did I use so much orange? Why did I use this brush? Why did I draw a bird? So on and so forth. Conversely, I may just need to get a feeling out and throw the piece away later.

the voice he puts for lea is fucking terrifying

@GothicPunkChicky

Жыл бұрын

For me personally not even terrifying, but at the very least near incomprehensible. Wish Maverick would choose another way of masking voices... iirc there were other videos with interview parts, where voices were distorted and it was the exact same problem :/

@Lovely2291

Жыл бұрын

​@@GothicPunkChickyyeah, a different voice filter would be very helpful, I relied a lot on the captions so thank you Mav for adding those.

@damianwebzyx6613

11 ай бұрын

@@GothicPunkChickyit’s only a f…… boring effect and I couldn’t stand it for the whole thing … unnecessary 🤦🏻‍♂️

He is back, it’s a good day.

@dxcvvxd

Жыл бұрын

babe wake up, maverick files uploaded.

@b0zz1380y

Жыл бұрын

@@dxcvvxdso did T6

@NebulaCuhh

Жыл бұрын

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@DevDabs420Official

Жыл бұрын

​@@b0zz1380ysay less 🤏😁🤏

@irusvzi

Жыл бұрын

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‘Traumacore’ is triggering for me at times but mostly physically painful to look at. The way I see it - if it helps, it helps. The only thing I don’t like is when folks with or without trauma use it as an “aesthetic” or try to turn trauma into something it’s not.

@beansinacrocsshoe

Жыл бұрын

Real.

@Apinkmangg

7 ай бұрын

I dislike when people take disturbing art unrelated to trauma and then be like “omg stop objectifying trauma”

I feel like a lot of good traumacore images are really good at conveying feelings and ideas that are difficult to identify and express otherwise. It's a bit like visual poetry. I do however feel that it could kind of get saturated with low-effort content that doesn't really "mean" anything other than "ooh look here's a creepy thing juxtaposed with a cute thing!" without a point. Also agree that sometimes there's content that could be potentially triggering (how often have I been scrolling past mostly surreal images and then suddenly there's a photo of slashed wrists). I think the content can be created and enjoyed by others in ways that respect each others' limits. I understand the concern that it may lead to sort of "wallowing" in trauma but I see it more as channeling negative feelings into something positive.

I've been a tumblr user for about a decade, but I specifically began my "aesthetic blog" account in around late 2015/early 2016. My main "aesthetic" (because we all get lumped into a label eventually if your blog gets big enough) is Menhera/Yami Kawaii (sickly cute), which stems from a Japanese art and fashion movement that began around the same time I started my blog, combining traditional kawaii themes with physical and mental health related vent art. Naturally, as soon as "traumacore" started becoming a term, we started getting lumped together (some of the Menhera blogs that were more focused on info/news from the Japanese scene even directly compared it a few times). When it comes to vent art, there is a very fine line between expressing you emotions and romanticization you need to be careful of. It can be helpful when it comes to finding community and processing things, as I only started to unpack some of my own trauma involving a certain "child friendly" chat site after seeing traumacore posts related to it. You just don't wanna let yourself get lost in it for too long unless you want to start spiraling down. Helping those around you (and yourself) aim towards recovery is one of the biggest pillars on the Menhera community, and a lot of us do mix things up with also posting advice and positive affirmations so we don't wallow in the darkness too long, and we encourage each other to seek proper help if able to. Yami Kawaii is often paired with it's more light-hearted cousin Yume Kawaii (dreamy cute), because you always need to balance out the darkness with the light.

That voice modulation is fucking traumacore

Thank God! I've already binged all your videos, I am extremely happy to have new work from you! You are one of my favorite KZreadr now even tho it was only last month when I found you!

@Perceptionisreal

Жыл бұрын

He has a couple other channels also if interested. T6 and T6 archives.

@AllTheOthers

Жыл бұрын

hell yeah. I was here when this channel started, super glad you like it

Trauma core COULD be a healing method (art therapy is a thing!), but having it be a sort of "fandom" is a really bad idea. Its passed around a group of already very fragile people, and its constantly triggering each other. They are ripping a wound open over and over.

@melasnexperience

Жыл бұрын

Yep. They put themselves in a group that talks a big deal about healing & moving on from trauma, but all they do is dwell on & amplify each other's trauma. I've seen it too much, and it's always depressing to witness.

@EngineerMonkey-zp3yj

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, you put it perfectly! It doesn't seem like the sort of thing that should have a fandom, but at the same time, it feels sort of... inevitable, the way the internet is.

I have some severe PTSD. I believe it can be helpful, in the way that you know that other people who experienced something terrible survived through it and that you can and will survive too. Now I cant say that I like the art visually, but I can definitely see how it could help as well and make you feel less alone in dealing with having survived horrible things and the after effects of such an event. I agree with her that its a matter of perspective, I had never viewed these disturbing images as anything but "I survived" when it is obviously art, but I can absolutely see how a different perspective could instead re-traumatize a person and would be counter productive to their healing too. Everything is a different and unique individual who experiences things differently. I personally prefer more positive ways of processing trauma and to lift others up in a more positive way.

@fie4426

Жыл бұрын

Well said. 💜

As a teen I was in what I'd say was a predecessor / ugly cousin of traumacore (many might disagree) with none of the subtlety and a fraction of the artistry... graphic self-harm pictures, was also mainly on Tumblr. Don't get me wrong, it was toxic as all hell but still, I did it for many years bcs as twisted as it is, it was therapeutic for me. I guess I mainly wanted someone to acknowledge my suffering

@brokenfoxproductions

Жыл бұрын

That was my niche as a teenager and I honestly can't describe how much damage those communities cause. I still have scars and medical issues from making gif sets depicting my own self destruction. It's just a bad vibe.

@sillycookie

Жыл бұрын

I remember seeing those pictures in random tags when I tried looking for things. Horrible stuff. I hope you're doing better these days ❤

@notaperson9831

Жыл бұрын

Definitely toxic but those communities are also where I learned a lot of harm reduction from that helped me treat my own and others’ wounds, self harm and otherwise.

i went through a lot of trauma as a child, and dwelling into these communities has always left a really rough taste in my mouth. i tried dwelling into these communities to help myself feel more less alone and to feel more accepted through what i had been through, yet every time i dwelled into these communities, everyone would trigger one another and no one would ever (really) cope with their trauma. im not saying this has happened to everyone within the traumacore community, but a few spaces i joined as a young teen, it just appeared that everyone was.. almost showing off their trauma in a way with these pieces of art. everyones art pieces seemed to get more and more grotesque as i delved deeper, in a way to almost "one up" one another. i saw it happen repeatedly - as other children and young teens would make more and more disturbing art pieces to almost "show off" their trauma, which not only retriggered people, but it just became somewhat of a competition. the art was never censored, it was never trigger warned and it was never spoken about in a therapeutic way, the children within the community who i spoke to at the time, (i must have been 14/15), only ever just.. one upped each other. they would make these art pieces - "yeah well I went through this" - "but I went through that" sort of thing. it may have just been that i fell into the *wrong* side of traumacore, but the community didnt help me at all. it just seemed like a place of competition. traumacore can be helpful for so many people and i can understand why, as for a little while it did help me before i delved deeper into the community, but with how.. "edgy" some kids are nowadays, traumacore and these other types of "cores" that deal with the same types of topics sometimes only appear to be competition and a way for young people to just live in edgy spaces without fully getting the help they need. another group like this would be twitter and its "shtwt/edtwt" spaces - they encourage each other. shtwt and edtwt are a WHOLE other topic, but if you read this i apologize for repeating myself/rambling lol, i just had a LOT to talk about within this topic :)

idk if the images you showed are a part of traumacore (as i am not a heavy internet user or interested in internet aesthetics, etc.) but i found them immensely comforting. i do follow quite a few instagram accounts that post similar type photos/art, as i relate to much of the content & style, and i've even posted on my own ig a handful of images i've created in similar fashion - but again i really don't know much about internet culture to the degree that many do lol.

@PeaceAndCarrots44

Жыл бұрын

the stuff in the vid was definitely some milder traumacore than what can be found out there lol but traumacore nonetheless

I wonder if in the future there is a voice changer that is not as “messy” sounding? I usually listen to your videos without watching and I just cannot understand what the specialist is saying with that specific voice filter on.

@Moofshire

Жыл бұрын

There are subtitles in the video. Read nigga! READ!!

@sarvolkskaya

Жыл бұрын

same, it’s really hard to decipher! that said i’m so grateful mav captioned the whole conversation - it’s such an interesting topic that even though i couldn’t hear it was a great read

@DanteHellDrive

Жыл бұрын

True, it's annoying.

@notaperson9831

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s very irritating

as someone w ptsd i love traumacore. creativity is one of my only healthy ways of coping and it combines all of my favorite mediums. ty for this video mav

As someone who listens yo audio, this video was hilarious, he was talking about trauma core, and then interviewed Ghazghiul Consumer of souls and then the outro played

My friend was a therapist for dis advantaged children. Her life and her health affected her outside of the therapy. She was brave up to the end she went away from us. The loss still brings me to tears. The Traumacore stuff only opens old wounds.

As somebody who has accessed a LOT of mental health help and has been in online mental illness/healing spaces irl and online for well over a decade, I feel like, as the practices and techniques of Art Therapy allow more room for digital art, this art form might align with genuine therapy more organically

That voice distortion was way too much. Couldn't follow it at all, listening while working.

the voice changer is overdone, makes the entire interview incredibly and needlessly grating >inb4 some numbnuts says "that's the point" to which i say -- an hero with utmost speed.

@besainted

Жыл бұрын

agreee

@EngineerMonkey-zp3yj

Жыл бұрын

That's the point to which I say -- an hero with utmost speed.

Very interesting, as someone who works with children who have suffered a range of things from neglect and abuse to CSA I never knew this had a name as it’s something I’ve seen before

i always wanted to make traumacore as a form for art therapy bc i used to go to therapist as kid and all i did was art therapy. not anymore but I have the need to express myself somehow, i can’t draw for shit and internet doesn’t like ppl with actual mental health issues. that’s why i never started.

I've been through a lot of shit when I was younger so I definitely get why people create Traumacore Art, for me to speak about my trauma has somewhat lightened the hold it had over me, and for these people to create art that shows their traumas unapolagetically, I imagine it could have helped them move on somewhat also. The negative reaction to it from general audiences is expected, it's extremely brash and it is definitely triggering (that goes for myself also, my CPTSD was popping off seeing some of this art). Isn't art meant to evoke emotion tho? To me it just makes this stuff more interesting in how it could trigger such a reaction, it serves it's purpose imo. Some people just tagging "#art" and nothing else with Traumacore Art is kinda fucked tho considering the general characteristics of Traumacore, but tbh maybe more people need to see this stuff, abuse happens so much more than the general population realise and for victims it definitely can feel like nobody wants to listen at times (when bottling it up just makes it even worse) so maybe they felt this was a way to get people to pay attention when so many others haven't had the time for it? Who knows, maybe some people are just larping for the shock value of it, probably the case knowing how chronically online people crave attention so much.

You never fail to find topics that are unique, new, and down right relevant. I never knew traumacore was a thing but it perfectly fits. Shoutout to the professional you interviewed, very cool!

The quality of these videos are amazing, I'm so blown away by everything, but I always come back for the narration, topics and storytelling.

As someone with a lot of trauma i find a lot of comfort in "traumacore" images as lot of my traumatizing experiences came from when i was a child. I dont remember a lot of my childhood but i remember a lot of the thoughts i had. And trauma core has represented that. While i recognize that it is a dangerous line it is also nice to feel recognized in these images. I stay away from the communities though; i know if i indulge myself in a community it would make me worse mentally. Its like taking something in doses

For future videos, please make the subtitles of the audio bigger, especially if you’re gonna distort the voice.

i see traumacore as a form of vent art and expression art that can be really personal. sometimes it can help to just.. make something visual, instead of speaking about trauma when you aren’t ready for that yet. i find it both comforting and triggering. sometimes, i feel like i need to be triggered and upset in order to realise what it is that is hurting me. that sounds stupid, but seriously, half of the time i don’t remember the awful things that make me feel bad. sometimes i need to be told what is wrong for me to know. i think so long as you know what you are getting into, it is okay. traumacore artwork should be an outlet you use on the side, not your primary therapy.

the amount of awareness, openness and empathy you have Mav is astounding. Not only did you do so much work but you really put your own ignorance (not in the negative connotation) aside and seeked not just the perspective of say, an artist, but a fully licensed professional. This speaks volume and thank you for being so kind and respectful to the community. Much love.

why not treat disturbing images like that as one would 18+ nsfw art? behind private accounts and shared in a space where people ARE expecting it and can opt in. I think that would be safest

@Moofshire

Жыл бұрын

Bc ppl are stupid and are just gonna ignore it. Stuff like this is pretty difficult to regulate.

@lambykin842

Жыл бұрын

probably because a large portion of people who partake these things are minors

@Moofshire

Жыл бұрын

@lambykin842 there's something for that: therapy. These kids shouldn't be making this stuff online and should be treated by professionals. All that uploading this schlop does is temporarily help with the problem, not solve it. These kids should be in therapy, not making stuff like this

@melasnexperience

Жыл бұрын

Besides the issue that others mentioned that a lot are minors, there's also the fact that, for some people, something completely innocuous might be disturbing because of something that happened to them. If, say, something traumatic happened involving a red car, the sight of red cars might be disturbing to them as a result.

@EngineerMonkey-zp3yj

Жыл бұрын

​@@MoofshireNow I know we hear this time and time again, but isn't therapy like, expensive? I have a pretty bad habit of dismissing it for myself because of it.

oooh, never expected this to be covered

I wished you would have interviewed one of the artists instead, or a traumatized person that can give you an insight of why they feel drawn to those images and communties.

the voice distortion makes it very hard to understand them.

Started the vid and subbed as soon as I heard your voice. Very relaxing to listen to and can't wait for more vids!

I remember walking down the river one day and I found a piece of a ceramic looks like it belong to a ladle or something. It a cute innocent picture of a goose and a teddy bear on it. Seeing it Broken thrown out and washed up in the mud made me incredibly depressed in ways I didn’t know how to describe but thanks to your video I finally have words for what I was feeling

Back in the day, we'd just call this overwrought and angsty.

To me traumacore is like seeing your thoughts. Imagine it. You're in a place, a familiar one. Maybe one you walk past every day or frequently that to say. But now that place has implemented itself to your head. As a dreamy outcome it looks a bit off due your memory and it's way to soften things. Now imagine you can see your thoughts as words in there too. What did you think of that time or some words/questions that bothers you. That's what I would describe traumacore as.

As someone with issues who have had psychologists and psychiatrists growing up with them wanting to do exposure therapy to get over my traumas... lets just say I trust a person less when they use the word "triggering" or suggesting to avoid traumas because systematic desensitization DOES help.

The real trauma is the fact that people still use tumblr

There's a rough balance here. You could wallow in trauma your whole life and feel pathetic, but that doesn't feel nice. Neither does bottling it up and being told to get over or forget it.

I don't consider the stuff that I make to be traumacore but it's definitely within the same vein and I've never understood why people who make this type of content wouldn't make people aware of what they are making. I mentioned in my description and verbally at the beginning of every single video I make let the things I talk about revolve around trauma, and that I fully understand if people don't want to have anything to do with it and I don't expect to have a lot of viewers because the stuff I talked about is extremely unpleasant. I feel like people forget that whenever you don't give that contacts in that warning before you dump all of this shit on to people that you are essentially traumatizing or re-traumatizing complete strangers who wanted nothing to do with it. Like the internet is a fair place to trauma dump in my opinion, just give people a warning before they stumble upon it. Also I apologize if there are any typos in this I am disabled and use voice typing which is not always accurate.

I have experienced trauma and I feel part of viewing traumacore is this visceral catharsis. On the other hand I know that my this feeling is part of my brain's way of not letting go. It's really hard to let go

man i respect you so much. You handle sensitive topics so well and never speak on topics you’re not educated enough about. thank you for being great and for all the amazing content ❤

I consume trauma core art so i can atleast give my perspective. She is right its only a self help tool. It can be helpful but only so much. That being said. I personally use trauma core music (which is usually calming and comforting tones) to comfort me while i bring up and process trauma i have. The sounds make me feel like im in a safe place where nothing can hurt me, so i can think of these things and know if i am hurt by them i am still able to be safe with the trauma core music. The tones and stuff serve as a sort of "washing" of the bad stuff. Kind of like when you're in your room when your anxious and in survival mode but then you focus on the pitter patter of the storms rain. It's hypnotic consistency allows you to dissociate to it. That's what those songs tend to do for me.

I used to make traumacore artwork, and when I was, I always felt horrible but didn't know why. I would have frequent panic attacks and felt drained almost constantly. But when I started to leave it behind I felt much more tranquil. Traumacore was a method of emotional self harm and I didn't know it

Trauma is all i experience in my conscious perception of the world. Relief is impossible, no such thing exists for the chronically suicidal. This is more than a cope, it’s our only way of feeling heard

There’s a difference between masking someone’s voice and using the satan filter…

Back when I was first processing my trauma a few years ago, Traumacore was a huge thing I stumbled upon. I felt so seen and heard seeing other people’s art and I remember having an entire pinterest board made just to save the images. But while it made me feel connected with others, it also made me feel even worse in a way. The images were always there when i opened social media. It was constantly on the forefront of my mind causing me to basically be constantly thinking about my trauma. Those Traumacore images combined with EMDR Therapy gave me the worst 6-8 months of my life as my trauma was all I thought about and my emotions were heightened. I think it is something that can be good if used very sparingly. The “aesthetic” of traumacore being a constant in art is definitely a good and bad. I believe most people find comfort in it because they’re not ready to move on from their trauma and thus seeing images that remind them or re-traumatize them brings them a sense of comfort. I believe it’s probably one of the least effect forms of self help based off of my experience, but what helps helps and if it doesn’t, then other options are there.

Very interesting. First time I’ve heard of this and the discussion was enlightening. Great job!

I want to thank you for taking the time to take a nuanced approach to Traumacore, and especially for reaching out to a professional to get their view on it. Your videos are always wonderfully put together but I especially appreciate your work and effort on this one, and the way you did your best to see all sides.

I really respect that you interviewed a professional, that shows the level of quality of your work. I majored in Psych with a work in art psychology, and I absolutely agree with "Leah". IMO (and yeah, everything I'm going to say from now on is my opinion, as a professional) trauma art in general is not art therapy. Art therapy involves specific techniques both for the creation of the art pieces themselves, and the interpretation of the art. The piece itself is not the most important therapeutic component, it's the subsequent interpretation and the integration of the interpretation to the therapy as a whole. You work very closely with the client. It's, like Leah said, a type of self help, buy imo in the same way a herbal sleeping aid helps with chronic insomnia. I don't think it's wrong or entirely useless, since it can be very cathartic for the artist and catharsis is extremely important. But catharsis isn't healing. It simply releases accumulated tensions and emotions. After the release, there is still a long, long way to go. I also agree with what you said about how it victimizes the unconsenting viewer. But it can also revictimize the artist. Over and over again they go through the emotions and memories of their traumatic experience, instead of elaborating them. They stay in the catharsis phase, harming themselves every single time they make another piece. In contrast, in real art therapy, you can see the art change as the patient heals.

I have a complicated relationship with traumacore. It was something I engaged with in my early 20s, as I was dealing with the brunt of my PTSD. Eventually, I was forced to stop by an alter (a product of my own childhood trauma). I did slowly get better after I stopped engaging. I understand it helps some feel seen. I understand that. But I do feel that at some point its just emotional self harm, that if you're in deep you might not see that you're keeping yourself there. Re-traumatising yourself over n over

I missed your videos, we're glad you're back!

(read thread, another user adds context/perspective I lacked) As an artist who firmly lives by "comfort the disturbed, disturb the comfortable", this format and genre is utterly fascinating to me and presents a vast world of potential. edit: I can totally tell ya why. As someone traumatized as a child with deep and intense emotions this makes me feel seen. It is a way of finding other birds of a feather while forcing those who remain willingly ignorant of these realities to acknowledge us. See us. Maybe be moved to act against the systems that help perpetuate these traumas. double edit: @maverickfiles may I download this? I honestly have so much personal perspective and insight I would like to add possibly via a reaction/commentary type video, however I don't wanna overstep as I know how much work goes into a video of this quality.

@nerium.nerium

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You perfectly encompassed how this made me feel. Thank you.

@JaceReboot

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@@nerium.nerium no problem haha happy to be of help with my skills to articulate

@homeland1128

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I believe there's more in this world than the disturbed and the comfortable. That is the "disturbed but already in their comfortable (peace)" while your comment seems validating, imo it also could kinda ignorant/harmful to some of "your people" too that already in peace and doesn't need to be disturbed again.

@JaceReboot

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@@homeland1128 I respect that but failed to articulate it myself. Likely due to having reached that calm myself and thus being somewhat blinded to it by familiarity. I appreciate the constructive addition and context for those who may have misunderstood me and been retraumatized

Forget Barbieheimer!! Maverick has a new video today!! 🤘🏼

amazing video on a subject I've seen growing and have explored! all I can say is that the voice of the Lia was a bit tought to make out at times but that might just be me

Its odd to know some of my hidden away art has a term. Trauma core. And its sad to see how some people use it to harm others. As per usual humanity has ways to make you sigh and despair

Amazing video, as always! My only note is if you have a guest on and so the distorted voice, maybe go a little lighter on distortion because it's hard to catch everything just listening while you're doing something else

It is definitely a ..strange feeling, as someone who has undergone trauma, to see traumacore. It's nostalgic. It's sad but it's home. It's where I came from. It's the uneasiness and sadness I grew up in. It's a human thing to feel nostalgic. Even if the home is bad, even if the family is bad, even if the events are bad. It was home. And my heart will always be there. It's less romanticizing, more looking back. Reflection, and understanding. The art doesn't have to say anything. Yet it says everything. It speaks for itself. And while it is important and well understood that you should never, ever go back to that horrible place, traumacore gives you a safe way to look at it. To observe it, to sit with it, to let your nervous system work through what it needs to work through. With art just vague enough that it can mean something to everyone. Without outright touching on the thing precisely, you can get close to it. Almost close enough to hug who you used to be and tell them it will be okay.

I really appreciated the interview with the professional. However it was really difficult to follow along with the heavy filtering. I understand why you did it, but if you do something like it again, I would appreciate if it was a little easier to listen to. Thank you for the video, it's greatly appreciated.

Beautifully done, timesix. As always.

I've been here since the beginning. And you've quickly become my favorite KZreadr.

as someone into menhera / yami kawaii this was a really interesting watch. been into it for about a decade now, and i've sort of thought about the implications, but always just settled on 'it works for me'. not the best comparison to traumacore because it is actually pretty nuanced, but can definitely imagine a similar video with what i'm into. it has it's place, but it's definitely not for the general audience. it works really well as an outlet for some of us though. the general rule imo is to just not push it onto other people. with my own art, it actually has done me a lot of good for processing complicated feelings. though i try to make much more happy art as of late and keep that sort of stuff more to myself.

This is quickly becoming my go-to KZread channel.

I’ve been waiting so long for my daily scary serotonin or as I call it scare-itonin

Something interesting that I'd like to note is that the pairing of cute visuals with darker themes in traumacore really reminds me of yami kawaii. It's pretty much traumacore with a more Harajuku twist, I feel. Refinery29 has a great video on the topic.

your channel is amazing. one of my favorites. Keep up the good work!!!

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Bae wake up, Maverick Files posted🤗

Love the video very informative and intriguing! However the audio used to hide the professionals voice was a bit difficult to understand.

1:55 “Traumacore is made up of memoirs that do not want to be forgotten. Memoirs that crave to be resolved.” You mean...memories? Just the regular word memories? You know, the word that means things in your memory? Instead of the word that means written and published personal accounts of someone’s whole life, or parts of their life, like an autobiography? I think you just mean memories.

i remember being obsessed with it when i wasn’t mentally stable enough/in the right headspace to interact with it in a healthy way. i remember going through a pipeline of these images and it just made me so depressed and the next day i told my therapist i wanted to go back to the mental hospital. i was NOT ok at the time but thank god i never went back. nowadays i’m in a much better place and am able to consume this type of media without it making me feel worse, in fact it usually helps me work through my traumas instead of making them worse.

I was in the traumacore community for a bit and even made some of my own images with original photographs i took in places i spent my time in as a child. Venting about the stuff you've been through, and probably can't remember correctly will end up in you not making sense. I found comfort in the community for that reason. The lack of knowing yet the full understanding provided comfort. However, it does end up being a loop of (like the therapist said) bringing it up and processing it, but you don't move on. You stay stuck on it, esspecially if you're an artist, and you try to recreate the image again and again until it's all you have in your gallery and you are constantly reminded of this thing you're supposed to move on from. The act of it is good, its a vent post in a way. But the act turns into an aesthetic which leads to people into traumatizing others.

This was a great video. Thank you for opening my eyes to this corner of the internet

I thought this was lost media. I remember when you uploaded this to liminal before turning it into a ambience playlist.

My boy is back. Excellent work as always

Ah I used to be into traumacore mostly cause it made me feel less alone seeing people with the same experiences, plus I used to have a hard time recognizing and vocalizing my emotions, and this put everything I felt on one image, so yeah... I stopped looking at it once I was doing better mentally cause IT IS very triggering :/ I also remember there eas discourse cause some users tagged it "hello kitty" and such, and sanrio being such a comforting thing for many people, it is pretty sad and bad to find traumacore in the middle of something cute you enjoy and makes you feel better y'know?

what happened to the killdozer vid it was probably my favorite video by you to date

I absolutely love traumacore. I love joking about my mental health because actually talking about it has ruined friendships and relationships.

I love traumacore and find some therapeutic value in it, but so many people I see involved (myself included) just cycle around in the misery and around and don’t make any moves to get out of it It’s easier to just sit in it than get help and the community makes that even easier and more appealing

I don't like the idea that because traumacore doesn't produce something positive that it's looked down on. Sometimes you just need to spill all that shit out on something, and that's perfectly okay, given things are appropriately tagged if posted online. I might take up making this stuff myself. I deal with a lot of stuff, and I could see it being extremely beneficial. It's easy to say that getting professional help would be "better", but not everyone has access to it, or what they do have access to is not adequate (*cough* NHS *cough* though don't get me wrong I do appreciate the NHS). As long as you're not harming others, traumacore seems like the perfect way to offload with or without professional help.

@longlongie5938

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A huge part of society is obsessed with productivity these days, they don't want to acknowledge that there are problems you can't fix anytime soon and are mad that you're coping instead of doing a work on yourself. Little do they know, they're coping too, just in a different way.

@elvingearmasterirma7241

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Its proobably not good to share it online. Its so so personal. And it can be weaponised against you. i learnt that the hard way heh

@IDEKaaaaaaaagh

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@@longlongie5938 EXACTLY

I always knew that this “aesthetic” was controversial but if it’s helping people cope in a healthy way and not sh and stuff then I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it.

I dont have any trauma, so as an "outsider", this traumacore stuff feels like when you were a kid and found something you werent supposed to, and now you feel weird and a little disgusted. That's the feeling I have towards this stuff since you feel the nostalgia of liminal spaces, with the feeling of eeriness, like its almost corrupted by some Eldritch Horror took over the images. People cope in odd ways sometimes. Looked into it more and uhh... yea yall need therapy. Not the internet. Get offline

@asaggynipple5587

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hey, don’t shun the people that participate in this. many of us simply can’t afford therapy. we literally don’t have the money of insurance. is it not okay for people to have a way of coping since they can’t afford professionals?

@Moofshire

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@asaggynipple5587 yeah you can cope all you want. Just don't post that shit online for my eyes to see. Keep it to yourself. All the copium you want, safely secured in a folder where only your eyes can see it. If you really wanna share it, find a small private community of others like you. Don't blast that stuff everywhere willy nilly bc some unsuspecting kid could stumble across it and become traumatized by it. That was a bit of an exaggeration, but still. These kinds of communities can be harmful. Especially, traumacore.

@asaggynipple5587

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@@Moofshire the point is to share it though. it creates a sense of community and let’s you be seen and validated. if you don’t like it that’s fine, just scroll past it and don’t engage. it’s simple

@Moofshire

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@asaggynipple5587 that's strange. This stuff is fucking weird. I get coping and all that, but basically aestheticizing mental illness and trauma is insane to me. Keep that stuff to your own community. Have your community, but don't blast it outside of it to the point where others who don't share your trauma can see it. In my opinion, traumacore is disgusting. If you absolutely can't seek counseling, then make your cope pictures. But keep it away from the general crowd. It's the same thing that's happening with the depression core community. At least they know to keep their stuff to their community, not blasting it all over the internet.

@asaggynipple5587

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@@Moofshire dude, it’s not that big of a deal. most of us are not aestheticizing it. the people that are, are the problem. i get it if you don’t like it but you don’t understand how it might help someone. like i said, if you don’t like it just don’t engage, it’s really simple

I wish you would talk about or play the first two og fallout games. It’s really bleak and dark at times, but it’s super witty with their humor. It’s been cool watching you grow as a creator :) I’ve been listening since the old green text videos :) and your editing has gotten very nice! Cool silent hill gameplay too :)

went a little overboard with the voice modulation there, bud.

@Mars.95

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Yeah, I find it prettty hard to understand. I know there's subtitles but I was just going to listen to this in the background while cleaning. A little too dramatic.

as a person with cptsd, traumacore always triggered me - i tried to understand that it was helpful for people with trauma, but i couldnt help but feel uneased, panicked and disgustingly nauseated whenever i came across them. the music combined with the images makes me have (or at least it used to) episodes. I personally never found how rhese could be comforting and i despised that it almost romanticized ropics like child abuse, sa, sh and eds. I understand what it symbolizes, but i do not appreciate the way the internet has twisted and malformed its concept.

Thanks T6 😮👌 I never heard the word Traumacore until now

Amazing as always.

Great eopisode. Never heard of this til your video.

I would say the social worker gave a pretty good, careful analysis, and they did a great job with the pros, but they kept speaking as professionally as possible and I think maybe more honest and even critical language might better suit the cons of something like “trauma core”. Like….. It’s an “identity” based scene, mixed with a psychological horror type of fan scene, I do not believe more than half of the creators actually experienced such trauma and it needs to be considered as a mix of attempted therapeutic art and exploitative, transgressive art. And mixing horror fans who want to make the most unsettling, disturbing content possible with actual victims of trauma who begin hoping it will help them, is the perfect recipe for a negative feedback loop of more horrific, more awful = better. And then, like all the other “cores” and other tiktok cultures of identity (the faking mental illness like Tourette’s and DiD scene comes to mind) is going to lead people into the darkest places possible, reveling in the worst moments of their lives, or posing as if they are doing such (yes, posing as in poseurs) and the whole thing becomes an egdelord ridden home for true victims, fans of darker content, and actual sociopathic predators who enjoy the suffering of others. We have seen bizarre cases where people catfish as if they were a peer, and convincing people to harm themselves, ending up being a middle aged man with no interest in anything but cp and causing the most vulnerable young girls to do awful things with blackmail. I’m not totally going to wag my finger at it, I myself am a big fan of some very bleak and horrific content (fictional and historic). I find true crime a bit objectionable, snuff videos on the web totally repulsive, harm videos….It makes me angry this even exists. Anyway…traumacore feels like it can get very close to NSFL subjects and I can see many finding a home inside this community, and sadly being inside the home when it comes burning down. Anyhow, great video, I think u covered it with a genuine and careful approach and did your best to stay tasteful.

Exactly what I needed before going to sleep

I deeply resonate with a lot of the comments here. I spent years on tumblr for aesthetics and inspiration towards my own work, and nostalgia of growing up in a small industrial town in Michigan I worked through a lot of people finding their comfort in some really weird things, trauma core being one of them, again with that heavy cross section of liminality, which I didn’t understand as a concept when I followed it, but trauma core had the same atmosphere I always thought the messages were way too personal to be generalized, so they felt like diary entries or something, a bit self indulgent. Extremely distracting. I never considered, but it makes sense, that trauma core could be someone living in the past, and hyper fixating on their pain, as some sort of attempt at validating their own misery instead of finding a way out of it

I remembered i looked at traumacore alot as a younger child. I never felt uncomfortable with it, then again, i might have not have been as deep into it as others, i loved weirdcore, the chaos, was sorta calming, and traumacore was recommend from it, looking back, it was probably something i shouldn't have been seeing. I feel the internet can sometimes manipulate the way kids think, and how they react to certain things.

As someone with C-PTSD I can say I've made vent art before. But It's kinda like a thing for me and if I share it it's plastered with trigger warnings. I have seen a lot of traumacore stuff pop up without me knowing of it and not seeking it out. No trigger warnings, it's just kinda there in your face. And it kinda just makes me feel worse. I also suffer from depression and anxiety on top of the C-PTSD due to my trauma, and the traumacore stuff just makes that worse. I'm all for it though, but only if you can be considerate and at least put trigger warnings on it, keep in specifically in the traumacore space, or simply keep it to yourself.

I couldn’t listen to the interview the voice changer was very annoying to my ears but thanks for another vid!