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@Andrea-br4gv

5 жыл бұрын

Why did Plato distanced himself from Socrates ?

@rankemperor

4 жыл бұрын

@@Andrea-br4gv The written word.

@khushalff4637

3 жыл бұрын

Q

"By all means marry: if you get a good wife, you’ll become happy; if you get a bad one, you’ll become a philosopher" - great philosopher socrates

@ThetennisDr

4 жыл бұрын

Lots of philosophers today

@SB-fo7em

4 жыл бұрын

jose jacob lmao

@dougoverhoff7568

4 жыл бұрын

Xanthippe, his wife's name, is still a term used to describe a shrew.

@ameliafrancks2198

4 жыл бұрын

Why yhe fuck wojld i wanna b a philospher stone

@migueladrianvalevelazquez8703

4 жыл бұрын

Did he really say that

When something is stolen from you your property is depleted. When you steal from another your virtue is depleted.

@TaunellE

5 жыл бұрын

@The Allchive lmao.. True. Go Hungry, Starve.. Virtue pllth No. Maddness.

@Felix-bb2rx

5 жыл бұрын

"Agree with me, I'm right!!!" - The MacSo

@histguy101

4 жыл бұрын

@The MacSo Self-Righteousness is _not_ a virtue.

@georgemissailidis3160

3 жыл бұрын

@The Allchive Tautologies are objectively true.

@georgemissailidis3160

3 жыл бұрын

@The MacSo Moral values aren't totally subjective. What makes a moral value moral is if it brings forth and restores the fairest happiness for everyone involved. E.g. laws and social customs are different everywhere in the world, but the assertions like "treat others with respect" and "have courage and self-pride" is still there (sometimes those statements are abused due to evil contexts surrounding them, like treating an evil authority with respect or having too much self-pride and arrogance) but those are still values common to all laws. Because they are moral - they are fair, and ideally, in a world where people respect and maintain the integrity of justice, those values would bring happiness. Take a look at Aristotle's 12 golden virtues - are those virtues entirely subjective or not? Take a look at formal logic - why is it objective? It would be morally and logically invalid to dismiss you now because you could be black - is that statement subjective or objective?

"Many people never consciously contemplate the question of how one ought to live, instead the course of their lives is largely determined by the cultural values and norms, which they unquestionable adhere to." Yes, sadly.

@iridescentisaac3698

2 жыл бұрын

Look into Antonio Gramsci and his idea of Cultural Hegemony.

Wow, most people never question how they ought to live. Great lecture.

@Ramidemi710

7 жыл бұрын

i do it way to much and thus don't get anywhere.

@nicholascosta7786

4 жыл бұрын

Not fun for a 15 year old who hates highschool to ask

@yunglady1312

2 жыл бұрын

ironic how you have a nietzsche pfp and agree with socrates lol

@danielgriff2659

2 жыл бұрын

really? most Christians do.. kinda central to the religion..

"everything we do, we do because we think it will make us happy"

@sionmarak1916

4 жыл бұрын

And thus there is no good or bad but what we think is good or bad.

@quinnadam3024

3 жыл бұрын

@@sionmarak1916 So if I steal all of Sion Marak's money because I think it will make me happy then it is good

@sionmarak1916

3 жыл бұрын

@@quinnadam3024 for you if you think it is good but not for me

@quinnadam3024

3 жыл бұрын

@@sionmarak1916 No. If it's wrong to do it to one person it's wrong to do it to anyone.

@lowercasehorse2363

3 жыл бұрын

Not everything but a lot of things, yeah

My favorite quote of his "No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training…what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.”

Socrates one of the greatest beings in the whole of human history. Brilliance and clarity at its highest expression.

@That_kingW0

8 ай бұрын

in dumb as fck, i have a school Project tomorrow about socrates, i havent studied at all, pluss we have had 3 moths tto write and talk about him, started today....

‘’The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.’’ ~Socrates

@geneva4034

Жыл бұрын

My favorite

"I cannot teach someone anything, I can only make them think", Socrates once said.

Socrates was a man ahead of his times.

@duskyracer8800

7 жыл бұрын

not much as changed. I saw a quote from a Greek man talking just as a modern day elderly man would of the youth and how things were different when he was youthful. It was eerily similar.

@AscensionOfAuriel

7 жыл бұрын

True story.

@gclbroadview1503

7 жыл бұрын

Men who ascend to his level of thinking are above time

@jessewhitacre2426

7 жыл бұрын

Tupac Shakur no one is innocent in the Bronze age

@johna8541

6 жыл бұрын

Seraphim truths aren't subject to one group or time so he may very well have come up with these ideas on his own ...how do you know that the "Egyptians" didn't get it from some other group?

Thank you for all of your videos. There are a few that I listened to daily for a few months. The teachings you shine light have been life changing and have helped me move in a brighter direction in my life. Thank you for taking the time to make this content and the years of material you have completed here.

Stay true to thyself and no one will be richer than you. But with that virtue you must do good to others. Believe that they are just as worthy as you. Live the way you want to live realizing that you have total and complete control!

@BigHenFor

8 жыл бұрын

+Gustavo Cuero One only has total control over what one can control, and in truth that is just limited to one's responses to what happens between being born and dying. Choose well by being true to yourself

Assuming that the understandings of Socrates presented in this video are correct, I would say this is one of the best educational videos I have seen on KZread. It is perfectly sequenced. Well done.

Socrates is right. "It is better to suffer an injustice than to commit an injustice"

@Ramidemi710

7 жыл бұрын

depends on the injustice i suppose.

@Ramidemi710

7 жыл бұрын

forever saudade i disagree. If i steal my friends candy, or rape his mother kill her and eat his corpse in front of him and he gets thrown in jail for it. Are those things equally unjust? They ARE both unjust, but there clearly is a gradient.

@Ramidemi710

7 жыл бұрын

forever saudade That's my problem with this quote. It's so vague and general. I would rather steal a candy than get mugged and shot. What exactly does "better" mean? Obviously on a moral standpoint committing a crime is more immoral than it being committed against you, but that's no great revelation. Basically it's a vague generalisation that tells me nothing and expands my understanding by nothing, so where is the wisdom? Maybe he meant that as a rule for all people. If everyone took it to hearth, life would be better for all people. Sure, but that's naive and idealistic. I would expect from a man like socrates/plato that he knows there are assholes out there that are making it harder for the rest of us.

@MyDefendor

7 жыл бұрын

"Obviously on a moral standpoint committing a crime is more immoral than it being committed against you" How is crime being committed against is immoral on your part? Your thinking contains inconsistencies. You obviously don't understand Socrates and nor do you have an altruistic state of mind to comprehend the essence of it.

@rickyg8462

7 жыл бұрын

MyDefendor Q The quote is a mantra to live by. That's the significance. It's a code to live by. We can definitely dissect it into a dichotomy but that's just a perversion of it.

" the unexamined life is not worth living " Gore Vidal use to say the untelevised life is not worth living

@AmericanTestConstitution

5 жыл бұрын

That's awesome and hilarious

Socrates: wisest man that ever lived, didn't claim any divine intervention, discouraged any form of wrong-doing and was never content with what society considered important.

@MadeOfMocha

7 жыл бұрын

Regular Sherlock He was however told he was wisest by the Oracle of Delphi and henceforth divine intervention by Apollo.

@hornypervert3781

6 жыл бұрын

Regular Sherlock some evil acts are commited for the greater good.

@hornypervert3781

6 жыл бұрын

Regular Sherlock palpatine was wiser

@hjfdjful

6 жыл бұрын

Regular Sherlock claiming divine intervention doesn’t make someone’s argument less valid. You will only find out (or not) when you die, if god is real and has sent a select few with wisdom from God to be passed down to humans. The universe is connected and things seem very in almost a divine synchronization. No matter what we think with our brains, no human could fully understand or begin to grasp god. So the concept of God is very logical, because God would be beyond our comprehension. Don’t be so quick to assume, everything isn’t just as it seems.

@mackdmara

6 жыл бұрын

Which is greater, Extolling virtue or being virtuous?

truly one of the greatest human beings to have ever walked this earth. the great Socrates.

@sonnyspawn4435

3 жыл бұрын

I myself have this hunch that Socrates was not a real man but a made up one..just like Mark Twain has a PEN NAME of THOMAS JEFFERSON!!!I believe he is a SHADOW..Could also be a (FORM) THEORY OF FORMS..just like our FOUNDING FATHERS LOL..They really thought we wouldn’t find out there TRICKS!!!But GOD is GOOD a shows his CHILDREN TRUTHS

@Jason-rd1ev

3 жыл бұрын

@@sonnyspawn4435 ok

@Jason-rd1ev

3 жыл бұрын

@@sonnyspawn4435 there were many people that talked about Socrates it’s most likely that he’s real

@sonnyspawn4435

3 жыл бұрын

Jason I would very much love for him to of been a real person!!I have come to find out that a lot of what we are told is false..I like to think outside of the proverbial boxes they have locked us in..

@oriraykai3610

2 жыл бұрын

@@sonnyspawn4435 Mark Twain was real and knew Nicola Tesla. There are pics of them together, and Thomas Jefferson was 100 years before, so WTF?

This was an amazing mini series. Thank you for the time it took making this.

Thank you so much for this sharp video. Great work.

Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle are great philosophers of the world.People could not forget them..'Universal Arrow',Kerala,India.

@Aurora_Tom_Renton

Жыл бұрын

plato was his student

@joecurran2811

9 ай бұрын

Plato was appalling but became the most influential sadly.

I just went through a Philosophy class a few weeks ago talking about this same concept, it was a 4 hour class, but this has been a great refresher, great video In regards to Virtue, I think he got it right... still a hard pill to swallow that acts of evil are accidental, don’t know if I believe that, but it falls in nicely for society to give benefit of the doubt for the sake of peace and future, and the prospect of redemption, which in my mind has always been better than the prospect of civil war

Brilliantly put together in such an easily digestible format! Thank you for sharing. Socrates is my favourite philosopher :D

Your videos are armour for the soul!, Academy Of Ideas, love your channel.

I believe that some people understand clearly the nature of evil and embrace it.

@Miguel-ng5wm

10 жыл бұрын

I believe that today's society's psyche is much different from the psyche of the old world. I think is the complexity of society and the new strange and bizarre behaviors we are developing. And I think this is what leads people to commit evil acts knowingly.

@xytoplazm

10 жыл бұрын

Martin Delira We also live in a globalized world where the ethical systems of various civilizations compete. What is deemed as perfectly good for one, may be abhorrent for another. An example is drawing the Prophet Muhammad as a funny cartoon, which may exemplify free speech for Westerners, and be a deep insult for Middle Easterners.

@andrewdockrill

10 жыл бұрын

Evil is a point of view

@austins.219

7 жыл бұрын

only in the mind is evil a viewpoint or subjective. Within yourself in your conciseness itself we are all aware of the same truth and that truth within the light will set you free.

@SamStam12

7 жыл бұрын

These people carry and execute the collateral actions of evil. They become addicted to it almost like a drug, losing their soul along the way. The population has a barometer to gauge when they're being oppressed and manipulated. Mass suicide around the world, not seen in recent history only visually exemplifies the evil taking place.

This video is amazing. We must take care of our souls. This video and ideas really enlightenment at its finest that's what Socrates would want

One of the best lecture I have ever heard. Thanks.

Thank you so much for this video! It was excellent, I learned a lot.

Thanks for this great work. I've literally learned so much by watching this. im always in a constant search for truth so much so its became an obsession.

Humans are self aware that "time heals all wounds". meaning that when we commit evil (or wrong doing), that our minds will recover and we will still have a change at happiness. I get am getting the impression that philosophers like Socrates and others during their time, were affluent enough to have the luxury to choose virtue as a path to happiness. I believe that people who are living in sub economic conditions will commit evil so they can have food in their stomach and not starve. In closing, the flaw in virtue=happiness is that many people have to put survival over happiness.

@1987-8

4 жыл бұрын

You miss the point, if one commits a sin, he corrupts his own soul so the false happiness gained from the evil is pointless. A starving person stealing to survive is not an evil act, so his soul cannot be corrupted, as he never gained any false happiness from the act of stealing, it was to survive. the feeling of stealing to gain false happiness and the feeling to steal in order to feed yourselve is completely different and cannot be part of obtaining virtue. hope you get my point

@matthewmea3566

Жыл бұрын

I believe Socrates once said, "People only do wrong when they know it would outweigh the benefits of doing right."

thank you for the video. im trying to inform myself more on philosophy and you made this really easy to follow and understand. i greatly appreciate it

Certainly the best video about Socrates ideas I've seen, thanks!!!! 👍

great video, thank you!

It seems Socrates "So-Crates" really did want us to be excellent to each other.

@Tom.Livanos

5 жыл бұрын

First, and most important point: yes, he did. I could not agree more. For whatever it may be worth, I do not know whether you intended it but I am aware of the quote from the movie 'Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure' (1989). Secondly, a question: when you hyphenate "So-Crates", why are you doing so? Note: even though I have spent little of my life in Greece, I do understand Greek.

@yahya2925

4 жыл бұрын

Most excellent!🎸

Great video man, keep it up. You make great videos

such an amazing page that helped me in my studies😊😊

"To put it bluntly most people are ignorant" 😂 I love all your videos and wisdom. If only I was taught this in school. I had a similar question like why are many people ignorant? We do we do actually as we are told? Why aren't their more people who stand up and be great? but then I realize it's because "they" secretly are instilling us with fear, not love nor energy to empower us. Which leads to control over the masses to be ignorant

@robbiebowers9475

4 жыл бұрын

@Taylor D true education has failed us if we were all taught for example history properly and true fully not just the view point of your place of eduction we more than likely realise we a have at in common and we wouldn’t have s many wars by now. We have mostly al bee indoctrinated in one way or other..

thnx excellent work

SOCRATES shaped my life that's all me can say and am contended and satisfied till now and ever under all circumstances. Thanks.

Great video, thank you!!! This really helped me with my Philosophy class :)

I used to pray to Socrates when I was seven years old. He was my mascot and I had an obsession with him. My father had books on philosophy in his library...For some reason Socrates was someone that I loved to speak to, even though he is not alive.

@oriraykai3610

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I liked being your mascot and hope to get promoted to pet cat someday. 😃

I freaking love you Socrates!

This was really helpful for me to get his idea.

Wow thank you for this video, highly appreciated!!!

good video

I think it's wisdom that leads to virtue, instead of knowledge. I think knowledge can greatly enhance virtue, but it won't necessarily lead to it. I'm sure many of us know of people who have extensive knowledge in a particular field, but still live in a manner that brings about the destruction of what is good and virtuous within themselves. Also, many individuals who are guilty of intellectual pride are obsessed with amassing knowledge, but they have no true virtue. This is why I think that it is wisdom that leads to virtue, not knowledge.

@AleadaA

5 жыл бұрын

Virtue is gained by those who seek it and desire it, let those with ears hear and those with eyes see!

@ottomanpapyrus9365

5 жыл бұрын

and that Wisdom will be attained through Religion!

Awesome videos man. Great Job.

Excellent video. Thank you.

"Love that which is most alive" - Socrates (or maybe not).

As a Greek love him and all of them, read him and its like listening to jesus but very hard to live on there words, people change everything on how it suits them

Learnt a lot. It was way better than watching a whole series of Alain de Botton documentary.

That last argument blew my mind

Wow all of this knowledge of socrates I've been knowing since the age of 15 and I'm 17 now but sometimes I feel like i am truly gifted with knowledge. Watching this video refreshes my mind.

@darrenr49

6 жыл бұрын

your gay mate

@stephenbmassey

5 жыл бұрын

Good, but do remember to keep returning to the question every few years as you may be able to glean greater understanding

I'm so fucking baked right now

@Ramidemi710

7 жыл бұрын

good.

@Ramidemi710

7 жыл бұрын

are you still?

@Ramidemi710

7 жыл бұрын

if yes, the very good.

@AkshayPatil-qf5eh

6 жыл бұрын

haha, me too. i like reading when i am high.

@floga10

3 жыл бұрын

LOL

Cool. Thanks for sharing.

What a goldmine this channel.

It’s strange how even in the early centuries, it seems like only 0.000.1 of the population had the right frame of mind to follow the path of so-called righteousness and be in touch with a virtuous mindset ? It’s almost as though humans are meant to be evil and ignorant mostly, in my opinion if there’s is a god of love he’s made a big mistake bringing us here to earth.

@randomonlineactivity

2 жыл бұрын

Your comment has piqued my interest. It reminds me of a Jean-Paul Sartre quote I used to have on a shirt of mine where Sartre was like, so if we were 100% sure that God existed, would that change anything?

@Silkroads733

2 жыл бұрын

@@randomonlineactivity yes I’m sure that has comment has, by the way check out Matt Dillahunty on the atheist experience on Sundays if you don’t already ...

@randomonlineactivity

2 жыл бұрын

@@Silkroads733 I'm a pantheist in the loosest, most liberal or generous interpretation of the term. Ultimately, I think people believe in whatever comforts them and do what is convenient for them. When people ask me if I'm religious and try to preach to me I tell them I am very religious and that I, of course, follow the religion that I've made up. All religions are made up so I don't see why mine is to be considered better or worse than any other. I've never preached to hurt others in my religion or to spread my so called religion. If I had to sum up my religion in one command, it is "act responsibly". I don't bother to expand on what to believe since thoughts, as far as I am concerned, don't do much harm to other entities.

@randomonlineactivity

2 жыл бұрын

@@Silkroads733 Atheist Exp. is pretty damn funny. Great recommendation.

@Silkroads733

2 жыл бұрын

@@randomonlineactivity no thanks for your feedback you sound pretty sound to me with your own religion...

4:44 this is only good and evil on a master morality sense.

Good concise information --- Thanks!!!!

Well done!

“One who knows himself, knows his Lord”. - Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.

@1987-8

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly, Socrates definitely believed in One God, he died a monotheist.

@Joespore

4 жыл бұрын

Muhammad????

@A_Box_of_Rocks99

3 жыл бұрын

If Muhammad was so great, why is it nessacery to wish peace upon him? It is no different than saying "rest in peace" when a common man dies. “For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; and the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace” Isaiah 9:6 It would be wiser instead to seek peace itself who is no common man and gives rest.

Socrates meets Jesus... great way to learn the Socratic method

@texcellency

5 жыл бұрын

Well said!

Good stuff mate!

Most people never question how they ought to live really got me thinking

Despite my great respect for Socrates, I think it's a little simplistic to say that evil stems from ignorance. If it is immoral for me to use a sword to slice off a person's arm, what if I am dying of thirst and he is preventing me from getting to a well? Human rights are in conflict, a sad comment about human nature, but a true one, I think.

@oriraykai3610

2 жыл бұрын

The point is: your soul is more important than your body. We are here to improve our souls and these bodies are just the temptations to care more about something else. Life is a TEST of your will power with the physical bodies meant to distract you from that goal.

@matthewmea3566

Жыл бұрын

It's not as immoral to hurt someone if you really have to. I do agree with some part of what you said because some people do evil because they think it will benefit them and sometimes it really does. Others might do evil for plain fun and get Socrates' "false happiness". I think the idea is that truth and knowledge is the best good and ignorance is the opposite of truth and knowledge. So heading towards the opposite "only good" means you are heading TO the "only evil" which is ignorance. The thing is that there are different ways that ignorance being evil has been phrased so in some respects it can be true and in some it can be a bit iffy.

This guy sounds exactly like "Blue" the parrot from Rio... Lolz

Fantastic video

thanks for sharing

When i commit an injustice, according to my perspective of virtues, it becames a mirror and reflects its negativity into myself. I am an empath and i am always being conscious of my actions and their products to others. Also some times u happen to learn from your mistakes(evil) in life. My point is that the way of thought of one self is to find virtues that are necessary of who you want to became. Then you should constantly structure yourself based on your virtues You need to reconcile your virtues with the ability to be formless and shapeless, like water in order to find peace for your soul to be at rest. Any thoughts would be welcomed !

@thealterist9762

5 жыл бұрын

Here's a thought..change that creepy thumbnail of yours so you're credibility would rise a bit higher.

@mementocatharsis9372

4 жыл бұрын

Please don't use the "word" empath. It's really bad for credibility.

But Socrates philosophies and hypothesis can't define how INSPECTAH DECK be dropping these mockeries.

@perrynunes8732

9 жыл бұрын

"lyrically perform armed robbery. Flee with the lottery. Battle scars from shoguns, explosion when my hits, tremendous..."

@AllBoss9

8 жыл бұрын

+Joel Holmqvist ultraviolet shine blind forensic.

@marcdellorusso180

8 жыл бұрын

+alex lasso That's because he bombs atomically.

@stephenhope4744

8 жыл бұрын

+alex jasso hes ideas were quackers for the time

@hecticon31

7 жыл бұрын

Wu-Tang Forever

Helped me a ton thanks alot :)

Interesting indeed, food for thought.

God is not an object , yet every object appear in god's infinite mind , your true nature is that mind , not the body , not your thoughts not your feeling , not your limited mind.

I like Socrates but disagree about the ignorance and victim-hood of the criminal. Many people are lazy and will take a short cut in life by committing a crime. They have little soul or remorse about what they do. The soul grows by sacrifice either through hard work or time taken to nurture others.

@derrickschroepfer9173

4 жыл бұрын

In your example, I suspect the lazy criminal thought that by being lazy, and committing the crime as a shortcut would be the shortest and easiest path to their happiness. Socrates suggests that this isn't true, and that this would not lead to their happiness. Instead, gaining knowledge of, and living by virtue will lead to the happiness they sought. So by the criminal's lack of knowledge of what would make them happy, instead search out the incorrect path to it. They committed the crime due to ignorance, and instead rob themselves of their ability to acquire true happiness - hence their labeling of being a victim of ignorance.

@manufacturedreality8706

4 жыл бұрын

@@derrickschroepfer9173 Also, if we look at the other end of the spectrum, the exact opposite....when someone is a hard worker and trough hard work he or she acquires huge amounts of wealth (Billions of $) yet the person is not satisfied and wants more and more money.....and is willing to hurt or cause suffering to others (directly or indirectly) in order to get it. That is also a kind of ignorant behavior, because if 5 billion $ didn't make you happy and satisfied, 50 billion won't make you happy either. It is also called GREED.

📑💎🏆 Great insightful & fruitful video 🏆💎📑

Very interesting stuff.

Thank you for all the work you have put into this video. For just the first two minutes of the video, I have many concerns with what Socrates said and the information presented by this video. This my immediate response to what you said in this video without much careful thought into the writing. You first said, " Instead the course of their lives is largely determined by the cultural values and norms which they unquestionably adhere to.” Now here, when I read this, I translate it into the idea that you are implicitly suggesting that one should ignore the cultural values and norms. But these norms and values serve important purposes. Like fitting in the groups and be loved and accepted in the groups and thrive in the social context. So, you need to behave to some degree according to the cultural values and norms. But that is not to say that you have to give up your own views and way of life and your values for the society. You need to consider both. Second you said, “ because it requires that one attain self-knowledge, or in other words, turn their gaze inward and analyze both their true nature and the values which guide their life. And such knowledge is perhaps the most difficult knowledge to obtain.” I don't believe that it is hard to know about one's self. The very vague part here is "True nature" This is incredibly vague. What is the true nature? How can you be sure this the true nature? I have done sessions of self-examinations dozens of times where I just think inwardly and try to analyze my feelings and judgments. But I never came close to what is my true nature. Many times I come out of these sessions thinking that, for example, A &B& C are the values that make my true nature. And then when I go out and I witness something or hear/read about something, it makes me wonder if A &B&C are really my values. And so every time this happens, I say “Oh, this is maybe my true nature” That’s incredibly flawed. I really get frustrated and irritated with the extreme vagueness of the language and that you are left with no clear illustrations or examples to interpret this and try to apply it to your life. When I read about these philosophers and their ideas, I always find my myself asking "How do these great ideas from these great philosophers translate into practical terms?" "What examples can these ideas be applied to?" I don’t really know how to take what they say and apply it practically. They just use abstract words and extremely vague and ambiguous statements and it is just subliminal and rhetoric. They don’t provide examples and illustrations, which are the most important thing. And I underscore this greatly.

@academyofideas

9 жыл бұрын

Master mind You wrote: "When I read about these philosophers and their ideas, I always find my myself asking "How do these great ideas from these great philosophers translate into practical terms?" "What examples can these ideas be applied to?" I don’t really know how to take what they say and apply it practically. They just use abstract words and extremely vague and ambiguous statements and it is just subliminal and rhetoric." If you're asking those questions in my opinion you have not learned how to appreciate philosophy, or you are reading the wrong philosophers (or not reading them at all). Figure out what their ideas mean to you as an individual, and how you can apply them to your specific life. You asked, "what is the true nature", "how can you be sure this is the true nature". What do you think it is? And if you say you don't know and you can never be sure what it is, you're still taking a philosophical stance on the issue (look into skepticism/epistemological nihilism). You can't avoid these philosophical questions in life. Either, through the help of great philosophers, you think them through consciously for yourself, or you live your life like most do - taking what is commonly accepted as true, and leaving it at that. You also wrote: "I really get frustrated and irritated with the extreme vagueness of the language and that you are left with no clear illustrations or examples to interpret this and try to apply it to your life." When you really appreciate and understand a philosopher's ideas it will change your actions and your way of life. A KZread video will not give you this appreciation. Reading is necessary.

@jacealr1139

9 жыл бұрын

academyofideas Thank you very much for the response and the clarification in it. First, I love philosophy and everything about it. I think that the root of all our problems is not being able to answer the big questions conclusively. You said " I haven't learned how to appreciate philosophy" How does appreciating philosophy allow oneself to apply philosopher's ideas to their lives? "Figure out what their ideas mean to you as an individual, and how you can apply them to your specific life. " Can you please give me a specific example where you were influenced by their ideas and applied them to your life? "What do you think it is? And if you say you don't know and you can never be sure what it is, you're still taking a philosophical stance on the issue (look into skepticism/epistemological nihilism)." I have read these issues, but the thing is I don't see myself taking a stance here. Because if someone is claiming that there is something called "true nature/self" then any logical and practical person who hears him will say "so what is the definition of it?" Tell me how is it different from the "false nature" so to speak. "Either, through the help of great philosophers, you think them through consciously for yourself, or you live your life like most do - taking what is commonly accepted as true, and leaving it at that." That's the problem. These philosophers presented us with great ideas and a lot of wisdom. But when you want to apply it to your life and specific situations, I feel that you will find that there are many ways to interpret their big ideas to your situation and it is very easy to misuse them or to misapply them. "When you really appreciate and understand philosopher's ideas it will change your actions and your way of life. A KZread video will not give you this appreciation. Reading is necessary." I read a lot, but again, I always find myself asking questions like " do they mean this or this?" If you know of any books or articles that could help me with that, I would appreciate it.

@flowmetis1814

8 жыл бұрын

Socrates died voluntarily drinking the hemlock poison. goes to show how extreme he was with his philosophical ideas.

@concernedcitizen780

8 жыл бұрын

+Flow Metis It was not truly voluntary. If he did not drink the hemlock they were going to kill him some other way. He had a choice of how he was going to die.. but he was going to die. And his crime? Making or forcing people to think or question their lives. For that crime he was given death.

@flowmetis1814

8 жыл бұрын

it was voluntary. and he had a chance to escape his fate. crito gave him 3 arguments to escape to another city but his arguments were stronger considering his soul.

Socrates should read Dostoevsky.

Thank You ❤️

Wow my ignorance has blinded me for many years but it's never too late to change...

In athens he was a great philosopher ❤

@hairglowingkyle4572

4 жыл бұрын

Everyone in Athens disliked him lol

@nicostheocharous1990

4 жыл бұрын

@@hairglowingkyle4572 Democracy killed Socrates

@kalks4334

4 жыл бұрын

@@nicostheocharous1990 You mix up causation and correlation

@nicostheocharous1990

4 жыл бұрын

@@kalks4334 Dude, i' m from Athens.

@innosanto

Жыл бұрын

@@nicostheocharous1990 i wouldnt say democracy. It is taken out of context. More the suspicion that democracy would be anolished again for dictatorship.

Your channel is great! It's like The School of Life, but you're not trying to shove communism down our throats.

@academyofideas

7 жыл бұрын

+Zack Kammler Thanks! And yes no communism-shoving is going on here.

@slycoffy

7 жыл бұрын

Potting Soil

@pottingsoil

7 жыл бұрын

:-)

@jackwheeler27

7 жыл бұрын

The school of life seems pretty cozy with capitalism to me!

@joepeeler34

7 жыл бұрын

We haven't been watching the same channel, if that is your interpretation of what School of Life is serving up. Don't get me wrong, it has value, but it's a little on the commie side.

This video is amazing!! I totally understand why I'm studying Philosophy... Thank you!

@rickyg8462

7 жыл бұрын

Wezizwe Ginindza it's amazing that no written works of Socrates exist...his influence must have been immense during his day

@wezizweginindza7129

7 жыл бұрын

Ricky G This is indeed true!

@mementocatharsis9372

4 жыл бұрын

So immense that he became public enemy #1.

thank you

If stealing is an evil act but committed with a purpose to do good. Is it still committed involuntarily and caused by ignorance? Think of it this way, a desperate mother steals money so she can provide her kid something to eat. Is it defined by Socrates as an evil act? Though it is a deed of injustice to someone, it is simultaneously a deed of good to someone else.

@joshuablack125

4 жыл бұрын

Socrates actually talked about this in the protagoras, it’s all about wisdom and being able to identify what is actually going to cause the greater good outcome as opposed to a negative outcome.

@ishmaelforester9825

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuablack125 he talks about the problem in principle repeatedly in multiple dialogues from multiple angles. It's a very obvious problem immediately obvious to anybody who thinks. Plato is one of the most fundamentally serious moral inquirers. You have to read him though. His socrates is constantly aware of ambiguity, nuance and degree and will regularly go out of his way to remind people of it. It just doesn't subtract from or distract from his object and ideal, which is uncanny.

@ishmaelforester9825

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of intellects as sharp and perceptive would inevitably become cynics and absolute moral skeptics, but he never does. It's a remarkable nobility of character. This makes him one of the great sages and literary figures of antiquity.

I zoned out for the first 5 minuets thinking of how id teach socrates english so that I could communicate with him had I been "placed" in his time period and have had no knowledge of Greek language. Thats an INTP for you.

@KreisTyler

7 жыл бұрын

Dusky Racer I spaced out too thinking about how I don't think quietly to myself enough haha

@fauberkaupfmann982

5 жыл бұрын

Just get out of your american pedestal and learn a foreign language so you could speak to everyone in that time, geez. I can only imagine an american in a cardboard box in the middle of athens surrounded by athenian people trying to teach english to all of them, while they're thinking : "is this a hobo that went nuts?" 😂

@neeharavi

5 жыл бұрын

@@fauberkaupfmann982 perfect situation to become Diogenes

Love this ❤️

Top notch channel.

The first Jesus ever

@The.Zen.Cyn1c

7 жыл бұрын

That was my first thought. Jesus probably read about Socrates just like he did about Buddha and other mystics.

@rickyg8462

7 жыл бұрын

Robert The Fool thanks to our friend, Alexander...Jesus cud have heard of Socrates and Buddha

@robinjohnson6386

6 жыл бұрын

Yes.... Socrates was hated because he knew there is only ONE God.

@lyradnikral2081

5 жыл бұрын

Funny, that's what I say

If only Socrates knowledge spread, Instead of Christianity.The world would have been so much better

@isbillcosbyinnocent9778

6 жыл бұрын

Navneet Singh What about all the other religions?

@abednadir2134

6 жыл бұрын

Question everything!

@lifewasgiventous1614

5 жыл бұрын

What a naive comment.

@slider903

5 жыл бұрын

Very misguided.

@ro2592

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah sure, always Christianity...

Lovely!

Gotta love Socrates & his life philosophies

I could have founded a new Religion, but I didn't.. because Religions are too mainstream...

@abednadir2134

6 жыл бұрын

I'm feeling cynical about this comment....

I think Socrates was missing God in his search. True evil is not out of ignorance, it is out of evil and disregard for their fellow man.

@The_Real_Indiana_Joe

9 жыл бұрын

When you die, and go before Him, let Him know how you feel about it.

@The_Real_Indiana_Joe

9 жыл бұрын

***** Not trying to scare you, just open your eyes. Basically people have a choice; to believe that God made this world, or one huge explosion made this world (big bang). I have never seen a God, but i have seen big explosions. Explosions are not constructive. Not one bit. Then there is the second law of thermodynamics to deal with. A very constant law and settled, but scientist ignore it when discussing God.

@thewhiterat9889

9 жыл бұрын

Indiana Joe i've been reading a book on Socrates (Socrates: A life examined) and he claims to have heard the voice of god (or at least the author claims some of his sources claim Socrates claims to have heard the voice of god) and that he was not polytheistic.

@thewhiterat9889

9 жыл бұрын

***** correct me if i am mistaken, but if morality is man made (as i assume you believe) then god can not be good or bad because there is no actual good or bad.

@The_Real_Indiana_Joe

9 жыл бұрын

Morality is not man made, IMO, it is instilled by God.

10:10 …. The scholar's name in Gregory Vlastos, not George. Very nice video on the ideas of Socrates.

Great vid

Has socrates ever stopped to wonder how you can know that you know nothing, while knowing nothing at the same time? XD sorry bad joke

@MrGunningpeter

9 жыл бұрын

Randall Lin I think one can know that one thinks one knows nothing.

@concernedcitizen780

8 жыл бұрын

+Nilton Fernandes The wise man says he knows nothing. The fool says he knows more than that. Socrates probably had a chuckle when he heard he was the wisest of men. He knew he had no special knowledge or wisdom. Thus all men must be fools.... or unwilling to seek the truth or knowledge.

@simonkohli107

7 жыл бұрын

I think Socrates was talking about expert knowledge of moral virtue, not all knowledge in general. Essentially he was saying he did not possess expert knowledge of moral virtue; other people, however, did claim to possess it but in reality they didn't. Socrates knew he wasn't an expert in those things and so he was free to examine, learn and improve, while the others were stuck with their self-satisfied opinions, denying themselves the opportunity to improve. Perhaps that's what made Socrates wiser?

@neeharavi

5 жыл бұрын

Is a great joke

Christianty really messed it all up.

@sirsim33

8 жыл бұрын

+Jack Stacks Exactly . When human race started to transcend and turn to the inner knowledge, came and kept us to the infant era ...

@slider903

5 жыл бұрын

Naive.

Virtues are our armor for our souls. It is like a compass to navigate our lives. Practicing true virtues gives peace to the mind and soul. Beware: Some would even state vice as a virtue.

Please repeat again & again ;)