18:10 Tom Brady. Bottom rose, right in the middle

@MrBallen

3 жыл бұрын

Well done! This one took forever for people to find!

@jojojojo6784

3 жыл бұрын

I believed he had already given the answer.

@tesstickle6462

3 жыл бұрын

How in the world did you see that?

@philippe5523

3 жыл бұрын

Are you really sure sir? Even with holding the original picture of her next to this one it looks exactly the same. Or I am just completely blind

@jburkard2395

3 жыл бұрын

That was good congrats. I would of never seen it. Even after u pointed it out had to watch 3 times to see it

Cindy: Dies Police: She must be faking

@SuperKarl9

3 жыл бұрын

So true. I wish police would take things like that and this seriously:(

@SuperKarl9

3 жыл бұрын

@@Snesgamer yeah but I was meaning for both sides. If she was doing it or someone else was doing it the police should have done something to help her

@iamwhoyousayiam6773

3 жыл бұрын

@@Snesgamer No it couldn't.

@jessicadavenport2808

3 жыл бұрын

RIGHT! How the hell? No shoes, no socks.....feet perfect. No syringe, yet over dose....wtf....

@jbrobertson6052

3 жыл бұрын

Just look at the Vancouver cops history you'll see they've done this more than once

Cops: **annoyed because nothing ever happens whenever they’re surveilling the house** Me: Hm. That IS strange. It’s almost as if...the stalker doesn’t want to get caught by police.....so they wait until the coast is clear. very weird.

@MrCappuccino993

3 жыл бұрын

hmm, ah yes, the floor is made of floor.

@curiouscuriouser2670

3 жыл бұрын

😁

@therealdeal3672

3 жыл бұрын

Who would have thunk?

@curiouscuriouser2670

3 жыл бұрын

@Joshua Greenspan 😮😯😲🤫

@Gavs_Playlist9755

3 жыл бұрын

Thats what i was thinking who would stalk someone when they know the cops are there

This story is so incredibly frustrating 😭 For them to actually declare this a suicide after failing her so badly for so many years is just disgusting 😳

@DeathWolf88888

Жыл бұрын

FR, they just didn't want to admit they were wrong. They should have definitely left her case open and not what they did ACAB

@LL-hc3zm

Жыл бұрын

police and or politicians were involved

@tomkee4479

Жыл бұрын

@@LL-hc3zm u are dead on with that one!! , almost wouod bet money on it

@LL-hc3zm

Жыл бұрын

@@tomkee4479 I can't remember the other story Ballen told where a group of friends (maybe just two) the sheriff had a conflict of interest in the case but this reminded me of that

@rs-mt6kl

10 ай бұрын

So I gotta say, he left a LOT out for the views and fear factor. Stephanie Harlowe does an excellent deep dive into it, she's also known as Cindy James. She definitely had histrionic personality disorder imo.

Did police ever check the call records of Cindy's telephone to determine, whether she was really getting those calls? If yes, from which number was she getting the calls? Did the police never bothered to call up the telephone company and check the details? This is the most important question i felt unanswered in the video

@marksmith164

Жыл бұрын

That's a good question, but I have one for you... would they have been able to do that in 1982? I genuinely don't know, which is why I'm asking.

@timelkin838

Жыл бұрын

@@marksmith164 I imagine the caller would of used a pay phone but I am not sure either. I don't know if they could trace calls like that back then. I think they could of located the caller if they set it up though.

@marksmith164

Жыл бұрын

@@timelkin838 Or at the very least, provide them with a general localised area, helping to narrow down the search a little. Maybe.

@bymysidebrits1701

Жыл бұрын

How would the stalker have gotten her phone number right after she changed it too??

@timelkin838

Жыл бұрын

@@bymysidebrits1701 That's why it makes sense that it's the boyfriend that was a police officer or at least someone close to her. A police officer would also have access to drugs and be able to test or know it potency. I'm speculating because I'm stumped. It's seems like it's so obvious but with all the possibilities I'm just not certain.

Hello!! This story is actually about my aunt, so i thought i’d come on here and say thank you for covering her story is a non biased way. I never met her, but my family has dealt with a lot of trauma because of what happened. It pains me to think people didn’t believe her and thought she staged it all, but I am glad the general public can see that she wasn’t what the police made her out to be. Anyways, thank you for sharing the story and being as respectful as you were about it. :)

@bannedvideos3399

3 жыл бұрын

Hope ya aunt found peace :)

@samanthaburket5753

3 жыл бұрын

I hope one day there is justice for Cindy. Your family needs peace. ❤

@SuperKarl9

3 жыл бұрын

RIP your aunt hope she and your fam find peace and justice. 😇

@jbrobertson6052

3 жыл бұрын

I believe her 100% I know about the Vancouver cops history they are useless and because of their mistakes they've caused a lot of women to be murdered

@SuperKarl9

3 жыл бұрын

@@jbrobertson6052 maybe their the masterminds behind it all... 😱 also hi again!

Me: *clicks on unsolvable mysteries* Also me: *gets mad when the mystery is unsolved*

@maryam-sk8hp

3 жыл бұрын

Thats why its called unsolved and mystery meaning nobody knows !! 🤭🤭🤭 The voice tho its bloody creepy Unless she is stalking herself I think its a cop

@brandyvandergriff2190

3 жыл бұрын

I feel ya

@melodytyleighh

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@randomshitposting621

3 жыл бұрын

OMG :D

@medicineforthesoul3225

3 жыл бұрын

Haha everytime!

There is another still ongoing case in the US where a woman died and it has been labeled as a suicide, but…it is almost impossible. Her name is Ellen Rae Greenberg-from Philadelphia.

@maryeckel9682

Жыл бұрын

That one drives me crazy! It had to be the husband.

@Sweetceripie

5 ай бұрын

Subhanallah ! Iv just watched it. Unbelievably horrendous !

@Halifar2693

18 күн бұрын

Wait, you don't think she stabbed herself 20 times, ten of which in the back and neck? noooooooo way! Must have been her! Police said so and this time it is even in the US of A, where we have plenty of prove that the police lies. Although one of the forensic scientists saying, that it was definitely a homicide, also fabricated evidence that put two teenagers behind bars for 30 years, soooo. Also, after your fiance with whom you had send out std's (save the dates) for the wedding died of 20 stab wounds (or before she was stabbed) and you discovered her and it is ruled a suicide and three years later you are happily married? Strong will or simply the murderer?

As a woman who has been secretly recorded, blackmailed w said recording, kidnapped, beaten, s.a'd, threatened with a gun, and stalked by my ex, i cannot imagine the fear she endured on top of the cops openly telling her shes staging everything and making it up. Breaks my heart she went through that.

@ethanshattuck

4 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry that you went through that.

@mariatheis209

2 ай бұрын

I'm sorry you had to survive that. I had very little help with a past psycho also. It makes me wonder if they figured out it was the cop ex boyfriend.

@mememinexdd4843

13 күн бұрын

LIAR

Medical examiner: Yeah this definitely wasn’t a suicide Police: Nah bro trust me

@brandonmarquette9612

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahaha

@brandonmarquette9612

3 жыл бұрын

It doesn’t make sense that the cops didn’t fingerprint a single thing in ALL 3 or 4 incidents?!? WTF!!!! Why?!?

@TAMAGOO666

3 жыл бұрын

@@brandonmarquette9612 easy cop corruption

@olliecrow3547

3 жыл бұрын

Medical examiner never said it was definitely not a suicide. They said they couldn't say it was or wasn't suicide.

@TheMookie1590

2 жыл бұрын

cop most likely did it, honestly

She had a detective/police boyfriend and the stalker activity only happened when he was away or when the police detail were changing shifts and the scene was always clean.....how was that guy not a suspect?

@abeladam5997

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewb9409 That does not absolve him of suspicion.

@emz33

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewb9409 he could be a stalker that worked his way into her life. Doesn’t really mean much about when it all started

@sayokochan3500

2 жыл бұрын

yepp and i thought that maybe there was someone manipulating everyone into thinking she had been faking everything behind her back and that person could be anyone of the people you mentioned since they would be close with the other police.

@realestdaddymac5974

2 жыл бұрын

Because he is a perfect human being. He could never do anything g wrong It’s just not possible.

@lygiabird6988

2 жыл бұрын

Police protect their own unfortunately

As a former Vancouver resident, I am well aware of the documented incompetence of the Vancouver police force. A decorated police veteran had pinpointed Canadian serial k*ller Robert Pickerton a good year before he was caught. Or at least pinpointed that his pig farm was a central location between all of the Murders. And the police force itself was subjected to public inquiry and slammed for allowing 49 women (a statement Pickton made after incarceration) to be ruthlessly murdered and their bodies eaten by his pigs.

"The Police got tired of her and stop responding to her calls" just made me mad. They are there to protect and serve. How can they just ignore her like that? And of course they didn't see and stalking activity, that guy was clearly a pro or a very smart person. He wouldn't just come to her property when it was under surveillance.

@DarkSamurai-

Жыл бұрын

It was a suicide.

@jonhedges9422

10 ай бұрын

The police definitely didn't ignore her. They spent hundreds of hours staking out her residences and investigating her claims over a period of seven years. I highly recommend the book "The Deaths of Cindy James" by Neal Hall, a local reporter who covered the case. I was once adamant that foul play was involved but now I tend to think it was most likely a suicide.

@toxin7111

8 ай бұрын

​@jonhedges9422 they still shouldn't have stopped attending to her calls. What if she called for a different reason? How can the police deny help? I understand that it's hard to keep surveillance on a person continuously without any results, but openly denying help is just unprofessional

@jonhedges9422

8 ай бұрын

@@toxin7111 The police never denied her help. They were still responding to her claims in the month prior to her death, bringing bloodhounds to her house to try to track another reported intruder. Seriously go read up on the case, there's a lot of information out there.

@MichaelWest1996

7 күн бұрын

@@DarkSamurai-wow, then it’s solved because you said it was suicide! You’ve solved it!

‘A knot expert was able to put himself in the same position’ A professional gymnast was able to do a cartwheel.

@needtopoonow308

2 жыл бұрын

@Wesley D. de los Santos hah, he has bad reasoning, not bad grammar✊

@sallykauth2115

2 жыл бұрын

@NeedToPooNow Why do you think Mr. Ballen has bad reasoning?

@KashiGirl911

2 жыл бұрын

@Wesley D. de los Santos Me too! :p

@needtopoonow308

2 жыл бұрын

@@sallykauth2115 It was a joke and I haven’t watched this in ages so I can’t say exactly lmao, but I think it’s along the lines of ‘obviously a knot expert can put himself in the same position, he’s an expert at it’, but above all else, ‘twas a joke

@sallykauth2115

2 жыл бұрын

@@needtopoonow308 Oh my goodness. No need to explain @Wesley D. de los Santos' joke. I actually "liked" it. I completely understand the wordplay involved between the two homophones "knot" and "not,"

“ when the police were there , there was NO stalker activity, the second the police left the stalker would come back “ hmm wow, almost like maybe he didn’t want to get caught !! lol

@willr6887

2 жыл бұрын

It's the same reason you don't see Clark Kent and Superman in the same room. The cop ex-bf was conveniently never questioned, too. License to kill, I guess.

@esined2386

2 жыл бұрын

@K Ker you know I’m starting to wonder why none of the neighbors ever saw even a little bit of what happened

@NODnuke45

2 жыл бұрын

Almost like whoever did it knew the police schedule, which means they were either law enforcement themselves, or they were always at Cindy's house and knew when the police left.

@garrettl8247

2 жыл бұрын

you do know that the cops wouldn't tell the stalker when they are leaving and they wouldn't just be sitting outside out in the open, they would be hiding for that sole reason.

@celeste.cutz2020

2 жыл бұрын

Or it could have been a police officer that was off duty and knew the shift change.

that stalker definitely had some type of connection with the police. this case makes me sick because of how they neglected her. sad story man

@wildyato3737

2 ай бұрын

I do think a whole cult is in this mess..how the hell neighbor don't watch someone House?

@Rhettelios

2 күн бұрын

It's easy to jump on 'police are incompetent' train, but I know people who act like this. She was clearly looking for attention. The more she feels invalidated by the refusal of others to believe her lies, the more desperate she is for her story to somehow be true.

Sorry this took so long... tHe BaD mAn GoT mE yesterday and so this video went under review. Luckily it just cleared. Enjoy!

@virgilearpgaming4342

3 жыл бұрын

Epic video epic

@van5395

3 жыл бұрын

You sir, have impeccable timing

@ncherise74

3 жыл бұрын

It got cleared in just enough time to make my morning. Thanks @MrBallen!!!

@vrokendagger3052

3 жыл бұрын

thx for being a youtuber

@JKaiserable

3 жыл бұрын

KZread better lock it up.

They really would rather think this woman was a professional knot tie expert, drug addict, arson, crazy, and a levitating magician before considering that there was an actual stalker

@MysticGwen

3 жыл бұрын

😆 true

@wakeywakey3762

3 жыл бұрын

Right?!

@wakeywakey3762

3 жыл бұрын

@@mauricioduran6015 Pretty gross generalization

@wakeywakey3762

3 жыл бұрын

@@mauricioduran6015 Only in your feeble mind. You don’t like cops, why not just say it? I love them

@bayardkyyako7427

3 жыл бұрын

@@mauricioduran6015 Okay Q

Watching this 3 years after it was posted. You’ve come so far! Proud of you.

@moonspun4evr

4 ай бұрын

Same

I actually lost it when they said, she tied herself up after injecting herself with a lethal dose of morphine...

@brendasindylek6295

Жыл бұрын

Pretty rich huh? I'm still dumbstruck!

@wildyato3737

2 ай бұрын

Even if she before or after. both scenario are nearly impossible

@snoopybrown9326

19 күн бұрын

Also, where would she have gotten this morphine and syringes? Did they even check that out? What about those prints they didn't bother to take? I've never heard of prints not being taken at a crime scene, even a questionable one. Clean feet, no shoes. Lethal injection, no needle or morphine nearby. I tell you now, I could not tie my hands behind my own back tightly.

The cops didn’t believe her, so they didn’t run prints on the knife. Even if you think this lady is full of it just do your damn job to the minimal amount required please…

@chescarolfe2280

2 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏 say it louder for the back 😂

@rebeccap4062

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, and someone got away with murder because of it!

@user-vv4um2be1j

2 жыл бұрын

Foul play, police officers involved.

@PuMaRaping

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-vv4um2be1j It would require huge amounts of time to stalk someone like this, if you start to think about it. That leads me to conclusion that it could have been either someone who was paid for it or someone that didn't have other things to do or could easily make himself available anytime. This alone would be enough for police to find out who the stalker could have been, but nobody really investigated this maybe because of possible negligence of these police departments. But I can't say anything for sure if I wasn't there.

@ayushmoudgil9345

2 жыл бұрын

They should have run prints.....it's possible that her ex-husband was wearing gloves or something but even if they found just her prints they could have told her the same......it could have been inconclusive but still running the prints would have given them a clearer picture!!!

A knot expert was able to tie himself up that way?! No shit!! "We aren't sure how this young man's body ended up on that roof, so we hired Tony Hawk to launch himself up there, thus proving the man got there himself"

@jacquelyn4655

2 жыл бұрын

That was my thought!

@scpy4346

2 жыл бұрын

This is a lady who had this obsession for a long long time and sacrificed a lot to make people believe her. It is very easy to believe she could have spent a few days studying knots in order to make her own story more believable. Knots aren't that hard to learn if you actually study.

@lunagoodhart5489

2 жыл бұрын

@@scpy4346 this was pre internet days and no evidence was ever found that she did this. Police are lazy, inept and lack integrity. They find only what they want to find. They do cover-up for themselves & others. This was at a time when stalking woman was easy & perpetrators knew they'd get away with it. Pretty much the same as these days

@TheZINGularity

2 жыл бұрын

As an opioid IV user, if you inject yourself there is absolutely & and i mean no fucking way that you would have the time to ditch the needle and tie yourself up. The amount of time it takes for the drug to finish the come up and peak is less than 10 seconds.

@Krullmatic

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheZINGularity I'm a recovering dope fiend. They didn't say whether it was in a vein or muscle. If it was in a vein, I agree she wouldn't have had time, but if it was I.M., then she would've had time, because it would have taken awhile to absorb in the bloodstream.

The moment I heard about the dead cats, as a cat lover, that breaks my heart😢😢😢 Whoever the one that was responsible for this torment is pure evil and I hope they rot in hell😡😡😡

@lorihowell1032

13 күн бұрын

I had the same reaction.

Bless her heart. Poor Cindy must have been so terrified and to be brushed off by the police is maddening and sickening at the same time. Basically, she had no one to help her and that is unacceptable. To be blamed for your own stalking and then to be murdered and still be brushed off and not believed. It’s just wrong on so many levels and unacceptable. I hope someday the truth will see the light of day. 🙏🏼

No matter who is responsible, clearly this poor woman suffered tremendously and did not get the help she needed and deserved.

@MissSeaSea

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@dorinachan113

3 жыл бұрын

@You're not Awake Not just yet that's canadian Police for ya, they don't help others.

@mylesogletree9462

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah idk cops seem to really have a hard job

@coredream8552

3 жыл бұрын

Gun. And you should probably be vacuuming

@leonieromanes7265

3 жыл бұрын

A similar thing happened to my mum and I, when I was a teenager. We had a guy stalking us for months. Everytime we called the cops, they blew us off. The guy would walk around our house tapping on the windows. We would call the cops, but by the time the cops finally turned up, he was gone. He started to harras several other women in our neighbourhood. THEN the cops took it seriously and brought in dogs. If the cops had believed us initially, the stalkers behaviour wouldn't of exacerbated to harassing half the neighbourhood. What's scary is the police were too incompetent to catch the guy. Even with the help of hundreds of police reports, several eye witness accounts and a team of tracker dogs. Sadly many cops are keystone cops.🍩

The way the police handled this makes my blood boil.

@TSK_Silver

Жыл бұрын

bruh

@DE-YT

Жыл бұрын

If someone told you they've been r**e without any proof what will you do?

@sabastjanadams1829

Жыл бұрын

They should have ALL lost their jobs. Immediately upon her body being found. Worthless sacks of trash. I hope this case haunts all of them until they die.

@_edgy.fish_8717

Жыл бұрын

Same

@joshdyer3270

Жыл бұрын

Welcome too Vancouver

But look how easily they believed the ex husband with a history of toxicity!

That is insanely creepy. I remember watching an episode on Unsolved Mysteries. It reminded me of another episode where this couple who were seniors was stocked for over 10 years. The stalker, attacker always knew when authorities were watching the house, and something happened during a time when they were watching the house, because the predator knew or found a gap in surveillance.

The stalker worked in the police force. He knew when the police werent there.... Was able to find the girl in another state with a different name... Easily convinced other police departments she was crazy... This would all be so simple if the dude was on the force...

@slysampss

3 жыл бұрын

15:54 he mentions ex bf cop.. Your theory holds weight.

@milkywaygaming2415

3 жыл бұрын

@@slysampss But she was being harrassed before she met the first cop

@killap3nguin

3 жыл бұрын

Good job detective. You’re a genius

@emielbourgonje2492

3 жыл бұрын

@@milkywaygaming2415 True, but what if.. what if this was planned before, and the first cop knew her for a while already while she was unaware of it.

@AD-ui6sk

3 жыл бұрын

@@milkywaygaming2415 maybe before she met him, maybe he knew of her and was an obsessed stalker and started this elaborate plan to become her “Hero” coming to protect her but after harassment at work about defending her being “crazy” so he tried not to defend her anymore which caused her to break up with him and moving away, causing him to lash out resulting in her death

The cops actually thought Cindy was making everything up because her stalker wasn’t around when they were around? But if she was being stalked then obviously the stalker knew when the police were at her house… I cannot imagine anything more terrifying than what Cindy went through. Rest In Peace, Cindy. I’m so sorry this happened to you

@BigBlueandWhite

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder why police didn't just use a simple trick that they tell Cindy "Ok we leave now" but they actually leave one cop hiding in her apartment.

@alexblaze8878

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigBlueandWhite because that’s illegal.

@TheZINGularity

2 жыл бұрын

As an opioid IV user, if you inject yourself there is absolutely & and i mean no fucking way that you would have the time to ditch the needle and tie yourself up. The amount of time it takes for the drug to finish the come up and peak is less than 10 seconds.

@BigBlueandWhite

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexblaze8878 Not necessarily... just hide in a place that's not illegal but not too revealing to the streets.

@alexblaze8878

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigBlueandWhite you said “hide in her apartment”. Again, that’s illegal.

So what about the guy standing outside of Cindy’s house when her house caught fire? Once he was noticed by her neighbor, the guy ran away. Isn’t that enough evidence that she was being stalked?

@DeathBlocks

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say so. Could have been someone who was walking around and noticed the fire/the commotion coming from the house and stopped and looked at the house and then ran away when the husband shouted to call 911. Could be that he misheard the man and thought he was accusing him of starting a fire, or someone who was busy doing something wrong so they were on edge, or just some kid who was out when they shouldn't be. Especially since the stalker had obviously been quite good at not being seen before that. I don't think she made it at all up, and that should point towards something going on when the police heard about it, just saying that there are other reasons that part could have happened.

@aceventura5398

Жыл бұрын

Hope i never have you on a jury to decide my guilt. You were at the scene were you not Yes GUILTY !!

@gambitwilsonbillyho953

Жыл бұрын

​@@DeathBlocksWHY would an innocent person run away?!?!? GTFOH

@DeathBlocks

Жыл бұрын

@@gambitwilsonbillyho953 well I mentioned possibilities there. Innocent of starting the fire isn't the same as innocent of any wrongdoing.

@JesseDumontt

7 ай бұрын

​@DeathBlocks I agree with all your points. Hate to say it, but it really does seem far more logical that she was crazy and staged these events. I've commented all my points on why I think that. My gut also says that. I'm very opened minded too.

RIP Cindy. I hope you are at peace. I am really sorry for the loss of your aunt and that one day you get all the answers you need. ❤️

“Cindy dead meat soon” is 100% said in a scratchy woman’s voice

@stephjezo6470

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I thought.....incredibly obvious.

@lucasottens8506

3 жыл бұрын

I'd like to hear a recording of Cindy to compare it to, because it's pretty fucking telling. No wonder the police didn't buy her story.

@beaudoinsoss

3 жыл бұрын

That call is without a doubt either the killer or tied directly to him

@simpletruth9977

3 жыл бұрын

Yep for sure a female voice

@inthelandofmorethansmall7582

3 жыл бұрын

Yes sounded like a smoker...

Things I have learnt from mr ballen: no caves, no scuba diving, no walking alone and no camping

@MrBallen

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@coysmeme9823

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you mr ballen I’m your biggest fan

@coysmeme9823

3 жыл бұрын

You don’t realise what this means to me

@jamespilkington7576

3 жыл бұрын

Memez get a room eh. Haha. Nah he is awsome.

@DragonHeart5150

3 жыл бұрын

Lol! 😀

I couldn’t imagine what she had to go through trying to get help. I’ve had a stalker now for nine years and it really changes you. It makes you very withdrawn and paranoid and people have thought I was crazy as well and exaggerating until they caught him themselves on my property watching me. I wish she would have bought a weapon like I did and prepare her house for the attack. There’s only so much the police can do and so much that they will believe so I have made every preparation that I can for the day he tries to attack me. I’m a good shot too so he would be a fool to try lol

@justkiddin84

Жыл бұрын

Stay safe, prayers for you and your family.

@sadiewilson7053

Жыл бұрын

The cowards never give any fair warning, that's why you never let your guard down, ever! Cuz that one time you do, that'll be the time he strikes. Good luck. Or go defense.. Figure out who your stalker is & start stalking him until the day you can take him out..no more stalker.

@greeneyes9866

Жыл бұрын

You said "had" so did this person stop? Or did you chase him off or whoever saw him? Did you ever see what he looks like? Im sorry you had to go thru this. Hopefully he died lol

@P3rmissionD3ni3d

Жыл бұрын

I hope you live in a stand your ground state.

@sadiewilson7053

Жыл бұрын

@@P3rmissionD3ni3d you're golden if you have your AOJ. Ability, Opportunity, life in Jeopardy. ☮💜

This story blows my mind. Let’s not forget this happens in the 80’s in Canada. Back then women were never ever taken seriously when they were abused or raped. Easier to blame the victim than to put in the effort to find, arrest and convict those responsible.

When I was a young child we spent about 3 years being terrorized by an anonymous stalker who was obsessed with my single mother. The police also dismissed it as fake, and even accused my brother and me of being the ones breaking in and doing things. They never lifted a finger to help. Luckily for us, one day it just stopped. We never knew why it stopped, why it started, or who it was.

@oggyboggy8692

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry your family went through that. It must be so insanely horrible to have these kinds of cases just written off by the people in society who are supposed to protect you. Of course when it comes to violent crimes the easiest/most common answer usually is the correct one but in so many of these retellings you just hear police treat them like there are no other possibilities than what they immediately think of.

@kopawhite1399

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry that happened to you but I hope that person was caught

@treyxyz

3 жыл бұрын

🧢

@mimiadams247

3 жыл бұрын

@Nero Wynn It was a pretty bad time. My brother and I both developed PTSD from it, and to this day we both have extreme hyper vigilance and super sensitive startle responses.

@blakedonnelly678

3 жыл бұрын

I'm real heaps sad to hear what your mother, your brother & you Mimi must've all had of gone through & had to put up with. It really disappoints me that these psychos even exist. Sorry to hear about how the authorities wouldn't believe you or help or even protect you too.. That is their job & in my opinion they at failed it miserably in both cases yours & this. I believe her by the way, despite what anyone thinks or said. You don't inject yourself with an overdose, tie yourself up & run to an abandoned house to then strangle yourself all to stage your murder. It wouldn't be possible. Also they would have found the needle, at least closeby. That guy was too sus standing in the night watching her house burn & if not then why wouldn't he call 911 when asked? Plus noone stabs themselves through their own hand with a pairing knife for that, no matter how elaborate they are trying to make their stalking/death threats seem. I don't believe she had mental problems at all (like schizophrenia) at least not serious ones if she did. I am glad to hear your harassments stopped Mimi. It sounds like he was just a real trash pile perv anyway & mammoth duche w/ a tiny appendage & I'm sorry that he never got caught & had to face the charges for it. He must be f**ked up to do that in the first place, even to think of doing those things let alone going through with them is sick. Even though I'm not saying that's any excuse at all. What always makes me wonder is why don't these people ever think anyone will ever see them, find out or catch them in some way. Or do they simply not care about any consequences? People are always watching just for them to f**k up so they can all make an example of the scumbags. I think & hope they all get tortured to the same extent of their victims & permanently if they won't leave them alone. I would love for someone like this to break into "the wrong sort of guys" house & get what he deserves.. I also hope the guy who did this to you & your family feels like the massive piece of shit (that he is). Also that he finds out exactly what you & everybody else think of him... I mean he has affected you (& your family) in a heaps negative (that could get worse too), for probably your whole life. Good on you & congrats getting through it all though. I would have PTSD too for sure. It'd also prolly have blood-pressured me right up & I'd have had a stress, anxiety or panic attack or just a mental breakdown lol.. Bless you & best of luck to you with working through your problems & condition. I hope it goes away & you get better.. Have a nice rest of your day!.. 🙂

"police set up a surveillance operation on her property" Proceeds to show the background image with police eating donuts in the car.

@AGRGTR09

3 жыл бұрын

Ballen always does his homework

@MSevelynjacobs

3 жыл бұрын

So typical of them isn't it

@ojodami3926

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@leonieromanes7265

3 жыл бұрын

@@ghostdetective311 did they keep her safe, no they blew her off.

@coredream8552

3 жыл бұрын

She was the doughnut. DUN DUN DUNNNNNN

It’s either the ex-husband, Agnes, or the policeman ex-bf. Just really weird that she moved addresses and the stalker still found her

@sarahs3207

Жыл бұрын

I thought agnis to for some reason

@yangduran1663

Жыл бұрын

The "Cindy Dead meat soon" sounds like a woman too, disguising her voice.

@TimmpahS

Жыл бұрын

What is Agnes motive though? The person who did all of these things must of known of the windows of time when the police wasn't watching.

@fexbd

Жыл бұрын

The voicemail was left by a woman

@zoe_wee_mama

11 ай бұрын

​@@sarahs3207Same, the voicemail sounds like a womans voice. Agnes somehow appeared soon after CIndy was attacked several times, as well as Agnes could have set the fire in her own house and told her husband to lie about seeing the 'strange' man outside.

while the D.I.D. answer is more juicy it was 100% that cop, he was probably obsessed with her

I live with DID and I’m honestly not convinced…although truthfully it rarely ends up being like people expect it is. Thank you for the respectful way you spoke of DID, it’s rare for me to see/hear people not treat it as a joke. Much appreciated.

I am a police officer and this story breaks my heart and makes me angry. There is no way she did it herself. There is legit no way she was making any of this up! Absolutely absurd! Those officers failed this poor woman. 🥺

@reggielacey2235

3 жыл бұрын

Your a police with that profile pic? Doubt

@RoseTx

3 жыл бұрын

@@reggielacey2235 I really don't care if you doubt it. I have nothing to prove. I'm human just like everyone else.... We don't dress like robots....

@reggielacey2235

3 жыл бұрын

@@RoseTx ok bro

@RoseTx

3 жыл бұрын

@@reggielacey2235 how exactly do you expect cops to dress? Are we supposed to never fix ourselves up?

@reggielacey2235

3 жыл бұрын

@@RoseTx if by dress up you mean look like snookie then Ok sure. That's like a surfer frat boy oy from Jersey saying he's a cop or something.

“A knot expert was able to put himself in the same position” well yea because he is a knot expert lol dam these people just didnt care to help her

@crazysexybutterfly

3 жыл бұрын

Right?!!!! Not a single f*ck truly given! And also shines a light on how mistreated those who struggle with mental illness can be I feel like. Even if they thought she was mentally ill, they should've done thorough investigation to ensure this I feel.

@joesr.shannavanausdall855

3 жыл бұрын

Bottom line is the cops didn't like her

@solzretrnl7543

3 жыл бұрын

I love his stories and I think he could help some families out there find closure for some unsolved cases

@estieFa

3 жыл бұрын

And the knot expert wasn't out of his mind on morphine.

@twobrokeguyz1214

3 жыл бұрын

@@estieFa - Very good point!

This is horrible. I can't imagine what she felt, all alone because these so called authorities would rather blow her off. I have no words and I pray one day the truth will come out! I think the cop that came out of nowhere and automatically started a relationship with her had a big hand in this. They literally have this woman's blood on their hands!

@non-ya228

Жыл бұрын

And yet they are considered to be our only protection🙄 Truly disheartening

@LAkadian

Жыл бұрын

​@@joshmiller9783 Wow ur very badass and impressive. I worship you, great one.

5.4 million subscribers!! Congrats dude! You're a great story teller, and thank you for your service to our country. Well deserved!

When you’ve already heard a story before but Mr.Ballen explains it 10x better.

@annvassallo2604

3 жыл бұрын

YAAAAS!!!

@theforgotenone8325

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@huskyproductions854

3 жыл бұрын

IKR

@metaphorz8019

3 жыл бұрын

I listen to this to go to sleep that's how good he is

@tracyvslife3124

3 жыл бұрын

Lies bailey Sairian did I spelt it wrong but Mr ballen and Bailey did this stley

As a recovering addict, no way could you shoot a lethal dose even with a high tolerance and hog tie yourself in a way that you have to get a professional knot guy to recreate. Hit that guy with a lethal shot of dope and then let him recreate it. That woman was murdered.

@sams8999

3 жыл бұрын

I battled with opiates years ago. I agree 100% with you. Poor Cindy.

@maireadhammond2972

3 жыл бұрын

Ye 💯 💯 💯

@nathanjones6638

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, but why no traces? I mean, all that time and no footprints? The lack of evidence suggests a background in criminal investigation, but the investigating officer didn't enter her life until after this became a problem.

@mrianwonder6527

3 жыл бұрын

@@nathanjones6638 When the pigs commit the crimes themselves they can simply not put effort into solving a case, or just cover it up.

@lorireed8046

3 жыл бұрын

@@nathanjones6638 Who was the main person still in her life? Her best friend!!! It was her friend!

I love Mr Ballen, so good I can't get enough

This story is unbelievable. In modern times, we now know that people can be motivated to do some ugly, horrendous things for small or perceived slights. Perhaps, someone wanted to date her and she declined. Its mind blowing to assume she would do this when there is evidence that lends credibility to the fact that she most likely was not her own predator/perpetrator. No history of this kind of behavior or of any kind of mental illness. I would have looked into Agnes and Tom, as well as, anyone that surrounded her. The person/persons would only need a small amount of common sense to know not to come to her home and commit crimes while police are parked out front (marked cars, Im sure). That must have been terrifying for her to not even have hope, knowing the police wasnt even seeking a perp. May she RIP. These officers should be ashamed.

So the fact that her best friends husband seen someone standing outside the house after the fire broke out means nothing, huh?!? I feel so sad for her...

@slapbl4ck0ut37

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe he was curious. And when he said "run and call 911" he ran to call 911.. lol

@Sunset553

3 жыл бұрын

@@slapbl4ck0ut37 I thought he just ran.

@risingtide117

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidvasey5065 if a stalker did set the fire, and not Cindy, then it would be a direct attempt on her life with at least some chance of success. As far as they would be aware, this may be the conclusion to all their psychotic effort, so they’d want a good view.

@lightpropulsionguy

3 жыл бұрын

@@risingtide117 I do believe your right, when someone wrongs me I sure like to watch them suffer, I suppose the feeling isn't that much different from a killers

@DarthJermz

3 жыл бұрын

He was the only one that saw him...Hmmmmmmm

Regardless if she had a stalker or not. This poor lady was going thru it.

@piperjaycie

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, even if it was herself doing these things and not knowing, she would still have felt terrified. Fear isn’t just about what is happening it’s the perception of what is happening.

@angelab4652

3 жыл бұрын

That many years of being stalked...just sad and wierd

@jenniferpage53

3 жыл бұрын

It is really sad. I can’t even imagine what she must have been going through. How frustrating. Mr. B always tells the best stories.

@hopehealthhappiness465

3 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed a sad story whether or not she was stalking herself.

@natashamcelwain8607

3 жыл бұрын

@Lee x Yes its how i abbreviate it. Dont know why ur worried about it

Omg i remember his story! I heard it so ewhere else before! I hope you and your family are good and found peace. Definitely a crazy story!

I really wish Mr Ballen was still posting 3 to four times a week. Hell it would be nice to even get 2 videos a week. Once a week is such a bummer.

@carloo69

Жыл бұрын

Agree... Its pretty common though. Channels start out posting as much as they can, then when they go viral and get big viewing numbers, they cut videos down to once or twice a week.. That whole "work smarter, not harder" thing...

@slump_nuggie

Жыл бұрын

@@carloo69 Yeah I get it people need a break. It could definitely be feasible to spit out two 30 min stories a week. He probably wouldn't have to work so hard. It doesn't seem like a major production. Just Mr. Ballen, a camera, a green screen, and his amazing story telling abilities. Maybe the tap is running dry on the stories he finds. Hell, he's told thousands of different stories. It must be getting harder to come across really intriguing things. But regardless people will still watch his once a week videos. He will still make a large amount of money to get to do what he loves. His fans will still be happy that he's at least doing it once a week. Could be once a month. So everyone wins.

The infuriating is, even in the unlikely scenario that she was stalking herself, it would still have been the police's job to investigate and to protect her even if it would have been against herself.

@ANPC-pi9vu

3 жыл бұрын

In theory, but in reality, police exist to catch criminals and enforce the law. You should never trust them to do anything proactive.

@SawSaw-ul8xu

3 жыл бұрын

The unfortunate reality is that police do not offer personal protection or surveillance, but bodyguards do. The FBI provides personal protection in extreme circumstances and the police only provide serious surveillance if crimes are repeatedly committed. The deaths of the cats is probably why the police set up surveillance on her house. Since a crime was being committed on the premises, the police wanted to find out who was killing cats. But they didn't care enough about the cats to continue that expenditure on the city budgets, so I'm sure to very small protest from a cop or two who wanted to protect the cats, the force called off the surveillance. If you ever feel threatened or insecure, professional bodyguards are your extremely costly solution.

@jackiecartwright9343

3 жыл бұрын

For the police to be able to do that, we would need to pay more in taxes so that we could pay them. The same people who complain are often the same ones who don’t want to pay higher taxes.

@alistair158

3 жыл бұрын

Its 1982

@TykeMison_

3 жыл бұрын

@Lanwarder Um. Wat.

Me: "So Cindy is a knot expert, suicidal maniac, arsonist, pathological liar, cat murderer, telephone line vandal...basically everything except an Apollo astronaut?" Police: "Yes." Me: "So Cindy is the victim of a stalker?" Police: "No."

@dsandoval9396

2 жыл бұрын

Where did it say they thought she was a knot expert? Or, did you pull that out of your ass?

@Pythius13

2 жыл бұрын

@@dsandoval9396 Or maybe the specific part of the story where they were talking about how her body was tied up? They had specifically said that the police believed she had done it herself.

@dsandoval9396

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pythius13 Yeah, I heard that part in the video but OP called her a "knot expert". My point is just because you know how to tie a few knots doesn't make you an "expert". Anyone can tie a knot, people learn to tie knots as a child tying their shoes. Point is that it's not some expert skill only a select few know, I'm pretty sure your average office worker knows how to tie knots that tighten on the own.

@zachbinks2473

2 жыл бұрын

@@dsandoval9396 It says in the video that the police brought in a “knot expert” to show that it is possible to tie yourself up the specific way that Cindy did. Apparently none of the police force members could do this to themselves or they wouldn’t have had the need to consult a so called “knot expert.” The person that you replied to was joking that Cindy must have also been a “knot expert” for her to have gotten herself tied up that same way.

@booleah6357

2 жыл бұрын

And did all of that while hopped up on morphine don't forget

Very humbling to see the message from you. There are dozens of great quotes etc in response but I only want to say God Bless you and your family

I love your channel so much, thank you!

My heart breaks for this poor woman. Imagine going so long being terrorized by someone, having no one believe you, and then be murdered. Such a sad life.

@shuffman8094

2 жыл бұрын

And DID occurs by repeated trauma before the age of 6 or 7. (DID does not occur from trauma later in life ). So that means she had been traumatized pretty much her entire life.

@artvulture456

2 жыл бұрын

@@shuffman8094 the DID theory was fucking stupid and probably made up by people on the internet who don't know how DID works. The most "evil" personas are literally just kind of bitchy, that's it. They aren't going to go kill people or somthing, I hate people who think that.

@Veladus

2 жыл бұрын

@@shuffman8094 The DID "theory" is brainmeltingly idiotic. There is literally NO evidence, no matter how flimsy, that supports it. There is a lot of evidence that contradicts it. There's literally exactly as much evidence to say that aliens from another dimension did it than there is to say it was DID. She was murdered. There's no two ways about it. The feet being clean, the needle being missing, her having no time to tie herself up after the injection, the body not being seen earlier (i.e. it was dumped)... there's no way ALL these things are explainable with her having done it herself. None. Absolute zero. Zero kelvin. One, MAYBE two? Extremely unlikely, but possible. But that many? No. Only a moron that's already convinced there was no stalker and is refusing to even consider the possibility they were wrong would even consider this being a suicide. Everyone says ACAB, but we also need ACAR, because it seems All Cops Are Retards.

@seventeenseventythirteen7465

2 жыл бұрын

@@artvulture456 The DID theory is used for people to say "Bitches be crazy" and dismiss this woman, most likely because they're sexist. I mean the cops sure were. To just let someone suffer a stalker because they're "crazy" and making it up, seems like something they'd do, especially if it's a woman. They tend to not take them seriously.

She was stalked and killed they did not do justice for that poor women.

@susanbrown2909

3 жыл бұрын

Typical cops ...too busy drinking coffee n eating doughnuts in a warm office.

@PrayWithoutCreasing

3 жыл бұрын

YES, that’s what I say too...”Sorry A$$ Cops!”

@sparkieemae

3 жыл бұрын

ACAB Bootlickers be like "what are you gonna do when u need 🐽s huh??" This is why I have a gun and adopted German Shepherd/Pitty mix. 🦮🐾🔫

@r6854

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I think the police are good at acting as deterrent, but they are not very good if someone who you don't know singles you out.

@jillcooper6371

3 жыл бұрын

When do they get justice for women?

I only recently discovered your channel man and I must say I absolutely LOVE your content. I've always had a fascination with murder mystery type of programs on TV or unsolved mystery type of things and the way you talk and present each video is TOP NOTCH. So keep up the good work dude!!!

Heartbreaking that the authorities didn’t listen to her.

Cindy: *breathes* Police: pretty sure that's a lie too.

@janinec4444

3 жыл бұрын

@Biden is illegitimate Not impossible.

@justarandomuser8434

3 жыл бұрын

@Biden is illegitimate you clearly don't know what impossible means if you think this is impossible

@xvaldez3284

3 жыл бұрын

Nah the cops are probably just lazy. You won't get no criminal minds level investigation unless you're important, rich or there's a serial killer running around.

@Pwilly1984

3 жыл бұрын

@Biden is illegitimate then answer this... She had a lethal dose of morphine from an iv needle that we both can agree on correct?, the mark was found obviously.... Ok so why wasn't the needle found at her body? The needle was NO WHERE FOUND and she clearly been drugged to kill her. Unless she ate it or shoved it up her own ass somehow, somebody else clearly did this to her. I donno why that's so hard to believe? U can't give yourself a shot like that in the back area(like he said) with her hands tied up... Let alone making sure hitting the vein correctly to make sure its in... That can NOT be done by herself. Unless u can give me a REAL plausible answer on everything I just said.(not picking a fight, I'm just throwing those facts out there and seeing if u can debunk this is all man) then she was killed, not suicide.

@hyrulianqueen4321

3 жыл бұрын

@The wildest Of turkeys He did say though that the dosage she had received was one that would have killed her very quickly. He said that IF she did do this to herself then she would have had to inject it and then immediately get to tying herself up. With it being that high of a dosage how did she hide the needle her socks and shoes without getting dirt on her feet and then proceed to tie herself up all in that time frame?

Imagine being stalked and knowing the police didn't believe you and did nothing to help you. It would be soul shattering.

@jwst8

2 жыл бұрын

she should've moved to south america or something

@kerrysmiles

2 жыл бұрын

Happened to me I had to move across the country :(

@jwst8

2 жыл бұрын

@@kerrysmiles damn, girl.. thank god i'm a man and nobody cares to stalk me, lol

@kerrysmiles

2 жыл бұрын

@@jwst8 men get stalked too. Some people are just sick. Trust your gut. If someone makes you feel uncomfortable listen to yourself.

@nataliamilianku4183

Жыл бұрын

Trust me it's fkd

As someone with DID : the fact that no one realized she had DID is very logical, this is an extremely “hidden” condition. Also full black out are not common in this disorder, even if they still happen for some of us. The DID theory seams realistic to me as I have friends that also almost got killed by another “personality” of theirs (they are actually called alters as they are not really personalities but more identities)

Hi (: I have Dissociative Identity Disorder, and I wanted to share some details about about it to provide important context. People who have DID have PTSD. ‘Splitting’ (or the distinction of parts) happens when a very intense/traumatic event occurs that the individual can’t integrate with the rest of their life experiences up until that point. This trauma happens before the age of 9 and those memories get filed away separately into what we call ‘Parts’. Yes, DID is defined by at least 2 distinct ‘parts’, but there is much more to it than that. Parts are not always fully defined as their own person, and while the memory gaps happen the complete black outs are usually triggered by some trauma or trauma adjacent event. The ‘switches’ in personality are sometimes subtle, but those who were really close to her would have noticed some change in behavior. If she was attacking herself then she would have had points were she wasn’t afraid for her life, which didn’t seem to happen once the events started. Also, switching is not something that people with DID can normally control. After years of therapy and coexistence, it’s easier to tell when those switches happen, but it’s like always being part of a group project. You don’t have control over other peoples input or lack of. Movies like ‘Split’ have created gross stereotypes about this community of humans, and I hope that this comes across as educational and not critical. I love your videos and watching your stories, and with DID being researched so heavily in the last decade, there is still lots of outdated or incomplete information out there. 🙏🏼♥️

@IchBinKajira

4 ай бұрын

I know someone that legitimately has DId and I used to live with her and have known her for over 20 years. At first I didn't know about this, but a mutual friend who was also living with us did. He told me that he suspected that she had DId and I started paying really close attention. I could then tell when she became another "personality ", the changes were very clear to me then. We came to realize that this had to be directly caused by the abuse from her family growing up and from the abuse by her two ex-husbands. She had been abused for at least 40 years. When she was one of her "alters" her voice, mannerisms, personality and even her gait would change, if a person was paying attention you could clearly tell . It wasn't forced changes it was smooth and was very natural. I never thought she was faking and still don't to this day, the switches don't happen much anymore as long as everything is kept on even keel. So imo it's unlikely the lady in the story had this illness or someone would know. I also think the police should be held accountable for her death since they didn't believe her and she was clearly murdered by her stalker, even though it sounds like they tried to cover it up. So horrible she died knowing no one believed her. Love Mr Ballen, great channels. I'm an addict now.

Cindy: *Gets found drugged and dead in a ditch after weeks of being stalked* Cops: "Must've been the wind..."

@LonelyPositionOfNeutral

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@brycekayski9284

3 жыл бұрын

🎯

@snowy_nobody9558

3 жыл бұрын

Poor Cindy

@galaxywolfgamer8837

3 жыл бұрын

Right like oh this looks like the perfect place to shoot up an hog tie myself 🧐

@lethedope9121

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha yeah

I don't even want to get up this early for college classes determining my future in life, but for a Mr. Ballen video, that's different.

@MrBallen

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahah

@beautifulcrazey7713

3 жыл бұрын

There are night jobs 🤷

When you mentioned the police officer boyfriend, I said ‘it was him’ poor lady RIP!

“Dead meat soon.” That voice. It made me shudder and look around the room to double check that I was still alone.

Finally, someone who tells the story at a normal pace without annoying music, tons of ads or ridiculously placed cliff hangers.

@ronmiller6270

3 жыл бұрын

And not a snooze fest

@lynnsandrasannicolas6224

2 жыл бұрын

Amen

Let’s appreciate MrBallen because, despite the significant delay in posting this, he still got this video out. Thank you for your commitment sir!

@MrBallen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Frustrating for sure, but all is right in the world now!

@sandcable9332

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrBallen thanks for making my day better with this video

@timandamberhickman6125

3 жыл бұрын

So true! We love this channel and Mr. Ballen. He’s a GREAT story teller!

I feel like they should have investigated Agnes as well, because the phone calls audio sounded like a woman's voice and Agnes was her close friend

Did Roy have Cindy's phone number, the unlisted number? She changed to a new address, did he know her new address, once she shifted 2nd time? And most importantly, why were Cindy's call records never checked, to see if she was getting any calls on the dates mentioned? If yes, from which number was she getting the calls?

@Barbwire866

Жыл бұрын

That's what I thought. I bet the ex-husband had something to do with it . I mean , this started happening just four months after she divorced him? That's sus.

@xxlovelissyxx

Жыл бұрын

I reckon it was because the police had tunnel vision, so why bother right? (I mean, thats what they would have thought.) Totally sucks.

@ManhattanRobb

Жыл бұрын

Roy being a psych dr was attacking her with psy -ops, made it seem like a stalker, then he couldn't over power her the first time, so he made her seem crazy then used meds which he's familiar with to aid him in the other attacks, spouse and ex spouse are usually Prime suspects. Guess they ruled him out.

@yangduran1663

Жыл бұрын

Also, the stalker only called Roy "once" and he managed to store a record of it in case the police turn to him.

The fact that the coroner found it would be impossible for her 'stage' her own death tells me the cops really f**ked up. I think they have a lot to answer for.

@seroogyw6238

3 жыл бұрын

Can anyone explain to me why Police or Herself didn’t setup Video Surveillance in and outside the home? I know they came to property and watched but having actual Video would help clear up a lot of things.

@murk1352

3 жыл бұрын

You better believe it! If it was one of their family members or kids they would of done a lot better job! They didn't even take prints?

@Tw0Dots

3 жыл бұрын

@Mr. Rich B.O.B most aren’t that bright so not surprising

@ChrisForstner

3 жыл бұрын

@@seroogyw6238 Honestly it's because at the time it would cost you about, in todays dollar value, $2k for a camcorder that would give you the video quality of your average bigfoot video. So it wouldn't really be something they would think about in this situation.

@seroogyw6238

3 жыл бұрын

Chris Forstner It’s not the point of quality if that is your argument! I guarantee the police themselves had the best equipment at the time or had access to it. To just have flood lights or sit outside at certain times obviously wasn’t enough! Someone should have at least tried setup up some type of VIdeo Surveillance just to get any idea what is happening...

*woman has literal note stabbed through her hand* police: this chick just won’t stop until she gets our attention🥴🥱

@jessicadavenport2808

3 жыл бұрын

SERIOUSLY!!!!! WTF!!!! Cops: Nah....she's faking it. Me: HOW!? Did she slip and fall perfectly while throwing her knife in the air? Or did she decide she hated that hand and it needed to be punished? How do you come to that kind of conclusion looking at a scene like that? She just wanted attention......? ....ummmm....no

@manicstatic370

3 жыл бұрын

@J D pretty sure they thought she was crazy rather then faking it for attention. It sounds like she possibly has some kind of psychotic disorder

@irishmario

3 жыл бұрын

@J DMy thoughts exactly.. so much negligence especially back then.. also police didn't have the tools they do now to do a proper surveillance. I don't understand how the P.I. didn't figure it out.. I'm an amateur P.I. and just starting as a new career soon.. I most definitely have to his pinned for a case of like to solve.. Unfortunately I doubt there is much evidence to be tested that was saved. Hopefully I or someone will figure it out!

@oggyboggy8692

3 жыл бұрын

@@irishmario Really wonderful to hear that you seem to want to do well in your field. I'm sure that most law enforcement involved in these cases do want justice and to help the world but at the very least some of them are ridiculously negligent and biased.

@crodo123

3 жыл бұрын

that has all the telltale signs of a call for attention. If you are going to murder someone and leave a note you stab it to their heart or write it in blood on a wall. Specially something that short. the minute I heard of that incident I knew it was all fake.

a lot of it pointed to the stalker being either a member of local law enforcement or in contact with local law enforcement, which would explain the absolutely insane levels of laziness on the cops part, not even professional enough to hold their tongues when talking to the potential victim after just a second of third event and with what we know now about an astoundingly large percent of the police force and their association with organized crime and terrorist groups... there's just too many things that point to them being the culprits, or atleast the ones who ended it, they really fought hard to "prove" her to be a pathological liar, without actually proving it with a psychiatrists diagnosis

Mr Ballen, love watching your content mate. You have a great way of explaining these stories, amazing mate keep up the great work.

I can’t believe basically watching a man tell stories is so riveting. It’s better than a documentary or a tv show. Ballen is definitely a true talent in story telling.

@KM-mv3qr

3 жыл бұрын

Look at you , hoping for a response from Ballen!!

@bmc4175

3 жыл бұрын

@@KM-mv3qr ?

@KM-mv3qr

3 жыл бұрын

@@bmc4175 yeah, you know it.

@bmc4175

3 жыл бұрын

@@KM-mv3qr hope everything is well with you. God bless.

@coredream8552

3 жыл бұрын

@@KM-mv3qr so isnt everyone? Dont act special when you know everyone else isnt

I hope everyone who reads this has THE BEST day ever!

@amyfay5791

3 жыл бұрын

Thankyou ^_^ I hope you have the best day ever!

@beautifulcrazey7713

3 жыл бұрын

You too.

@jobanks276

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Mate , that is a very kind comment for us all. Now you make sure you have the bestest mostbfantabulous day also . Love and blessings to all!

@sourcehauntings8851

3 жыл бұрын

Ahhh! You too!!!

@StriplingJr

3 жыл бұрын

Sincerely, 😊 Thank you all back! 🙏🏿🙌🏿

Right before you were going to play the voicemail a terry crews ad came on and I was so confused.

When cops come to a collective conclusion, that’s it, done, over, no other possibilities are even explored, sad but true, tons of cases prove this, on another note the recording does sound like a girl, not saying it’s her at all the evidence of her feet and the needle are very important, just that alone should of made the cops look harder at other possible suspects …. Tragic but fascinating story

Gotta love how the cops just got tired of Cindy, and stopped responding to her calls? Like, that’s your job guys!

@benjaminfacouchere2395

3 жыл бұрын

No, it's not their job. They responded countless times and investigated and all came to the conclusion that she staged the attacks. Should the police now hire a police officer for every paranoid person that's out there. They have limited resources and have to distribute them to respond to real crime.

@cookiedon101

3 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminfacouchere2395 it’s literally their job to respond to the calls no matter what they feel is happening.

@gusthemouse4120

3 жыл бұрын

@@cookiedon101 actually the Supreme Court ruled that the police don’t have a constitutional duty to protect or serve. And if they don’t want to they don’t HAVE to respond to calls.. so it’s not technically ‘their job’. I’m not sure exactly how it works. Multiple suits have been filed against multiple states and each time the courts have upheld the same verdict ‘police have no constitutional duty to protect any persons not in custody’

@robertanicholson3593

3 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminfacouchere2395 I don’t know what you mean by a real crime but this woman was murdered

@robertanicholson3593

3 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminfacouchere2395 I hope you can be so objective when it affects you

The strange, dark, and mysterious delivered in story format is basically my best friend at this point.

@jem_jaqovich

3 жыл бұрын

*thumbsup_emoji*

@gabydr3848

3 жыл бұрын

same LOL

@brandonroger306

3 жыл бұрын

Yep!

@sai_lg1070

3 жыл бұрын

Same, I get scared easily doe

@primedaddyv3802

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. It’s weird to think that I wait for mrballen to post. It’s literally the best part of the week. Man I need a life..... do I though ... yep.

New here...great story telling voice, mrballen... unbelievable stories. Thanks for making me aware!

I love all your stories .you are the best story telling i have ever heard..

the caller on the other side of the phone, ""DO YOU KNOW HOW TO GET TO BELLS CANYON?!?!!?""

@mandielayne9941

3 жыл бұрын

After watching that video, I googled bell’s cannon and found out it was in Utah... so creepy!!!

@blacksheep25251

3 жыл бұрын

I literally LOL'd at that! Thank you

@duel9436

3 жыл бұрын

I understood that reference

@lovelyisabelle2028

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha no no no!! I am still creeped out by that story and the one where the father and son are in the forest with no sounds 🥺

@Xander-86

3 жыл бұрын

🤣

*Someone who's never played guitar Guitarist of 20 years: "I can easily play these licks, she could've done it" Logic of a knot expert.

@staceymurello9367

3 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@alexvasquez7036

2 жыл бұрын

Very well said indeed the police are just lazy

@cipher5893

2 жыл бұрын

I thought that too lmaoooo

@danielcappuccino8143

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if he injected himself with morphine before tying himself up.

@krafty0518

2 жыл бұрын

LMBO!!! RIGHT!?!?!?

was any investigation done of her friend Agnes? That sounds like a woman on the voicemail and she would know her number plus she often seemed to be there just after. Also if you have this much stuff happening you wouldn't go out and leave the door unlocked but I wouldn't be surprised if her friend had a key

Love how you tell stories brother !

Mr Ballen is like a cool camp counselor that tells a bunch of stories

@neillp3827

3 жыл бұрын

Hes straight and an ex navy seal, not that camp

@richardhanes7370

3 жыл бұрын

And then everyone dies

@smallmannic8595

3 жыл бұрын

@@susanpierce3379 how is his voice irritating it literally just sounds like a normal mans voice

@REALPEDROGAMEPLAYS

3 жыл бұрын

@@smallmannic8595 its worded like shit but they are saying that mr. Ballen doesn't have an irritating voice

@susanpierce3379

3 жыл бұрын

@@smallmannic8595 "and he's not a KZreadr with a irritating voice"

There’s a theory it was Roy, that’s pretty strong. This started just a few months after they split, and continued until her death. He didn’t have as solid of alibis as is mentioned here, he was just “trusted”, being a medical professional. He would have had access to morphine, etc, from his place of work. He also was the person who pegged Cindy as having “mental problems” to the police, implying to them that she was seeking attention. They believed him, as a “professional”.

@ceannaschemm6905

Жыл бұрын

Hes a psychiatrist, he doesn't have access to morphine

@janicediaz7921

Жыл бұрын

Oh my goodness I think your right. When there was a fire inside her house the neighbor went outside and saw a man and asked him to call 911, but instead he ran away. Of course as a doctor the police trusted him. It makes sense.

@loftyjones675

Жыл бұрын

good to know! also it seems too convenient that he had a message on his phone "from the stalker" talking about killing cindy lol.

@TreeFreak

Жыл бұрын

The voicemail was clearly a woman. I'm betting he paid someone with either drugs or cash to call and leave that message at his house.

@StaIIion

Жыл бұрын

Or it could’ve been a hitman he assigned. Since running at however old he is might not be suitable for an older man although it is very likely.

This is another fine example of authorities (be it police or doctors or... ) not believing a woman and labeling her as "crazy" and not helping her when she needs it most. If her psychologist ex and a 10 week psych ward stay didn't reveal DID, I reeeeally doubt it.

Sadly stuff like this happened often in the 70’s & 80’s. Stalking and sexual harassment were not really taken seriously, even in areas that had laws regarding them. Most cops assumed the woman was just looking for attention or was hysterical. Even when they had proof it was happening they often blamed the woman for leading the guy, being a tease, or dressing provocatively. It was not uncommon for the first question to female victims was “what did you do to cause this?”, even in cases of physical abuse and rape. I had a friend who was raped and was asked this question almost word for word. They wrote the whole thing off as she agreed to have sex then changed her mind in the middle. Sexual harassment was often written off as a hysterical woman getting angry because a man complemented her. Keep in mind during this time women were often taught that if a man asked her to dance or out on a date, she was being rude if she said no, especially in some areas and cultures. In this case the cops should have put a trace on her phone. It would have quickly proven if she was really getting harassing phone calls. But if her stalker was connected to the police, they would have most likely protected the stalker. Which could explain this entire thing, especially them ruling it a suicide and blaming her for faking her stalker.

It’s like the girl who cried wolf, but she was never lying.

@Africanhorror

2 жыл бұрын

the wolf was just too good at hiding

@redcrimson1028

2 жыл бұрын

What are u talking about? The boy that cried wolf was lying, its just tge wolf actually showed up in the end.

@QixTheDS

2 жыл бұрын

@@redcrimson1028 Yeah that's what he's saying. The boy cried wolf so much that when an actual wolf appeared, no one believed him. The difference, as Thomas said, was that in this case the girl hadn't been lying.

@DonRoyalX

2 жыл бұрын

@@redcrimson1028 lol what are YOU talking about…

@PickassoEnt

2 жыл бұрын

@@redcrimson1028 yeah but was he tho? Or was there a wolf all along and people were just like yeaah right kid until he got Eaten haha and then they BLAMED HIM lol

I've never been this frustrated with a story.

@cloudylemon2270

3 жыл бұрын

Same I’ve been watching this on Xbox one and I came to my phone just to write a comment saying wtf

@Gabbo-lv3zo

3 жыл бұрын

This and keneeka jenkins have spun me out

@carmensavu5122

3 жыл бұрын

Then try the Circleville Letters. This one is easy peasy compared to that dumpster fire.

@Lntic

3 жыл бұрын

@@carmensavu5122 i heard the story a few months ago but I still found this one to be more infuriating for whichever reason.

This is so sad and heartbreaking 💔 that nobody believed her that is very heartbreaking 💔 😢 😞 😔 😪 🙏

Her family should of sued both Police Departments for wrongful death, failure to provide/render aid and tampering with evidence. Also to include ALL the mental, emotional, psychological and physical stress she suffered. Poor lady, the people and persons who were paid to protect and serve her as a citizen FAILED her horribly!

This poor woman went through this totally alone with so few people believing her, how hopeless she must have felt. Your struggle is now over ... Rest in peace

@michelsealy3782

3 жыл бұрын

if you think about it 2 of the few people that did believe her agnes and her husband where most likely the ones that did it.very sad.

@dakodablack7312

3 жыл бұрын

Is the invisible woman inspiration

@Pwilly1984

3 жыл бұрын

Such a damn shame... To cry for help in a crowded room with no one to hear u :(

No matter who truly is the responsible for this, the police department involved with this case will always be responsible for letting it ever happen

@mystaniceguy

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately if there is no crime committed they won’t do anything. Sucks. Actually a current thing happening to my sister rn. Cops didn’t do shit.

@steverambo7599

3 жыл бұрын

@@mystaniceguy thats extremely unfortunate

@rolinmaiz1694

3 жыл бұрын

Truth sause

@mystaniceguy

3 жыл бұрын

@@steverambo7599 and I’m a supporter of police. Good thing I own firearms. But still it sucks that if there is no crime they won’t do anything

@steverambo7599

3 жыл бұрын

@@mystaniceguy yeah honestly Im fine with the law and all but sometimes I think something should happen whether it specifically falls under a law or not, granted not everything since that would be chaos but it shouldnt be wait until shit gets real then act upon it

Cindy was murdered and they did her filthy during and afterwards. May she rest in peace ❤