Would you like to see more content like this? If you would, I'd *really appreciate you sharing it with someone who might enjoy it!* It involved 45 video layers, a dozen audio layers, and a whole week worth of 8-12 hour days. I didn't realise it would take this long, but if enough people want to see more, then maybe you'll see the Helm's Deep or the Seige of Minas Tirith on here sometime. Stay nerdy!

@CptCh4os

5 жыл бұрын

Video was uploaded but kept "private" until it was supposed to be released. @@lexsec

@fang609

5 жыл бұрын

I would loved to. You put a lot of effort in to this one.

@cinthiagoch

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, more strategy videos! This was more accurate than the movie, and explained things so much better.

@3l_Raro

5 жыл бұрын

I would love to see more videos like this PD: awesome video

@slothmasterjack9646

5 жыл бұрын

Hello Future Me Congrats on 300 k subscribers, I have been here since 500

Goblins: *are about to win* Eagles:im about to end this armys whole career Goblins: *still have a chance of winning* Beorn:im about to end what remains of there career

@mefrym6393

3 жыл бұрын

*their

@avonthesageoc4980

3 жыл бұрын

@@mefrym6393 YRU'OE*

Tolkiens description of Beorn coming in out of nowhere and blasting through the goblin armies like a lightning blast and literally crushing Bolg like he was nothing always gives me goosebumps.

Huh. Forty-five years after reading the account of this battle, and I finally understand what happened.

I love this. Any Total War player worth their salt would love this.

@TheNowerianRaven

5 жыл бұрын

It would probably take a lot of salt to be worth something

@edoardoprevelato6577

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheNowerianRaven because you didn't live during the XIII - XIV centuries, when a box of salt was very well worth a life.

@TheNowerianRaven

5 жыл бұрын

@@edoardoprevelato6577 I was more hoping it was a reference to the recent epizode of Critical Role. Thats why i replied with what i did. Its a part of a conversation from that epizode

@edoardoprevelato6577

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheNowerianRaven no, i was literal, as "worth their salt" comes from the astronomic cost of salt during those times, along with the modern term "salary"

@laurenzreichelt4911

5 жыл бұрын

TheNowerianRaven critrole reference!

Beorn is such an awesome character. He singlehandedly turned one of the largest battles of the third age (excluding the war of the ring)

@Sipu97

5 жыл бұрын

Really?? It isn't that much described in the book how Bard killed Smaug so I don't see why you are whining about it.

@Sipu97

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah you are right about the part where he uses Bain, that's unrealistic and odd but hey, it's fantasy. Besides, that is not any big problem when it comes to other troubles the film has so I don't see why anyone wants to waste their time on something like that. But I must agree, I'd preferred the version you described.

@fantasywind3923

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed Beorn is a great character, hehe it's a shame that Tolkien didn't described how his son Grimbeorn the Old was doing in time of War of the Ring (Beorn was already dead by that point), all we know is that the land of Beornings was attacked (Frodo saw vision of Orcs coming out of the mountains to burn and pillage at Amon Hen). From Th Hobbit we learn how Beorn's descendants all inherited his powers of shapeshifting and other such gifts.

@obaolori

4 жыл бұрын

@@fantasywind3923 in scandinavian folklore manbjörn excists though not always at the side of good more for their own feeding and benefit i mean men that can transfom into bear

@avonthesageoc4980

4 жыл бұрын

If Beorn had more screen time the movie would be far far far far far better

"What a perfectly structured, dramatic, and realistic battle sequence for us to ignore in favor of legolas killing everything" -Peter Jackson

@brianweyne5723

2 жыл бұрын

I never heard people complain of legolas killing a hundred uruk hai in the ladders or a giant mumakil and all the easterlings on top of it.

@aydenulery9562

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianweyne5723 because the writing in lord of the rings wasn’t awful

@1orangutan656

2 жыл бұрын

Legolas was the 5th. Army

@CommunityFan

Жыл бұрын

Jackson wasn't at fault, it was all corporate stuff that screwed the movies over

@benmoore8809

Жыл бұрын

@@brianweyne5723 Well Legolas was actually IN the LotR books; he was never mentioned in The Hobbit, so there's that. And if you've never heard anyone complaining about his portrayal in the LotR movies, let me be the first. It makes me groan every time he hogs the spotlight for some "cool" cinematic stunt that trivializes the enemies they're fighting.

Wish the movie had done the battle with this amount of clarity.

@Hasharin14

5 жыл бұрын

The extended version did. Shame they did cut crucial parts :(

@PoorManatee6197

5 жыл бұрын

العربية No it didn't, the battle is messy as fuck

@Huggieg1

5 жыл бұрын

@@Hasharin14 The extended version makes 0 sense. There's suddenly "Twirly-Wurlies" which fire two shots then disappear for the entire fight. The dwarves and elves are all fighting each other then perfectly in form when the orcs/goblins arrive with no death. The only thing that vaguely made sense was the goat and goat chariots for when Thorin magically gets up to Ravenhill. But even that was done poorly. The battle in the unextended vaguely makes sense even if it's awful CGI fest. The extended just is a clusterfuck of 0 continuity

@matthewcejka8923

4 жыл бұрын

Hugo G when the dwarfs charge and then made a shield wall didn’t they have like 500 people or more in the back round doing nothing then the goat riders not all of them died in the charge but I still love dwarfs in fantasy and lord of the rings.

@BritskNguyen

4 жыл бұрын

every scene of the battle in the movie is a butchery of tactical logics imho.

I love Tolkien to death but I just realized how much of this battle is just people showing up late

@mkim721

4 жыл бұрын

That's basically every single wars in history. It's often forgotten how incredibly difficult it is to manage a large army, especially in those ages where there wasn't any forms of wireless communications between the forces.

@Kaiser_Wilhelm_IV.

4 жыл бұрын

Walder Frey and his armies haven't even arrived yet...

@johnstamos4186

4 жыл бұрын

Just look at the battle of Antietam...it was the late arrival of A.P. Hill that saved Lee's army from total destruction. It happened all the time in the past so don't go thinking that this battle was too simple.

@bobguylikescheese9878

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnstamos4186 Gettysburg as well, was marked by the slow arrival of both union and confederate forces

@abderrahimbenmoussa4359

4 жыл бұрын

Basically every war, especially medieval ones. Or people not showing up or too late but the word of them coming pushing the enemy to a ferocious last attacks that success.

This is awesome! Lovely stuff man. Helms Deep would be incredible to see!!

@budderbrinejr

5 жыл бұрын

I don't know though. While it is quite an epic seige, I think the explanation could only last a few minutes.

@spyhippo2736

3 жыл бұрын

You wanna kiss me?

@user-vs1xe1kv5n

Жыл бұрын

@@spyhippo2736 lol

This was much better than the movie. I hope you make more videos like this.

@JoeXTheXJuggalo1

5 жыл бұрын

The 1970s movie awesome. The junk that came out a few years ago is well junk

@Hasharin14

5 жыл бұрын

Did you see the extended version? It's far superior than the battle depicted in this video

@daveski7

5 жыл бұрын

@@Hasharin14 Nice joke, mate.

@JoeXTheXJuggalo1

5 жыл бұрын

@@daveski7 I know. He had me ROFLing good.

@JoeXTheXJuggalo1

5 жыл бұрын

@@Hasharin14 I'd still like, choose, and say the 1977 Hobbit cartoon is far superior to the Hobbit crap that came out a few years ago. Tolkien would roll over in his grave if he saw the movie they just did.

Someones been watching BazBattles. But please give me more. I want every large scale conflict in LotR!

@HelloFutureMe

5 жыл бұрын

BazBattles is incredible! ~ Tim

@thorshammer7883

5 жыл бұрын

Hello Future Me There's also great battles in the Left Behind books also like the battle of Israel in Glorious Appealing, Armageddon, and Remnant.

@MrNicoJac

5 жыл бұрын

You should do a colab with BazB!!

@wint3rki11

5 жыл бұрын

Bazbattles and general something (I forget) are great.

@Maggoz777

5 жыл бұрын

@@HelloFutureMe I actually began watching the video thinking it was BazBattles until I recognized you're voice.. Keep doing these with fictional battles please! How bout something from Dragonlance or ASOIAF battles, huh? :)

Please do more battle strategy videos! I absolutely love the analysis of militaristic strategies - The Battle of Helm’s deep and The siege of Minas Tirith would be outstanding! :)

@kersonwoodyjames5784

5 жыл бұрын

check out BazBattle, that is where he got this from, they do real historical battles and a few game of thrones battles aswell.

@KommanderKurt

5 жыл бұрын

Karston James cool thx

@Slayerlord0

5 жыл бұрын

Seconded

@samuelhaffey

5 жыл бұрын

would love to see this as well. u get like and a comment lol

@KommanderKurt

5 жыл бұрын

Samuel Haffey 🙏

One thing I would quickly like to point out: Thorin was overcome with greed, and never had any intent on giving the men or the elves any of the treasure; he merely said he would to buy time, while sending letters for Dain to hurry there. When Dain arrived, the elves and the men tried once again to ask for gold, but they were met with arrows from Thorin's bow before they could even get close enough to say anything. Also, Bilbo did not return "incredibly wealthy"; believing that others deserved the treasure more, and not knowing how he would cart all that treasure home, he decided instead to take two small chests: one filled with gold, one filled with silver; such that a strong pony could carry. He then collected the troll hoard on his way home, but he had to spend a lot of his reward buying back his possessions, as the Hobbits assumed he had died and auctioned his belongings.

@drakor98

5 жыл бұрын

Matthew St. Cyr I mean, a chest of gold sounds like incredible wealth to me.

@matthewmuir8884

5 жыл бұрын

Perhaps, but he did have to spend much of it buying back his belongings after the Hobbits auctioned it all off; having assumed he had died. Plus, the book specified "two small chests; such that a strong pony could carry".

@Sivart343

5 жыл бұрын

@@matthewmuir8884 Bilbo was independently wealthy prior to the events of the Hobbit, and also I do seem to recall he collected the troll hoard on the return journey in addition to his two chests of gold. Bilbo employed at least a gardener, and unless I am mistaken collected rents from Bagshot Row. Additionally, the epilogue notes that his waistcoat has gold buttons opposed to brass. I would say that going from wealthy enough to not have a day job to wealthy enough to get a reputation for gift giving and some degree of extravagance would be incredibly wealthy, even if his contemporaries exaggerated his wealth in rumor.

@MrNicoJac

5 жыл бұрын

"The wealth of Moria was not in gold or jewels, but mithril. Bilbo had a shirt of mithril rings that Thorin gave him. I never told him, but its worth was greater than the value of the Shire." Incredibly wealthy can be taken literally in this case.... kzread.info/dash/bejne/n5dl2s-NZpbFe84.html

@matthewmuir8884

5 жыл бұрын

@Sivart343 True that he was independently wealthy beforehand, he did collect the troll hoard on the return journey, and he did replace the brass buttons that had fallen off with gold buttons. I'm just pointing out that he returned only with enough that a strong pony could carry, and he had to spend quite a bit of it, in very sharp contrast to the originally agreed 1/14th share of the treasure and Dain having wanted it that Bilbo be the most richly rewarded of all of them.

That was way more clear than either movie or book; thank you.

@inkedg0d579

4 жыл бұрын

You looks like a orc are you azog cousin?

@davidnelson702

4 жыл бұрын

Nothing is better than the books.

@spikeannoyed

4 жыл бұрын

He had added a few things in here that are not in the book ... very good video however

This is what I wanted the movie to feature. The tactics and strategies is what made the battle seem so real. The movie didn't provide them, so the battle became a mess. The clash between the dwarves and elves work, but after that it all goes downhill. The worms, elves jumping over the dwarven shield wall, the messy battle in Dale and, the biggest offender, Thorin's charge from the mountain. In the book it makes some sense. Yes there is only 13 of them, but they are armed and armored with the finest dwarven weapons and armor, they have complete surprise and come at the goblins on their flank. This panics them, and Thorin is swiftly reinforced by his kin and allies, leading a do or die, all or nothing, charge at Bolg himself. It has a logic to it, Thorin has the (edit) moment*um*, the goblins are in disarray, if he can kill Bolg... But he doesn't manage it. He can't break through Bolg's guard. His attack is bogged down, the goblins rally, and he's surrounded and cut down, his two cousins falling defending his body. That's what I wanted in the movie. Not necessarily every detail, but the spirit of it, more sense less flash.

@budderbrinejr

5 жыл бұрын

I think that if they're going to force it into 3 movies, then the 3rd movie (named after the battle) should include all the cool details of the battle!

@chrissmith3587

4 жыл бұрын

Andreas Widham the elves jumping over the dwarves was the only thing I couldn’t accept being artistic license, it was stupid you have a wall of pikes the single best weapon for stopping a charge and a giant mass of bodies running at the said wall, you can either shoot the charging army or jump to your death so that the goblins push you onto the dwarven spears what sane person would jump over

@goodputin4324

4 жыл бұрын

Kili and Fili are his nephews, not cousins

@Aurora2097

4 жыл бұрын

Yes.The film, both theatrical and extended veryion, were such rubbish, especially the battle was unreListic and dumb. I like how this video explains and shows how well thought through Tolkien had devised this important battle.The man was well versed in history and had been an officer in ww1, he knew a bit about such things.Peter Jackson - zero!

@blockobutter

4 жыл бұрын

They wanted a quick action at the end. Realistic battle tactics, most of the audience won't give a shit about. The only people who would give a shit about it are the hardass I-wanted-it-exactly-as-the-book fuckers like you and me. However, it's still a movie that needs to appeal to the masses who may or may not have read the book (and even if they did they wouldn't care about realism of battle tactics.) The battle looked cool, and that was enough for them. That was the best the team could do to compromise accuracy with general cinematography. Same with every other book adaptations. The lotr movies were better done, but many things were added/ modified to suit the environment of the film. If the book had been copy and pasted into the movie, it would have been an undoubtedly shit movie altogether, to book readers or not.

I never knew I needed a fantasy video in the style of Historia Civilis. Thank you for making this.

Play of The Game: Beorn (Insert Overwatch music as Beorn smashes the goblin army)

@aysseralwan

5 жыл бұрын

Nerf beorn lol

Man.... This video was so awesome! I definitely see that it took a lot of hard work to make it, but it all truly paid off in the end! The Battle of Five Armies is so facinating to me in terms of it's tactics and strategy, and still to this day it is one of my most favorite battles in the entire Legendarium! I cannot wait to see more! :)

@darking30

5 жыл бұрын

gondolin siege!

@aB-of1nz

5 жыл бұрын

You kidding! That movie sucked as hell and the battle was the lamest Ive ever seen, a movie for retards and 6 y/old kids

Probably the best Middle Earth battle. It's such a shame that the movies were crap. Beorn was neglected as a character when he was probably the most instrumental person for the defeat of the Goblins.

@thomassaldana2465

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed, especially about the movies being crap. Peter Jackson is great with cinematography and emotional music, but completely useless with battles. There's almost no sense of a chain of command or greater tactical planning, and the battle lines always get abandoned after the first three seconds because he thinks hundreds of individual duels look cool.

@JoeXTheXJuggalo1

5 жыл бұрын

The 1970s movie was good. The movies that came out a few years ago was junk.

@TheAchilles26

5 жыл бұрын

Hollywood collectively prefers the stupid multitude of individual duels over actual formation fighting. And it's a real shame, because proper formation combat can still be epic and even entertaining.

@JoeXTheXJuggalo1

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheAchilles26 and Hollywood wants take something awesome and adding a bunch of CGI computer junk, change characters, change storylines, and slap a remake/reboot on the cover.

@twanduvigneau5809

5 жыл бұрын

@@thomassaldana2465 I don't agree, he directed the siege of Hellms deep, that was one of the best sieges put on film ever.

Aww man, you totally could've just quoted the passage about Beorn when he takes down Bolg. "Swiftly he returned, and his wrath was redoubled so that none could withstand him and no weapon seemed to bite upon him. He scattered the bodyguard and pulled Bolg himself and crushed him." I get an ASMR reaction whenever I hear Robert Ingless read that passage.

Instantly recognized the Inkarnate artwork. Such an awesome program. If anyone is even remotely interested in making fantasy maps, I really recommend them!

@GnarledStaff

5 жыл бұрын

Irondil Thank you!

@Jackb290

5 жыл бұрын

I heard they can claim your maps

@valentinmitterbauer4196

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jackb290 Yep, they have the legal right to do so. Also some content is blocked behind the paywall. I am looking forward to Wonderdraft instead (also coastlines are way easier there) kzread.info/dash/bejne/c3ycmNGfcbC7es4.html

@Jackb290

5 жыл бұрын

@@valentinmitterbauer4196 I already bought wonderdraft its pretty cool

@budderbrinejr

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, wonderdraft is, in fact, great.

This was as suspensful as actually reading/watching this battle. You did an amazing job on this video! Keep up the good work!

Also, if it possible, cover some of the battles in the silmarillion

@TheAchilles26

5 жыл бұрын

I will probably cry of they do the Nirnaeth Arnoediad

@construtordemundos3420

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheAchilles26 is that the battle under the stars or one of the many seiges of the Thongorodrim?

@TheAchilles26

4 жыл бұрын

@@construtordemundos3420, it was when they tried to restore the Siege of Angband and the Elves got wiped out instead

@construtordemundos3420

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheAchilles26 oh, as I suspected

That was really cool. Would be amazing to see some of the other legendary battles done this way

The exact second you mentioned the treasure an ad popped up about gold rings. How appropriate.

This is exactly the kind of content I wish was more common on KZread. It would be awesome as a series like the one you did for Elder Scrolls. The War of the Ring and the War of the Jewels are both full of fascinating battles.

Loved this video I’ve always loved fantasy medical battles played out from a strategic viewpoint and you showcased it brilliantly, well done and please do more of these.

I'm glad things like this exist and that so many people have watched it.

I thought dragons have a sixth sense to wealth and treasure that forcibly draws them to it like moths to a flame

@In.Gy.

5 жыл бұрын

GIVE ME WEÄLTH BRÖTHER

@spooder_jockey

5 жыл бұрын

Is treasure like a lämp?

@davidmccarthy4206

5 жыл бұрын

BRÖTHER DO YOU HAVE HÖARD

@michimatsch5862

5 жыл бұрын

Are you a DnD player? Because in Faerun, Ebberon and the Forgotten Realms it is that way.

This video is incredibly well made with awesome production values, very professional overall, well done!

Love how the animations support the narrative and give a clear overview of multiple aspects of the story at the same time. Keep up the good work!

Unpopular opinion, despite the hobbit trilogy’s shortcomings. I still enjoyed them

@lowercase_the

5 жыл бұрын

They’re definitely entertaining but I prefer the book more

@heyits17

5 жыл бұрын

Yup, unpopular. Lol

@wint3rki11

5 жыл бұрын

I actually like the hobbit more than Lord of the rings.

@wint3rki11

5 жыл бұрын

@@John-ir4id the Lord of the rings had many changes too. Personally, I like the hobbit more than lotr. I still lioe lord of the rings but I just love the slow build up to the massive battle at the end. I dont see any issues with cgi, acting was great, and the over all movie was fun. Plus, its not as boring was the book was. Yes, I understand the complaint for making up a new character and bringing in another character from Lord of the rings, but I really feel like the movie would be lacking without it. The only compaint I really have about the hobbit is maybe that forced romantic feelings between the dwarf and elf.

@twanduvigneau5809

5 жыл бұрын

@@wint3rki11 it's a shame the battle of the five armies was a mess. Look at the battles in the lord of the rings, they where executed so great compared to the last hobbit

Really puts into perspective how incredibly brutal the battle was, the men elves and dwarves all lost over half their forces

This was so intense from start to finish, even though I've already got the whole battle memorized. Great Job Tim!!

This video helped me find your channel, I would regularly watch and enjoy this type of content!

I've only seen the movies and was so confused. You explained it so simply thanks.

3:54 this is where I see the biggest flaw in tolkiens entire saga. He totally seems to forget about logistics. What would those 500 armored men eat, while fighting of the besiegers?

@AnnaMarianne

4 жыл бұрын

That is a good question. Generally speaking Dwarves don't seem to produce their own food, but aquire it through trade. So how did they historically survive in similar situations, which must have been at least reasonably reoccuring to require preplanning. They must usually have been stocked up well with unperishing food. In this situation there would have been nothing in Erebor, but Dain probably would have brought provisions. How much could he have brought? And how could they have gotten them inside Erebor? Let's assume they had carts laden with food with them when they journeyd from the Iron Hills. They could have left those carts guarded in the hills. The plan was that once the reinforcements had breached the lines of Elves and Men and gotten inside Erebor, they would have reopened some of the side entrances to flank the enemy. They knew the enemy couldn't besiege the entire mountain. So if those theoretical guarded provisions existed somewhere reasonably nearby, they could have brought them in through some opened side entrance, hopefully before it was found out by the enemy scouts. And if they survived long enough in the mountain, they could probably hope for even more Dwarvish allies to arrive and force the enemy to give up. I think they would have been in far better position convincing other Dwarves to help them than the Mirkwood Elves or the Lakemen would have been in finding allies. The Dwarves of the Blue Mountains surely would have sent help - many of them were refugees of Erebor themselves. But why would Elrond or Galadriel get involved in this mess? Or what help the scattered Woodsmen could or would give to their relatives? Just my theory.

@y.r._

4 жыл бұрын

@@AnnaMarianne I like the way you think and all the details you consider. You seem to be a true historian xD

This is brilliant. Amazing work, and I'd love to see more videos like that.

I literally watched all your Tolkien content late last night and wished for more. Thanks!

It should be renamed to hobbit we use Eagles for every thing

@durinV

5 жыл бұрын

The same did Morgoth during the first age with dragons and balrogs when the battle seemed lost xD

@bcn1gh7h4wk

5 жыл бұрын

"SCREEMEN EEGLEEEEE!" _BWAAAGH BWAGH!! _*_BRWAAAAGH!_*

@Sipu97

5 жыл бұрын

It happened in canon and was explained well. Do your research, or if you are aware of it; you make yourself look ignorant.

@budderbrinejr

5 жыл бұрын

@@Sipu97 They aren't saying it didn't happen and it wasn't explained well, they were just joking about how the eagles do often easily solve many problems.

The battle would have been awesome in the movie if they built up that same anticipationthey built for the Hornburg in the Two Towers. Imagine if the orc army marched through the valley while the men, dwarves and elves waited for the right time to ambush. The battle at the movies was an abomination instead...

@ComradeAurelian

5 жыл бұрын

I think the movies were still good, far from a masterpiece but still they were really enjoyable

Thank you for this kind of video. It’s just the sort of content I enjoy. Battles and strategies is a hobby of mine and I have studied the battles of the Lord of the Rings extensively with books and maps from different authors. This is the first time I’ve seen this type of troop movement animated and I really appreciated it. Very well done and thank you so much. I would definitely enjoy further such videos.

Well done! Such an amazing story. Thanks for posting.

This video reminds me of another youtube channel named Bazbattles.

This eleven minute video was more interesting than all of the movie of the same name.

Thank you! I feel like I can never get enough of this battle

I just got to this part in my re-reading of The Hobbit and this helps so much to visualize what happened! Thank you for this

The battle of five armies is done, the battle for middle earth has just begun......

Great video, as always ! Thank you very much. But I have one question, which are the five armies ? I have been struggling with that for years, can anyone help ? I

@vukodsrbije

5 жыл бұрын

The Men of Dale, The Mirkwood Elves, The Dwarves of Iron Hills, The Gundabad Horde, and the Beorn with Eagles

@7OwlsWithALaptop

5 жыл бұрын

Vukasin Popovic hm... The Humans of Laketown The Elves The dwarves in the mountain Dales dwarves The Goblins

@_stayoung_

5 жыл бұрын

1. Men of Dale 2. Mirkwood Elves 3. Goblins 4. Iron Hills Dwarves 5. Thorin's company or wargs & bats or eagles & Beorn or the movie orcs. No one really knows

@vukodsrbije

5 жыл бұрын

@@7OwlsWithALaptop I don't think that an army consists of 13 members...

@devan6935

5 жыл бұрын

men of dale, mirkwood elves dwarves bolg's army another goblin army

Yes! Another one! Keep up the good work. I'd love to see more.

I gotta say, this was really cool. Wouldn't mind seeing more like this in the future!

If only the goblins had waited a little so that the elves and dwarves would have killed each other...

What is your source for this? As I remember it the battle was never shown in the book because Bilbo was unconscious after the first few seconds. I would very much like to see other big battles and hopefully one that make more sense than this one.

@cristianbernal8009

5 жыл бұрын

Chapters 15,16 and 17 in the hobbit book as well as the Atlas of middle earth

@CptCh4os

5 жыл бұрын

Is the Atlas of Middle Earth by Tolkien? It sounds interesting though I feel this battle has quite a few logic holes @@cristianbernal8009

@cristianbernal8009

5 жыл бұрын

It isnt, but is entirely and solely based on the works of tolkien and has been revised with Tolkiens son releasing all of his fathers original works. This is tolkien full and full.

@matthewmuir8884

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, he was awake until the eagles arrived, and a rock fell on his head. Bilbo (and the audience) was later filled in on the rest of what happened in the next two chapters.

Wait this was such an incredibly well done video. So enjoyable to watch and listen to. I commend you on an incredibly well done video once again.

I love strategy videos soooo much, this is awesome!

"Rudimentary but simple?" You do know those are synonyms, right?

@bredrick.

4 жыл бұрын

They may be synonyms, but they do mean the same thing.

@arandombard1197

4 жыл бұрын

@@bredrick. In which case, there is no need for the 'but as you not contrasting anything. The more common phrasing here would be "rudimentary but effective", as in "these are basic and unrefined tactics, BUT they still work despite that."

@madeking4

4 жыл бұрын

@@arandombard1197 Simple tactics are very important on the battlefield, complicated tactics fall apart very easily. Bombarding the enemy with trebuchet would be a tactic that's simple but not rudimentary given the mechanics involved. Charging the enemy from 5 side with 5 different armies would be a rudimentary tactic but not simple. There is an important contrast there. Advanced tactics are good, complicated tactics are bad.

@arandombard1197

4 жыл бұрын

@@madeking4 Lol, no. He made a grammatical mistake. No need to bend over backwards to try and justify it. Especially considering none of your examples apply to the video that his comment was about.

@madeking4

4 жыл бұрын

@@arandombard1197 I'm sorry if you can't see the distinction between the simple rudimentary tactic of having a line of archers fire from a hill compared to the mess of over complicated but rudimentary tactics used elsewhere in this battle, and the importance of it.

That's military history visualized

@grimmshredsanguinus2915

4 жыл бұрын

More like italian or greek military tactics

This is my favorite video you have yet to make, I love videos like this, Keep it up please!, i know its a lot to ask, but il ask it noone the less

This was awesome! Hope to see more of these.

This is very different from the movie.

@Moonbear-it4ty

5 жыл бұрын

The Hobbit movies might as well be a different story compared to the book.

BEORN MVP!!!

Just subbed to your channel after watching this video. I really enjoyed it and would love it if you made more. Thanks for producing it!

Great use of inkarnet for the maps Love the video hope you do more like this

cheat code to LOTR: send in the EAGLES

Why they couldnt move into Erebor and defend using its fortifications?

@In.Gy.

5 жыл бұрын

Thorin was being a bitchly, if I remember correctly.

@devan6935

5 жыл бұрын

@@In.Gy. as soon as the news of goblins was heard, they should've convinced him to open the gate, let them in and then rebuild the barricade

@In.Gy.

5 жыл бұрын

@@devan6935 I think they tried, actually! But Thorin locked himself in his treasure room, being a bitchly, and the others were too loyal to their king and company leader to sally out without him. It wasn't until the battle was joined that Thorin realized how much of a bitchly he was being by letting Dain and the dwarves he had called to help him, die for him outside and on their own, that he finally decided to go help them.

@MrNicoJac

5 жыл бұрын

because of dragon sickness plot drama ;-)

@TheAchilles26

5 жыл бұрын

Because there wasn't anywhere even remotely near enough time for any such thing. Once the goblin army arrived (and in Tolkien's books, there is none of the difference between goblins and Orcs that DnD introduced and the movies clung to), the only option was to stand and fight.

Damn it dude. Your stuff is always so great I'll drop what I'm watching for it.

Really Nice work Dude

So were Beorn and the Eagles the 5th army or was the 5th army the Goblin reinforcements?

@matejcepel2912

5 жыл бұрын

1.mens of lake town 2.elves of mirkwood 3. dwarves 4. orcs of moria and dol guldur 5. orcs of gundabad (that orc reinforcements)

@won1853

5 жыл бұрын

Actually in the book the 5th army was Wargs (evil wolves). While Goblins often used them as mounts, Wargs were actually an intelligent race of creatures with their own language. The relationship between Goblins and Wargs described in the book is alliance, not master and servant. The movies screwed up and downgraded them to generic CGI monsters. Instead they added a second Goblin army. Lame. On the other hand, for some reason Tolkien didn't include the Eagles as one of the armies, despite being highly intelligent creatures. My guess is they were left out because they're basically air force and didn't participate in the ground battles. Likewise the bats on the Goblins' side didn't count. But that's just my guess.

@matejcepel2912

5 жыл бұрын

@@won1853 wow iam huuge LOTR fun but i didnt know that about wargs .. i thought they are just tamed wolves used by orcs

Try to get a channel that does the strategy army stuff like Kings and Generals to do this Your narration is good but the army needs a bit of work

Well done. I love the use of the Incarnate map making tool it fits the overall atmosphere

Excellent presentation, thanks.

Finally, I understand this battle! It has always been so confusing for me. I think that more videos like this would be great, especially for the battles that were never covered on film, such as pivotal ones from the Silmarillion.

That was dope nice visual queues

Loved this vid! You should make some for the Battles of Helms Deep, Pelennor Fields and the Black Gate

Excellent video. Seeing the strategy and tactics of this pivotal battle was amazing. Perhaps do the Battle of Dale in 3019 TA next? Or the Battle of Amon Sûl during the Arnorian Wars?

Make more of these. You already know bout ES lore and these are really enjoyable.

This is amazing work!!

I really like this kind of content, hope to see more soon

This was fairly entertaining. I wouldn't mind seeing more of this.

Love it, thanks to YOU that I finally figured out what exactly went on between Tolkien's lines... This reminds me so much of Total War and Ultimate General, and Beron of course, much like Kira and Athrun from Gundam SEED, turning the battlefield single-handedly...

well done. thank you for the video!

Nice use of inkarnate! I use it all the time, I never thought about using it for videos. You should look into the pro version, especially if you are going to do more videos like this :). Great job, love it!

Just discovered your channel, really cool!

Hey Tim, not sure if you had any plans to do another one of these battle style videos, but I think it would be very interesting to see your thoughts on the Angmar War between the Kingdoms of Arnor and the Witch-King of Angmar (LotR). Thanks again for the awesome videos!

I figured it out. You're the *oversimplified* of fantasy. Amazing work as usual

*Hears your voice* *was expecting Baz Battles* *checks description* OH! Hey, man, thought you were someone else. Good video! I'd love to see more of it. 4:57 - A WIZARD DID IT

Yes more of this army stuff please!!

More like this, please! Like all of the battle on middle earth (craving for it)

Yes!!!!!!!!!! Please, I’ve been trying to find a good summarization of the battle of the pelenor fields

So you're going to make videos like Kings and Generals and Baz battles, only with fantasy-battles? I'd love to see that! And I am sure if you go for that, as you gain experience after making more videos, the substansial work load will become easier and less time consuming

I cannot tell you how much Goblins riding wolves/wargs blew my little child mind. I need to reread Hobbit now.. Also, Battle of the 5.1 Armies - go Beorn!!

This was a really cool video I would really love to see more

I would love to see all the major battles from the beginning of Aarde please!

Damn! This was freaking amazing!

This was great 👏🏻👏🏻

Excellent! If only the movie was as well executed as this video. Great job

This was great I love how you used Inkarnate to do it

Another master piece. Can you make a video on the dead people under the mountain and the black stone.

more of these battle overviews please!