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@tomkarate1

Жыл бұрын

I don't understand kinbody's biASS about having a big ass. I would never pASS on having a nice mASS ass.

@thesteubinator1254

Жыл бұрын

5:56 "They're not focused on aesthetics so they don't focus on aesthetics" Profound! Sagacious! Insightful! Defs going to buy your books!

@bop2bops

Жыл бұрын

"Low volume high frequency , deadlifts" - mainstream

“45 minutes into your session, you’ve done 2 working sets for squats”. So true😂

@DROGOC0P

Жыл бұрын

why did he have to expose me like that lol

@princerak8881

Жыл бұрын

i do alot of warm ups

@sammckenzie6760

Жыл бұрын

In my defence I've done 3 sets in 45 min 😤😤😤

@Horneycorn

Жыл бұрын

That's my main reason for not even wanting to do them anymore. A decade + of lifting and I gotta say I honestly don't care for it anymore. I want to be in and out within an hour and not barely making the end of my squat session within 1 hour.

@haellm9192

Жыл бұрын

​@@Horneycorn just put another bar at the bottom and deadlift on the way back

He has very clear physique goals that dont include tree trunk legs. So its not really a problem if he doesnt want to.

@stian7479

Жыл бұрын

​@@soonaherohe needs to step up (or down?) his game then

@hallowrant8091

Жыл бұрын

I agree. KinoGreg has no use for huge legs. He has an aesthetics channel. I also agree with Geoffrey.

@texasbeaver8188

Жыл бұрын

Greg's at least still training them seriously. I'd have to disagree that it's ur prerogative to not train legs at all. It's a foolish decision. They're prob ur most important bodypart for longevity, also low back. Those seem to be the first things that go on the elderly. Who wants to walk on a stroller? Once/week lifting, minimum. Building fitness in ur legs is important for health. Young bucks don't understand...

@hallowrant8091

Жыл бұрын

Who are you disagreeing with? No one from Greg to Geoffrey to any commenters have suggested not training legs at all. Greg doesnt do squats and deadlifts, he does train legs

@lmdoinraysmom

Жыл бұрын

Its really lame to skip legs and makes you sound like a little bitch boi not wanting your legs to get big

I like Kinobody. Despite of his "cringeness" he one of the few fitness youtubers that's fully honest with the fact that his main goal is aesthetics. His training is directed towards to being "hotter", and his programs are pretty good, specially for upper body. I don't know why people don't admit that improving your looks is very important and adds a lot to your self-confidence. Kinobody says this upfront, which seems to bother a lot of people.

@awemanyfit

Жыл бұрын

Yeah you understand. Kinobody's own is to attract women,I follow him and Austin Dunham. Austin is like Kinobody but for black guys

@danieltemelkovski9828

Жыл бұрын

Way more guys workout for primarily aesthetic reasons than are willing to admit it. One problem with admitting you train for aesthetics, though, is when you still don't look very good, it's a legit concern that people will think "you're training for aesthetics huh? well it's not working lol lol lol." So pretending not to care about aesthetics is one way to get around those undesirable judgments.

@rodrigoramos3871

Жыл бұрын

@@danieltemelkovski9828 that's an excellent point. Even I in the past used that "lie" of training for "performance" because my aesthetics weren't showing hahaha. But the reason that wasn't working is because I was training wrong. That's another point in favor of training for aesthetics: is really hard to do it well, you have to know your body, and really push your limits in the gym constantly. If you don't do this, you're basically wasting your time.

@user-sc9ud8wh3t

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, great points here. It is harder to see constant progress when you are training for aesthetics + harder to objectively tell your level and progression. But ultimately, it is a huge reasons for most guys that train in the gym. Or even outside of gym, a lot of adults in different sports wouldnt do them if they didnt affect their physic. Not saying that we should all quit training, but it is important to be honest with ourselfs (e.g. for me - i do more training than i should, tend to favor certain kinds of workouts etc. for mental (coping or just enjoying myself) reasons, therefore, recomending them to other people in my sport or trying to rationalize that they are optimal would be lying to myself)

@awemanyfit

Жыл бұрын

@@Mori a good rule of thumb for self improvement and to improve attractiveness is to look at people with your phenotype and do mostly what they do. Austin D. Is dark like me, we're very similar. I'm a younger guy,so me using him is a very good example. I never said Kinobody content is for race

1:49 If Arnold did cocaine, I'm gonna do cocaine.

@Scorptice

Жыл бұрын

Arnold cheated on his wife... well, what can you do

@punxsutawneyphil3944

Жыл бұрын

@@Scorptice Sh*t, I don't have a wife. 🙈

@punxsutawneyphil3944

Жыл бұрын

@@Scorptice I need one asap so I can cheat on her!!

Im at the point where I respect the aesthetic someone aims for, not everyone has the same goals and look they wanna go for and also there are tons of different ways that you can hit your muscles you dont have to do what you dont enjoy, I also dont want that much mass on my legs, just balanced to the rest of the body. I want powerful, explosive legs for both fighting and general athleticism.

@PauIdenino

Жыл бұрын

Yea, leg strength isn't very important for fighting. It's mostly about upper and middle body strength.

@TheGreektrojan

Жыл бұрын

Correct. It unfortunate that most of the real, evidence based, non-charlatan parts of the industry is almost exclusively after the mass monster ideal but there is no shame in people chasing the beach body ideal (though I'd still train legs/compounds for those). Its my personal goal as well, just doing it effectively via advice from people like Geoff.

@EgoLifter8011

Жыл бұрын

@@TheGreektrojan true if everyone did the same thing and had the same goal in mind it would be boring Imo. I train at home too so I do a lot of plyos for example for basketball and I just enjoy jumping and bouncing around, I get to do leg day without dreading it😆

@PauIdenino

Жыл бұрын

@@Chris-ve3jt Well it helps, but much more important to have storng forearms, biceps and back in grappling IMO Also if your legs are too big, you might struggle to wrap your legs around someone's neck

@privtprofile24

Жыл бұрын

@@PauIdenino Yup look at Jon Jones

The key message here is it’s hard to go to absolute failure with barbell squats and deadlifts as there is a big injury risk when form breaks down

In fairness to Kinobody, his legs aren't pathetic, he's not running into fit issues with jeans and suit trousers, he's got a very good vertical jump and he's explosive over 40 yards. Doesn't that fit with the goals of his brand pretty well?

@GVS

Жыл бұрын

He seems happy with things, it's mostly people projecting their goals onto him it seems.

@PauIdenino

Жыл бұрын

@@GVS Well said

@robertdesertrider2694

Жыл бұрын

… I just think Barbell lifts are the funnest part of lifting … 😢

@joalvarado8506

Жыл бұрын

He has an abysmal vertical jump and an even more pathetic 40 yard dash time. No one who jumps high or runs fast avoids squatting.

@jwt-nu3ei

Жыл бұрын

@@joalvarado8506 The guy's on tape hitting a 36.5 vertical straight after running 40s. Here - kzread.infofLu9yzCggCM

9:54 the lady's excitement for his lift was truly amazing😆

@awemanyfit

Жыл бұрын

She looks Chinese

I've noticed a lot of hunger in the following 24h after a squat deadlift leg day. Saying that a exercise is bad because it gives hunger seems so wrong to me, if anything I have the opposite idea, the fact that an exercise is so demanding that you feel hungry for hours after doing it means it has taken to your limit and will give great gains. And btw, your hamstrings and glutes are looking great and huge in those leg workouts, Geoff.

@danieltemelkovski9828

Жыл бұрын

You have to keep your goals clear in your mind. If you want to stay as lean as possible, then avoiding activities that increase your hunger makes perfect sense. On the other hand, if you wanna get big and have trouble eating enough, then an exercise that stimulates hunger is exactly what you'd want.

99% of fitness influencers should just do calf raises every day for a year straight and nothing else lmao

People are inspired by the GVS’s training intensity 🤣👍

Spent over a decade religiously squatting and dead lifting. Sessions take forever. Injuries occurring more often then I would like. I'm 6ft6 and really started feeling the strain on my lower back. After a while I ditched them completely. Never felt better. Have plenty of time to do more for my lower body. Rarely if ever get injured and when I do it's a little strain here and there. Saying this, my legs and glutes have always been very developed. It's in my genetics. Squats and deads are great if you are a performance athlete. But if you just want to look good and stay healthy I don't think they are needed unless you really love doing them and have no issues.

@idontcare9041

Жыл бұрын

That's interesting. The reasons I like deadlifts is because it works so many muscles at once that I can save me some time. I kinda like how exhausting it is too. Now that I'm getting a bit older I'm keeping the weights lower, there's no point using high weights unless you're a powerlifter.

@TheYoungMuTe

Жыл бұрын

@@idontcare9041 exactly what im doing. Idk just doesnt feel right to abandon squats and deads. But trying to hit crazy pr’s is just not for me anymore. Health over everything

@ham5483

10 ай бұрын

Im 6'5 and always get lower back pain when deadlifting regardless of form

@hhkk6155

9 ай бұрын

​@@idontcare9041deadlift works many muscles, but does it actually grow anything apart from the lower back, or ass ? 😅😅😅

Hey man. Great content and your stuff has really been helping with my goals. Thank you!

Initial thoughts: When it comes to legs starting points vary a lot imo, if you have naturally strong/meaty legs you can probably get by some time with ignoring them, if you start with bona fide chicken legs you cannot.

@Shvabicu

Жыл бұрын

Long femur gang always starts out with chicken legs

@naughtiousmaximus7853

Жыл бұрын

@@Shvabicu Short femur gang here with meaty legs. My starting squat was 135lbs LMFAO

@Shvabicu

Жыл бұрын

@@naughtiousmaximus7853 that's better than all those 90 lbs half reppers with their pussy pads around the bar

@Han-nk3io

Жыл бұрын

​@@naughtiousmaximus7853 my starting squat was 185 for 8 i was 130lbs at that point.

@Han-nk3io

Жыл бұрын

I am short and if i train legs too much my lower body always grow faster than my upper body so i simply can not afford to train legs that much

Love your videos. Keep them coming!

I think Natural hypertrophy was right when he said that all you need at the core for legs is 1) some kind of standing knee flexion 2) a hip hinge No exercise is magical it just needs to cover the right movement pattern for the muscle you are trying to grow.

When Jeff trains he looks wolverine during a rage scene. That kind of intensity is unique😂

Sometimes, it's about fatigue to stimulus ratio. I swapped back squats and deads for front squats and stiff deads. Generally, lower loads used but different stimulus.

I stuck with squats way too long because I thought I had to, even though my knees and hips were dying. In the name of “not being a pussy” I put myself through too many injuries. When I stopped squatting and just started doing the leg press as my main leg movement I started to actually make progress. I love deadlifts of every kind, though.

@utgardkraft1412

Жыл бұрын

Are you a certified lank lord as myself? Squats bother me to no end but I can do deadlifts and its variations every damn day.

@0dayExploit

Жыл бұрын

@@utgardkraft1412 yessir. Torso of 5’ person and limbs of a 6’ person, mixed with extremely small joints and some bad joint health genetics. Can’t do anything about any of those so I have to be picky about exercise selection

@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy

Жыл бұрын

Some people just aren't built for barbell back squats or deadlifts off the floor, despite what people like Mark Rippetoe say. Telling these people to just keep hammering away at these exercises despite repeated problems is terrible advice. Not everyone needs to or should train like a powerlifter, especially if their goal is muscle over strength. Powerlifting training is so much harder, more taxing, more time consuming, basically demands that you eat a ton and get fat to keep progressing, and has so many more potential problems. The powerlifting takeover of online weight lifting over the last decade has done such a disservice to so many guys.

@utgardkraft1412

Жыл бұрын

​@@0dayExploit I seem to be able to do low volume front squats if I am careful with execution. Might want to try that, or maybe zerchers if you enjoy bruised forearms.

@andrek6920

Жыл бұрын

Btw, have you tried changing your stance width or foot rotation on back squats? Perhaps you have but if you havent that might actually be useful for being able to squat more weight, more safely and with less stress on your joints. If you want to still squat at all that is. People have vastly different optimal squat positions though, some people squat with a narrow stance and toes pointed forwards, others squat optimally with a wide stance and toes flared to the sides. Some with a narrow stance and flared feet, some with a wide stance and straight feet. And everything inbetween. And there will also be differences in front squat and back squat ontop of that.

2:50 Also Testosterone follows a diurnal pattern (Highest in the morning, lowest at night) regardless if you work your legs or not.

The “what about your stabilizers!” bit got me lol. I used to say the exact same thing. Maturing as a gym-goer is realizing that, unless you’re training for a powerlifting comp, SBD are not necessary or even efficient.

@someone-ji2zb

Жыл бұрын

Calisthenics can handle that side of things quite well. At the end of the day, does someone want a functional body, or a more aesthetic one? You get big with heavy weightlifting, but you can pull off some insane movement with intense calisthenic training that I was never able to get with typical weightlifting routines. To each their own at the end of the day. I suppose doing everything would be ideal, but it just isn't realistic in regards to time and energy expended.

@legrandfromage9682

3 ай бұрын

They’re necessary if you want to be horsecock strong

I've been SBD for 20 years straight. My back is fucked and my knees can't take much more. My best all time at 168-70lbs was 620 deadlift, 590 squat, 360 bench. About 8 months ago I decide to say fuck it and stop. Best decision I've ever made. Stopped heavy squats and conventional dead lifts. I started focusing more of body building instead of power lifting and I've so far gained 15lbs and look quite a bit better and my strength has about stayed the same. I was the same weight from high school until I was 34 years old +/- 10 lbs. I'm now currently sitting at 185lbs with visible abs, striated glutes and a nice looking back. Unless you are specifically power lifting to compete there is no point in going heavy. Anything under a set of 5 is silly and doesn't do as much as a set of 8-12. Also, I'm only 30 seconds into the video but I wanted to post this before I forget to.

@Dennis-du4jh

6 ай бұрын

This is so true, I simply no longer see the point of powerlifting exercises if your goal is aesthetic and general health. This is why I decided to remove those exercises from my workout starting January

Oh my body's doing a barbell squat... I haven't been to the gym in a few months. At first I was so worried about those gains bro. Then I realized how much my body was absolutely needing and appreciating the rest. Now it's time to grind again, but the rest has been another lesson along the journey. I appreciate your common sense approach to training.

Also you know the people that were clowning on him for not squatting or deadlifting, at least half of them dont train calves. I already have meaty legs so my lower body day is pretty minimal but I train calves 2-3 times a week so don't get chicken legs lol

For years I felt like I needed to squat and deadlift despite not liking them. However, I recently got an MRI and found out I have FAI and severe labrum tears. Now I don't feel bad skipping squats and deads, and am actually starting to enjoy leg training.

Great video, couldn't agree more about people projecting their own goals onto others

Pistol squats are the shit! Do them on a surface elevated at least 6 inch for full range of motion… load with dumbbells in your hands, which fixes any balance issue and let’s you grind out heavy ass sets. I’ve worked my way up to 11 reps with 35lb dumbbells. It’s also a great option for remote training that will help you retain size and strength if you have to be away from the gym for a while

@jplift247

Жыл бұрын

Word! Pistols are underrated. I can tell you there is nothing like a hard set of pistols. The only issue i have with them is mobility, i need to do them elevated on a box or bench but i also need to elevate my heels and i use dumbells are a counterbalance. so it's really hard for me to really load em up. Still they work the heck out of my quads and glutes. But to honest i prefer Skater Squats which are basically single leg squats but with the non working leg behind the body. Kinda like a reverse lunge but with back foot not touching the floor. You can load it like regular Reverse lunges and Bulgarians using dumbells and i can do 3 sets of 12 with 35 lbs which is brutal.

I stopped utilizing deadlift and barbell squat and started using Belt Squat + barbell rows and that has eliminated all my lower back issues

I’ve been doing an upper body body part specialization phase for over a year. Doing high frequency and really enjoying it.

Your hamstrings have come up massively man, goddamn. Also, happy to see you running ads on your channel, a man's gotta eat

I became a big fan to sled pulling (belt around waist and walking backwards) - kinda hits my upper glutes and quads quite a bit. Also calfs as well. Gotta incorporate Bulgarian split squats somewhere as well. Thanks for the video.

long awaited video

The only thing I skip on leg day is recovery

@klaus6091

Жыл бұрын

based and herniateddiskpilled

@newme1589

Жыл бұрын

Leg day everyday. Recovery is for another day.

@Shvabicu

Жыл бұрын

​@@newme1589 Ivan Djuric agrees

100% agree with Kinobody, compare his physique to some one like Will Tenneson who wont stop growing his legs to comical proportions. When I was younger I was the squat guy, great Im exhausted and my legs are bigger no one really notices but now jeans fit poorly.

@KC-lg8qf

Жыл бұрын

facts!!

@hhkk6155

9 ай бұрын

Yup 👍💯 or getting a really big ass, like what's the point? And big legs only look big in really short short 😅😅😅 something longer and nobody sees your legs (and may tell you they are small 😅) , lower back is another invisible 🫥 muscle 😢 Kinobody physic is 🔥🔥🔥

Agreed. I do my leg work almost completely backwards from most lifters- high volume isolation exercises to pre-fatigue the muscles and then going to barbell squats with a heavy focus on quad engagement. My strategy is to ensure I "fail from my legs" and not my back. It seems to work because my legs have gotten quite massive to the point where it is nearly impossible for me to find pants.

@someone-ji2zb

Жыл бұрын

Just thinking about that makes me tired lol

@bradturner7678

8 ай бұрын

took a nap half way through reading this.

I recently injured my back pretty bad deadlifting (I was training powerbuilding, mostly powerlifting focused) and have decided to stop training for powerlifting indefinitely. I was never intending to compete and just did it out of fun, but lately my lifestyle makes it hard to progress in strength and that added to the increased injury risk of heavy squatting and deadlifting has put me off those movements quite a bit. After a month of active recovery I'm going to do more bodybuilding focused training while replacing conventional deadlifts and back squats with romanian deadlifts and front squats respectively, and I expect to start enjoying my training again and slowly regaining confidence in my body's ability to move. Thanks for the video, came at a very appropriate time and helped with the fomo of not doing the powerlifts

3:30 not Marco 💀 his physique reflects his training, not a good example. Is weird because in one hand, he copes pretty hard, on the other hand, he has a big ego, while not getting great results. Coping saying how old he is and can't do what young people do, when he's actually in his late 30s almost 40, while +50 year old people outlift him with no excuses. 20 years lifting, yet can't do full rom squats because "muh joints are old", can't bench 135lbs, doesn't deadlift because he doesn't know how to program them (Yes, he has a video explaining how confused he is with deadlift) Claims to do "ultra high volume" that doesn't make sense and no one could ever do, when he's actually doing between 25-30 weekly sets per muscle, claims to he a noble natty while disliking them and supporting ped users... and the list goes on... too many red flags

Came for the video content, stayed for the awesome word plays. Also you know you've made it when you get spectators during a set.

Wow why haven’t I heard of Boostcamp before

I went from being heavily focusing on leg training (used to squat 4 plates ATG) to barely doing any direct leg workouts outside of cardio type stuff outside. Things like cycling and hiking up mountains. Once in a while I'll do a direct leg session focusing on single leg movements, but this is more for the cardiovascular benefit and the disciple gains. Heavy squat training simply takes away more than it gives in return. The fatigue generated is just not worth it. You need to schedule your physical activities around your leg training which actually ends up being detrimental to your overall ability to be as active as possible. My legs are smaller but overall they look more defined and my entire physique looks much more aesthetic because I am actually able to dedicate time to cardio without worrying about my squats going to trash. If aesthetics are the goal, then heavy squats can potentially set you back.

@andrewreed1329

Жыл бұрын

i have found cycling has grown my legs and i would onky front squat every few weeks at lighter weights, but i have one leg bigger than the other so am unilateral leg pressing

@tylerriggs95

11 ай бұрын

My main problem with the big 2 leg exercises is how much it hampers my performance for literally any other activity. I’d rather be active enjoying my sports 2-3 times a week rather than always playing with sore legs.

Dead’s and squats are my favourites. But they take a lot out of your other lifts on any given day. So I can see an argument for removing it and using more specific exercises in some situations if you are bodybuilding and want to focus more effort on fixing weaknesses for example. I’m not going to do that, I’d rather do a few sets of squats or deadlifts on a day then do 4 exercises for multiple sets to replace it but we all work differently so if it works for you, go for it I guess.

The outro is dope

I agree with Greg in that it can eat up muscle growth for areas one may prioritise. Stimulus is one part of the equation with muscle gain. Another is adequate calories and protein. Those nutrients have to be allocated to your muscles for growth, so if one is breaking down a disproportionate amount of muscle from squats and deadlifts, it will impact gains in other areas.

@Ottoni174

Жыл бұрын

but if you're squatting and dling you will end up needing more food overall, you lift more so you eat more, but i agree with him just because big legs looks weird as fuck unless you're have a really solid upper body build

@UnknownUser-nu8ny

4 ай бұрын

@@Ottoni174yea but if you eat more overall it will ramp up your metabolism which will cascade into into over driving especially if you’re lean like Greg. Your body won’t just say “hey let’s bring up your metabolism to support squatting and your other exercises only” what it will do is bring up your metabolism to do that AND say “hey you’re lean too let’s bring your metabolism up so you can have more energy storages aka fat since you obviously need the added energy to do your tasks.” The body doesn’t know you can get consistent food so it will always for e more fat in order to prepare for a drought.

@Ottoni174

4 ай бұрын

@@UnknownUser-nu8ny which in the end is exactly what i said, when you exercise hard and eat you build muscle so you need more food

"when I stopped squatting heavy" bro you never started

Great video.

5 years working out seriously, in my 3rd year I didn't directly train legs aside from biking because my ass was getting too big lmao but I eventually carried on directly training them the next year onwards

It all depends on what is fun for you (at least thats my opinion on working out, if you have a specific goal then hey do that). I personally love barbell squats and if my gym had any squat machine I would use those too. my leg day consists of high bar squats, front squats (on hypertrophy day), sled pulls, bulgarians, leg extensions, yoga ball hamstring curls, RDLs, laying leg curls, standing leg curls, and standing tempo calf raises. These have given me CRAZY leg size and strength and I dont even deadlift. I found that doing heavy deadlifts compromised my other lifts from other exercises and combined with heavy squats my body just could not function with the amount of load on my spine. My body can handle a heavy bench and heavy squat day in the same week without compromising my other lifts and my back has still grown and my lats are insane, ive pretty much maxed out on lat pulldowns (I do tempo lat pulldowns for 8), I do pull ups, barbell rows and rack pulls (on very rare occasions. When my friends convince me to deadlift I still end up PRing every single time, so no you do not need to deadlift, bench or squat, but I love squats and im genetically gifted with strong shoulders triceps and chest from my dad so bench, dips and OHP are easy and fun.

I hit a plateau on rdl and adding in deadlifts actually helped me break through the plateau, so i think all exercises could be helpful even if only muscle growth is the goal. now i am not attached to the deadlifts and i am not doing them now in my routine but who knows maybe in future i might need to add them again

@dogbreedsareamyth9409

Жыл бұрын

But too be fair, goos mornings would have also certainly done just as good a job as convenientional dl with less fatigue

@rg_elite_training

Жыл бұрын

@@dogbreedsareamyth9409 yes, maybe good mornings would have worked, but I tried deadlifts and they got the job done for me.

@Spike00773

Жыл бұрын

You don't know if you would have broken through the plateau even if you didn't add the conv. Deadlift though

@ryantyniec1081

Жыл бұрын

Nice. My overall strategy is deadlifts for pure strength gains, which then allow me to more easily progress on rdls, which I use for muscle building. It's been working well for me so far.

@rg_elite_training

Жыл бұрын

@@ryantyniec1081 exactly my mindset, also i do notice better back gains when pulling weights from dead stop position like deadlifts and snatch grip deadlift.

Everybody can do what they want based on goals. You will be fine . I do heavy squats and deadlifts because my legs and back grow best doing heavy compounds...which is different from my upper body which seems to need higher rep isolation stuff to get good growth.

I wish Boostcamp would let you import your workout log

I feel like all beginner lifters should start with the big 3 squats bench and deadlifts just because of the base it builds. A year of these 3 lift built me a foundation where when I pick up almost any exercise I already somewhat have most of that idea on how to use my muscles in the proper way, whereas I feel like someone without that strong base in compound movement wouldn't have that understanding.

you made great points ...I like Greg's content but respect what you got to say.....I think Greg's his leg routine is good......could you post a video of you leg routine with the exercises mapped out so they're easy to follow?...I want to try your leg routine....it seems you got a good one as you got the monster tree trunks and I want hulk legs too(I also want a hulk back and Popeye forearms; my dream-lol)..anyway , once again good video

ive squatted and dead lifted for 15 years, i get it its cool to lift heavy & I also use to think anything else was lame and a waste but, this last year ive moved to RDL and what i call a rack hold Safety bar squat (home gym equivalent of a hack squat i suppose) and those really to give me the same effects as the big 2. T levels, growth, hunger. Ego stopped me when i was younger (maybe lack of experience too) but if any younger guys read this, try it and see. The sooner you realize the quicker you'll thank yourself

My problem with those lifts would have to be the left knee acting out mid-lift. I do a ton of walking and even started doing reverse walks and sleigh pulls to help manage the upper tension, but it'll be a while before I start going heavy on squats

"I want to look like a monster" ~Geoff, 2023

14% bf can be a bad place when you're 14% bf claiming to be at 6%.

Barbell back squat and conventional deadlift are definitely overrated, enough said. I see nothing wrong with what Kinobody said, though I do think high intensity leg volume is super important

@zwryy7622

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't give less of a fuck about deads. RDLs all day. Squats are the most fun movement to do in the gym, tho.

@Hadriantheemperorofrome

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For pussies it is overrated.. For real bodybuilders it is the basics.. Just stay in the hypertrophy rep ranges and dont do PR'S

@cripplingcaffeineaddiction3847

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​@zwryy I reckon if u did sumo deads you'd be a better squatter

@Gianlucca_Chirinos_Chavez

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Eso se debe a que la moda del "crossfit" y el "powerbuilding" han calado fuerte estos últimos 6/7 años. Les hacen creer a los amantes del fitness que estos ejercicios son indispensables en una rutina, que sí no los haces eres un vago pusilánime, cuando hay muchísimas opciones mucho menos riesgosas para generar hipertrofia, y de la buena.

@brianfox340

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If you digest what he said as "those movements are overrated" then that's fine and true, but he's saying they are a detriment, which is wrong. When using them correctly they are great exercises, but we all need to get past this "x movement is NECESSARY for a good physique" garbage.

The joy of hypertrophy training is you can be pretty vibe based. The downside is that can lead people to push a lot of counter-factuals as absolutes based on their personal preferences. "I don't Bench Press and YOU SHOULDN'T EITHER" or some other big compound lift that's great for beginners but can have poor SFR for more advanced physique guys. If your only goal is to look big once you're squats start taking longer to recover from, even at lower intensities then sure, switch to something else. If you are concerned about athletic carry-over then ignore hypertrophy only focused guys. Physique training =/= fitness training, it's much more free form, and has fewer constraints. So just do whatever gets you in the gym and leads to growth. Even if you only skip squats because they're hard, that's fine. Your goal is to look good not be strong, tough or anything else. The appropriate reaction to some guy with a good physique proudly telling you they DON'T do an exercise is "neat". It doesn't mean you shouldn't, you likely have different anthropometry and goals.

the clip of you on the adductor machine was a lot homie

Loving the new book Geoffrey! Lots of great points 💪 Maybe you should share it with kinobody 😉

@GVS

Жыл бұрын

Glad you've been enjoying it!

Quads and Hamstrings looking amazing brother!!!

I like doing them but I'll be glad not to HAVE to anymore. Not because I want to be a lazy lifter, but because I'm getting older and have muscular dystrophy and squats cause discomfort in my shoulders, arms (from tensing up), and back. Even my tibia was starting to ache where my gastrocnemius atrophied away. I pretty much hate doing RDLs because of how it feels on my back. But I love me some lunges, bridges, leg presses, and isolation work.

I remember him saying recently that he's just trying to maintain the muscle he has right now and trains like 2x a week? I might be wrong

Do an interview with Greg would be fun to watch and learn from

1:21 I remember having to explain to people that my cerebral palsy limited my ankle flexibility, making full range squats dang near impossible. Hence the leg press and box squats back in the day

I prefer the v-squat or hack, pre-exhaust with the leg press. I also put dead-lifts in my program, sometimes with the trap bar.. always for reps 8-12

I don’t do traditional squats or deadlifts.

He has aesthetic legs and that's all that matters, considering his focus isn't size or strength, but looks.

Lately I've been thinking to change the hierarchy of my leg training and make barbell step-ups the main exercise. I just think ( and I might be wrong here) that my body really isn't made to do squads. I feel them more on my back ( both in a good way and a bad way) rather than my legs. I also haven't made progress on them in months. With deadlifts I'm ok though, I naturally do them near stiff leged so I guess I work the muscles that I'm aiming for just fine with deadlifts.

@maximopotencial2023

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bro yu shud do andru teit squats

wtf Greg is insane at nordic curls, didn't expect that !

I stopped doing deadlifts just cause they made my workouts too long with proper warm ups and long rest times and I was doing them with a strength mindset when I really wanted hypertrophy which I realized they weren't necessary for.

@brimstonevalar6053

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Same here training for hypertrophy and while I like deadlift it took so much time to set it up and then the recovery from heavy deadlifts sucks

@naughtiousmaximus7853

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This is why RDLs are king of all exercises tbh

@user-jp7ni5xv1r

Жыл бұрын

you also dont have a thick dense back or lower body. your point is what exactly?

This is a great video. Not everyone is trying to be huge. I have an old nagging leg injury so squats and deads are a no go. I train my legs for endurance. Doing 4 sets of 50 body weight squats. I dont want my legs to be big. I do a lot of running and walking daily. I just dont want my legs to get tired. But train my upper body for aesthetics.

9:22 You know you’re on another level when people be ‘mirin

Never thought I'd skip squats and deadlifts side by side with a Kinobody...

Your dips will still go up. It’s a crazy easy movement to get strong on. In the past six months my body weight has gone from 67-73kg and my weighted dip for 7 reps has gone from 27.5 to 50 kg

Your beard grows quick. W genetics!!!

I don't even deadlift anymore, I just do Good Mornings (thanks to Gravity Training) and Nordic curls for hip hinges and ham isolation👌😎

Ever since I took a hard fall playing basketball last year, my back just hasn't been the same after I recovered from about a week of really bad spasms. Had it taken a look at and there's nothing structurally wrong with it, but it's just not as strong ever since. Could just be that I've been getting older and I'm just not recovering as well anymore? It was also not the first back injury I've ever had (mostly from basketball through the years) I've pretty much ditched deadlifting off the floor because my lower back holds back any progression and have just stuck to romanian deadlifts, hamstring curls and hip thrusts for my hinge movements and I actually feel much much better doing those exercises than any sort of deadlifting off the floor. I have tried switching to sumo to see if that would help any but I never really felt comfortable setting up wide on the deadlift. I can't go as heavy as I used to on my conventional deadlift witha ny of the hinging exercises I do now but I feel like my back feels much better in the last 3 months than when I tried to jump back into conventional deadlifting after I got the all clear from my physio around half a year ago now. Somehow I don't have the issue with my back squat so I have kept that as it is still nice to have a really big movement that you can go heavy on and build a workout session around.

"45 minutes into your session, you’ve done 2 working sets for squats" Less talking, more squatting.

I began skipping leg days. I cannot commit to eating more food than I do for now. I feel I can't "feed" them, and it would only contribute to general fatigue, plus I can easily gain or lose leg muscle, and I don't care that much for them, I only use legs for 30+rep squats to do some cardio and get the blood pumping (around the "important area"). But no barbell squats anymore.. In the future I might hang a few weight discs by my belt and squat (I train at home). That hits the quads without the back mess.

muh squats and deads

How does training the quads with a Bulgarian split squat differ from creating appetite? Couldn't the increased cardiovascular demand even up appetite? Intead of doing both legs at once, I split them and "double" the reps whilst putting the same stimulus on my quads and glutes. What am I overlooking?

I'm not sure I agree. What he says makes sense. You have a limit of muscle growth based on your protein intake and recovery. Your body also has a limit of total muscle it can maintain. It makes sense that if you're stimulating less muscle mass, it's easier for your body to maximize the growth on the parts you're stimulating. Maybe it's all related to stimulus and recovery balance, but recovery is finite in any case. As an anecdote, I broke my foot and stopped squatting, deadlifting, and lunging. I didn't change the program at all other than removing these (didnt add anything). Few weeks in and I noticed some triceps and chest gains (my weakest points), which aligns to Kinobody's theory: you can only recover and build so much muscle, so skip legs (huge muscles) to develop a bigger upper body.

cant squat and dead lift like i used to since breaking my back. can still goblet squat and rdl with dumbells to a point. Still miss squating 3 plate for reps

I like the Barbell Back Squat just a bit too much. But I do agree they take up a lot of time and effort. Usually I'll do like a 10 minute walk, and a 30 rep air squat before even starting it to warm myself up. And then I'll do 10 reps for 5 sets at moderate difficulty. Starting at like 155lbs and going up to about 200lbs. Alternatively I might go fairly heavy at least for me between 6-7 reps maxing out at about 265-275lbs. But looking at the clock afterwards I notice that a lot of time seems to pass. Since I usually take at least 2 minutes rest between sets. But even though I'm fatigued...it feels nice in a way. It's like my body telling me, you did good. Deadlifts though I kind of suck at. I've had three lower back surgeries, so it's kind of a mixture of painful, and massive fatigue. I did them 2 days ago, and even though it was a personal PR for me, not that I ever went crazy on the weights at 305lbs for 5 reps. I don't feel very acomplished, and it stresses me out more than just about any other exercise. However like most things when it comes to exercising I tend to want to do what I'm bad at, until I'm at least half way decent. So I kind of want to work on them more. I was doing a lot of RDL's with really slow and controlled movements, I think they helped raise my Deadlifts a little bit, and almost ignored Deadlifts for around 2 months. As my previous highest was 275lbs for 5. (Again never went for a 1rep max) And I honestly felt like I could potentially add more weight to my 305lbs set so thats progress at least!

I wouldn’t do Pullovers, if they were not called “ARNOLD PULLOVERS!” 😂

once i stopped deadlifts my low back pain vanished, Tom platz itself said on some videos that he didnt deadlift at all and didnt recommend it yet he had arguably the best legs in bbding, Kevin levrone also specified to never do deadlifts and the list goes on, squats are amazing but deadlifts aren't necessary tbh

I think one thing worth noting about skipping the hard lifts and focusing on “easy” lifts is that people may have other goals in mind. For example, I go to Law school and the sheer amount of studying during the day means I don’t want to overly tire myself in the gym that would comprise 6-8 hour study sessions.

I don't squat because I have vasovagal syncope. Even with light weights like 60kg, I get lightheaded and can pass out from repeated squatting. And my gym doesn't have a leg press. I do RDLs, lunges, and I run up mountains for leg strength.

I used to like squats but then I started having problems with the knee joints, more specifically my tendons seem to dislike that type of training. Nowadays I'm doing more calisthenics/bar/pull-up exercises.

People just project their goals ideas onto others...standard squats and deads are great. So are a lot of other variations of them. Which one is best depends on you as an individual and your goals. Personally I like working on my physique while simultaneously working on strength and mobility, so my favourites are deep ass front squats and stiff-legged deads or RDLs. I also just enjoy lifting so I'll throw something like Zercher squats and deads in for the difficult. None of this is right or wrong

I can’t stop thinking about how much Geoff looks like Stoick the Vast

@nicowu5562

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Oh my god ur right

I don't know why people feel the need to say "anyone squatting is wrong" or "anyone not squatting is wrong" when it comes to hypertrophy? It's a fantastic exercise with proper programming, but no exercise is a must do.

9:02 these people haven't seen anything like that in their entire lives LOL

Let's not forget the best reason to rag on Greg. The Real Bruce Wayne video.

Deadlifts are a pure strength exercise for me, RDLs are better for development. Squats though are the highest RSM quad exercise by far. They also train my adductors insanely well due to my wider stance.

Hey Geoff!

@GVS

Жыл бұрын

yo yo yo

I avoid standard squats and deadlifts because of a birth defect that make that dangerous for me personally. I do variants/alternatives that are safe personally.

I only do leg press and heavy weighted back extensions because lower body is not a priority and I spun my wheels for years doing back squats and deadlifts while being not suited to them (short arms, injury prone lower back, broken tibia in 3 places during an accident as a teenager). Pants barely fit my legs as it is so I don't see a point of focusing on growing them either.