I'm glad you guys addressed irreducible complexity in this episode. It seems like the majority of the evolutionary world these days believes irreducible complexity as a concept has been largely "debunked," even though every attempt to refute it has been answered thoroughly and successfully. I think it would be great to hear more about irreducible complexity, and even more about endogenous retroviruses.

@goblincookie5233

2 ай бұрын

Ah, but nobody hears the answers do they now? And few even hear of the problem, given that it is 'debunked'.

@Dhorpatan

2 ай бұрын

There is nothing that is ever debunked if selfish humans don't want it to be debunked. No matter how stupid the idea is. There are people that still hold that "flat earth" has not been debunked.

Really THANK YOU for setting the volume high! My crappy laptop makes a lot of videos hard to hear, but this is GREAT even near the bottom of my speaker settings.

@MyMy-tv7fd

2 ай бұрын

u cd also try using some cheapo wired earplugs

@20july1944

2 ай бұрын

@@MyMy-tv7fdAgreed, but they're less flexible. The channels that set their volume as high as possible aren't harming others but they're helping members of the laptop losers community like me!

@MyMy-tv7fd

2 ай бұрын

or you could just download the vid, strip out the audio into MP3, then batch process all your audio file sound levels with an equaliser of your choice, and listen to them on Dolby Surround Sound (TM) @@20july1944

@Andrew_McDiarmid

2 ай бұрын

You are welcome! Glad it's coming through loud and clear for you!

The thing that I think Dr. K isn't realizing is that Evolutionism has been hawked all this time in order to rid the need for an Almighty designer, so to argue for a compatibility of the two in order to get macro-evolutionism back on the table of discussion is kinda like punching yourself in the face.

@jvt_redbaronspeaks4831

2 ай бұрын

Excellent point.

@Papa-dopoulos

2 ай бұрын

Fair enough, but it’s still possible that a group with nefarious intentions can accidentally work against their own point, and exposing that can be just as effective as blindly opposing it. In fact, I would say it’s poetically satisfying to say “Actually, you’ve been arguing for design the whole time” instead of “No, this is wrong”

While the controversy of dna is hidden behind the scenes without any knowledge million of 3rd grade American in class was asking intuitively where is the code of life to measure? Why are we doing this? A better prediction than evolution ever made. A dark hurtful secret 💔

@dadsonworldwide3238

2 ай бұрын

This motivated me to figure out what was going on in school that I was witnessing as if intentionally going against what I now know was a likeminded majority king James English & classical American orientation and direction. Power that be gets to control, input and perimeters in ways they re orientate entire nations..dictate time ,calender, cosmogony, biology its a lot of power

Amazon does not have this book for sale... They do have: The Intelligent Design Debate and the Temptation of Scientism (Routledge Science and Religion Series) 1st Edition, Kindle Edition by Erkki Vesa Rope Kojonen (Author) Format: Kindle Edition Anyways, I do not think you ID guys are the audience Kojonen is writing for, so I expect he will ignore you. I suspect he could care less if his arguments are flawed. The fact is the whole Godless Evolution paradigm is a JUGGERNAUT. They could care less what ID and Creationists think. They speak a different language then we do... Sad IMHO

@17:00 Fortuitous Serendipity requires a CREATOR IMHO

ditto on the volume issue; my laptop volume is bad

co opting of the gaps, teleology of the gaps... big bang of the gaps... need i go on?

DESIGNER ARGUMENT Logic Science 101, A is B, ILLOGICAL IMPOSSIBLE CONTRADICTION Plug data into formula and critically evaluate result A non designer non life caused the effect of B designer life in universe A is B, Logically as an ABSOLUTE a live designer ABSOLUTELY EXISTS. Logic Science is an ABSOLUTE, no beyond reasonable doubt or uncertainty.😢🎉😂❤😅

@Vernon-Chitlen

2 ай бұрын

So beautiful tapestries and baskets weave themselves?

@robertvann7349

2 ай бұрын

@@Vernon-Chitlen Hey Vern, Hey Vern, I love drinking stupid because I am a caveman committed to a mental institution as a moron and given a lobotomy. Dah....👹👹👹

In astronomy, we do assume and prescribe hierarchy of value on objects in space that by default creates fine tuning cheaklist. They flip Newton to get this done . It allows philosopher blake to already postulate.multi verse long before we actually could use space / time because he allready knows results. Even before Einstein he was a coop it never mattered what his model was they already set the deep time in out and perimeters. This allowed them to argue darwins give enough trys & time one random earth Babylonian evolutionary primordial flood creation soup could form single origin Newton specifically stays way honesty stating subjective values on objects. They are claiming deterministic measures are made when they are approximations

@dadsonworldwide3238

2 ай бұрын

This leads to Noam chomsky and others weakening language to accommodate control by denying evolution Is something language, ideas and human can do and it's no evidence for this. It's only a physical mechanism lol

I have long now regarded the Design (Intelligent Design is a tautology) versus Evolution debate as a philosophical or quasi-religious debate. You make one set of assumptions and you get a view of biology as a grand panorama of created, designed, meaningful life. You fall into the other and you get an incoherent mess of mechanism and pseudo-randomicity, eg the 'junk DNA' error which has held back genetics for decades.

@20july1944

2 ай бұрын

Good point that design implies intellect!

@robertvann7349

2 ай бұрын

Ontological and Epistemology Argument LAW OF CONTRADICTION, A is B, illogical impossible contradiction. Plug data into formula and critically evaluate result. A non conscious non intelligent non being caused the effect of B your conscious intelligent being in the universe Atheists must concede, their hypothesis is A is B impossible bull crap on steroids Logically, A isn't B law of non contradiction. Plug data into formula and critically evaluate result A=A, B=B, A isn't B A God's conscious intelligent being caused the effect of A your conscious intelligent being Eat crow atheist.

@dadsonworldwide3238

2 ай бұрын

It's even worse it has horizon paradox in its position of orientation that leans into human biased ability to manipulate form and shape of local systems it ignores 3 degrees of motion of its original statistical anylitical assumptions. It always wants infinite degrees of freedom philosophy like when we discover conprencous code of life DNA yet still call it ptolemaic evolution. Direction wants to say mutation but also speciation & stasis all at once. It's playing musical chairs of super position to get the answers it wants despite the facts or how contradictory explanatory phenotypical power is used in direct opposition to its origin of life gradualism and tied in with time. If it was just looking outside in we could all buy in and originally it's what happened, the old world just wanted old world Deterministic form and shape to mix chemically without regard for inside complexity

@dadsonworldwide3238

2 ай бұрын

If it was so simple ,clear & correct it wouldn't have such death n despair in its wake across so many different, gens,cultures, nations . The human error neglect no longer works as an excuse

@MyMy-tv7fd

2 ай бұрын

I have long now regarded the Design (Intelligent Design is a tautology) versus Evolution debate as a philosophical or quasi-religious debate. You make one set of assumptions and you get a view of biology as a grand panorama of created, designed, meaningful life. You fall into the other and you get an incoherent mess of mechanism and pseudo-randomicity, eg the 'junk DNA' error which has held back genetics for decades. @@dadsonworldwide3238

Except if genes were designed to evolve.

@GreatBehoover

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 Designed by WHO? You simply PRETEND that evolution works when we SEE a supergenius DESIGNER/CODER IS A NECESSITY... given the OBVIOUS Hypercomplexity and Sophistication and volume of DNA CODE and all of the genetic code. Once we realize the IMPOSSIBILITY of DNA CODE and the FACT that we ONLY see DEVOLVING... not evolving. This is the destruction of the genome and the breaking down...not building up as evolutionists fantasize about. Consider the FACT that you Consider "evolution" true because you don't have any skepticism about the lies being fed to you. The lies of "evolution" are proven by: 1. The COMPLETE LACK of transitional fossils. 2. The complete LACK of UNASSUMED OBSERVATIONAL SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE of any novel proteins "emerging" in TRILLIONS of studied offspring. Remember we only have billions of "possible" chimp and human fossils to have THOUSANDS OF NOVEL PROTEINS "emerge"! 3. The complete IMPOSSIBILITY and LACK of any chromosomal translocation event combining 2 chromosomes into 1 chromosome to form new species... which is PURE MYTHOLOGY. 4. The available DNA CODE record sets that PROVES chimp like creatures DIDN'T evolve into humans. Including the vast differences such as the ACTUAL FACT that our genomes don't even match 80%...let alone 98% as LIARS have continued to lie about! 5. The discovery of PREPROGRAMMED EPIGENETIC CODE destroyed the mythology of "junk DNA". It turned out that the "changes" in Darwin's finches were PREPROGRAMMED...didn't evolve... and were actually GENETIC SWITCHES that already preceeded the "changes". In other words... the birds were already programmed by some supergenius to adapt to various environments. The silly scientists whom Luskin is talking about is merely substituting GOD for the IMPOSSIBLE parts of evolution. 😂😂😂 He does this excuse NOVEL PROTEINS CAN'T AUTOMAGICALLY "emerge" as evolutionists imagined!😉 It is hilarious that we have a true creation account in the Bible that people desperately want to believe because of the ridiculous FAITH-FILLED ASSUMPTIONS of radiometric dating! We have disproven radiometric dating so much so that they now started using "averages". All radiometric dating ASSUMES what cannot be confirmed via clean scientific methodology... Because you CAN'T TEST back in time. The silliness of ASSUMPTIONS being "fact" is completely out of hand in scientific circles. Peer review has become an "atta boy" network of naturalists simply patting each other on their backs when they publish any naturalist garbage that makes them FEEEL good. It's epidemic.

The snow globe universe. God creates the universe, gives it a shake, and sits back and just watches. What a pathetic god. _"For in six days the Lᴏʀᴅ made the heavens and the earth, the sea and everything that is in them ..."_ - The Bible, Exodus 20.11a Why would God waste His time with evolution? God doesn't need to conduct a science experiment. God has written an elaborate drama that is playing out. The Earth and creatures are props in the play. The play is about redemption and putting God's loving-kindness on display. Biology is just small potatoes in the grand design. The folks at Discovery Institute are extremely myopic. God created the flagellum as a complete, functioning system - no evolution necessary - no coopting necessary. Attempts to merge the standard evolutionary model with special creation are ridiculous and utter foolishness.

@robertvann7349

2 ай бұрын

Really, you have free will, God must is a pacifist judge who said thou shalt not kill. I am a PACIFIST. You caused all the deaths and diseases because your a non pacifist that thinks killing is both good and evil. Your a perfect hypocrite grasshopper.😢😢😢😂😂😂😂😅

@goblincookie5233

2 ай бұрын

What pathetic creatures you have made so that that your god is not pathetic.

@Papa-dopoulos

2 ай бұрын

The very act of creating the flagellum could have taken a long time in humans’ perspective. It sounds like you are assuming that something taking a long time to us also takes a long time on a celestial/divine scale. God taking as long as he wants to do something in no way diminishes his glory and power. He does whatever he wants

@phatkat5077

2 ай бұрын

It sounds like you're talking about Deism, rather than the ID theory, but maybe I am wrong. Quoting: *_Deism:_* _The recognition of a universal creative force greater than that demonstrated by mankind, supported by personal observation of laws and designs in nature and the universe, perpetuated and validated by the innate ability of human reason coupled with the rejection of claims made by individuals and organised religions of having received special divine revelation._ *_Cult:_* _In Deism, a cult is an embracing of unreasonable beliefs by a group of people. Based on this definition, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all cults because their members suspend their God-given reason in order to believe or accept the unreasonable dogmatic teachings and superstitions such as God giving real estate as a gift to the Jews, the resurrection and ascension of Jesus, faith-healing (as just one example of faith-healing being a superstition, if faith-healing was REAL innocent helpless children would not be dying from the attempts of their parents at Biblical faith-healing) and Mohammed's ascension to heaven, among many more false and unreasonable claims. Because Deism always promotes free and independent thought and reason, it is impossible for Deism to become a cult._ *_God:_* _The eternal universal creative force which is the source of the laws and designs found throughout Nature._ *_Intelligent Design:_* _Intelligent Design refers to the structures in Nature, such as that of DNA, which can be observed and the complexity of which required an intelligent designer. In this context "structure" means something arranged in a definite pattern of organisation. In Deism, Intelligent Design has absolutely nothing to do with the unreasonable Biblical myth of creation._ *_Natural Religion:_* _Belief in God based on the application of reason on the laws/designs of Nature as opposed to revealed religion which is based on alleged revelations._ *_Philosophy:_* _The study of the truths and principles of being, knowledge, or conduct._ *_Reason:_* _The mental powers used with forming conclusions or inferences based on facts. Deists look at reason as the second greatest gift from Nature's God to humanity, second only to life itself._ *_Religion:_* _A set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature and purpose of the universe._ *_Revelation:_* _The act of revealing or of making known. In the religious sense, revelation usually means divine revelation. This is meaningless, since revelation can only be revelation in the first instance. For example, if God revealed something to me, that would be a divine revelation to me. If I then told someone else what God told me it would be mere hearsay to the person I tell. If that person believed what I said, they would not be putting their trust in God, but in me, believing what I told them was actually true._ *_Revealed Religion:_* _An organised system of belief in and worship of God based on the belief that God communicated/communicates with certain individual founders/members of the particular revealed religion. As mentioned above, by believing in any of the revealed religions a believer is not putting their trust in God, but in the person/people making the claim of receiving the divine revelation._