The History of Speculative Zoology - Part 1

Speculative Zoology is a very fun topic to talk about. It also has a pretty long history going back more than 100 years, so we're going to take a look at some of these past projects.
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  • @dinofreak222
    @dinofreak2224 жыл бұрын

    Lol I've had this profile pic since 2010

  • @theodoris

    @theodoris

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mad respect

  • @Apudurangdinya

    @Apudurangdinya

    4 жыл бұрын

    you can't fool us zuckerberg, i know all your secret

  • @cobraarms2466

    @cobraarms2466

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ten years..all for this moment

  • @jayizilly

    @jayizilly

    3 жыл бұрын

    💯

  • @kylegribble

    @kylegribble

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just gonna go ahead and call it if there is a female version of these I got dibs on anal during a double stuff lol

  • @juankgonzalez6230
    @juankgonzalez62305 жыл бұрын

    "The Snouters" looks like god-tier scientifical shitposting

  • @MiloTheOpossum

    @MiloTheOpossum

    4 жыл бұрын

    They pretty much are

  • @user-lq4ct6dr5m

    @user-lq4ct6dr5m

    3 жыл бұрын

    I really thought they are real

  • @SHDUStudios

    @SHDUStudios

    3 жыл бұрын

    The origins of shitposting, 1972 colorized

  • @markel4745

    @markel4745

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is

  • @jayvhoncalma3458

    @jayvhoncalma3458

    3 жыл бұрын

    I never know the raboon existed as a animal in speculative biology I only knew about the raboon because of Rocket

  • @viccorum4640
    @viccorum46403 жыл бұрын

    There's a book at my work titled, "Are humans smart enough to know how smart animals are" that challenges our understanding of the complexities of animal cognition.

  • @512TheWolf512

    @512TheWolf512

    3 жыл бұрын

    They're smart. They just couldn't be arsed to amuse us with demonstrating it

  • @Gianno_

    @Gianno_

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think animals can have different type of intelligence, but humans will often just view whatever relates with ourself as being the most smart if that makes sense. For example, a hawk being able to pursue its prey through thick trees, manoeuvring through trees etc, takes a lot of quick mental acuity, but we may find this trivial from an intelligence standpoint. Whereas we see a crow using a tool with its beak and think its super intelligent lol

  • @dumitrache12

    @dumitrache12

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Gianno_ thats because it requires a larger intelligence level to be capable of planning in the future and to use your surroundings to achieve goals

  • @dennisthemenace855

    @dennisthemenace855

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dumitrache12 saids who tho ?

  • @ceroew4239

    @ceroew4239

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dumitrache12 largest in terms of what. Many animals can reach that. Aka literally survivin in their environment, and usin whatever means necessary, in terms of plannin their future. Animals have migratory patterns, or are able to pass on huntin skills or trails. Youre provin the point of the og comment we're under. Humans dont fully understand nor should judge the complexities of animal intelligence, they always view under a human eye

  • @defscanvas7633
    @defscanvas76333 жыл бұрын

    I feel like lots of people are here because of All Tomorrows’ recent popularity

  • @sultanking3074

    @sultanking3074

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm also here because of all tomorrow's which made me revisit this video

  • @iceyyy9505

    @iceyyy9505

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah you're right

  • @jordi2596

    @jordi2596

    3 жыл бұрын

    Never heard of that boi

  • @cartmanbraahnd6660

    @cartmanbraahnd6660

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am bro

  • @ohyeahisthatwhatyouthink6088

    @ohyeahisthatwhatyouthink6088

    3 жыл бұрын

    I dont even know what youre referencing so, cool im unique

  • @jasepoag8930
    @jasepoag89305 жыл бұрын

    That dinosauroid was in a dinosaur documentary I used to watch almost every day as a kid. Haven't seen that thing in probably 23 years.

  • @DemitriVladMaximov

    @DemitriVladMaximov

    5 жыл бұрын

    Was it hosted by Christopher Reeves?

  • @lamecasuelas2

    @lamecasuelas2

    5 жыл бұрын

    Paleoworld??/

  • @kthemaster1999

    @kthemaster1999

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dinosaurs! With Christopher Reeves. You can find it on KZread

  • @jasepoag8930

    @jasepoag8930

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have no idea. I probably last watched it when I was 7. I'll check it out.

  • @jasepoag8930

    @jasepoag8930

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yep, that's definitely the one. I know what I'm watching this afternoon.

  • @armenhammer5015
    @armenhammer50153 жыл бұрын

    Dinosaurs evolving into intelligent, human like beings? Scientists didn't come up with that, that's the plot of the Super Mario Bros. movie

  • @xanderhoward2503

    @xanderhoward2503

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lmao yea

  • @lunchguy659

    @lunchguy659

    3 жыл бұрын

    myths of reptile/human hybrid type beings or parallel-evolved purebred reptiles that rule over/ manipulate/ enslave/ eat or otherwise torment us regular folk have been around for thousands of years.

  • @davidtyson6869

    @davidtyson6869

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes and no it was all by Design purposely orchestrated each and every case

  • @okidokidraws

    @okidokidraws

    3 жыл бұрын

    The dino people in Chrono Trigger in one of the endings took over their planet.

  • @davidtyson6869

    @davidtyson6869

    3 жыл бұрын

    stop thinking for 1 minute and do some research thank you

  • @giuseppegoddi4304
    @giuseppegoddi43045 жыл бұрын

    Basically spore is speculative zoology made into a game

  • @rockkiller124

    @rockkiller124

    5 жыл бұрын

    Even No Man Sky

  • @megazion34

    @megazion34

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not really

  • @krupke525

    @krupke525

    5 жыл бұрын

    Impossible creatures

  • @cygnusfloyd

    @cygnusfloyd

    5 жыл бұрын

    Except the game is shit.

  • @phoenixdavida8987

    @phoenixdavida8987

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Hamdon Nut hahaha

  • @ouroboricscribe3201
    @ouroboricscribe32013 жыл бұрын

    "They were as smart as emus" Australians: **spit out drink** Fucking wot!?

  • @YourFriendlyViewerMan

    @YourFriendlyViewerMan

    3 жыл бұрын

    Joey! Grab the tranks! But, in all seriousness, that was good!

  • @krajicsek13

    @krajicsek13

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just put a bounty on their heads and it's done

  • @SwoopGD
    @SwoopGD3 жыл бұрын

    One minute in and I've already ordered a copy of After Man. Update: received the book in the mail - my 9 year old son absolutely loves it - he's even started incorporating environmental influences in his monster drawings.

  • @ripelizzard2657

    @ripelizzard2657

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why not

  • @BADPERSONnn

    @BADPERSONnn

    2 жыл бұрын

    Danm that kid is smart

  • @AllytheGumby

    @AllytheGumby

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice 9 year old lol

  • @LadyhawksLairDotCom
    @LadyhawksLairDotCom5 жыл бұрын

    Speculative zoology, eh? In high school and college, I called it "doodling." I wish I could find my notes...

  • @purplehaze2358

    @purplehaze2358

    5 жыл бұрын

    I used to have a passion for creature design. I since stopped doing it, got rusty, and moved on to writing short stories.

  • @LadyhawksLairDotCom

    @LadyhawksLairDotCom

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@purplehaze2358 It would come back to you if you wanted to try it again. I'm forever cycling among talents: writing, art, singing, piano, etc. I went years without touching a piano, but muscle memory is a strange thing. The pieces I used to know come back fairly quickly, right along with mistakes I often made. When it comes to piano, you're suppose to practice perfection, but I'm not sure how to do that, exactly.

  • @purplehaze2358

    @purplehaze2358

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@LadyhawksLairDotCom Trust me, I did try it again.

  • @LadyhawksLairDotCom

    @LadyhawksLairDotCom

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@purplehaze2358 OK. XD Good luck with writing!

  • @chrollo4836

    @chrollo4836

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@LadyhawksLairDotCom Same thing happened with me and drawing

  • @tubeguy4066
    @tubeguy40663 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: the story for Jurassic Park 4 would have included human/dinosaur hybrid caused by mixing DNA.

  • @I_want_to_have_a_good_time

    @I_want_to_have_a_good_time

    3 жыл бұрын

    😬

  • @eternalroots6753

    @eternalroots6753

    3 жыл бұрын

    Who said this

  • @Kden21

    @Kden21

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@maj9260 its pretty common knowledge if you dive deep enough into jurassic park's history, you could easily find it on google. i would recommend watching Klayton Fioriti's video about it here on youtube: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hXuVs7uGkbGzqsY.html

  • @SOLIDSNAKE.

    @SOLIDSNAKE.

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup I can vouch! Would've been cool

  • @leolizard3152

    @leolizard3152

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SOLIDSNAKE. You’re pretty good.

  • @anarchy2795
    @anarchy27955 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if there is any speculative botany books

  • @garymeaney60

    @garymeaney60

    5 жыл бұрын

    Books, no, but many speculative projects have plants in them. There are the popular ones (e.g. TFIW's lichen trees, grass trees, Expedition's plaque bark trees), and the more obscure Internet projects abound with plants.

  • @kugelscheier5035

    @kugelscheier5035

    5 жыл бұрын

    There is! It is called "Parallel Botany".

  • @ryanfrogz

    @ryanfrogz

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Voynich Manuscript, maybe

  • @totticosta2977

    @totticosta2977

    4 жыл бұрын

    i like the way you think

  • @sonorasgirl

    @sonorasgirl

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kugelscheier5035 and now I have ANOTHER book to add to my list....

  • @DangerVille
    @DangerVille5 жыл бұрын

    Love this stuff, there’s some truly bizarre things people come up with. The best ones are the animals that are the least human, people need to stop thinking that the end result of evolution is the human form.

  • @Justin-zk5tr

    @Justin-zk5tr

    5 жыл бұрын

    hi danger

  • @MonkeBrain07

    @MonkeBrain07

    5 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. Thinking that we are the perfect life form is a bit shitty. Come to think of it, this might be the reason we haven't come into contact with aliens.

  • @Victor-056

    @Victor-056

    5 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, though a humanoid form is still possible. It's just not what they are limited to. Just look at the Hanar from Mass Effect. They don't even look humanoid, and they can communicate.

  • @henriqueribeiro8167

    @henriqueribeiro8167

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Victor-056 They communicate to each other though their bodies creating light patterns and with other species through universal translators. I loved them. Best thing is: ME3 +Javik= High tech religious Jellyfish with a living God. How could you fuk that up BioWare?!

  • @Nasmr1

    @Nasmr1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Why not? There are a shit ton of humanoid shaped animals. And considering how successful it is (became the most dominate animal on the planet) I can definitely imagine it being common

  • @legendre007
    @legendre0075 жыл бұрын

    _After Man_ by Dougal Dixon, is a classic. Thank you for introducing it to a new generation. 😊

  • @amuserearflap1031

    @amuserearflap1031

    5 жыл бұрын

    I am so happy right now. I had this book as a kid but never knew its name... Im gonna buy it again, probably the 2018 remake.

  • @purplehaze2358

    @purplehaze2358

    5 жыл бұрын

    After Man is probably my third favorite book of all time. Period. People *NEED* to read it.

  • @marshmallowmonster7731

    @marshmallowmonster7731

    5 жыл бұрын

    Check out All Tomorrows" by C.M Kosemen.

  • @imlivinginyourceiling

    @imlivinginyourceiling

    5 жыл бұрын

    I’m 11. Heard about it, and really wanted it immediately.

  • @purplehaze2358

    @purplehaze2358

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@imlivinginyourceiling An 11 year old in a comment section with a basic grasp on grammar, spelling, and punctuation? Color me impressed!

  • @ghostofnamalsk6188
    @ghostofnamalsk61885 жыл бұрын

    After Man was just the OG Pokémon of their time.

  • @ronniealicante8472

    @ronniealicante8472

    3 жыл бұрын

    your right

  • @hondaaccord1399

    @hondaaccord1399

    3 жыл бұрын

    Still waiting for a Pokemon based on one of these creatures

  • @FyoCoutch187
    @FyoCoutch1875 жыл бұрын

    I love how he can sit there and nonchalantly talk about the Night Stalker without pointing out the fact that it is straight nightmare fuel.. Jesus Christ imagine walking around at night in the woods while you're camping and you all of a sudden see this thing running towards you. 100 million % nope

  • @ianfinrir8724

    @ianfinrir8724

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's what the 12ga is for

  • @TheDeadman419

    @TheDeadman419

    Жыл бұрын

    Here's a quote from KZreadr Billiam when he talked about the After Man Series, specifically on the Night Stalker "If I saw this thing in real life I would run up to it and let it eat me because I wouldn't want to live in a world where this thing exists"

  • @batspidey7611
    @batspidey76115 жыл бұрын

    It’s so scary, yet interesting to learn about potential creatures to evolve from the current ones we have today. Whaddya think of The Future Is Wild?

  • @BenGThomas

    @BenGThomas

    5 жыл бұрын

    I've never actually watched the whole show, but from what I've seen there are some very interesting (though sometimes slightly implausible) ideas. Also seems one of the palaeontologists they interviewed managed to predict four-winged birds before Microraptor was even announced!

  • @burbclavefutur1527

    @burbclavefutur1527

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@BenGThomas My grandmother sent me the whole box set of dvds when I was a kid and it was my favorite thing to watch.

  • @matthewfinger2381

    @matthewfinger2381

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@BenGThomas it seemed interesting back then but tbh it has no plausibility and seems like random cool concepts slapped together with no real substance on how they would work naturally

  • @purplehaze2358

    @purplehaze2358

    5 жыл бұрын

    _The Future Is Wild_ is based on _After Man._

  • @Xenotaris

    @Xenotaris

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@livinghomunculus657 wait wasn't that a Snail?

  • @cyrilvamp7424
    @cyrilvamp74245 жыл бұрын

    Wow so essentially this is just a recommended book buylist made specifically for me

  • @curseoftheegglady

    @curseoftheegglady

    5 жыл бұрын

    And at least 18 other people (at the time of my reply), including myself

  • @magiv4205

    @magiv4205

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly lmao

  • @mattm2451

    @mattm2451

    5 жыл бұрын

    cyril vamp 62 now I also want all these books

  • @G0die16

    @G0die16

    5 жыл бұрын

    104

  • @kingofthebeast4024

    @kingofthebeast4024

    5 жыл бұрын

    curseoftheegglady now 208 including me

  • @Helmholtzwatson1984
    @Helmholtzwatson19843 жыл бұрын

    I remember being pretty scared of the dinosauroid guy as a child. Completely forgot about it until this.

  • @annastasijaspellman2536
    @annastasijaspellman25363 жыл бұрын

    Why do these animals make me have a weird uncanny valley feeling?

  • @Tricosis.
    @Tricosis.5 жыл бұрын

    10:19 That is actually Mark Zuckerberg's real form.

  • @azarishere6442

    @azarishere6442

    5 жыл бұрын

    ErectusCuntus no thats just leafy

  • @Xenotaris

    @Xenotaris

    5 жыл бұрын

    Your saying facebook was invented by the Reptilians of the Sirius Constellation?

  • @ninjiango9126

    @ninjiango9126

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mark Zuckerberg is too dorky to be a reptilian, he's more of an awkward android like Data from Star Trek.

  • @renmavis1703

    @renmavis1703

    5 жыл бұрын

    You know of the reptilians?

  • @professoroak93

    @professoroak93

    5 жыл бұрын

    ErectusCuntus he wishes

  • @weepat5325
    @weepat53255 жыл бұрын

    There Is an episode of Star Trek: Voyager from 1997 called, :Distant Origin", in which an alien species called the Voth are found to be descended from earth dinosaurs; Hadrosaurs, I believe.

  • @ernestlam5632

    @ernestlam5632

    5 жыл бұрын

    How did Hadrosuars get to another planet?

  • @weepat5325

    @weepat5325

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's Star Trek. Aliens transplanted them.@@ernestlam5632

  • @kamoinar1905

    @kamoinar1905

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@weepat5325 no, that was "the 37's" where aliens transplanted Humans. The Voth evolved normally and left the planet without any trace that could be found later, somehow.

  • @vrass775

    @vrass775

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kamoinar1905 Likely they managed to get a ship off just before the asteroid hit and wiped the rest on Earth out... much as we would do if we knew one was coming and had enough time to get ready. As for why they don't remember their origins in that episode... who knows, could be any number of reasons.

  • @CylonLab

    @CylonLab

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vrass775 I remember that one. It had been so long ago they had lost the knowledge of how they got there. They had also created a religion that was basically creationism and suppressed any attempt to prove it otherwise. A scientist had discovered a dead Voyager crew member and discovered some shared DNA and wanted to discover the truth about their origins.

  • @CuttingEdges
    @CuttingEdges4 жыл бұрын

    “Last and First Men” I remember borrowing this book years ago from my secondary school’s library - must been ‘07 or ‘08 and was fascinated by it! For years I’ve been trying to remember the name of it, but after seeing the cover I’ve finally found it again - thank you!

  • @jettpack9168

    @jettpack9168

    Жыл бұрын

    best book ever

  • @NoisqueVoaProduction
    @NoisqueVoaProduction3 жыл бұрын

    14:23 "I have run out of time, so 2 parts will have to do" Me, looking at the third part on the recommendations: ...Right.

  • @GuardianOfRlyeh
    @GuardianOfRlyeh5 жыл бұрын

    The Dinosauroid reminds me of the episode "Distant Cousins" from "Star Trek: Voyager" where the Parasaurolophus evolved into a spacefaring species.

  • @phoenixdavida8987

    @phoenixdavida8987

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cool. I'll look it up.

  • @tendaoxtails

    @tendaoxtails

    3 жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite episodes. There were quite a few episodes like that too.

  • @imraanahmed3438
    @imraanahmed34385 жыл бұрын

    After man was awesome. Inspiring even.

  • @BenGThomas

    @BenGThomas

    5 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely! Inspired me to make this video :D

  • @thejurassicwarewolf3300

    @thejurassicwarewolf3300

    5 жыл бұрын

    serina is better

  • @purplehaze2358

    @purplehaze2358

    5 жыл бұрын

    That profile picture makes me want to die.

  • @imraanahmed3438

    @imraanahmed3438

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@purplehaze2358 Blame KZread. When I first set that as my profile picture it wasn't cropped liked that. It's been this way for a while and I don't really want to change it.

  • @purplehaze2358

    @purplehaze2358

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@imraanahmed3438 I was just commenting on the fact that that meme has been dead for quite a while now.

  • @crabbshaveabs9137
    @crabbshaveabs91372 жыл бұрын

    Not only did I actually keep up with this and learn from it (I have several learning disabilities so that's really hard for me to do) but I listened to it on repeat till I fell asleep to make sure I proccessed all of it and finally got a good sleep which I haven't had in ages

  • @CrankyCrabChaos
    @CrankyCrabChaos3 жыл бұрын

    So that stupid freaking picture "Reconstructions of the small cretaceous theropod" that looks like an alien? I had a book as a kid (mid 90's) that was about Dinosaurs. I loved Dinosaurs. This freaking book man. I turned a page and that freaking picture was right there. Full page. No context, before or after. I was already terrified of "Aliens" at the time (Fox playing "documentaries" about people being abducted) and when that came up I literally threw the book aside. Went back to it a couple days later to avoid that page and see if there was any context to why it had this stupid full page. Nothing. I lost interest in Dinosaurs almost immediately after. That was the last dino book I ever asked my parents for, no more toys or the like. God damn. Fuck that picture.

  • @TheNadinucca

    @TheNadinucca

    3 жыл бұрын

    lol! I think I also got scared by that thing as a kid, since I was so obsessed with dinosaurs and one day I saw that image. Like you, I was also terrified of aliens and the damn thing looked so much like the greys... lol Still love dinosaurs, though.

  • @CrankyCrabChaos

    @CrankyCrabChaos

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheNadinucca hahaha. I'm glsd someone shared tbis experience and reslly understands that whole situation. I clicked on this video because of that picture from the thumbnail and FINALLY got some info and context on that picture. I can finally like dinosaurs again.

  • @CrankyCrabChaos

    @CrankyCrabChaos

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ORiOh4582 omg haha i can see that. Being able to fight back in mothership zeta. Emotionally freeing!

  • @coolspacemarine9154

    @coolspacemarine9154

    3 жыл бұрын

    I had the same book as a kid. I also had pretty open access to Warhammer 40k stuff at the same time and instead of fear it became, "fuck xeno's scum are ugly" sorta thing.

  • @kobovad
    @kobovad5 жыл бұрын

    I love this so much, I never thought you'd actually talk about it! I know about the old "After Man" book but never bought it, I think I might get myself the 2018 version

  • @Robert399
    @Robert3995 жыл бұрын

    Obviously the Dinosauroid is ridiculous but I do think that in order to become dominant like us, an intelligent animal would need some way of dominating much larger and more powerful animals fairly early in their development (unless it's already the biggest around). Humans achieved that by throwing. But that requires arms and a relatively bipedal posture. So for any hypothetical intelligent creature, you need to work out how they solved this problem *and* why intelligence matters to the resulting organism. So if you've got some small insectivore with a prehensile tongue and super powerful poison to deal with predators, why does it benefit from advanced memory and executive functions and tool use and social organisation instead of just continuing to do its thing?

  • @Gibbons3457

    @Gibbons3457

    5 жыл бұрын

    Why do we assume an intelligent species needs to dominate those around it. Are there not other niches for advanced intelligence to be useful in?

  • @Robert399

    @Robert399

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Gibbons3457 Sure but you won't see buildings or machines or any other signs of civilization if they can't control the space around them. And frankly, you're likely to see much more modest intelligence. Brains are incredibly energy intensive (we use 25% of our energy on our brains). Dominating their environment (to allow things like agriculture) makes it much easier to justify that cost. As an aside, it's pretty universal that social animals are more intelligent (humans, great apes, elephants, orcas, dolphins, wolves, hyenas, maybe magpies...) so it's unlikely that an animal will develop near-human intelligence if it has no need for complex social interactions. P.S. Our form is very efficient for going through spaces, storing possessions, operating machines, etc. unlike a theropod. The obvious response is "well yeah... we designed them" and that's true but it's not enough. You need to come up with a viable layout for theropods. It's worth pointing out that being bipedal means we're only long in 1 dimension. Theropods and most other animals are long in at least 2.

  • @burtan2000

    @burtan2000

    5 жыл бұрын

    If we're debating/evaluating anatomical diversity in highly intelligent animals, we must look to the smartest of the non ape species, and then the smartest non-mammals, and THEN the smartest invertebrates. Which brings us to the dolphin and elephant (elephant is unique;y shaped AND very dominant, tho due to size). Then consider the raven and gray parrots. Some have shown chimp-like intelligence. (And birds are descended from those therapods mentioned in thh vid, which OP was kinda saying wasn't possible bc dinos were dumb; well, tell that to my pet parrot that can sing Led Zepplin's Stairway to Heaven and once wrote a love poem for my neighbor which got me laid) Lastly, the oddest looking super smart creature is one of the oddest, and most unique animals alive. It's VERY distantly removed from us because it's an inveterate. Yet it can master trigonometry (it always fails Calculus, though). That's right, the cephlopod, the octopus. I knew an octopus who disliked the lights left on all night so he 'd sneak out, splash water on them, destroying them, and then sneak back into his very locked container. He would also sneak into neighboring containers to eat shrimp. My dad even had one that could program his VCR.

  • @Robert399

    @Robert399

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@burtan2000 Ok I didn't say at all that "dinos were dumb". My point was that, even if dinosaurs became highly intelligent, they have other limitations preventing them from doing many things we can do. A few more things I'll say: a) Parrots imitate sounds, they don't _understand_ speech at all. That's not a sign of great intelligence. b) Octopus intelligence is exaggerated. As far as we know, they're the most intelligent invertebrates but they're not remarkable by mammal standards. By simple neuron count, they're on par with dogs, nowhere near elephants, cetaceans or primates. Then when you look at what those neurons are used for, they're disproportionately (compared to mammals) for sensing and movement, not cognition. Yes it's a lot more uncertain because they're so different from us but uncertainty's *not* a licence to just accept extreme upper estimates.

  • @burtan2000

    @burtan2000

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Robert399 Dude, i suggest you look up Alex, the African Grey parrot that could straight up talk. About things, too! not just parroting words back. He could identify 50 different objects and recognize quantities up to six; that he could distinguish seven colors and five shapes, and understand the concepts of "bigger", "smaller", "same", and "different", and that he was learning "over" and "under".[2] Alex passed increasingly difficult tests measuring whether humans have achieved Piaget's Substage 6 object permanence. I watcehd this PBS thing on him and he was lightyears beyond a dog. He had chimp-like intelligence. He ABSOLUTELY understood speech. HE TALKED. When fed cake and he had no word for it, he called it SWEET BREAD. Two things he knew. There have been some tremendous examples of octopi demonstrating eerie levels of intelligence. Look it up.

  • @jumpsuit9769
    @jumpsuit97693 жыл бұрын

    Didn't know that this stuff was a genre, i did this kinda stuff from my elementary days because of pokemon. Good to know.

  • @cmkosemen
    @cmkosemen5 жыл бұрын

    What a great series! Thanks for mentioning my work Ben :)

  • @johnsantos9108
    @johnsantos91085 жыл бұрын

    I still have the Tops card of the Lizard guy. It’s pretty creepy.

  • @Archspore.

    @Archspore.

    5 жыл бұрын

    I used to have it too, and young me thought it was real!

  • @jadynd7916

    @jadynd7916

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Archspore. Me too, haha. Everyone freaked over that card

  • @shlamimk4664
    @shlamimk46644 жыл бұрын

    I remember a freind of mine showing me these images year's ago, when I had eaten a small handful of dried liberty cap mushrooms. Oh how we laughed. Particularly at the image at 9:21. That thing's completely mental.

  • @jadegecko
    @jadegecko4 жыл бұрын

    I read Dixon's three major books as a kid, got Barlowe as a teenager, and encountered The Future is Wild a few years back when a friend found the videos. I found your videos the other day and sent them to that same friend, thinking he might get a kick out of them. He did. Have spent my weekend talking about this stuff with him, going back over Barlowe, paging through 'snouters' and powering through 'all our yesterdays.' Just finished 'all tomorrows.' The last two are particularly great. I dunno what to say besides 'thanks for a great weekend'

  • @That-Google-Guy
    @That-Google-Guy5 жыл бұрын

    I keep coming back to this video! I love it so much, so many tastes from different kinds of Spec Zoo. The entire video is just the best. It’s the fourth time I’ve watched it, and it’s just as good as the first time

  • @tec-jones5445
    @tec-jones54455 жыл бұрын

    Yes! I've been waiting for a video on this! It's one of my favorite topics. I love After Man and the speculative documentary "The Future is Wild"

  • @ryankossick5791
    @ryankossick57915 жыл бұрын

    References C.M. Kosemen, but excludes snaiad. Me: “shows physical signs of being upset.”

  • @BenGThomas

    @BenGThomas

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sorry about that, including aliens would have made this video super long and complicated though! I'll make sure to do another video on the creatures of Snaiad sometime :)

  • @ryankossick5791

    @ryankossick5791

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ben G Thomas COOL!

  • @miquelescribanoivars5049

    @miquelescribanoivars5049

    5 жыл бұрын

    1:24

  • @ryankossick5791

    @ryankossick5791

    5 жыл бұрын

    Miquel Escribano Ivars yes I saw ;)

  • @dubuyajay9964

    @dubuyajay9964

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@BenGThomas Yes, I love to see some ayy lmaos. 👽👾🤖🛸

  • @naomiyurkov6648
    @naomiyurkov66482 жыл бұрын

    Such a FUN series- I keep coming back to re-watch it every once in a while! :)

  • @roastingnerd8545
    @roastingnerd85453 жыл бұрын

    The best one I read is the "All Tomorrows" by Koseman

  • @minnarew

    @minnarew

    3 жыл бұрын

    just watched a video on that earlier today!

  • @justinepoblete9778

    @justinepoblete9778

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@minnarew can you link it?

  • @wormfight52

    @wormfight52

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@justinepoblete9778 it’s likely this one kzread.info/dash/bejne/m6GC1rWJfZaTopc.html

  • @kiritsuguemiya607

    @kiritsuguemiya607

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nah, it's prolly the only one you've read

  • @roastingnerd8545

    @roastingnerd8545

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kiritsuguemiya607 yep and I'm eager to read more speculative literature in the future

  • @kaijudust9255
    @kaijudust92555 жыл бұрын

    Always wondered what these creatures were and why they looked so bizarre yet intriguing

  • @thanosactuallymadesomevali4234
    @thanosactuallymadesomevali42345 жыл бұрын

    Dude your channel is so underrated you're up there with Trey the explainer as the best biology and paleontology you tubers and you really deserve more subscribers

  • @ncjxjdbxjxjc8790
    @ncjxjdbxjxjc87905 жыл бұрын

    Extremely well formatted video. Good work my dude

  • @andyzhang7890
    @andyzhang78904 жыл бұрын

    I just discovered your channel, and this is one of the coolest videos I've seen in a while.

  • @silkworm6861
    @silkworm68615 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely loved The Future Is Wild, and rewatched it some years ago. Looking forward to Part 2!

  • @790robothead6

    @790robothead6

    5 жыл бұрын

    When I first saw the future is wild I thought it seemed like a bunch of CG artists were bored one day and decided to make up a bunch of animals. I rewatched it years later and my opinion completely flipped. Now it's one of my all time favorite mini series.

  • @Ezullof

    @Ezullof

    5 жыл бұрын

    I had a great memory of it, but when I tried to rewatch it recently, it was so bad... It didn't age well.

  • @mattm2451

    @mattm2451

    5 жыл бұрын

    Silkworm I loved it as a kid, still did on my rewatch though it’s shorter than I recall.

  • @Abyssaracnis

    @Abyssaracnis

    4 жыл бұрын

    The VR game isn't as Informed, for Example: The Reptilian thing that is hunting the weird looking Agnuranathus things? yeah, thats a Dolphin.

  • @ebonyblack4563
    @ebonyblack45635 жыл бұрын

    The Future Is Wild was my introduction to such thought and I'm excited to hear what you have to say about it. During college I came across After Man and the two together along with a handful of original creations went into making a small D20 setting that some of my friends explored with a lot of curiosity. Such creatures are like writing prompts for biology nerds.

  • @gabrielgiron4273
    @gabrielgiron42735 жыл бұрын

    Those transitions between animals was too smooth. It felt more of an educational episode than a list of potential zoologists results. Keep it up, just subbed.

  • @nnewt8445
    @nnewt84455 жыл бұрын

    I must say, it is interesting to see how creative we can get with designing creatures that could (and sometimes couldn't) plausibly exist in nature. As someone who is currently watching _The Future Is Wild_ , it's so cool to see that that wasn't even the first piece of media to showcase speculative evolution, and I can't wait to see you delve into that in Part 2. :)

  • @dank_smirk9971
    @dank_smirk99715 жыл бұрын

    There was an After Man re-release?! I'm gonna go get one!

  • @Kammerliteratur

    @Kammerliteratur

    5 жыл бұрын

    i did the same. it's brilliant.

  • @phoenixdavida8987

    @phoenixdavida8987

    5 жыл бұрын

    I didn't know either.

  • @lamelwinston7101

    @lamelwinston7101

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm 38 years old and am almost in tears because I never knew something so fascinating existed. I'm getting me and my son one, he's infatuated with dinosaurs and all other animals. He will appreciate it more now as a very intelligent 16 year old. 😁 Think I'll win father of the year this time and it won't go to that other guy! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @IaMaPh1991
    @IaMaPh19915 жыл бұрын

    I always hated that Troodon sculpture as a kid. Shrinkwrapped to hell and back, and almost deliberately alien in appearance.

  • @jayfeatherthesnarkymedicin8160

    @jayfeatherthesnarkymedicin8160

    3 жыл бұрын

    IaMaPh1991 Yeah, same. I had nightmares about it and would see that horrifying alien face.

  • @SyedWajahatAli90
    @SyedWajahatAli903 жыл бұрын

    Just subscribed! Great video man, keep em coming.

  • @Nonorama
    @Nonorama4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for giving me a term and definition for this! Love the fact, that I discovered your channel and will look into your vids a bit closer!

  • @powpuck5031
    @powpuck50315 жыл бұрын

    HG Wells also wrote The Man of the Year Million which also speculated on human evolution, and its concepts were the basis of his Martians for War of the Worlds.

  • @the_Googie
    @the_Googie3 жыл бұрын

    This is such a fun topic! Wow, I love it. As someone going to illustration school i actually cant wait to make my own speculative zoology

  • @squitterhyena652
    @squitterhyena6525 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this, one of my favorite topics. Regardless of it's sometimes inherent silliness. But xenobiology and speculative zoology is fascinating and at times a lot of fun regardless if you are trying to build a realistic dragon or are obsessed with science fiction and are a biology nerd like myself. Roanoke Gaming is one of my favorite channels for example. I love your channel and the topics you cover definitely in my top channels. I am surprised you didn't mention The Future is Wild, something I grew up with and what got me into this topic as a kid. I was also exposed to After Man and other Dougal Dixon projects in the library as a child. I was always interested in making up my own animals, so it really was surprising that the topic can be taken in very seriousness.

  • 4 жыл бұрын

    8:31 bruh that's a deflated groudon

  • @dragonboi6744

    @dragonboi6744

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ah I see you are a man of culture as well

  • @somebody5789

    @somebody5789

    3 жыл бұрын

    Holy shit you’re right...

  • @samyrandome425
    @samyrandome4253 жыл бұрын

    Fantasy literature does this a lot. Love it.

  • @Thaumh
    @Thaumh5 жыл бұрын

    I've hear some people half jokingly refer to the Dinosauroid as a "Troodude".

  • @harrisn3693

    @harrisn3693

    5 жыл бұрын

    It is a reptilian #AlexJones

  • @Bacony_Cakes

    @Bacony_Cakes

    4 жыл бұрын

    The galactic council refers to it as: "The nightmare that honestly should stay the fuck away from us."

  • @Abyssaracnis

    @Abyssaracnis

    4 жыл бұрын

    i am now gonna call the Dinosauroid as "Tröodude" for now on.

  • @kevinlee7678

    @kevinlee7678

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@harrisn3693 Actually, it is a Reptite.

  • @davidtyson6869

    @davidtyson6869

    3 жыл бұрын

    your jokes are more reality than what you can ever imagine do some research on the Anunnaki

  • @Linkous12
    @Linkous125 жыл бұрын

    This has become one of my favorite topics after reading Dougal Dixon's The New Dinosaurs back in the 90s. Can't wait for you to talk about C.M. Kosemen's All Tomorrows!

  • @Lurker1979
    @Lurker19795 жыл бұрын

    You know how much I have had this memory of reading Man after Man when I was a kid. How long I was trying to figure out what it was called? Glad that mystery is now solved thanks to your video.

  • @joeyyadao7620
    @joeyyadao76203 жыл бұрын

    It’s crazy cause I told my sister a story when I was young about seeing a giant crab. Idk if it was a dream cause it’s kind of a 5 second flashback of it and I’m 29 years old now and I still remember it as if it just happened. I was walking through a jungle of some sort and was looking up and I see like a giant reddish and partial black crab looking creature about 20-30 feet tall walking through the plants and that’s all I remember...

  • @jonathanhoumard2967
    @jonathanhoumard29673 жыл бұрын

    So was no one gonna tell me that Seasons Greasons was from a Speculative Zoological illustration??

  • @amasunprime69

    @amasunprime69

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice one, now i want a Sprite cranberry

  • @RichardDuron
    @RichardDuron5 жыл бұрын

    Dude this has to be the most interesting video I've seen in a while. Thank you.

  • @berneken9662
    @berneken96625 жыл бұрын

    I am sooo glad that I've got that in my recommendations, now I have inspiration for drawing

  • @jacobnion2525
    @jacobnion25255 жыл бұрын

    0:32 I still remember seeing that "thing" for the first time in a dinosaur book in kindergarten. Some 23 years ago. I found it quite scaring I think.

  • @nickkuiper32
    @nickkuiper323 жыл бұрын

    The gents that wrote these books really must have had some great time coming up with this subject🤤

  • @drewg4323
    @drewg43233 жыл бұрын

    Netflix now has that show "Alien Worlds" that taps into this as well, but I didn't realize the history of this art-meets-science love affair went this far back, can't wait to watch part 2!

  • @TheCreativeNick
    @TheCreativeNick3 жыл бұрын

    This video was actually the reason I got into speculative zoology, so glad I stumbled upon this masterpiece.

  • @eeveeee6201
    @eeveeee62015 жыл бұрын

    Speculative Zoology is fascinating, I remember first finding out about Dougal Dixsons work after watching the future is wild, and since then me and my friends have been thinking of what-if senerios and drawing up conepts for future animals, plus it got me into creature design

  • @thejurassicwarewolf3300

    @thejurassicwarewolf3300

    5 жыл бұрын

    trust me then you will LOVE serina sites.google.com/site/worldofserina/

  • @spongethebest2728

    @spongethebest2728

    5 жыл бұрын

    EeVee ee serina is epoc

  • @thejurassicwarewolf3300

    @thejurassicwarewolf3300

    5 жыл бұрын

    also speculative zoology isn't creature design

  • @eeveeee6201

    @eeveeee6201

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@thejurassicwarewolf3300 yeah I know it isn't, but it got me into creature design, I'm not saying it is creature design, it's like how it also got me into world building but I know Speculative Zoology isn't world building, but that is part of the process

  • @spongethebest2728

    @spongethebest2728

    5 жыл бұрын

    The Jurassic Warewolf yeah it is

  • @CosmicCaribbean
    @CosmicCaribbean5 жыл бұрын

    If you’re discussing the modern age of Speculative Biology, think you should highly mention the elephant in the room.... AKA The Speculative Dinosaur Project, one of the most largest and well known pieces of spec evo from the mid to late 2000s.

  • @phoenixdavida8987

    @phoenixdavida8987

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cool. I'll Google it!

  • @raksh9
    @raksh95 жыл бұрын

    This is fascinating, thank you KZread recommendations!

  • @thellamacorn8902
    @thellamacorn89025 жыл бұрын

    Love this! It's so interesting to see what everything could look like in teh future

  • @funkytikigod7039
    @funkytikigod70395 жыл бұрын

    As a kid I thought tarzan going to some dinosaur world in the animated series was a cool but stupid story idea, but now I find out it is true to the source material? LOL

  • @toffeefeathers
    @toffeefeathers4 жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite “documentaries” is Mermaids: the Body Found, would that be considered speculative biology? Because I’ve loved that series for years, always thought it was fascinating

  • @RedSiegfried

    @RedSiegfried

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think it would be more considered pure exploitation.

  • @kayleighbrown459

    @kayleighbrown459

    3 жыл бұрын

    Possibly. That and a bit of cryptozoology

  • @reptilianchris8512
    @reptilianchris85125 жыл бұрын

    This is so fascinating, subscribed!

  • @SugeryGold
    @SugeryGold5 жыл бұрын

    These all look like top quality books, thank you very much for bringing them to my attention

  • @JeremyWS
    @JeremyWS5 жыл бұрын

    When it comes to speculative zoology, I prefer this question: 1a) Where will life go after man leaves earth? 1b) How will life evolve after man abandons earth? over: 2a) How will life evolve if/after man goes extinct?

  • @josesagastumesagas1860
    @josesagastumesagas18605 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video, really great topic!

  • @BenGThomas

    @BenGThomas

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks :D

  • @josesagastumesagas1860

    @josesagastumesagas1860

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@BenGThomas love the content so much! I've learn a lot thank thanks to you guys, you make my Sundays greaaaat!

  • @tophat665
    @tophat6654 жыл бұрын

    Sir, Two thing I want to let you know. First, when I was in 6th grade (American) there was a first edition of After Man in my elementary school library. The sort of non-lateral thinking Dougal employed, when combined with Barlowe's Guide to Extraterrestrials was life changing for me, and I deeply appreciate your taking this subject on. Second, The Dinosauroids put me very much in mind of Harry Harrison's East of Eden, an alternate history in which both a dinosaur and a hominid salience co evolved. I am much looking forward to further installments.

  • @tobifoong8025
    @tobifoong80255 жыл бұрын

    I had "after man", loved it. Poured over every page from corner to corner.. over and over for months..

  • @carrier2823
    @carrier28234 жыл бұрын

    I really always thought that a humanoid structure was the best support for intelligent life, so I really wish you would have gotten more into why this isn’t the case and provided other possible structures that would support intelligence. Edit: commented right before seeing the part where you showed the avian structure. Fascinating, would love to see more structure ideas.

  • @Breakfast_of_Champions
    @Breakfast_of_Champions5 жыл бұрын

    Clearly thats Queen Elizabeth in the thumbnail!

  • @azarishere6442

    @azarishere6442

    5 жыл бұрын

    Breakfast of Champions long met she hiss

  • @simnm8057

    @simnm8057

    5 жыл бұрын

    No its barack obama

  • @SanilJadhav711

    @SanilJadhav711

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@simnm8057 Cmon, everybody knows it's Mark Zuckerberg

  • @sweatnuts81

    @sweatnuts81

    4 жыл бұрын

    Breakfast of Champions no that's Donald Trump. And you mean Queen Elizabeth II, Queen Elizabeth I died in like 1906.

  • @LanieMae

    @LanieMae

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wow, a Queen Elizabeth is immortal meme before it became popluar?

  • @Your_Future_Overlord
    @Your_Future_Overlord3 жыл бұрын

    When I was a kid, I used to watch this show called DinoSapien. It was basically about humans coming across some dinosaurs that survived the extinction event and developed higher human-esque intelligence. I think it really could have gone so much farther with the speculative zoology aspect if it just had a higher budget and the chance for a second season.

  • @JayM409
    @JayM4094 жыл бұрын

    I love Speculative Zoology. I have all of Dougal Dixon's books: After Man, the New Dinosaurs, and Man After Man. I also have Terryl Whitlach's books: Principles of Creature Design, Science of Creature Design, and Animals: Real and Imagined.

  • @ianchristopher367
    @ianchristopher3675 жыл бұрын

    The Future is Wild!

  • @remanjecarter2787

    @remanjecarter2787

    5 жыл бұрын

    I thought that was just a weird dream

  • @seniormoros_rose6402

    @seniormoros_rose6402

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's how I got introduce to speculative evolution

  • @rockkiller124

    @rockkiller124

    5 жыл бұрын

    My childhood

  • @Bacony_Cakes

    @Bacony_Cakes

    4 жыл бұрын

    The past is crazy.

  • @fidasiddiqui1913
    @fidasiddiqui19133 жыл бұрын

    Speculative Zoology is very interesting.

  • @pelleaskagain
    @pelleaskagain5 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff, looking forward to the next one!

  • @planetdisco4821
    @planetdisco48214 жыл бұрын

    I loved that book! I read it over and over again in my school library...

  • @melvinshine9841
    @melvinshine98415 жыл бұрын

    I remember I found what I know now is that After Man book in a library when I 8 or 9. I didn't read it because I was a little coward then and was probably scared of the Nightstalker. -_-

  • @xxxCrackerJack501xxx
    @xxxCrackerJack501xxx5 жыл бұрын

    That dinosauroid reminds me of a Sleestak, anyone remember those?

  • @rolandgalicio
    @rolandgalicio4 жыл бұрын

    This is the kind of content that will help me breeze through forced home quarantine. Subscribed!

  • @daviddavis1085
    @daviddavis10854 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic content bro straight up. Weird af and straight up my ally thank you 🙏

  • @dboutte36
    @dboutte363 жыл бұрын

    Disney’s “The Croods” 1 and 2 has some dope ass animals like this in it.

  • @urielgonzalez2882

    @urielgonzalez2882

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dreamworks

  • @silvertheelf
    @silvertheelf4 жыл бұрын

    Speculative zoology is the equivalent of becoming an H.P.Lovecraft of artwork.

  • @benapat723
    @benapat7235 жыл бұрын

    Always a fan of future is wild, thanks for the vdo man!

  • @tristanswan1067
    @tristanswan10675 жыл бұрын

    I loved After Man: A Zoology of the Future and The New Dinosaurs. Got the 2018 version of After Man, and the old version of The New Dinosaurs and both have really inspired me to create my own creatures

  • @JacobBite
    @JacobBite5 жыл бұрын

    OH MY GOD WHEN IS PART 2 COMING OUT I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER!

  • @Rindew
    @Rindew5 жыл бұрын

    I can't wait to get the 2018 release Ive already had nightmares on man after man

  • @chesterdagoc5915

    @chesterdagoc5915

    3 жыл бұрын

    What thing had made you nightmares from that book

  • @Bonzulac
    @Bonzulac5 жыл бұрын

    Incredibly, this is an absolutely incredible incredibleness. Just incredible.

  • @redgriffen
    @redgriffen4 жыл бұрын

    That was cool! I remember reading that article when it came out.